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monarchmason
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3/21/2024 9:07am
bermed wrote:
Some of the factory riders are riding non-Kashima forks which as it was pointed out earlier happened last right before the 38 was released.    In...

Some of the factory riders are riding non-Kashima forks which as it was pointed out earlier happened last right before the 38 was released. 
 

In the IG post, the entire fork is blurred out on each bike. 

The man on the left has his top of the fork showing. Says Kashima on it. 

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bermed
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3/21/2024 9:17am
bermed wrote:
Some of the factory riders are riding non-Kashima forks which as it was pointed out earlier happened last right before the 38 was released.    In...

Some of the factory riders are riding non-Kashima forks which as it was pointed out earlier happened last right before the 38 was released. 
 

In the IG post, the entire fork is blurred out on each bike. 

The man on the left has his top of the fork showing. Says Kashima on it. 

I meant that in races, riders like Remi and Richie have been running non-Kashima current-model forks. I think the reason these forks are blurred out is because they're the new chassis.

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3/21/2024 10:49am
bermed wrote:
2024 Altitude leaked on the rocky Japan website 

IMG 2131.jpeg?VersionId=6Y2XHkdCwjl2024 Altitude leaked on the rocky Japan website 

Why the switch to VPP? Thats a big move from Horst (which I prefer)

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3/21/2024 10:50am
bermed wrote:
2024 Altitude leaked on the rocky Japan website 

IMG 2131.jpeg?VersionId=6Y2XHkdCwjl2024 Altitude leaked on the rocky Japan website 

This looks incredible. Bravo rocky. 

Wonder if its just a normal vpp or they're are a bunch of funky flip chips etc. 

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3/21/2024 11:16am
bermed wrote:
2024 Altitude leaked on the rocky Japan website 

IMG 2131.jpeg?VersionId=6Y2XHkdCwjl2024 Altitude leaked on the rocky Japan website 

Nice EndurMegaMaditude!

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3/21/2024 11:23am
bermed wrote:
2024 Altitude leaked on the rocky Japan website 

IMG 2131.jpeg?VersionId=6Y2XHkdCwjl2024 Altitude leaked on the rocky Japan website 

This looks incredible. Bravo rocky. 

Wonder if its just a normal vpp or they're are a bunch of funky flip chips etc. 

It looks like it's using their Ride4 chip at the forward shock mount, and is also using reach adjust headset cup/chips. 

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blensen
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It's definitely funky. Adjustable for wheel size, lower pivot is concentric with the bottom bracket and drives the shock. Also includes in-frame storage and has some nice details like good access to the high speed rebound on Fox shocks from the non-drive side.

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3/21/2024 12:19pm
bermed wrote:
So is the new Fox fork chassis incoming imminently? This is a GMBN journalist.

So is the new Fox fork chassis incoming imminently? This is a GMBN journalist.Screenshot 2024-03-21 at 9.11.41%E2%80%AFAM

Chassis are censored because, colors. 

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bermed wrote:
2024 Altitude leaked on the rocky Japan website 

IMG 2131.jpeg?VersionId=6Y2XHkdCwjl2024 Altitude leaked on the rocky Japan website 

Why the switch to VPP? Thats a big move from Horst (which I prefer)

VPP patent is now expired so no more licensing fees open up option for brands. Might see the same when the DW4 patent expire.

Same thing that happened when Horst link patent expired around 2016? and DT/Hugi star ratchet for freehubs 2 years ago ?

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3/21/2024 2:22pm
bermed wrote:
Some of the factory riders are riding non-Kashima forks which as it was pointed out earlier happened last right before the 38 was released.    In...

Some of the factory riders are riding non-Kashima forks which as it was pointed out earlier happened last right before the 38 was released. 
 

In the IG post, the entire fork is blurred out on each bike. 

The man on the left has his top of the fork showing. Says Kashima on it. 

bermed wrote:
I meant that in races, riders like Remi and Richie have been running non-Kashima current-model forks. I think the reason these forks are blurred out is...

I meant that in races, riders like Remi and Richie have been running non-Kashima current-model forks. I think the reason these forks are blurred out is because they're the new chassis.

Seems that top tier guys run non-kash for the off season. Same deal when the 38 dropped

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bizutch wrote:
My favorite brake of all time is when I've ridden other guys Hope brakes. But I have Codes & Guides on current bikes just due to...

My favorite brake of all time is when I've ridden other guys Hope brakes.
But I have Codes & Guides on current bikes just due to "winding up with", not seeeking out.

I'm like Krispy & run my reach adjust fairly close to the bar.  Don't like reaching way out to pull a lever in just for "feel or modulation".
Modulation should happen from a half pull and to the bar itself.  
The one thing I can't stand about my Codes and/or Guides is that if you're on a ripper running day of laps, at some point either you gotta back the lever out to a reach point that's inconvenient to make up for pad wear & get more throw in to get your power/bite point back.
OR...you get the reach right, the power almost perfect BUT...then you feel the perch and lever flex toward and sometimes touch the grip when you've got a heavy yank.

Maven's sound like a damn nightmare to me.  I want to buy/try them. But damn...I do NOT want to pull wheels, try rotors, try the next rotor, then maybe the next one, then go back through trying a different pad with each style rotor and....good lord!

krabo83 wrote:
i swiched to mavens coming from code RCSs, still riding 200mm front and rear, only thing i changed was now running organic pads in both ends...

i swiched to mavens coming from code RCSs, still riding 200mm front and rear, only thing i changed was now running organic pads in both ends. tried sintered in the rear same as with codes but wheel locked up too quick for my taste. now with organics on both ends brake is real dream, same feel/modulation as codes but with way more power. lever pull isn‘t any firmer than on the codes. can only recommend tryin mavens. hope that helped Smile

edit: also i‘m on the lighter side with around 165lbs.

Same on all fronts, 200 front and rear on organic pads, but I came from the SRAM Code Ultimate Stealths and Code RSCs before that. Just got back from a trip to Santa Cruz area and finally got to ride mine up there, maybe I got lucky but the lever pull feels exactly the same as my Stealth's did, but the brakes are way more powerful so you can brake later with one good stab of the levers then let off and keep rolling. BIG fan so far...

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3/21/2024 3:30pm
bermed wrote:
2024 Altitude leaked on the rocky Japan website 

IMG 2131.jpeg?VersionId=6Y2XHkdCwjl2024 Altitude leaked on the rocky Japan website 

that link is smoll

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3/21/2024 3:42pm
blensen wrote:
It's definitely funky. Adjustable for wheel size, lower pivot is concentric with the bottom bracket and drives the shock. Also includes in-frame storage and has some...

It's definitely funky. Adjustable for wheel size, lower pivot is concentric with the bottom bracket and drives the shock. Also includes in-frame storage and has some nice details like good access to the high speed rebound on Fox shocks from the non-drive side.

Doesn't the Intense Tracer also use a BB-concentric lower pivot? It'll be interesting to hear (eventually) if this new Rocky rides like existing VPP bikes, or if they've managed to do something unique... for better or for worse.

bermed
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3/21/2024 4:57pm

New Norco XC bike incoming?

 

Screenshot 2024-03-21 at 9.17.17%E2%80%AFAM

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3/21/2024 5:49pm
bermed wrote:
New Norco XC bike incoming?  

New Norco XC bike incoming?

 

Screenshot 2024-03-21 at 9.17.17%E2%80%AFAM

Probably the new VLT Range that he was riding a few pages back. There is a Sight coming as well.

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3/21/2024 6:03pm
bermed wrote:
2024 Altitude leaked on the rocky Japan website 

IMG 2131.jpeg?VersionId=6Y2XHkdCwjl2024 Altitude leaked on the rocky Japan website 

but where will the dyname engine fit on the powerplay model Smile  

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3/21/2024 8:20pm
blensen wrote:
It's definitely funky. Adjustable for wheel size, lower pivot is concentric with the bottom bracket and drives the shock. Also includes in-frame storage and has some...

It's definitely funky. Adjustable for wheel size, lower pivot is concentric with the bottom bracket and drives the shock. Also includes in-frame storage and has some nice details like good access to the high speed rebound on Fox shocks from the non-drive side.

Doesn't the Intense Tracer also use a BB-concentric lower pivot? It'll be interesting to hear (eventually) if this new Rocky rides like existing VPP bikes, or...

Doesn't the Intense Tracer also use a BB-concentric lower pivot? It'll be interesting to hear (eventually) if this new Rocky rides like existing VPP bikes, or if they've managed to do something unique... for better or for worse.

I can assure you that the new Altitude rides like like a Rocky Mountain, but better! We wanted that firm feeling again; had to go back to our roots.p5pb15515379.jpg?VersionId=KR6wFispHuetJBQP3U8jx52py

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3/21/2024 8:36pm
1llumA wrote:
VPP patent is now expired so no more licensing fees open up option for brands. Might see the same when the DW4 patent expire. Same thing...

VPP patent is now expired so no more licensing fees open up option for brands. Might see the same when the DW4 patent expire.

Same thing that happened when Horst link patent expired around 2016? and DT/Hugi star ratchet for freehubs 2 years ago ?

I get that its been expired for a bit, but still, why? Horst link usually rides better, and as others have said this looks like an Intense clone with the bottom access frame storage, concentric BB lower pivot, and short VPP links. 

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3/21/2024 10:31pm
1llumA wrote:
VPP patent is now expired so no more licensing fees open up option for brands. Might see the same when the DW4 patent expire. Same thing...

VPP patent is now expired so no more licensing fees open up option for brands. Might see the same when the DW4 patent expire.

Same thing that happened when Horst link patent expired around 2016? and DT/Hugi star ratchet for freehubs 2 years ago ?

I get that its been expired for a bit, but still, why? Horst link usually rides better, and as others have said this looks like an...

I get that its been expired for a bit, but still, why? Horst link usually rides better, and as others have said this looks like an Intense clone with the bottom access frame storage, concentric BB lower pivot, and short VPP links. 

They were trying to lower the center of gravity as much as possible with that one, which they succeeded, that shock is low. My understanding is they worked very hard to keep the poppy feel of the old bike mixed with the VPP style lay out, which usually doesn't work well together. I'll follow up when mine gets here. 

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3/22/2024 12:12am
More high pivot sender

IMG 0954More high pivot sender

Blackbox Boxxer too. Naturally it'll be getting 3.1, but what else being so new?

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3/22/2024 12:38am
More high pivot sender

IMG 0954More high pivot sender

Blackbox Boxxer too. Naturally it'll be getting 3.1, but what else being so new?

Flight Attendant, you can see it on the top of the right fork leg. 

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3/22/2024 1:47am
More high pivot sender

IMG 0954More high pivot sender

Blackbox Boxxer too. Naturally it'll be getting 3.1, but what else being so new?

Sakes wrote:

Flight Attendant, you can see it on the top of the right fork leg. 

True. Forgive me rumour gods, for I didn't look at every pixel before commenting.

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3/22/2024 4:16am
1llumA wrote:
VPP patent is now expired so no more licensing fees open up option for brands. Might see the same when the DW4 patent expire. Same thing...

VPP patent is now expired so no more licensing fees open up option for brands. Might see the same when the DW4 patent expire.

Same thing that happened when Horst link patent expired around 2016? and DT/Hugi star ratchet for freehubs 2 years ago ?

I get that its been expired for a bit, but still, why? Horst link usually rides better, and as others have said this looks like an...

I get that its been expired for a bit, but still, why? Horst link usually rides better, and as others have said this looks like an Intense clone with the bottom access frame storage, concentric BB lower pivot, and short VPP links. 

Frame storage is not bottom access. That alone would be enough to pick it over the Tracer for me. 

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3/22/2024 7:19am Edited Date/Time 3/22/2024 7:21am

here's a real pic of luca's canyon in a tuxedo

Luca Shaw interview-3

a full-body bike tuxedo could be rad for mechanics. wouldn't have to clean anything. #bringBackForkBoots

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