lol they deleted my pic of the new altitude. hahahah. Just a picture of a bike in a parking lot with tape on it. Of all the spied pics here they delete that one? lol
Heard from a friend of a friend that fox distributors have already received technical documentation of the new dampers so the release should not be far off.
Some exciting tech coming for sure. As if AXS drivetrains weren't expensive now I'll need to worry about Electronic Fox suspension Excited for it nonetheless
Some exciting tech coming for sure. As if AXS drivetrains weren't expensive now I'll need to worry about Electronic Fox suspension Excited for it nonetheless
Curious to see Fox's implementation. Not trying to bash Rockshox but flight attendant seems like a flop so far. Maybe took it too far with the...
Curious to see Fox's implementation. Not trying to bash Rockshox but flight attendant seems like a flop so far. Maybe took it too far with the front fork stuff. Honestly who needs/wants to firm up their Zeb. Too complicated for marginal gains.
IIRC Fox was using a sensor on the front fork to adjust the rear shock, but not making changes to the fork.
Must be a different version? I think Dane has had his for a while, and yet Ryan Griffiths just got one recently im pretty sure, but...
Must be a different version? I think Dane has had his for a while, and yet Ryan Griffiths just got one recently im pretty sure, but i thought i saw photos of him riding on the old one at this event
They both seemed to be riding both during practice...and I'm pretty sure Ryan raced his old bike.
Guys, let's the lawyers discuss about IP and stuff, let's just enjoy the parts we are getting.
Zrace, WestBiking, ZTTO, Akantor, Tanke, Onirii, Rong Lun, III Pro are all different from each other. no one looks exact carbon copy of the main brands.
I've got a pair of RongLun brake levers that look similar to magura or older shimanos, but have a banjo at the bottom to redirect the hose under the bar, 4 piston shimano calipers at the front, 4 piston TRP slate at the back, SS hoses, 2.3mm thick ZTTO disks, Kingstop metalic pads and MOTUL 2,5w oil. They are BRILLIANT. Light actuation, zero friction until the pads contact the disks, heaps of power and modulation. Might get some mavens calipers in the future to use with 180mm rotors on a downhill bike.
Another thing about taiwan and china, the US would not give a dead shit about taiwan if there was no silicon being produced there. Just look at how Haiti has succumbed to guerrilas, how hamas has taken power of Palestine, how Iemen is controlled by terrorist group Houthi, and so on.
I don't get all the fuss about the diapers. Prototypes being tested/validated in public, while heavily camouflaged, is common in all industries. It protects under-development IP...
I don't get all the fuss about the diapers. Prototypes being tested/validated in public, while heavily camouflaged, is common in all industries. It protects under-development IP and also allows less-than-production-level parts to be used without the scrutiny of the public eye. We built an entire bunker to hide our test vehicles when they weren't on the road, and when they were on the road they had zebra camo and fake grilles, etc. It's great for concealing parts that are being rapidly developed, especially when some iterations might only be used for a single test cycle.
Bunkers for cars? I know this is a mtb thread but you got a wiki link for this car testing bunker? Sounds cool.
It's slightly less exciting than it sounds. The "bunker" was just for datalogging and tuning start-stop/idle/stationary emissions/etc., basically anything that could be tested without a road speed. It was a effectively a several acre area surrounded by a wall of 2-high stacked shipping containers. Anything that saw road time was heavily camo'd, like these bikes.
Guys, let's the lawyers discuss about IP and stuff, let's just enjoy the parts we are getting.
Zrace, WestBiking, ZTTO, Akantor, Tanke, Onirii, Rong Lun, III...
Guys, let's the lawyers discuss about IP and stuff, let's just enjoy the parts we are getting.
Zrace, WestBiking, ZTTO, Akantor, Tanke, Onirii, Rong Lun, III Pro are all different from each other. no one looks exact carbon copy of the main brands.
I've got a pair of RongLun brake levers that look similar to magura or older shimanos, but have a banjo at the bottom to redirect the hose under the bar, 4 piston shimano calipers at the front, 4 piston TRP slate at the back, SS hoses, 2.3mm thick ZTTO disks, Kingstop metalic pads and MOTUL 2,5w oil. They are BRILLIANT. Light actuation, zero friction until the pads contact the disks, heaps of power and modulation. Might get some mavens calipers in the future to use with 180mm rotors on a downhill bike.
Another thing about taiwan and china, the US would not give a dead shit about taiwan if there was no silicon being produced there. Just look at how Haiti has succumbed to guerrilas, how hamas has taken power of Palestine, how Iemen is controlled by terrorist group Houthi, and so on.
*asks for guys to only let lawyers discuss IP.
*Proceeds to discuss geopolitical situations across the globe.
What really bothers me is that Lewis brakes CHOSE to MIMIC the way Trickstuff brakes look. Hope/Trickstuff/Intend/Sram/Shimano/Hayes/TRP all look pretty distinguishable, even between some of their own models. It's not how brakes are made is a secret anymore. You have a lever that pushes a piston that pushes fluid that pushes another set of pistons. Sure you can add cams here, adjustments there, play with leverage ratio, fancy cnc, parts, it doesn't really change the way brakes work fundamentally. Not discrediting the manufacturing of these brakes in any way. For a set of the more pricy Lewis brakes you can get just about anything that isn't super bougie like Trickstuff/Intend. So yeah, I don't really see a reason why someone should own these, unless you have to have something that resembles a Trickstuff and you don't have the money, or you just really like the way Lewis sounds or the feeling of these brakes just wowed you out of the world (highly unlikely).
Has there been any word on Zipp? I noticed the 3Motos are discounted everywhere and SRAMs site has them listed as out of stock until 4/11, I'm wondering if a new iteration is coming soon.
Rocky Mountain are doing full SRAM builds since T-Type, go check 2024 Instinct builds.
RM are also associated with IFHT films (Mahalo) so it's not that...
Rocky Mountain are doing full SRAM builds since T-Type, go check 2024 Instinct builds.
RM are also associated with IFHT films (Mahalo) so it's not that unlikely that a new promo video for the 2024 Altitude will be made by them.
What really bothers me is that Lewis brakes CHOSE to MIMIC the way Trickstuff brakes look. Hope/Trickstuff/Intend/Sram/Shimano/Hayes/TRP all look pretty distinguishable, even between some of their...
What really bothers me is that Lewis brakes CHOSE to MIMIC the way Trickstuff brakes look. Hope/Trickstuff/Intend/Sram/Shimano/Hayes/TRP all look pretty distinguishable, even between some of their own models. It's not how brakes are made is a secret anymore. You have a lever that pushes a piston that pushes fluid that pushes another set of pistons. Sure you can add cams here, adjustments there, play with leverage ratio, fancy cnc, parts, it doesn't really change the way brakes work fundamentally. Not discrediting the manufacturing of these brakes in any way. For a set of the more pricy Lewis brakes you can get just about anything that isn't super bougie like Trickstuff/Intend. So yeah, I don't really see a reason why someone should own these, unless you have to have something that resembles a Trickstuff and you don't have the money, or you just really like the way Lewis sounds or the feeling of these brakes just wowed you out of the world (highly unlikely).
FWIW I haven't heard a bad word about the performance of them from people actually trying them out...
And they will be ridden in the world cup if that's any consolation at all. Probably not though.
What really bothers me is that Lewis brakes CHOSE to MIMIC the way Trickstuff brakes look. Hope/Trickstuff/Intend/Sram/Shimano/Hayes/TRP all look pretty distinguishable, even between some of their...
What really bothers me is that Lewis brakes CHOSE to MIMIC the way Trickstuff brakes look. Hope/Trickstuff/Intend/Sram/Shimano/Hayes/TRP all look pretty distinguishable, even between some of their own models. It's not how brakes are made is a secret anymore. You have a lever that pushes a piston that pushes fluid that pushes another set of pistons. Sure you can add cams here, adjustments there, play with leverage ratio, fancy cnc, parts, it doesn't really change the way brakes work fundamentally. Not discrediting the manufacturing of these brakes in any way. For a set of the more pricy Lewis brakes you can get just about anything that isn't super bougie like Trickstuff/Intend. So yeah, I don't really see a reason why someone should own these, unless you have to have something that resembles a Trickstuff and you don't have the money, or you just really like the way Lewis sounds or the feeling of these brakes just wowed you out of the world (highly unlikely).
FWIW I haven't heard a bad word about the performance of them from people actually trying them out...
And they will be ridden in the world...
FWIW I haven't heard a bad word about the performance of them from people actually trying them out...
And they will be ridden in the world cup if that's any consolation at all. Probably not though.
I agree, every single owner I've spoken to who has actually tried Lewis brakes has nothing but great things to say about them. Great modulation, great power, nice construction quality etc. I'm very curious to try them myself next month. Everyone who has bashed them and called them cheap sweatshop made brakes, unsurprisingly has never even tried or seen them in person. If I try them and they do turn out to be junk, I will have no issue admitting that but every person who actually has hands on experience seems to think they're stellar brakes.
There also seems to be a small "belly" close to the BB on the new Canyon. The outline almost looks like it's a cover of some...
There also seems to be a small "belly" close to the BB on the new Canyon. The outline almost looks like it's a cover of some sort. Could the shock be mounted vertically and be actuated by an upper link if it indeed a 6-bar ?
Edit: from this photo (from Vital pre-race interviews) you can clearly see a link in the bottom bracket area. This would fit with both the "Devinci" theory and the 6-bar theory. I also wonder if the vertical thick element behind the idler is part of the front triangle or is a vertical member in a 6-bar design (oh I missed nerding out on this stuff 😆)
I'm definitely thinking 6 bar on it, with the axle pivot instead of a chainstay pivot, possibly with a pivot location concentric to the bb, but maybe not too high given where the idler is, and I think it'll have a vertical shock mount, or at least more vertical, that belly portion being where the shock mounts like the old Giant Faiths and Giant Glorys
Good photo of lower link on Canyon. photo: Ben Wilson (IG)
Good photo of lower link on Canyon. photo: Ben Wilson (IG)
Looks to be doing the same Ancillotti rip-off nonsense that Speicalized is doing, but probably more along the lines of a high pivot faux-6 bar like the proto Norco that the King is on.
But the folds in the diaper at the top does look like the outline of a normal, horizontal upper rocker link. Maybe a 6 bar (or faux-6 bar) high pivot like Commencal, but actuating the shock from both ends like Mondraker?
Rocky Mountain are doing full SRAM builds since T-Type, go check 2024 Instinct builds.
RM are also associated with IFHT films (Mahalo) so it's not that...
Rocky Mountain are doing full SRAM builds since T-Type, go check 2024 Instinct builds.
RM are also associated with IFHT films (Mahalo) so it's not that unlikely that a new promo video for the 2024 Altitude will be made by them.
New Spindrift? I've been expecting it for a long time. But based on the ongoing sales since rampage, they probably overstocked the current version quite significantly and had to get rid of that first.
Rocky Mountain are doing full SRAM builds since T-Type, go check 2024 Instinct builds.
RM are also associated with IFHT films (Mahalo) so it's not that...
Rocky Mountain are doing full SRAM builds since T-Type, go check 2024 Instinct builds.
RM are also associated with IFHT films (Mahalo) so it's not that unlikely that a new promo video for the 2024 Altitude will be made by them.
New Spindrift? I've been expecting it for a long time. But based on the ongoing sales since rampage, they probably overstocked the current version quite significantly...
New Spindrift? I've been expecting it for a long time. But based on the ongoing sales since rampage, they probably overstocked the current version quite significantly and had to get rid of that first.
lol they deleted my pic of the new altitude. hahahah. Just a picture of a bike in a parking lot with tape on it. Of all the spied pics here they delete that one? lol
Heard from a friend of a friend that fox distributors have already received technical documentation of the new dampers so the release should not be far off.
and new enves nobody noticed
IIRC Fox was using a sensor on the front fork to adjust the rear shock, but not making changes to the fork.
They both seemed to be riding both during practice...and I'm pretty sure Ryan raced his old bike.
Guys, let's the lawyers discuss about IP and stuff, let's just enjoy the parts we are getting.
Zrace, WestBiking, ZTTO, Akantor, Tanke, Onirii, Rong Lun, III Pro are all different from each other. no one looks exact carbon copy of the main brands.
I've got a pair of RongLun brake levers that look similar to magura or older shimanos, but have a banjo at the bottom to redirect the hose under the bar, 4 piston shimano calipers at the front, 4 piston TRP slate at the back, SS hoses, 2.3mm thick ZTTO disks, Kingstop metalic pads and MOTUL 2,5w oil. They are BRILLIANT. Light actuation, zero friction until the pads contact the disks, heaps of power and modulation. Might get some mavens calipers in the future to use with 180mm rotors on a downhill bike.
Another thing about taiwan and china, the US would not give a dead shit about taiwan if there was no silicon being produced there. Just look at how Haiti has succumbed to guerrilas, how hamas has taken power of Palestine, how Iemen is controlled by terrorist group Houthi, and so on.
Let’s please keep global geopolitics out of the tech rumors thread.
It's slightly less exciting than it sounds. The "bunker" was just for datalogging and tuning start-stop/idle/stationary emissions/etc., basically anything that could be tested without a road speed. It was a effectively a several acre area surrounded by a wall of 2-high stacked shipping containers. Anything that saw road time was heavily camo'd, like these bikes.
*asks for guys to only let lawyers discuss IP.
*Proceeds to discuss geopolitical situations across the globe.
What really bothers me is that Lewis brakes CHOSE to MIMIC the way Trickstuff brakes look. Hope/Trickstuff/Intend/Sram/Shimano/Hayes/TRP all look pretty distinguishable, even between some of their own models. It's not how brakes are made is a secret anymore. You have a lever that pushes a piston that pushes fluid that pushes another set of pistons. Sure you can add cams here, adjustments there, play with leverage ratio, fancy cnc, parts, it doesn't really change the way brakes work fundamentally. Not discrediting the manufacturing of these brakes in any way. For a set of the more pricy Lewis brakes you can get just about anything that isn't super bougie like Trickstuff/Intend. So yeah, I don't really see a reason why someone should own these, unless you have to have something that resembles a Trickstuff and you don't have the money, or you just really like the way Lewis sounds or the feeling of these brakes just wowed you out of the world (highly unlikely).
Has there been any word on Zipp? I noticed the 3Motos are discounted everywhere and SRAMs site has them listed as out of stock until 4/11, I'm wondering if a new iteration is coming soon.
Mahalo are usually only riding on Trek bikes, but this one doesn't look like a Trek as per OEM tires/wheels.
Could simply be the new Altitude.
Looks like a full SRAM build so that makes it unlikely that it's the new Altitude...
Rocky Mountain are doing full SRAM builds since T-Type, go check 2024 Instinct builds.
RM are also associated with IFHT films (Mahalo) so it's not that unlikely that a new promo video for the 2024 Altitude will be made by them.
Good photo of lower link on Canyon. photo: Ben Wilson (IG)
FWIW I haven't heard a bad word about the performance of them from people actually trying them out...
And they will be ridden in the world cup if that's any consolation at all. Probably not though.
I agree, every single owner I've spoken to who has actually tried Lewis brakes has nothing but great things to say about them. Great modulation, great power, nice construction quality etc. I'm very curious to try them myself next month. Everyone who has bashed them and called them cheap sweatshop made brakes, unsurprisingly has never even tried or seen them in person. If I try them and they do turn out to be junk, I will have no issue admitting that but every person who actually has hands on experience seems to think they're stellar brakes.
Looks like the new Marzocchi 38 chassis is close to being unveiled.
Needs to drop already. Take my money!
not a fan of the new font
I'm definitely thinking 6 bar on it, with the axle pivot instead of a chainstay pivot, possibly with a pivot location concentric to the bb, but maybe not too high given where the idler is, and I think it'll have a vertical shock mount, or at least more vertical, that belly portion being where the shock mounts like the old Giant Faiths and Giant Glorys
Just speed up the rebound a click and it should be fine.
Some custom decals, maybe some chrome and red, like the old Z1 Atom Bombs would be cool.
Its not my bag either, like a poor interpretation of minimalist design
Could be worse, could be
mrzcch bmbr....
I hate that I even typed that
Looks to be doing the same Ancillotti rip-off nonsense that Speicalized is doing, but probably more along the lines of a high pivot faux-6 bar like the proto Norco that the King is on.
But the folds in the diaper at the top does look like the outline of a normal, horizontal upper rocker link. Maybe a 6 bar (or faux-6 bar) high pivot like Commencal, but actuating the shock from both ends like Mondraker?
New Spindrift? I've been expecting it for a long time. But based on the ongoing sales since rampage, they probably overstocked the current version quite significantly and had to get rid of that first.
Definitelly looks like a 2way compresion dial on that photo, the other ones were edited/blacked out it seems
Or Tyee with a Zeb? Shape looks similar.
It'll T up with GT's rebranding beautifully however.
PB just dropped their review of the dual crown Selva, the "Formula Belva"
https://www.pinkbike.com/news/review-formula-belva-dual-crown-enduro-fo…
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