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1/15/2024 7:51pm

Damn, looks pretty good.

Taking a bite out of the Fox Transfer with the no-shock-pump-needed style cartridge.

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1/15/2024 8:58pm

Oneup has to be one of the only brands in MTB who actually give riders what they want Including the price point.
Decent quality, well thought out without complication products

The only thing extra thing i want from a dropper is a decent way to access the seat rail clamp bolts.

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Outlawed
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1/15/2024 9:40pm Edited Date/Time 1/15/2024 9:45pm

Looks like a perfect revision (I see the V2.1 rebuild kit gets the revised midcap and SKF seal). My V2 post has been an absolute dud, like clockwork, every 25-30 rides it needs a rebuild kit thrown at it. Constantly pushes grease past the seal, excessive rotational play and the midcap constantly works its self loose (which you cannot tighten down much or it causes the post to return slower). See if the V2.1 rebuild kit makes any marginal improvement before I get rid of it.

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boozed
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1/15/2024 11:04pm
Outlawed wrote:
Looks like a perfect revision (I see the V2.1 rebuild kit gets the revised midcap and SKF seal). My V2 post has been an absolute dud...

Looks like a perfect revision (I see the V2.1 rebuild kit gets the revised midcap and SKF seal). My V2 post has been an absolute dud, like clockwork, every 25-30 rides it needs a rebuild kit thrown at it. Constantly pushes grease past the seal, excessive rotational play and the midcap constantly works its self loose (which you cannot tighten down much or it causes the post to return slower). See if the V2.1 rebuild kit makes any marginal improvement before I get rid of it.

Wow, it's crazy how much variation there is in these cheap posts.  What's the deal?

Everyone loves PNW right?  I returned two brand new PNW Loam posts for having hilariously bad rotational play out of the box before I gave up on that idea and bought a OneUp which, aside from needing to be cleaned and greased a bit too frequently, has been great.

If only servicing a Fox Transfer didn't cost almost as much as a cheap post...

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1/15/2024 11:10pm
Outlawed wrote:
Looks like a perfect revision (I see the V2.1 rebuild kit gets the revised midcap and SKF seal). My V2 post has been an absolute dud...

Looks like a perfect revision (I see the V2.1 rebuild kit gets the revised midcap and SKF seal). My V2 post has been an absolute dud, like clockwork, every 25-30 rides it needs a rebuild kit thrown at it. Constantly pushes grease past the seal, excessive rotational play and the midcap constantly works its self loose (which you cannot tighten down much or it causes the post to return slower). See if the V2.1 rebuild kit makes any marginal improvement before I get rid of it.

my v2 is 3 years old now, never touched it and i'm about to service it now for the first time, still looks and works great

 

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1/15/2024 11:14pm
Outlawed wrote:
Looks like a perfect revision (I see the V2.1 rebuild kit gets the revised midcap and SKF seal). My V2 post has been an absolute dud...

Looks like a perfect revision (I see the V2.1 rebuild kit gets the revised midcap and SKF seal). My V2 post has been an absolute dud, like clockwork, every 25-30 rides it needs a rebuild kit thrown at it. Constantly pushes grease past the seal, excessive rotational play and the midcap constantly works its self loose (which you cannot tighten down much or it causes the post to return slower). See if the V2.1 rebuild kit makes any marginal improvement before I get rid of it.

I've owned Far to many oneup posts and other than their notable rattle, ive never had an issue, they get ridden in mud/ice/dust

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PJ205
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1/16/2024 2:16am

I got a chance to check out the new V3 dropper the last couple of weeks so I took it upon myself to tear it down and compare the V2 and V3 internals. V3 is very noticeably lighter, the horizontal rattle when the seat is dropped is definitely improved, the seals and bushings are beefed up considerably, and it's ridiculously easy to work. Waiting to 240mm stock to be available to me so I can toss it on my enduro bike and move my 210mm V2 over to my trail bike.

NicoZesty98, the cartridge is sealed and doesn't look like it can be serviced. Bright side is that it is 100% recyclable.

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1/16/2024 2:43am Edited Date/Time 1/16/2024 2:44am
Oneup has to be one of the only brands in MTB who actually give riders what they want Including the price point. Decent quality, well thought...

Oneup has to be one of the only brands in MTB who actually give riders what they want Including the price point.
Decent quality, well thought out without complication products

The only thing extra thing i want from a dropper is a decent way to access the seat rail clamp bolts.

Holy shit it's £292 in the UK (not inc remote)! That is not cheap. For another £10 I can get a Bikeyoke Revive 2.0 before I've even looked properly.

I've got a V2 and am so tired of cleaning it out after every other winter ride, so this V3 had better be exceptional to convince me to spend that much money.

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1/16/2024 5:14am
Oneup has to be one of the only brands in MTB who actually give riders what they want Including the price point. Decent quality, well thought...

Oneup has to be one of the only brands in MTB who actually give riders what they want Including the price point.
Decent quality, well thought out without complication products

The only thing extra thing i want from a dropper is a decent way to access the seat rail clamp bolts.

TimBud wrote:
Holy shit it's £292 in the UK (not inc remote)! That is not cheap. For another £10 I can get a Bikeyoke Revive 2.0 before I've...

Holy shit it's £292 in the UK (not inc remote)! That is not cheap. For another £10 I can get a Bikeyoke Revive 2.0 before I've even looked properly.

I've got a V2 and am so tired of cleaning it out after every other winter ride, so this V3 had better be exceptional to convince me to spend that much money.

If t is, would you still buy it over the Revive and if so, why? (Sorry for the derail, genuinely curious. Feel free to DM if you'd rather).

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1/16/2024 5:19am
PJ205 wrote:
I got a chance to check out the new V3 dropper the last couple of weeks so I took it upon myself to tear it down...

I got a chance to check out the new V3 dropper the last couple of weeks so I took it upon myself to tear it down and compare the V2 and V3 internals. V3 is very noticeably lighter, the horizontal rattle when the seat is dropped is definitely improved, the seals and bushings are beefed up considerably, and it's ridiculously easy to work. Waiting to 240mm stock to be available to me so I can toss it on my enduro bike and move my 210mm V2 over to my trail bike.

NicoZesty98, the cartridge is sealed and doesn't look like it can be serviced. Bright side is that it is 100% recyclable.

Good info Preston, if that side to side rattle is gone I’m gonna have you grab me a 240 as well 🤘

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1/16/2024 5:32am
Oneup has to be one of the only brands in MTB who actually give riders what they want Including the price point. Decent quality, well thought...

Oneup has to be one of the only brands in MTB who actually give riders what they want Including the price point.
Decent quality, well thought out without complication products

The only thing extra thing i want from a dropper is a decent way to access the seat rail clamp bolts.

TimBud wrote:
Holy shit it's £292 in the UK (not inc remote)! That is not cheap. For another £10 I can get a Bikeyoke Revive 2.0 before I've...

Holy shit it's £292 in the UK (not inc remote)! That is not cheap. For another £10 I can get a Bikeyoke Revive 2.0 before I've even looked properly.

I've got a V2 and am so tired of cleaning it out after every other winter ride, so this V3 had better be exceptional to convince me to spend that much money.

dolface wrote:
If t is, would you still buy it over the Revive and if so, why? (Sorry for the derail, genuinely curious. Feel free to DM if...

If t is, would you still buy it over the Revive and if so, why? (Sorry for the derail, genuinely curious. Feel free to DM if you'd rather).

I went for the old OneUp half a year ago because of the 240 model. Otherwise the Revive looks like a very good post. Apparently easy to service as well. 

I'm still a bit partial to the hydraulic remote of the Reverb, since C1 servicing is less of an issue (revive style of bleeding it in situ), but if it's 200 mm at most it's out of the question. Once you go 240 you don't go back. 

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stoic_machine
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1/16/2024 6:54am Edited Date/Time 1/16/2024 6:55am

If you wait a year Trans-X will more than likely offer the same posts for a better price... 

Trans-X is to One-UP as SR-Suntour is to DVO.

^^ Did I use that phrase correctly? ^^  haha

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1/16/2024 7:00am
If you wait a year Trans-X will more than likely offer the same posts for a better price...  Trans-X is to One-UP as SR-Suntour is to...

If you wait a year Trans-X will more than likely offer the same posts for a better price... 

Trans-X is to One-UP as SR-Suntour is to DVO.

^^ Did I use that phrase correctly? ^^  haha

I have an OEM Trans-X that just works.  Nothing amazing. Nothing depressing.

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1/16/2024 7:03am
Outlawed wrote:
Looks like a perfect revision (I see the V2.1 rebuild kit gets the revised midcap and SKF seal). My V2 post has been an absolute dud...

Looks like a perfect revision (I see the V2.1 rebuild kit gets the revised midcap and SKF seal). My V2 post has been an absolute dud, like clockwork, every 25-30 rides it needs a rebuild kit thrown at it. Constantly pushes grease past the seal, excessive rotational play and the midcap constantly works its self loose (which you cannot tighten down much or it causes the post to return slower). See if the V2.1 rebuild kit makes any marginal improvement before I get rid of it.

boozed wrote:
Wow, it's crazy how much variation there is in these cheap posts.  What's the deal? Everyone loves PNW right?  I returned two brand new PNW Loam...

Wow, it's crazy how much variation there is in these cheap posts.  What's the deal?

Everyone loves PNW right?  I returned two brand new PNW Loam posts for having hilariously bad rotational play out of the box before I gave up on that idea and bought a OneUp which, aside from needing to be cleaned and greased a bit too frequently, has been great.

If only servicing a Fox Transfer didn't cost almost as much as a cheap post...

That's funny as they're literally out of the same factory (JD/Tranz-X) 

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HexonJuan
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1/16/2024 7:08am
Oneup has to be one of the only brands in MTB who actually give riders what they want Including the price point. Decent quality, well thought...

Oneup has to be one of the only brands in MTB who actually give riders what they want Including the price point.
Decent quality, well thought out without complication products

The only thing extra thing i want from a dropper is a decent way to access the seat rail clamp bolts.

TimBud wrote:
Holy shit it's £292 in the UK (not inc remote)! That is not cheap. For another £10 I can get a Bikeyoke Revive 2.0 before I've...

Holy shit it's £292 in the UK (not inc remote)! That is not cheap. For another £10 I can get a Bikeyoke Revive 2.0 before I've even looked properly.

I've got a V2 and am so tired of cleaning it out after every other winter ride, so this V3 had better be exceptional to convince me to spend that much money.

Not to derail the thread again, but the sucking in of grime, expelling of lube common in OneUp/TranzX posts is easily remedied. There's a breather port on the actuator that needs to be drilled to a bigger diameter. I did that on my rebadged TranzX posts and it solved those issues, in addition to making actuation quicker up and down. Peter Verdone had a blurp on his site about doing it on a OneUp, which inspired me to give it a go.  PV is a bit much most of the time, but he does come through with good info the rest.

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1/16/2024 7:29am
If you wait a year Trans-X will more than likely offer the same posts for a better price...  Trans-X is to One-UP as SR-Suntour is to...

If you wait a year Trans-X will more than likely offer the same posts for a better price... 

Trans-X is to One-UP as SR-Suntour is to DVO.

^^ Did I use that phrase correctly? ^^  haha

bizutch wrote:

I have an OEM Trans-X that just works.  Nothing amazing. Nothing depressing.

As far as I understand.... The deal between One-Up started way back when One-Up was looking into creating a dropper based on what they felt mattered most. They reached out to Trans-X and Trans-X agreed to help manufacturer the posts for them and there was a deal worked out where One-Up gets to release and use for a single year before trans-X can step in and make their branded one and sell for less.

This kinda reminds of the deal between Toyota and Subaru with the BRZ 

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1/16/2024 8:11am
Oneup has to be one of the only brands in MTB who actually give riders what they want Including the price point. Decent quality, well thought...

Oneup has to be one of the only brands in MTB who actually give riders what they want Including the price point.
Decent quality, well thought out without complication products

The only thing extra thing i want from a dropper is a decent way to access the seat rail clamp bolts.

I was hoping for I-beam

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amaranth
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1/16/2024 8:33am

Got a v2 on sale, V3 being $269 is getting close to the more boutique posts - wolftooth/bikeyoke etc. Also pnw loam is still at the $200 ish pricepoint, not sure the oneup v3 is $60 better than that

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1/16/2024 8:48am

It will be interesting to see how being owned by Pon affects One Up.

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1/16/2024 8:58am
HexonJuan wrote:
Not to derail the thread again, but the sucking in of grime, expelling of lube common in OneUp/TranzX posts is easily remedied. There's a breather port...

Not to derail the thread again, but the sucking in of grime, expelling of lube common in OneUp/TranzX posts is easily remedied. There's a breather port on the actuator that needs to be drilled to a bigger diameter. I did that on my rebadged TranzX posts and it solved those issues, in addition to making actuation quicker up and down. Peter Verdone had a blurp on his site about doing it on a OneUp, which inspired me to give it a go.  PV is a bit much most of the time, but he does come through with good info the rest.

Are you referring to the post on the oneup 210 where extra holes are drilled in the actuator? 

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ryanb
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1/16/2024 10:13am
If you wait a year Trans-X will more than likely offer the same posts for a better price...  Trans-X is to One-UP as SR-Suntour is to...

If you wait a year Trans-X will more than likely offer the same posts for a better price... 

Trans-X is to One-UP as SR-Suntour is to DVO.

^^ Did I use that phrase correctly? ^^  haha

bizutch wrote:

I have an OEM Trans-X that just works.  Nothing amazing. Nothing depressing.

As far as I understand.... The deal between One-Up started way back when One-Up was looking into creating a dropper based on what they felt mattered...

As far as I understand.... The deal between One-Up started way back when One-Up was looking into creating a dropper based on what they felt mattered most. They reached out to Trans-X and Trans-X agreed to help manufacturer the posts for them and there was a deal worked out where One-Up gets to release and use for a single year before trans-X can step in and make their branded one and sell for less.

This kinda reminds of the deal between Toyota and Subaru with the BRZ 

Which trans-x is a one up copy? I know they OEM for one up but their posts are all pretty obviously different then the one up v2 if you look at the actuator, head travels offered and overall length.

My 9 year old daughter uses a 90mm one up v2 at low pressure, i'll be curious to see if the new sealed cartridge one can be made to actuate as easily.

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1/16/2024 1:35pm
If anyone is struggling to set up a 38,  you should try Seb Stott's recommendation. It made a night and day difference for me. "One criticism...

If anyone is struggling to set up a 38,  you should try Seb Stott's recommendation. It made a night and day difference for me.

"One criticism that's often levelled at the Fox 38 is that it sits too low in its travel. You can see from the above force curves that it gives away the first 10 mm of travel without much of a fight, and it sags readily into the travel... To those who find the 38 (or any fork) sits too low in the travel, I'd recommend trying a higher bar height, removing a volume spacer and increasing spring pressure relative to the setup chart"

Bar height is an underrated fork setup step if hunting for midstroke. I also found a frame with higher anti rise also helps the ride height/midstroke equation. 

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1/16/2024 5:59pm
Do pinions rattle at all? I think rattle on a bike is worse than garbage breaks. I would (begrudgingly) accept headset routing if it absolutely guaranteed...

Do pinions rattle at all?

I think rattle on a bike is worse than garbage breaks. I would (begrudgingly) accept headset routing if it absolutely guaranteed complete silence from all other components ….but I do like single speeds.   So maybe I’m an outlier 

My pinion equipped bikes did not rattle. I am extremely picky about noise as well

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1/16/2024 8:18pm

can someone tell me which tires RR has on in these pics? it‘s nothing from maxxis or conti as far as i can tell, maybe some protos…

 

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IMG 9938.png?VersionId=Rflnr9lYPL1AHCWqvYeFn0eWg9zp

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1/16/2024 8:30pm
krabo83 wrote:
can someone tell me which tires RR has on in these pics? it‘s nothing from maxxis or conti as far as i can tell, maybe some...

can someone tell me which tires RR has on in these pics? it‘s nothing from maxxis or conti as far as i can tell, maybe some protos…

 

IMG 9937.jpeg?VersionId=l6wTM8VWWRrmUbK0z

IMG 9938.png?VersionId=Rflnr9lYPL1AHCWqvYeFn0eWg9zp

Kinda looks like a magic mary 

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1/16/2024 8:57pm
krabo83 wrote:
can someone tell me which tires RR has on in these pics? it‘s nothing from maxxis or conti as far as i can tell, maybe some...

can someone tell me which tires RR has on in these pics? it‘s nothing from maxxis or conti as far as i can tell, maybe some protos…

 

IMG 9937.jpeg?VersionId=l6wTM8VWWRrmUbK0z

IMG 9938.png?VersionId=Rflnr9lYPL1AHCWqvYeFn0eWg9zp

Maybe a Maxxis prototype? Neko mentioned in a recent interview that he was helping develop a tire for them but I think it’s different than those - IMG 1592.png?VersionId=vb0cTiU.iZqT CrEd

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1/16/2024 9:30pm
krabo83 wrote:
can someone tell me which tires RR has on in these pics? it‘s nothing from maxxis or conti as far as i can tell, maybe some...

can someone tell me which tires RR has on in these pics? it‘s nothing from maxxis or conti as far as i can tell, maybe some protos…

 

IMG 9937.jpeg?VersionId=l6wTM8VWWRrmUbK0z

IMG 9938.png?VersionId=Rflnr9lYPL1AHCWqvYeFn0eWg9zp

Maybe a Maxxis prototype? Neko mentioned in a recent interview that he was helping develop a tire for them but I think it’s different than those...

Maybe a Maxxis prototype? Neko mentioned in a recent interview that he was helping develop a tire for them but I think it’s different than those - IMG 1592.png?VersionId=vb0cTiU.iZqT CrEd

MAXXIS High Roller II  ????

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1/16/2024 10:17pm Edited Date/Time 1/16/2024 10:17pm
Maybe a Maxxis prototype? Neko mentioned in a recent interview that he was helping develop a tire for them but I think it’s different than those...

Maybe a Maxxis prototype? Neko mentioned in a recent interview that he was helping develop a tire for them but I think it’s different than those - IMG 1592.png?VersionId=vb0cTiU.iZqT CrEd

that‘s a DHR2 in my eyes.

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