Make your own bike park by installing a zip line from the top to the bottom, and send your battery down by itself every time you...
Make your own bike park by installing a zip line from the top to the bottom, and send your battery down by itself every time you finish the climb. Shred down and pick up your battery again at the bottom.
Better idea: you pay me to ride down with you, I put the battery in my backpack (I'm apparently one of dozens who still like their...
Better idea: you pay me to ride down with you, I put the battery in my backpack (I'm apparently one of dozens who still like their backpack), then tow me back up!
If you beat me to the bottom by more than 5% of your run's time, you get the next three runs free!!
But actually removable batteries and locked charging banks could make an e-bike park (shudder) a real thing. Bring two batteries, one charges while you ride the other on turbo, then swap to the one that was charging and repeat. Body will probably give out before needing another swap so maybe just having lockers with your spare battery in it...
This is exactly what we have been doing. Since March of 2020.
I guess? 🤷Personally I only ride up so I can ride down. If the down is less fun, it doesn’t really matter to me how much...
I guess? 🤷
Personally I only ride up so I can ride down. If the down is less fun, it doesn’t really matter to me how much easier the climb is.
I’d be curious how light you could make an ebike without a large internal battery that just ran on a small external battery. (like the size of a range extender) If I could get like 2 of my local laps (1000-1200ft of vert) on a mini-pack and just swap them out at the truck, that would be kinda cool. Just keep a few batteries in the truck. For longer rides you could stick one in a fanny pack water bottle slot.
An Ebike isn’t just about making the climb easier. At least that’s what I’ve learned about them. It’s more about time management. I don’t have to plan my whole day around a ride on my favorite trail.
You can also get to trails that you don’t ride as much because they are easier to access. It’s also interesting to run them in a different direction that wouldn’t be feasible on your regular bike. Did I mention climbing technical trails has a whole new spin to it?
I still prefer riding my analog bike to be fair. Ebikes are just another tool in the quiver to make riding fun.
Make your own bike park by installing a zip line from the top to the bottom, and send your battery down by itself every time you...
Make your own bike park by installing a zip line from the top to the bottom, and send your battery down by itself every time you finish the climb. Shred down and pick up your battery again at the bottom.
Better idea: you pay me to ride down with you, I put the battery in my backpack (I'm apparently one of dozens who still like their...
Better idea: you pay me to ride down with you, I put the battery in my backpack (I'm apparently one of dozens who still like their backpack), then tow me back up!
If you beat me to the bottom by more than 5% of your run's time, you get the next three runs free!!
But actually removable batteries and locked charging banks could make an e-bike park (shudder) a real thing. Bring two batteries, one charges while you ride the other on turbo, then swap to the one that was charging and repeat. Body will probably give out before needing another swap so maybe just having lockers with your spare battery in it...
E-bike parks already exist. Well, at least one. We have a small bike park in Korea that is exclusive to E's for some reason. You can turn laps in about 10 minutes. Another bike park set up an open-side shed with outlets for bike/battery charging in the parking lot. People leave their battery and charger there for a few hours as they turn laps. No lockers or anything, just all sitting out in the open in the shed.
I don’t know, a Slash+ is like 46lb.For me personally, the self shuttle aspect of ebikes is completely ruined by the fact that they all seem...
I don’t know, a Slash+ is like 46lb.
For me personally, the self shuttle aspect of ebikes is completely ruined by the fact that they all seem to descend like crap because they’re so heavy. Good luck unweighting the bike to change lines. I always feel kinda forced to just smash through whatever is in front of me with no finesse.
I guess? 🤷Personally I only ride up so I can ride down. If the down is less fun, it doesn’t really matter to me how much...
I guess? 🤷
Personally I only ride up so I can ride down. If the down is less fun, it doesn’t really matter to me how much easier the climb is.
I’d be curious how light you could make an ebike without a large internal battery that just ran on a small external battery. (like the size of a range extender) If I could get like 2 of my local laps (1000-1200ft of vert) on a mini-pack and just swap them out at the truck, that would be kinda cool. Just keep a few batteries in the truck. For longer rides you could stick one in a fanny pack water bottle slot.
And I thought I was Weight Weenie! That is some contradictory shit right there. You want a bike absolutely as light as possible to optimize, the descents?! LOL
All this trouble and a custom one-off e-bike not useful for most riders that want to do more than just the same 600' lap for the rest of their lives, to save 2#s. Hopefully you are not a project manager or that brand is going bust!
A Relay frame weighs about 6#s. The battery weighs 5#s and does about 2-3.5K' in turbo mode and you can swap the battery quickly if need be. There is your solution, and you'll be able to double your descents.
I browse a lot of DIY ebike forums, and I'm still surpirsed there isn't a good bolt-on ebike kit that doesn't make your bike look like a high school engineering project. We don't need 1000 watt motors and batteries the size of a backpack, like someone said before an ultra compact and lightweight solution thats putting out even less power than the lightweight SL ebikes. A motor that tops out at 200 watts so you can get away with a 280 wh battery. Some of people's DIY builds get rather sleek looking, and when you make your own battery bank and don't have to worry about liability, they can integrate well into the bike. Imagine if you just strapped your battery to the downtube, adding minimal bulk, and swapped your crankset to get an "Eco mode only" ebike that adds maybe 6 pounds to the experience.
I know there are a few "solutions" out there like this, but none of them seem viable yet. Theres the brake mounted one, a Hammershcmit chainring-style one, and CYC, which is probably the only one I would trust at this point.
I browse a lot of DIY ebike forums, and I'm still surpirsed there isn't a good bolt-on ebike kit that doesn't make your bike look like...
I browse a lot of DIY ebike forums, and I'm still surpirsed there isn't a good bolt-on ebike kit that doesn't make your bike look like a high school engineering project. We don't need 1000 watt motors and batteries the size of a backpack, like someone said before an ultra compact and lightweight solution thats putting out even less power than the lightweight SL ebikes. A motor that tops out at 200 watts so you can get away with a 280 wh battery. Some of people's DIY builds get rather sleek looking, and when you make your own battery bank and don't have to worry about liability, they can integrate well into the bike. Imagine if you just strapped your battery to the downtube, adding minimal bulk, and swapped your crankset to get an "Eco mode only" ebike that adds maybe 6 pounds to the experience.
I know there are a few "solutions" out there like this, but none of them seem viable yet. Theres the brake mounted one, a Hammershcmit chainring-style one, and CYC, which is probably the only one I would trust at this point.
I browse a lot of DIY ebike forums, and I'm still surpirsed there isn't a good bolt-on ebike kit that doesn't make your bike look like...
I browse a lot of DIY ebike forums, and I'm still surpirsed there isn't a good bolt-on ebike kit that doesn't make your bike look like a high school engineering project. We don't need 1000 watt motors and batteries the size of a backpack, like someone said before an ultra compact and lightweight solution thats putting out even less power than the lightweight SL ebikes. A motor that tops out at 200 watts so you can get away with a 280 wh battery. Some of people's DIY builds get rather sleek looking, and when you make your own battery bank and don't have to worry about liability, they can integrate well into the bike. Imagine if you just strapped your battery to the downtube, adding minimal bulk, and swapped your crankset to get an "Eco mode only" ebike that adds maybe 6 pounds to the experience.
I know there are a few "solutions" out there like this, but none of them seem viable yet. Theres the brake mounted one, a Hammershcmit chainring-style one, and CYC, which is probably the only one I would trust at this point.
In all seriousness this would put me at 44 lbs. I’m poor so I can’t afford an ebike, but most riders would rather have a nice ebike that’s well integrated that weighs the same, has dealer supported service and warranty and an app that tracks your jumps
I guess? 🤷Personally I only ride up so I can ride down. If the down is less fun, it doesn’t really matter to me how much...
I guess? 🤷
Personally I only ride up so I can ride down. If the down is less fun, it doesn’t really matter to me how much easier the climb is.
I’d be curious how light you could make an ebike without a large internal battery that just ran on a small external battery. (like the size of a range extender) If I could get like 2 of my local laps (1000-1200ft of vert) on a mini-pack and just swap them out at the truck, that would be kinda cool. Just keep a few batteries in the truck. For longer rides you could stick one in a fanny pack water bottle slot.
An Ebike isn’t just about making the climb easier. At least that’s what I’ve learned about them. It’s more about time management. I don’t have to...
An Ebike isn’t just about making the climb easier. At least that’s what I’ve learned about them. It’s more about time management. I don’t have to plan my whole day around a ride on my favorite trail.
You can also get to trails that you don’t ride as much because they are easier to access. It’s also interesting to run them in a different direction that wouldn’t be feasible on your regular bike. Did I mention climbing technical trails has a whole new spin to it?
I still prefer riding my analog bike to be fair. Ebikes are just another tool in the quiver to make riding fun.
I just got an ebike and it's blowing my mind. I don't think I was ever an ass about it, but I was certainly a bit judgy before. Now, I get it. For me, it just eliminates the slow, sloggy parts of the ride – it's always cruisy and fun. Plus, the penalty for using reliable, confidence-inspiring parts – beefy tires, big brakes, hefty suspension – is essentially eliminated.
Isn't going to replace analog riding for me, it's gonna get me on a bike more, because I don't have to search for motivation when I'm tired, time pressed, or it's 90+ out. It's just FUN.
Hey guys, I can’t find the post anymore, it’s been a few months at this point, someone mentioned specialized’s releases for this year - it was...
Hey guys, I can’t find the post anymore, it’s been a few months at this point, someone mentioned specialized’s releases for this year - it was a statement from a British bike journalist if I remember correctly. Was it mentioned that the new Enduro would be out this year? Any rumors on the Alu Stumpjumper? Maybe y’all can help a brother out.
The other rumor is that there wont be a bike in speshs line up between the stumpy and the demo - although i have zero evidence to back up this claim
I guess? 🤷Personally I only ride up so I can ride down. If the down is less fun, it doesn’t really matter to me how much...
I guess? 🤷
Personally I only ride up so I can ride down. If the down is less fun, it doesn’t really matter to me how much easier the climb is.
I’d be curious how light you could make an ebike without a large internal battery that just ran on a small external battery. (like the size of a range extender) If I could get like 2 of my local laps (1000-1200ft of vert) on a mini-pack and just swap them out at the truck, that would be kinda cool. Just keep a few batteries in the truck. For longer rides you could stick one in a fanny pack water bottle slot.
An Ebike isn’t just about making the climb easier. At least that’s what I’ve learned about them. It’s more about time management. I don’t have to...
An Ebike isn’t just about making the climb easier. At least that’s what I’ve learned about them. It’s more about time management. I don’t have to plan my whole day around a ride on my favorite trail.
You can also get to trails that you don’t ride as much because they are easier to access. It’s also interesting to run them in a different direction that wouldn’t be feasible on your regular bike. Did I mention climbing technical trails has a whole new spin to it?
I still prefer riding my analog bike to be fair. Ebikes are just another tool in the quiver to make riding fun.
I just got an ebike and it's blowing my mind. I don't think I was ever an ass about it, but I was certainly a bit...
I just got an ebike and it's blowing my mind. I don't think I was ever an ass about it, but I was certainly a bit judgy before. Now, I get it. For me, it just eliminates the slow, sloggy parts of the ride – it's always cruisy and fun. Plus, the penalty for using reliable, confidence-inspiring parts – beefy tires, big brakes, hefty suspension – is essentially eliminated.
Isn't going to replace analog riding for me, it's gonna get me on a bike more, because I don't have to search for motivation when I'm tired, time pressed, or it's 90+ out. It's just FUN.
Absolutely kills tires though. 😆
Same boat as UC and Noah, I was pretty skeptical and I don't shy away from big pedal days but man a big travel e-bike has been nothing but good times for me. I still ride all my bikes, I'm still 4+ W/kg, I haven't gotten fat, and I can pack a whole lot of fun into a small amount of time thanks to my e-bike.
Can't wait for that Pinion MGU - who's got tech rumors of when it'll be available in the US?
Same boat as UC and Noah, I was pretty skeptical and I don't shy away from big pedal days but man a big travel e-bike has...
Same boat as UC and Noah, I was pretty skeptical and I don't shy away from big pedal days but man a big travel e-bike has been nothing but good times for me. I still ride all my bikes, I'm still 4+ W/kg, I haven't gotten fat, and I can pack a whole lot of fun into a small amount of time thanks to my e-bike.
Can't wait for that Pinion MGU - who's got tech rumors of when it'll be available in the US?
Original release date was "sometime 2025" which means 2026 at the soonest.
I rode my ebike a lot the first year, then got kinda bored. Most people I used to ride all mountain with on normal bikes are now riding more enduro on ebikes and it's not my thing. I don't care much about going fast either up or down, I care more about being in movement through the landscape. I wanted an ebike to make the ride longer (and less painful), not faster and steeper. I mostly ride my rigid fatbike now. But the whole group I used to ride with has changed, kinda exploded with covid.
Make your own bike park by installing a zip line from the top to the bottom, and send your battery down by itself every time you...
Make your own bike park by installing a zip line from the top to the bottom, and send your battery down by itself every time you finish the climb. Shred down and pick up your battery again at the bottom.
Better idea: you pay me to ride down with you, I put the battery in my backpack (I'm apparently one of dozens who still like their...
Better idea: you pay me to ride down with you, I put the battery in my backpack (I'm apparently one of dozens who still like their backpack), then tow me back up!
If you beat me to the bottom by more than 5% of your run's time, you get the next three runs free!!
But actually removable batteries and locked charging banks could make an e-bike park (shudder) a real thing. Bring two batteries, one charges while you ride the other on turbo, then swap to the one that was charging and repeat. Body will probably give out before needing another swap so maybe just having lockers with your spare battery in it...
Sounds like skypark minus the battery lockers already
Hey guys, I can’t find the post anymore, it’s been a few months at this point, someone mentioned specialized’s releases for this year - it was...
Hey guys, I can’t find the post anymore, it’s been a few months at this point, someone mentioned specialized’s releases for this year - it was a statement from a British bike journalist if I remember correctly. Was it mentioned that the new Enduro would be out this year? Any rumors on the Alu Stumpjumper? Maybe y’all can help a brother out.
are the downvotes based on? cause i'm talking facts here, oh let's remember the 28gr for a udh, so at the axle, Gx vs GX t-type...
are the downvotes based on? cause i'm talking facts here, oh let's remember the 28gr for a udh, so at the axle, Gx vs GX t-type you have ( cassette + deralieur ) 738gr vs 936gr, so 200gr of extra unsprung weight, on a total of 219gr more for t- type, now on XO is 370gr, so the huge (100gr) weight saving on the frame are not only gone but gone right at your rear axle, nice
I've been away for a while, so not checking regularly for a couple weeks, so I spent a couple hours trying to catch up, prolly 12 or so pages
the content and tone of comments has changed drastically in the last year. I can only assume with increased users and engagement, which has brought along with it, a much more negative and judgy tone. I was drawn to this comment section for the rumours and innovation (and spy shots, and great info from the likes or TEAMROBOT, Cascade, Dave, and many others) but I find myself turned off by the overly opinionated, overly critical, divisive nature of the content recently.
We can all agree that bikes, in almost all forms are friggin rad. That rumours, and spy shots of some beautifully CNC'd bit of bike jewellery is friggin rad. That incredibly detailed info about suspension performance, tech bits, and tire compounds is friggin rad.
But can we agree that opinionated views on Sram or Shimano brakes (which is best and why) based on nothing but personal preference is out of place here? That divisive comments about e-bikes that dont serve anyones interest are out of place (not an e-biker, but they look like a cool toy). That snakry comments about suspension setup can be had beneath your breath, at your keyboard. Can we agree that "analog" is redundant, when we can simply refer to e-bikes, as e-bikes.
If any of my comments were shitty to anyone, my bad man, I'll do better.
Like if our comment isnt a rumour, innovation, helpful info, or to hype up cool shit, we simply keep it to ourselves......maybe I just need a break....
I've been away for a while, so not checking regularly for a couple weeks, so I spent a couple hours trying to catch up, prolly 12...
I've been away for a while, so not checking regularly for a couple weeks, so I spent a couple hours trying to catch up, prolly 12 or so pages
the content and tone of comments has changed drastically in the last year. I can only assume with increased users and engagement, which has brought along with it, a much more negative and judgy tone. I was drawn to this comment section for the rumours and innovation (and spy shots, and great info from the likes or TEAMROBOT, Cascade, Dave, and many others) but I find myself turned off by the overly opinionated, overly critical, divisive nature of the content recently.
We can all agree that bikes, in almost all forms are friggin rad. That rumours, and spy shots of some beautifully CNC'd bit of bike jewellery is friggin rad. That incredibly detailed info about suspension performance, tech bits, and tire compounds is friggin rad.
But can we agree that opinionated views on Sram or Shimano brakes (which is best and why) based on nothing but personal preference is out of place here? That divisive comments about e-bikes that dont serve anyones interest are out of place (not an e-biker, but they look like a cool toy). That snakry comments about suspension setup can be had beneath your breath, at your keyboard. Can we agree that "analog" is redundant, when we can simply refer to e-bikes, as e-bikes.
If any of my comments were shitty to anyone, my bad man, I'll do better.
Like if our comment isnt a rumour, innovation, helpful info, or to hype up cool shit, we simply keep it to ourselves......maybe I just need a break....
Agree with all your points, but disappointed that you left electronic shifting off the list of hot topics. Sounds like we need to fight about that some more...
I've been away for a while, so not checking regularly for a couple weeks, so I spent a couple hours trying to catch up, prolly 12...
I've been away for a while, so not checking regularly for a couple weeks, so I spent a couple hours trying to catch up, prolly 12 or so pages
the content and tone of comments has changed drastically in the last year. I can only assume with increased users and engagement, which has brought along with it, a much more negative and judgy tone. I was drawn to this comment section for the rumours and innovation (and spy shots, and great info from the likes or TEAMROBOT, Cascade, Dave, and many others) but I find myself turned off by the overly opinionated, overly critical, divisive nature of the content recently.
We can all agree that bikes, in almost all forms are friggin rad. That rumours, and spy shots of some beautifully CNC'd bit of bike jewellery is friggin rad. That incredibly detailed info about suspension performance, tech bits, and tire compounds is friggin rad.
But can we agree that opinionated views on Sram or Shimano brakes (which is best and why) based on nothing but personal preference is out of place here? That divisive comments about e-bikes that dont serve anyones interest are out of place (not an e-biker, but they look like a cool toy). That snakry comments about suspension setup can be had beneath your breath, at your keyboard. Can we agree that "analog" is redundant, when we can simply refer to e-bikes, as e-bikes.
If any of my comments were shitty to anyone, my bad man, I'll do better.
Like if our comment isnt a rumour, innovation, helpful info, or to hype up cool shit, we simply keep it to ourselves......maybe I just need a break....
Agree with all your points, but disappointed that you left electronic shifting off the list of hot topics. Sounds like we need to fight about that...
Agree with all your points, but disappointed that you left electronic shifting off the list of hot topics. Sounds like we need to fight about that some more...
The vitalmtb forum getting ready to argue about electronic shifting, me included
I've been away for a while, so not checking regularly for a couple weeks, so I spent a couple hours trying to catch up, prolly 12...
I've been away for a while, so not checking regularly for a couple weeks, so I spent a couple hours trying to catch up, prolly 12 or so pages
the content and tone of comments has changed drastically in the last year. I can only assume with increased users and engagement, which has brought along with it, a much more negative and judgy tone. I was drawn to this comment section for the rumours and innovation (and spy shots, and great info from the likes or TEAMROBOT, Cascade, Dave, and many others) but I find myself turned off by the overly opinionated, overly critical, divisive nature of the content recently.
We can all agree that bikes, in almost all forms are friggin rad. That rumours, and spy shots of some beautifully CNC'd bit of bike jewellery is friggin rad. That incredibly detailed info about suspension performance, tech bits, and tire compounds is friggin rad.
But can we agree that opinionated views on Sram or Shimano brakes (which is best and why) based on nothing but personal preference is out of place here? That divisive comments about e-bikes that dont serve anyones interest are out of place (not an e-biker, but they look like a cool toy). That snakry comments about suspension setup can be had beneath your breath, at your keyboard. Can we agree that "analog" is redundant, when we can simply refer to e-bikes, as e-bikes.
If any of my comments were shitty to anyone, my bad man, I'll do better.
Like if our comment isnt a rumour, innovation, helpful info, or to hype up cool shit, we simply keep it to ourselves......maybe I just need a break....
I'd like to bring your attention to the Red site where 2 guys are having a 70+ post argument over the specification (or lack of therein) of mineral oil........we have a long way to go.
I've been away for a while, so not checking regularly for a couple weeks, so I spent a couple hours trying to catch up, prolly 12...
I've been away for a while, so not checking regularly for a couple weeks, so I spent a couple hours trying to catch up, prolly 12 or so pages
the content and tone of comments has changed drastically in the last year. I can only assume with increased users and engagement, which has brought along with it, a much more negative and judgy tone. I was drawn to this comment section for the rumours and innovation (and spy shots, and great info from the likes or TEAMROBOT, Cascade, Dave, and many others) but I find myself turned off by the overly opinionated, overly critical, divisive nature of the content recently.
We can all agree that bikes, in almost all forms are friggin rad. That rumours, and spy shots of some beautifully CNC'd bit of bike jewellery is friggin rad. That incredibly detailed info about suspension performance, tech bits, and tire compounds is friggin rad.
But can we agree that opinionated views on Sram or Shimano brakes (which is best and why) based on nothing but personal preference is out of place here? That divisive comments about e-bikes that dont serve anyones interest are out of place (not an e-biker, but they look like a cool toy). That snakry comments about suspension setup can be had beneath your breath, at your keyboard. Can we agree that "analog" is redundant, when we can simply refer to e-bikes, as e-bikes.
If any of my comments were shitty to anyone, my bad man, I'll do better.
Like if our comment isnt a rumour, innovation, helpful info, or to hype up cool shit, we simply keep it to ourselves......maybe I just need a break....
You make some good points but this is also very get off my lawn.
I've been away for a while, so not checking regularly for a couple weeks, so I spent a couple hours trying to catch up, prolly 12...
I've been away for a while, so not checking regularly for a couple weeks, so I spent a couple hours trying to catch up, prolly 12 or so pages
the content and tone of comments has changed drastically in the last year. I can only assume with increased users and engagement, which has brought along with it, a much more negative and judgy tone. I was drawn to this comment section for the rumours and innovation (and spy shots, and great info from the likes or TEAMROBOT, Cascade, Dave, and many others) but I find myself turned off by the overly opinionated, overly critical, divisive nature of the content recently.
We can all agree that bikes, in almost all forms are friggin rad. That rumours, and spy shots of some beautifully CNC'd bit of bike jewellery is friggin rad. That incredibly detailed info about suspension performance, tech bits, and tire compounds is friggin rad.
But can we agree that opinionated views on Sram or Shimano brakes (which is best and why) based on nothing but personal preference is out of place here? That divisive comments about e-bikes that dont serve anyones interest are out of place (not an e-biker, but they look like a cool toy). That snakry comments about suspension setup can be had beneath your breath, at your keyboard. Can we agree that "analog" is redundant, when we can simply refer to e-bikes, as e-bikes.
If any of my comments were shitty to anyone, my bad man, I'll do better.
Like if our comment isnt a rumour, innovation, helpful info, or to hype up cool shit, we simply keep it to ourselves......maybe I just need a break....
Agreed. It feels like pinkbike vibes have entered the chat recently. There was once a time when I read pinkbike to be entertained by bufoons and would read vital for core-guy insider info and stoke. Seems like some of the pink-dweeb arguing bled into the vital forums.
Hm. I just thought of something. Why do we put the batteries for transmission and droppers on the unit itself? Why not have a wire that runs near and internal storage opening where its just 1 (maybe larger) battery for the both units. Honestly looking back at Shimanos Di2, does not seem to terrible. Although I know very little about it besides to was not wireless, just electric.
I just imagined Scott taking its shocks and moving them out of the frame (that seemed weird to type), then where the shock is, is now internal storage and this big battery pack for everything. I just dont understand why we need wireless when its more non centralized weight. But I dont know.
Also I agree onawalk. I will say its definitely fun to roast some companies.
I've been away for a while, so not checking regularly for a couple weeks, so I spent a couple hours trying to catch up, prolly 12...
I've been away for a while, so not checking regularly for a couple weeks, so I spent a couple hours trying to catch up, prolly 12 or so pages
the content and tone of comments has changed drastically in the last year. I can only assume with increased users and engagement, which has brought along with it, a much more negative and judgy tone. I was drawn to this comment section for the rumours and innovation (and spy shots, and great info from the likes or TEAMROBOT, Cascade, Dave, and many others) but I find myself turned off by the overly opinionated, overly critical, divisive nature of the content recently.
We can all agree that bikes, in almost all forms are friggin rad. That rumours, and spy shots of some beautifully CNC'd bit of bike jewellery is friggin rad. That incredibly detailed info about suspension performance, tech bits, and tire compounds is friggin rad.
But can we agree that opinionated views on Sram or Shimano brakes (which is best and why) based on nothing but personal preference is out of place here? That divisive comments about e-bikes that dont serve anyones interest are out of place (not an e-biker, but they look like a cool toy). That snakry comments about suspension setup can be had beneath your breath, at your keyboard. Can we agree that "analog" is redundant, when we can simply refer to e-bikes, as e-bikes.
If any of my comments were shitty to anyone, my bad man, I'll do better.
Like if our comment isnt a rumour, innovation, helpful info, or to hype up cool shit, we simply keep it to ourselves......maybe I just need a break....
I've been away for a while, so not checking regularly for a couple weeks, so I spent a couple hours trying to catch up, prolly 12...
I've been away for a while, so not checking regularly for a couple weeks, so I spent a couple hours trying to catch up, prolly 12 or so pages
the content and tone of comments has changed drastically in the last year. I can only assume with increased users and engagement, which has brought along with it, a much more negative and judgy tone. I was drawn to this comment section for the rumours and innovation (and spy shots, and great info from the likes or TEAMROBOT, Cascade, Dave, and many others) but I find myself turned off by the overly opinionated, overly critical, divisive nature of the content recently.
We can all agree that bikes, in almost all forms are friggin rad. That rumours, and spy shots of some beautifully CNC'd bit of bike jewellery is friggin rad. That incredibly detailed info about suspension performance, tech bits, and tire compounds is friggin rad.
But can we agree that opinionated views on Sram or Shimano brakes (which is best and why) based on nothing but personal preference is out of place here? That divisive comments about e-bikes that dont serve anyones interest are out of place (not an e-biker, but they look like a cool toy). That snakry comments about suspension setup can be had beneath your breath, at your keyboard. Can we agree that "analog" is redundant, when we can simply refer to e-bikes, as e-bikes.
If any of my comments were shitty to anyone, my bad man, I'll do better.
Like if our comment isnt a rumour, innovation, helpful info, or to hype up cool shit, we simply keep it to ourselves......maybe I just need a break....
Agree with all your points, but disappointed that you left electronic shifting off the list of hot topics. Sounds like we need to fight about that...
Agree with all your points, but disappointed that you left electronic shifting off the list of hot topics. Sounds like we need to fight about that some more...
This is exactly what we have been doing. Since March of 2020.
An Ebike isn’t just about making the climb easier. At least that’s what I’ve learned about them. It’s more about time management. I don’t have to plan my whole day around a ride on my favorite trail.
You can also get to trails that you don’t ride as much because they are easier to access. It’s also interesting to run them in a different direction that wouldn’t be feasible on your regular bike. Did I mention climbing technical trails has a whole new spin to it?
I still prefer riding my analog bike to be fair. Ebikes are just another tool in the quiver to make riding fun.
E-bike parks already exist. Well, at least one. We have a small bike park in Korea that is exclusive to E's for some reason. You can turn laps in about 10 minutes. Another bike park set up an open-side shed with outlets for bike/battery charging in the parking lot. People leave their battery and charger there for a few hours as they turn laps. No lockers or anything, just all sitting out in the open in the shed.
And I thought I was Weight Weenie! That is some contradictory shit right there. You want a bike absolutely as light as possible to optimize, the descents?! LOL
All this trouble and a custom one-off e-bike not useful for most riders that want to do more than just the same 600' lap for the rest of their lives, to save 2#s. Hopefully you are not a project manager or that brand is going bust!
A Relay frame weighs about 6#s. The battery weighs 5#s and does about 2-3.5K' in turbo mode and you can swap the battery quickly if need be. There is your solution, and you'll be able to double your descents.
Kenevo, not Enduro, if Transmission was the point of sharing.
Yes, Yoshimura.
I browse a lot of DIY ebike forums, and I'm still surpirsed there isn't a good bolt-on ebike kit that doesn't make your bike look like a high school engineering project. We don't need 1000 watt motors and batteries the size of a backpack, like someone said before an ultra compact and lightweight solution thats putting out even less power than the lightweight SL ebikes. A motor that tops out at 200 watts so you can get away with a 280 wh battery. Some of people's DIY builds get rather sleek looking, and when you make your own battery bank and don't have to worry about liability, they can integrate well into the bike. Imagine if you just strapped your battery to the downtube, adding minimal bulk, and swapped your crankset to get an "Eco mode only" ebike that adds maybe 6 pounds to the experience.
I know there are a few "solutions" out there like this, but none of them seem viable yet. Theres the brake mounted one, a Hammershcmit chainring-style one, and CYC, which is probably the only one I would trust at this point.
The amount of faff…
Brilliant. Can I buy you out of your patent(s).
Or do you want to partner to bring this to market
In all seriousness this would put me at 44 lbs. I’m poor so I can’t afford an ebike, but most riders would rather have a nice ebike that’s well integrated that weighs the same, has dealer supported service and warranty and an app that tracks your jumps
I am currently evaluating approaches from Milwaukee and Ryobi
I just got an ebike and it's blowing my mind. I don't think I was ever an ass about it, but I was certainly a bit judgy before. Now, I get it. For me, it just eliminates the slow, sloggy parts of the ride – it's always cruisy and fun. Plus, the penalty for using reliable, confidence-inspiring parts – beefy tires, big brakes, hefty suspension – is essentially eliminated.
Isn't going to replace analog riding for me, it's gonna get me on a bike more, because I don't have to search for motivation when I'm tired, time pressed, or it's 90+ out. It's just FUN.
Absolutely kills tires though. 😆
The other rumor is that there wont be a bike in speshs line up between the stumpy and the demo - although i have zero evidence to back up this claim
Source - a British mtb journalist
Same boat as UC and Noah, I was pretty skeptical and I don't shy away from big pedal days but man a big travel e-bike has been nothing but good times for me. I still ride all my bikes, I'm still 4+ W/kg, I haven't gotten fat, and I can pack a whole lot of fun into a small amount of time thanks to my e-bike.
Can't wait for that Pinion MGU - who's got tech rumors of when it'll be available in the US?
Original release date was "sometime 2025" which means 2026 at the soonest.
I rode my ebike a lot the first year, then got kinda bored. Most people I used to ride all mountain with on normal bikes are now riding more enduro on ebikes and it's not my thing. I don't care much about going fast either up or down, I care more about being in movement through the landscape.
I wanted an ebike to make the ride longer (and less painful), not faster and steeper.
I mostly ride my rigid fatbike now.
But the whole group I used to ride with has changed, kinda exploded with covid.
Well I think we're going OT.
Sounds like skypark minus the battery lockers already
But there already is, the Status 2 (assuming we are going by travel).
I can't see them dropping the Enduro completely. Maybe it won't get refreshed this year but I'm sure it will in 2025.
Can confirm
I've been away for a while, so not checking regularly for a couple weeks, so I spent a couple hours trying to catch up, prolly 12 or so pages
the content and tone of comments has changed drastically in the last year. I can only assume with increased users and engagement, which has brought along with it, a much more negative and judgy tone. I was drawn to this comment section for the rumours and innovation (and spy shots, and great info from the likes or TEAMROBOT, Cascade, Dave, and many others) but I find myself turned off by the overly opinionated, overly critical, divisive nature of the content recently.
We can all agree that bikes, in almost all forms are friggin rad. That rumours, and spy shots of some beautifully CNC'd bit of bike jewellery is friggin rad. That incredibly detailed info about suspension performance, tech bits, and tire compounds is friggin rad.
But can we agree that opinionated views on Sram or Shimano brakes (which is best and why) based on nothing but personal preference is out of place here? That divisive comments about e-bikes that dont serve anyones interest are out of place (not an e-biker, but they look like a cool toy). That snakry comments about suspension setup can be had beneath your breath, at your keyboard. Can we agree that "analog" is redundant, when we can simply refer to e-bikes, as e-bikes.
If any of my comments were shitty to anyone, my bad man, I'll do better.
Like if our comment isnt a rumour, innovation, helpful info, or to hype up cool shit, we simply keep it to ourselves......maybe I just need a break....
Agree with all your points, but disappointed that you left electronic shifting off the list of hot topics. Sounds like we need to fight about that some more...
The vitalmtb forum getting ready to argue about electronic shifting, me included
I'd like to bring your attention to the Red site where 2 guys are having a 70+ post argument over the specification (or lack of therein) of mineral oil........we have a long way to go.
You make some good points but this is also very get off my lawn.
Agreed. It feels like pinkbike vibes have entered the chat recently. There was once a time when I read pinkbike to be entertained by bufoons and would read vital for core-guy insider info and stoke. Seems like some of the pink-dweeb arguing bled into the vital forums.
Hm. I just thought of something. Why do we put the batteries for transmission and droppers on the unit itself? Why not have a wire that runs near and internal storage opening where its just 1 (maybe larger) battery for the both units. Honestly looking back at Shimanos Di2, does not seem to terrible. Although I know very little about it besides to was not wireless, just electric.
I just imagined Scott taking its shocks and moving them out of the frame (that seemed weird to type), then where the shock is, is now internal storage and this big battery pack for everything. I just dont understand why we need wireless when its more non centralized weight. But I dont know.
Also I agree onawalk. I will say its definitely fun to roast some companies.
Not meant as rant, have a kick ass day!
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