MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation

Related:
owl-x
Posts
439
Joined
3/23/2016
Location
Seattle, WA US
3/18/2024 5:18pm
dolface wrote:

LOL at 160lbs being "super light"... 'murica!

Shinook wrote:
Muscle mass and height can attribute to weight too. I know a lot of riders over 200lbs that are super strong and I’d be surprised if...

Muscle mass and height can attribute to weight too. I know a lot of riders over 200lbs that are super strong and I’d be surprised if most elite DH or enduro riders over 6ft aren’t close to or over that.

I am 210 due to pizza, beer and cake less than gym time, but that’s not everyone.

How many World Cup riders are 200+, in your estimation? I’d say zero.
 

 

4
10
Shinook
Posts
85
Joined
12/29/2015
Location
Asheville, NC US
3/18/2024 5:39pm
owl-x wrote:

How many World Cup riders are 200+, in your estimation? I’d say zero.
 

 

Richie Rude is 92kg

How many? I have no idea, there isn't a lot of info on elite athletes and their weight ranges, but it isn't hard for someone muscular over 6ft to break 200lbs or be close. They aren't bumping 220, 230, etc, but approaching or over 200lbs isn't unreasonable for a 6ft tall or taller athlete especially in a discipline requiring as much gym time as DH or enduro.

12
3/18/2024 5:40pm
owl-x wrote:

How many World Cup riders are 200+, in your estimation? I’d say zero.
 

 

Shinook wrote:
Richie Rude is 92kg How many? I have no idea, there isn't a lot of info on elite athletes and their weight ranges, but it isn't...

Richie Rude is 92kg

How many? I have no idea, there isn't a lot of info on elite athletes and their weight ranges, but it isn't hard for someone muscular over 6ft to break 200lbs or be close. They aren't bumping 220, 230, etc, but approaching or over 200lbs isn't unreasonable for a 6ft tall or taller athlete especially in a discipline requiring as much gym time as DH or enduro.

Bruni probably isn't far off either.

earleb
Posts
175
Joined
3/23/2023
Location
North Vancouver, BC CA
3/18/2024 6:06pm
owl-x wrote:

How many World Cup riders are 200+, in your estimation? I’d say zero.
 

 

Shinook wrote:
Richie Rude is 92kg How many? I have no idea, there isn't a lot of info on elite athletes and their weight ranges, but it isn't...

Richie Rude is 92kg

How many? I have no idea, there isn't a lot of info on elite athletes and their weight ranges, but it isn't hard for someone muscular over 6ft to break 200lbs or be close. They aren't bumping 220, 230, etc, but approaching or over 200lbs isn't unreasonable for a 6ft tall or taller athlete especially in a discipline requiring as much gym time as DH or enduro.

Bruni probably isn't far off either.

2021 bike check on Pinkbike lists Bruni as 75kg. So not close to 200lbs /90kg.

3
matmattmatthew
Posts
301
Joined
6/14/2014
Location
Fresh Prince of Bel Air, MD US
3/18/2024 7:01pm

Stay on target boys!  We are drifting into Weight Rumors and Innovation territory.  

21
Digit Bikes
Posts
42
Joined
9/22/2021
Location
Irvine, CA US
3/18/2024 7:04pm

With zero press or fanfare (that I noticed), this new (v4) AXS pod showed up on Sram's website.

Has anyone touched it yet? I'm a fan of the Rocker Paddle (v2), I was was kinda ambivilent toward v1 which I think maybe this is trying to emulate. I don't get along with the first pods (v3).

https://www.sram.com/en/sram/models/ec-axs-podr-c1

image-20240318182900-3

25
dknapton
Posts
46
Joined
11/5/2020
Location
CA
3/18/2024 9:17pm

The other site has an article with a bit of an update on why they think Bernards Pivot broke. A comment from the main Pivot guy. 

8
Stewyeww
Posts
212
Joined
6/10/2021
Location
CA
3/18/2024 9:53pm
earleb wrote:

2021 bike check on Pinkbike lists Bruni as 75kg. So not close to 200lbs /90kg.

That was a few years ago now, I don't study mountain bikers physique year to year but a few off seasons in the gym will would get him up there pretty easily

Marcus J
Posts
39
Joined
7/14/2017
Location
SE
3/18/2024 11:29pm
With zero press or fanfare (that I noticed), this new (v4) AXS pod showed up on Sram's website. Has anyone touched it yet? I'm a fan...

With zero press or fanfare (that I noticed), this new (v4) AXS pod showed up on Sram's website.

Has anyone touched it yet? I'm a fan of the Rocker Paddle (v2), I was was kinda ambivilent toward v1 which I think maybe this is trying to emulate. I don't get along with the first pods (v3).

https://www.sram.com/en/sram/models/ec-axs-podr-c1

image-20240318182900-3

There is supposed to be a "v2" left paddle. That would be my pick if i went down the transmission etc ecosystem. (I like my v2 shifter)

image-20240319072723-1

2
FullSend
Posts
349
Joined
7/14/2021
Location
DE
3/19/2024 12:10am
dknapton wrote:

The other site has an article with a bit of an update on why they think Bernards Pivot broke. A comment from the main Pivot guy. 

„… the main Pivot guy“

I see what you did thereGrinning

 

It’s basically like we speculated. Chris states galvanic corrosion as the suspected reason for the failure. He thinks that the surface treatment of the alloy lugs, prior to bonding, failed and as a result the adhesive didn’t create as firm of a bond. Bonding aluminum to plastic successfully and permanently is always quite difficult. I wonder why they didn’t stick to alloy tubes and went with carbon in the first place. The minor weight savings are totally negligible for a DH bike IMO.

3
Primoz
Posts
3743
Joined
8/1/2009
Location
SI
3/19/2024 12:20am

I think they make carbon tubes in house and can make them bent if need be. It's not as easy to bend aluminium tubes. 

2
sr_34
Posts
18
Joined
7/23/2021
Location
DE
3/19/2024 12:36am

Atherton

Atherton Aluminium launch today?

5
sethimus
Posts
310
Joined
9/20/2014
Location
CH
3/19/2024 12:51am
Marcus J wrote:
Also, the wireless Blips now work standalone without having a controller or blipbox hidden somewhere: https://bikerumor.com/sram-wireless-blips-can-now-be-paired-w-o-shifters/  Could be nice to have one on each side for up...

Also, the wireless Blips now work standalone without having a controller or blipbox hidden somewhere: https://bikerumor.com/sram-wireless-blips-can-now-be-paired-w-o-shifter…;

Could be nice to have one on each side for up and down

Dangerholm approves

2
veefour
Posts
599
Joined
7/31/2016
Location
Cinderford GB
3/19/2024 2:53am
Marcus J wrote:
Also, the wireless Blips now work standalone without having a controller or blipbox hidden somewhere: https://bikerumor.com/sram-wireless-blips-can-now-be-paired-w-o-shifters/  Could be nice to have one on each side for up...

Also, the wireless Blips now work standalone without having a controller or blipbox hidden somewhere: https://bikerumor.com/sram-wireless-blips-can-now-be-paired-w-o-shifter…;

Could be nice to have one on each side for up and down

sethimus wrote:

Dangerholm approves

Only if they can be colour matched to prosthetic limbs.

1
Primoz
Posts
3743
Joined
8/1/2009
Location
SI
3/19/2024 3:06am
Marcus J wrote:
Also, the wireless Blips now work standalone without having a controller or blipbox hidden somewhere: https://bikerumor.com/sram-wireless-blips-can-now-be-paired-w-o-shifters/  Could be nice to have one on each side for up...

Also, the wireless Blips now work standalone without having a controller or blipbox hidden somewhere: https://bikerumor.com/sram-wireless-blips-can-now-be-paired-w-o-shifter…;

Could be nice to have one on each side for up and down

"The Wireless Blips are not rechargeable and need to be recycled with other electronics when they stop working. SRAM estimates their battery life at up to two years, with more frequent riders likely getting a little over a year out of them." 

a.) planned obsolescence much? And b.) the EU will have something to say about this if I understand correctly (removable batteries requirement and all) 

20
sethimus
Posts
310
Joined
9/20/2014
Location
CH
3/19/2024 3:29am
Marcus J wrote:
Also, the wireless Blips now work standalone without having a controller or blipbox hidden somewhere: https://bikerumor.com/sram-wireless-blips-can-now-be-paired-w-o-shifters/  Could be nice to have one on each side for up...

Also, the wireless Blips now work standalone without having a controller or blipbox hidden somewhere: https://bikerumor.com/sram-wireless-blips-can-now-be-paired-w-o-shifter…;

Could be nice to have one on each side for up and down

Primoz wrote:
"The Wireless Blips are not rechargeable and need to be recycled with other electronics when they stop working. SRAM estimates their battery life at up to...

"The Wireless Blips are not rechargeable and need to be recycled with other electronics when they stop working. SRAM estimates their battery life at up to two years, with more frequent riders likely getting a little over a year out of them." 

a.) planned obsolescence much? And b.) the EU will have something to say about this if I understand correctly (removable batteries requirement and all) 

its like the red powermeter reloaded, obsolete when the chainring is worn

6
gibbon
Posts
456
Joined
3/7/2019
Location
GB
3/19/2024 4:19am
sethimus wrote:

its like the red powermeter reloaded, obsolete when the chainring is worn

I've had that conversation with someone (triathlete) about a year after they launched the new RED.

"My gears are slipping"
'Your inner chainring is really badly worn and chain wear is waaay past 1%'
"oh ....I've only done 8k on it" (seemingly without ever cleaning it)
'and it's one piece with the outer ring and power meter.....but SRAM do a trade in service at 50% discount'
"oh that is a relief I thought it was going to be expensive!!"
'Well the original price is £800, so it's still £400 plus a chain and a cassette at £350 and labour'
It took about 35 minutes for them to calm down including threatening to call trading standards and the police.
About 6 months later they came back complaining about their brakes making a funny noise.......worn through the pads,the backing plate and into the pistons.
 

23
dolface
Posts
1339
Joined
10/26/2015
Location
CA US
3/19/2024 5:13am
Stewyeww wrote:
That was a few years ago now, I don't study mountain bikers physique year to year but a few off seasons in the gym will would...

That was a few years ago now, I don't study mountain bikers physique year to year but a few off seasons in the gym will would get him up there pretty easily

It *could* but he's on-record saying he was planning to drop 12kg for this season (no idea if he's done it tho...)

nskerb
Posts
263
Joined
3/3/2020
Location
Kelso, WA US
3/19/2024 5:20am
Marcus J wrote:
There is supposed to be a "v2" left paddle. That would be my pick if i went down the transmission etc ecosystem. (I like my v2...

There is supposed to be a "v2" left paddle. That would be my pick if i went down the transmission etc ecosystem. (I like my v2 shifter)

image-20240319072723-1

Not a personal attack but the fact that sram has us using the term “ecosystem” makes me wanna barf all over. 

15
2
gibbon
Posts
456
Joined
3/7/2019
Location
GB
3/19/2024 5:28am
nskerb wrote:

Not a personal attack but the fact that sram has us using the term “ecosystem” makes me wanna barf all over. 

Ant BS newspeak makes my skin crawl. When people use it at me I have to squash the urge to stop them and ask what it means everytime.

2
1
jonkranked
Posts
856
Joined
5/5/2016
Location
Norristown, PA US
3/19/2024 5:55am
gibbon wrote:
I've had that conversation with someone (triathlete) about a year after they launched the new RED. "My gears are slipping" 'Your inner chainring is really badly...

I've had that conversation with someone (triathlete) about a year after they launched the new RED.

"My gears are slipping"
'Your inner chainring is really badly worn and chain wear is waaay past 1%'
"oh ....I've only done 8k on it" (seemingly without ever cleaning it)
'and it's one piece with the outer ring and power meter.....but SRAM do a trade in service at 50% discount'
"oh that is a relief I thought it was going to be expensive!!"
'Well the original price is £800, so it's still £400 plus a chain and a cassette at £350 and labour'
It took about 35 minutes for them to calm down including threatening to call trading standards and the police.
About 6 months later they came back complaining about their brakes making a funny noise.......worn through the pads,the backing plate and into the pistons.
 

even back when i was a shop mechanic in the mid 00s, dealing with triathletes was the absolute worst. i can't imagine how insufferable they are today. 

19
3/19/2024 7:28am
sspomer wrote:
rocky undercover at the windrock enduro

rocky undercover at the windrock enduro

sockymtn

RockyCover1.jpg?VersionId=wzf6cakE09

RockyCover2

Wait, Rocky Mountain going VPP?

3
pinkrobe
Posts
179
Joined
5/16/2015
Location
Revelstoke, BC CA
3/19/2024 7:36am
gibbon wrote:
I've had that conversation with someone (triathlete) about a year after they launched the new RED. "My gears are slipping" 'Your inner chainring is really badly...

I've had that conversation with someone (triathlete) about a year after they launched the new RED.

"My gears are slipping"
'Your inner chainring is really badly worn and chain wear is waaay past 1%'
"oh ....I've only done 8k on it" (seemingly without ever cleaning it)
'and it's one piece with the outer ring and power meter.....but SRAM do a trade in service at 50% discount'
"oh that is a relief I thought it was going to be expensive!!"
'Well the original price is £800, so it's still £400 plus a chain and a cassette at £350 and labour'
It took about 35 minutes for them to calm down including threatening to call trading standards and the police.
About 6 months later they came back complaining about their brakes making a funny noise.......worn through the pads,the backing plate and into the pistons.
 

jonkranked wrote:
even back when i was a shop mechanic in the mid 00s, dealing with triathletes was the absolute worst. i can't imagine how insufferable they are...

even back when i was a shop mechanic in the mid 00s, dealing with triathletes was the absolute worst. i can't imagine how insufferable they are today. 

We had to introduce a "piss charge" of $100 for hosing the tri bikes down before the techs worked on them. IYKYK. Sick

26
Losifer
Posts
364
Joined
9/12/2017
Location
Sandia Park, NM US
3/19/2024 7:48am
gibbon wrote:
I've had that conversation with someone (triathlete) about a year after they launched the new RED. "My gears are slipping" 'Your inner chainring is really badly...

I've had that conversation with someone (triathlete) about a year after they launched the new RED.

"My gears are slipping"
'Your inner chainring is really badly worn and chain wear is waaay past 1%'
"oh ....I've only done 8k on it" (seemingly without ever cleaning it)
'and it's one piece with the outer ring and power meter.....but SRAM do a trade in service at 50% discount'
"oh that is a relief I thought it was going to be expensive!!"
'Well the original price is £800, so it's still £400 plus a chain and a cassette at £350 and labour'
It took about 35 minutes for them to calm down including threatening to call trading standards and the police.
About 6 months later they came back complaining about their brakes making a funny noise.......worn through the pads,the backing plate and into the pistons.
 

jonkranked wrote:
even back when i was a shop mechanic in the mid 00s, dealing with triathletes was the absolute worst. i can't imagine how insufferable they are...

even back when i was a shop mechanic in the mid 00s, dealing with triathletes was the absolute worst. i can't imagine how insufferable they are today. 

pinkrobe wrote:
We had to introduce a "piss charge" of $100 for hosing the tri bikes down before the techs worked on them. IYKYK. 

We had to introduce a "piss charge" of $100 for hosing the tri bikes down before the techs worked on them. IYKYK. Sick

Washing tri bikes before I would touch them was the role of the youngest kid in the shop.

7
1

Post a reply to: MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation

The Latest