I thought I saw guy riding a white one in the same story as well? (Right side outside of the snip)
Nah that bike you're seeing on the right side of that same clip is Emmy Lan on the druid v2 in the new lilac color way, it's a very whitish pink, I'm really not a fan
At first glance I thought the ASR was pretty slick, I'm in the market for a new 120ish full suspension frame this year and It's nice...
At first glance I thought the ASR was pretty slick, I'm in the market for a new 120ish full suspension frame this year and It's nice to have so many good options. I get the Cheeky marketing from them, poking fun at the competitors, but then I started thinking, there's no reason I would pick the ASR over the Epic 8. They are comparable in a lot of ways but Specialized was able to achieve their low frame weight AND add SWAT storage. I realize in-frame storage might not be important to XC racers but having owned a frame with SWAT, I love it. As a lot of these new-age XC bikes become so similar it's little details that will set them apart. I guess I'm just curious why someone would choose the ASR over the Epic 8. Turquoise color option?
I don't really care about in-frame storage and if my local bike shop carried Yeti but not Spesh (which is actually the case), I would happily stick with supporting my LBS over getting a SWAT box.
Nah that bike you're seeing on the right side of that same clip is Emmy Lan on the druid v2 in the new lilac color way...
Nah that bike you're seeing on the right side of that same clip is Emmy Lan on the druid v2 in the new lilac color way, it's a very whitish pink, I'm really not a fan
At first glance I thought the ASR was pretty slick, I'm in the market for a new 120ish full suspension frame this year and It's nice...
At first glance I thought the ASR was pretty slick, I'm in the market for a new 120ish full suspension frame this year and It's nice to have so many good options. I get the Cheeky marketing from them, poking fun at the competitors, but then I started thinking, there's no reason I would pick the ASR over the Epic 8. They are comparable in a lot of ways but Specialized was able to achieve their low frame weight AND add SWAT storage. I realize in-frame storage might not be important to XC racers but having owned a frame with SWAT, I love it. As a lot of these new-age XC bikes become so similar it's little details that will set them apart. I guess I'm just curious why someone would choose the ASR over the Epic 8. Turquoise color option?
Yeah, and the prestige of owning a Yeti, and just other little factors, like geo and all of that. Nothing wrong with having brand preferences IMO, ride what you wasn't, not every choice has to be made with value in mind.
AFAIK, the geo is still under wraps, only the colors were leaked
I've seen the geo chart and all of the press materials. There's no S, M, L, now it's S2,S3, etc. From memory, the S3 is something like a 471 reach and the S4 is 490-something. My V1 Large is 484 which is perfect. The other geo (head angle, rear center, stack, etc.) is basically identical. It's a 4 bar design now too like the Druid V2. Shock size and seat post diameter are both the same which is nice. No major changes, I don't see much of a reason to upgrade but I guess I'll wait for some reviews
Robert from The Loam Wolf here. I was the one who broke the Scalpel, and I’m not surprised I did - overshot the landing of a...
Robert from The Loam Wolf here. I was the one who broke the Scalpel, and I’m not surprised I did - overshot the landing of a large jump for an XC bike, landing in the pocket between the landing and the flat ground after it. Huge bottom out.
I corrected Kaz at Pinkbike’s quote - he had flatteringly guessed me to be 190lbs, whereas I am 220lbs. Nothing fishy.
I wholeheartedly believe the Scalpel is fit for purpose and that it was my fault! Was having far too much fun and got carried away.
The criticism here isn't that the frame broke; in the XC race market, if your frame can survive a decent huck to flat with a dad-bod on it, that means your frame is heavier than it needs to be. The criticism is the damage control instead of just addressing it. "Ya, we had a frame break. We wish it didn't happen, but sometimes it does. We stand behind our frames and our warranty"
With all the sales going on (Specialized Status frame + shock for $750, for instance), I've been worried that bikes are getting too affordable. When I show up at the Corner Canyon trailhead to ride IMBA blues with the lads, I need my long travel enduro bike to be more expensive than the other mid-level engineers and managers. I hope this ochain uses electronics and accelerometers to "know" when you're pedaling or not, so it can lock out the spider while pedaling and allow the float only during coasting.
So many comments recently with people being overly pedantic about reach numbers. (Not just here).
10mm is literally nothing. Swap a 50mm and 40mm stem , get narrower or wider bars, try a different back sweep. Get thinner or thicker grips, bar roll stem spacers, adjust your cleat position etc. Hell, the hand position difference between single collar lock on grips and double collar probably changes your torso position as much.
Reach is just one aspect of bike fit. Writing something off because the reach isn't exactly a perceived magic number by 10mm without trying it is very close minded and really not a tech or innovation rumour
So many comments recently with people being overly pedantic about reach numbers. (Not just here).
10mm is literally nothing. Swap a 50mm and 40mm stem...
So many comments recently with people being overly pedantic about reach numbers. (Not just here).
10mm is literally nothing. Swap a 50mm and 40mm stem , get narrower or wider bars, try a different back sweep. Get thinner or thicker grips, bar roll stem spacers, adjust your cleat position etc. Hell, the hand position difference between single collar lock on grips and double collar probably changes your torso position as much.
Reach is just one aspect of bike fit. Writing something off because the reach isn't exactly a perceived magic number by 10mm without trying it is very close minded and really not a tech or innovation rumour
Stem length also affects much more than just reach. Can have a massive change on steering feel depending on fork offset
So many comments recently with people being overly pedantic about reach numbers. (Not just here).
10mm is literally nothing. Swap a 50mm and 40mm stem...
So many comments recently with people being overly pedantic about reach numbers. (Not just here).
10mm is literally nothing. Swap a 50mm and 40mm stem , get narrower or wider bars, try a different back sweep. Get thinner or thicker grips, bar roll stem spacers, adjust your cleat position etc. Hell, the hand position difference between single collar lock on grips and double collar probably changes your torso position as much.
Reach is just one aspect of bike fit. Writing something off because the reach isn't exactly a perceived magic number by 10mm without trying it is very close minded and really not a tech or innovation rumour
I think you need to look up the definition of “literally.”
A 10 mm difference in reach is tangible whether you want to admit it or not. If you’re anal about your set up, different handlebars, stems, and grips will take time to get used to. I will concede that writing off a bike because of a 1 cm difference is a bit extreme, but it’s definitely something that takes time getting used to.
if you can’t demo a bike, it can be a big gamble. I’m 6’2”. The way reach numbers are going these days, I’m never sure if a large or an extra large is going to be ideal for me.
Anyone know if Hayes will be updating the A4? There are good sales happening right now.
Why would they? The Dominion started with bold claims that Hayes is really coming back to the brake game, at first sales were so-so, but then i guess the first users started raving about them and after some time we really started seeing them regularly. Great brake at a regular price - what more could you want? They need years to prototype something significantly better, but it will probably cost more, so there’s no point!
So many comments recently with people being overly pedantic about reach numbers. (Not just here).
10mm is literally nothing. Swap a 50mm and 40mm stem...
So many comments recently with people being overly pedantic about reach numbers. (Not just here).
10mm is literally nothing. Swap a 50mm and 40mm stem , get narrower or wider bars, try a different back sweep. Get thinner or thicker grips, bar roll stem spacers, adjust your cleat position etc. Hell, the hand position difference between single collar lock on grips and double collar probably changes your torso position as much.
Reach is just one aspect of bike fit. Writing something off because the reach isn't exactly a perceived magic number by 10mm without trying it is very close minded and really not a tech or innovation rumour
Stem length also affects much more than just reach. Can have a massive change on steering feel depending on fork offset
Everything Geo related is a compromise. Ride a different stem/bar/spacer setup 2 times and it doesn't feel "massively" different anymore. If it still feels bad after 2 rides, revert back and keep searching for the perfect mass produced frame that's absolutely tailor made for just you.
The amount of whinging about brake modulation, tire carcass feel, and geo specs in this thread is ridiculous.
1,000% of non-pro riders are holding the bike back from its true potential, not the other way around. At least Moto guys own it when they're an anal "Vet Rider," who can never stop tinkering. Over here, the bike is the problem, and it's definitely not "proggressive" enough, lol. JFC!
Spotted Rhys on the new dread on IG
I thought I saw guy riding a white one in the same story as well? (Right side outside of the snip)
Nah that bike you're seeing on the right side of that same clip is Emmy Lan on the druid v2 in the new lilac color way, it's a very whitish pink, I'm really not a fan
I don't really care about in-frame storage and if my local bike shop carried Yeti but not Spesh (which is actually the case), I would happily stick with supporting my LBS over getting a SWAT box.
Ah thanks! I should have looked closer
Yeah, and the prestige of owning a Yeti, and just other little factors, like geo and all of that. Nothing wrong with having brand preferences IMO, ride what you wasn't, not every choice has to be made with value in mind.
Anyone know if Hayes will be updating the A4? There are good sales happening right now.
They have sales every other month for 25% off. Unless it's a super-duper sale, it's the same old thing...
I wish I wasn't between sizes on the V2. Love my V1
What's the V2 geo??
spill the beans m8
AFAIK, the geo is still under wraps, only the colors were leaked
I've seen the geo chart and all of the press materials. There's no S, M, L, now it's S2,S3, etc. From memory, the S3 is something like a 471 reach and the S4 is 490-something. My V1 Large is 484 which is perfect. The other geo (head angle, rear center, stack, etc.) is basically identical. It's a 4 bar design now too like the Druid V2. Shock size and seat post diameter are both the same which is nice. No major changes, I don't see much of a reason to upgrade but I guess I'll wait for some reviews
Size 3 is 471 (Mullet) and 475 (29¨)
471mm reach on a mullet sounds dialed for being 5'10.
Man… a difference in reach of 10 or so mm is really a deal breaker?
Wild.
Gotta take everything said here with a grain of salt, after all these are rumors
The criticism here isn't that the frame broke; in the XC race market, if your frame can survive a decent huck to flat with a dad-bod on it, that means your frame is heavier than it needs to be. The criticism is the damage control instead of just addressing it. "Ya, we had a frame break. We wish it didn't happen, but sometimes it does. We stand behind our frames and our warranty"
With all the sales going on (Specialized Status frame + shock for $750, for instance), I've been worried that bikes are getting too affordable. When I show up at the Corner Canyon trailhead to ride IMBA blues with the lads, I need my long travel enduro bike to be more expensive than the other mid-level engineers and managers. I hope this ochain uses electronics and accelerometers to "know" when you're pedaling or not, so it can lock out the spider while pedaling and allow the float only during coasting.
A centimeter is a huge difference in reach IMO. If the next generation of my favorite bike grew by 10 mm, I would probably hate the change.
Exactly. 10mm of reach is a massive difference
Not a rumor. The S3 has a 471 reach as a mullet. 475 29/29. Like I said, this info is from the press kit
Good to know, I'm currently on the S3 MX Druid V2 and the fit is pretty good, I'm right about 6' - 6'1
The chainstays even at static on the dread v2 are looong. The S4 is 475 rear center at static before they grow going into the travel!
So many comments recently with people being overly pedantic about reach numbers. (Not just here).
10mm is literally nothing. Swap a 50mm and 40mm stem , get narrower or wider bars, try a different back sweep. Get thinner or thicker grips, bar roll stem spacers, adjust your cleat position etc. Hell, the hand position difference between single collar lock on grips and double collar probably changes your torso position as much.
Reach is just one aspect of bike fit. Writing something off because the reach isn't exactly a perceived magic number by 10mm without trying it is very close minded and really not a tech or innovation rumour
Stem length also affects much more than just reach. Can have a massive change on steering feel depending on fork offset
I think you need to look up the definition of “literally.”
A 10 mm difference in reach is tangible whether you want to admit it or not. If you’re anal about your set up, different handlebars, stems, and grips will take time to get used to. I will concede that writing off a bike because of a 1 cm difference is a bit extreme, but it’s definitely something that takes time getting used to.
if you can’t demo a bike, it can be a big gamble. I’m 6’2”. The way reach numbers are going these days, I’m never sure if a large or an extra large is going to be ideal for me.
Vorsprung teasing the new shock
Why would they? The Dominion started with bold claims that Hayes is really coming back to the brake game, at first sales were so-so, but then i guess the first users started raving about them and after some time we really started seeing them regularly. Great brake at a regular price - what more could you want? They need years to prototype something significantly better, but it will probably cost more, so there’s no point!
Everything Geo related is a compromise. Ride a different stem/bar/spacer setup 2 times and it doesn't feel "massively" different anymore. If it still feels bad after 2 rides, revert back and keep searching for the perfect mass produced frame that's absolutely tailor made for just you.
The amount of whinging about brake modulation, tire carcass feel, and geo specs in this thread is ridiculous.
1,000% of non-pro riders are holding the bike back from its true potential, not the other way around. At least Moto guys own it when they're an anal "Vet Rider," who can never stop tinkering. Over here, the bike is the problem, and it's definitely not "proggressive" enough, lol. JFC!
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