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danposs86 wrote:
Athertons drop/dropped by GoPro: https://www.instagram.com/p/CWtVRs3gbCT/
If ”dropped” translates into receiving money from another company, after a contract has ended, latest team rumour is that I'm open to joining Team Dropped as of right now, accepting veteran's minimum salary! :D

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11/26/2021 8:49am
danposs86 wrote:
Athertons drop/dropped by GoPro: https://www.instagram.com/p/CWtVRs3gbCT/
Maxipedia wrote:
If ”dropped” translates into receiving money from another company, after a contract has ended, latest team rumour is that I'm open to joining Team Dropped as...
If ”dropped” translates into receiving money from another company, after a contract has ended, latest team rumour is that I'm open to joining Team Dropped as of right now, accepting veteran's minimum salary! :D

Mx
A lot of people have just signed up with Insta360. Just seen loads of videos pop up on YouTube one after another. Matt Jones and Bernard Kerr being the one's I remember
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11/26/2021 10:10am
brash wrote:
So if Luca is on Canyon hypothetically, who loses this game of Musical Chairs? Surely not a 4 man megateam!? Troy (would bet my left nut...
So if Luca is on Canyon hypothetically, who loses this game of Musical Chairs? Surely not a 4 man megateam!?

Troy (would bet my left nut he's staying)
Mark (probably bet my right nut....)
Kye? Young fella won Jr Worlds and is getting faster all the time...

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There will be another Canyon team 😉
Ive heard this too. Second Canyon team with the "other" suspension and components brand
well, there are already 2 Canyon-Teams, The Factory Racing and the FMD Team. So would Luca join FMD or is there gonna be a third team?
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11/26/2021 10:46am
Connor to Forbidden?
He seemed to race almost more enduro than downhill this year. + there seems to be more and more forbidden riders around bromont, where his team mechanic lives? Just a wild guess
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11/26/2021 11:33am
The big red S adding a lead female on the enduro side of things. Not sure if this was covered earlier in the thread.
Could Miranda Miller be headed back that way?
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11/26/2021 1:29pm Edited Date/Time 11/26/2021 1:31pm
Connor to Forbidden? He seemed to race almost more enduro than downhill this year. + there seems to be more and more forbidden riders around bromont...
Connor to Forbidden?
He seemed to race almost more enduro than downhill this year. + there seems to be more and more forbidden riders around bromont, where his team mechanic lives? Just a wild guess
It might also be related to them being available in our area and not much else.
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11/26/2021 6:19pm
There will be another Canyon team 😉
Karabuka wrote:
If it goes that way, does this mean there will be just Commencal vs Canyon in 2025?
Primoz wrote:
And Minnaar on a Santa Cruz giving them hell.
And Specialized looks down from the top of its podium, “Silly rabbits, mega teams are for kids.”
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11/26/2021 8:15pm
Karabuka wrote:
If it goes that way, does this mean there will be just Commencal vs Canyon in 2025?
Primoz wrote:
And Minnaar on a Santa Cruz giving them hell.
mwolpin wrote:
And Specialized looks down from the top of its podium, “Silly rabbits, mega teams are for kids.”
*commencal
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11/26/2021 8:28pm
There will be another Canyon team 😉
Karabuka wrote:
If it goes that way, does this mean there will be just Commencal vs Canyon in 2025?
Primoz wrote:
And Minnaar on a Santa Cruz giving them hell.
There's also this french guy who Won the overall World Cup season in pretty dramatic fashion this year, I forget his name though....
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11/27/2021 8:10am
There will be another Canyon team 😉
Ive heard this too. Second Canyon team with the "other" suspension and components brand
krabo83 wrote:
well, there are already 2 Canyon-Teams, The Factory Racing and the FMD Team. So would Luca join FMD or is there gonna be a third team?
A 3rd team
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11/27/2021 12:43pm
Ive heard this too. Second Canyon team with the "other" suspension and components brand
krabo83 wrote:
well, there are already 2 Canyon-Teams, The Factory Racing and the FMD Team. So would Luca join FMD or is there gonna be a third team?
A 3rd team
FMD is under the banner of the Factory Team along with Troy and Mark aka the CLLVTV or whatever
11/27/2021 12:48pm
The big red S adding a lead female on the enduro side of things. Not sure if this was covered earlier in the thread.
Edthorne wrote:
Could Miranda Miller be headed back that way?
Don't think so. It seems that Melanie Pugin would be due for a payday after winning the overall last year. Would be a strong compliment to Kevin Miquel on the mens side.
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11/27/2021 3:31pm
Martha Gill has some Instagram stories about female riders and pay. "Offers" that include no salary at all.
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1. Josh Bryceland
Fuckin' 'ell I'd be bummed if he just fades away from the bike industry, especially because Cannondale and SC are owned by the same parent company now? Watching him in 2014 was insane: way up on splits at MSA and World Champs when it looked like he wasn't trying. Not to mention his other accolades and projects: riding Vans slip-ons to an EWS podium during "retirement", his Slice of British Pie segments, 50:01, etc... Obviously, he should do what he wants, and I hope he's happy, but it'd be cool for him to be around the industry.

2. Connor Fearon and Kona
Are they really gonna drop Connor after he's stuck with them for so long over the years? I'm pretty sure he could've switched teams a few years ago but kept loyal to Kona (from what I've gathered). It's hard for me not to feel disappointed with Kona in general: their original Process line was ahead of its time, but now what do they have? They've lost a crop of local riders to Transition, and their line of bikes they last few years has been mediocre at best. Connor has some ridiculous speed and seems hungry for more... hope he finds a proper bike sponsor.
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11/28/2021 8:03am
Just a thought, Sam Pilgrim must be a sought-after rider for a big brand now.
What makes you say that? I don’t see him popping up much anywhere other than some crazy project he made.
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11/28/2021 9:56am
Just a thought, Sam Pilgrim must be a sought-after rider for a big brand now.
mwolpin wrote:
What makes you say that? I don’t see him popping up much anywhere other than some crazy project he made.

massive youtube following.
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11/28/2021 10:06am
Just a thought, Sam Pilgrim must be a sought-after rider for a big brand now.
mwolpin wrote:
What makes you say that? I don’t see him popping up much anywhere other than some crazy project he made.
sspomer wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/11/28/11656/s1200_Screen_Shot_2021_11_28_at_10.55.24_AM.jpg[/img] [b]massive[/b] youtube following.

massive youtube following.
I would say second or third biggest mtb Youtuber, after Seth and Gmbn
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11/28/2021 10:08am
Just a thought, Sam Pilgrim must be a sought-after rider for a big brand now.
mwolpin wrote:
What makes you say that? I don’t see him popping up much anywhere other than some crazy project he made.
Idk, 1.5 million subscribers on his youtube seems substantial. That's a lot of eyeballs for the brands that support him...
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11/28/2021 10:34am Edited Date/Time 11/28/2021 10:35am
Just a thought, Sam Pilgrim must be a sought-after rider for a big brand now.
mwolpin wrote:
What makes you say that? I don’t see him popping up much anywhere other than some crazy project he made.
sspomer wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/11/28/11656/s1200_Screen_Shot_2021_11_28_at_10.55.24_AM.jpg[/img] [b]massive[/b] youtube following.

massive youtube following.
Fair enough. But, since when did YouTube numbers qualify riders for big brand sponsorships? It’s about their marketability. Fabio Wibmer (6.8m) and Danny McCaskill (486k) are two polar opposites, but have marketability - part of which is due to their Red Bull sponsorships. Regardless, they show what’s possible on their respective brands’ bikes.

Looking at other riders on big teams, I’m sure very few have numbers near Sam or others.

Sam is very talented, no doubt. Just saying social numbers does not qualify someone for a “big brand” ride.

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11/28/2021 3:39pm
mwolpin wrote:
What makes you say that? I don’t see him popping up much anywhere other than some crazy project he made.
sspomer wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/11/28/11656/s1200_Screen_Shot_2021_11_28_at_10.55.24_AM.jpg[/img] [b]massive[/b] youtube following.

massive youtube following.
mwolpin wrote:
Fair enough. But, since when did YouTube numbers qualify riders for big brand sponsorships? It’s about their marketability. Fabio Wibmer (6.8m) and Danny McCaskill (486k) are...
Fair enough. But, since when did YouTube numbers qualify riders for big brand sponsorships? It’s about their marketability. Fabio Wibmer (6.8m) and Danny McCaskill (486k) are two polar opposites, but have marketability - part of which is due to their Red Bull sponsorships. Regardless, they show what’s possible on their respective brands’ bikes.

Looking at other riders on big teams, I’m sure very few have numbers near Sam or others.

Sam is very talented, no doubt. Just saying social numbers does not qualify someone for a “big brand” ride.

Unless they have dropped him now, Haibike paid him a fair wedge to go over and help market their e-bikes as a proper e-MTB brand.
At the time he signed there was more than a few comments made questioning why he would make the move to what was seen as a low end breand in the MTB world and I seem to remember that the general answer was 'cash'
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11/28/2021 5:36pm
mwolpin wrote:
What makes you say that? I don’t see him popping up much anywhere other than some crazy project he made.
sspomer wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/11/28/11656/s1200_Screen_Shot_2021_11_28_at_10.55.24_AM.jpg[/img] [b]massive[/b] youtube following.

massive youtube following.
mwolpin wrote:
Fair enough. But, since when did YouTube numbers qualify riders for big brand sponsorships? It’s about their marketability. Fabio Wibmer (6.8m) and Danny McCaskill (486k) are...
Fair enough. But, since when did YouTube numbers qualify riders for big brand sponsorships? It’s about their marketability. Fabio Wibmer (6.8m) and Danny McCaskill (486k) are two polar opposites, but have marketability - part of which is due to their Red Bull sponsorships. Regardless, they show what’s possible on their respective brands’ bikes.

Looking at other riders on big teams, I’m sure very few have numbers near Sam or others.

Sam is very talented, no doubt. Just saying social numbers does not qualify someone for a “big brand” ride.

Sam also has skills that brands find highly marketable. He can go to any car park in then world with a couple ramps and perform for a crowd. Lenosky did something similiar for giant for a looooong time.

It’s a major reason why brands invest so much in trials guys and slopestyle vs downhill racing. It’s a great vehicle to get anyone exited about biking as opposed to try to draw market share from the people who are already invested.
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11/29/2021 7:33am
mwolpin wrote:
Fair enough. But, since when did YouTube numbers qualify riders for big brand sponsorships? It’s about their marketability. Fabio Wibmer (6.8m) and Danny McCaskill (486k) are...
Fair enough. But, since when did YouTube numbers qualify riders for big brand sponsorships? It’s about their marketability. Fabio Wibmer (6.8m) and Danny McCaskill (486k) are two polar opposites, but have marketability - part of which is due to their Red Bull sponsorships. Regardless, they show what’s possible on their respective brands’ bikes.

Looking at other riders on big teams, I’m sure very few have numbers near Sam or others.

Sam is very talented, no doubt. Just saying social numbers does not qualify someone for a “big brand” ride.

Remember, every company has different ideas on what's important to them when it comes to sponsorship/ marketing. For some, YouTube followers could be more important that contests or race results.. But, at the end of the day, it's all about trying to sell more bikes and even if only 1% of those 1.5m followers buy a bike, thats a big boost for most companies..
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11/29/2021 8:53am
Sam doesnt even own a bike park.....
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11/29/2021 10:04am
mwolpin wrote:
Fair enough. But, since when did YouTube numbers qualify riders for big brand sponsorships? It’s about their marketability. Fabio Wibmer (6.8m) and Danny McCaskill (486k) are...
Fair enough. But, since when did YouTube numbers qualify riders for big brand sponsorships? It’s about their marketability. Fabio Wibmer (6.8m) and Danny McCaskill (486k) are two polar opposites, but have marketability - part of which is due to their Red Bull sponsorships. Regardless, they show what’s possible on their respective brands’ bikes.

Looking at other riders on big teams, I’m sure very few have numbers near Sam or others.

Sam is very talented, no doubt. Just saying social numbers does not qualify someone for a “big brand” ride.

Remember, every company has different ideas on what's important to them when it comes to sponsorship/ marketing. For some, YouTube followers could be more important that...
Remember, every company has different ideas on what's important to them when it comes to sponsorship/ marketing. For some, YouTube followers could be more important that contests or race results.. But, at the end of the day, it's all about trying to sell more bikes and even if only 1% of those 1.5m followers buy a bike, thats a big boost for most companies..
Locally south west England the amount of hibikes is definitely increasing.
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11/30/2021 1:12am
mwolpin wrote:
What makes you say that? I don’t see him popping up much anywhere other than some crazy project he made.
sspomer wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/11/28/11656/s1200_Screen_Shot_2021_11_28_at_10.55.24_AM.jpg[/img] [b]massive[/b] youtube following.

massive youtube following.
mwolpin wrote:
Fair enough. But, since when did YouTube numbers qualify riders for big brand sponsorships? It’s about their marketability. Fabio Wibmer (6.8m) and Danny McCaskill (486k) are...
Fair enough. But, since when did YouTube numbers qualify riders for big brand sponsorships? It’s about their marketability. Fabio Wibmer (6.8m) and Danny McCaskill (486k) are two polar opposites, but have marketability - part of which is due to their Red Bull sponsorships. Regardless, they show what’s possible on their respective brands’ bikes.

Looking at other riders on big teams, I’m sure very few have numbers near Sam or others.

Sam is very talented, no doubt. Just saying social numbers does not qualify someone for a “big brand” ride.

Difference is the majority of Danny's videos are on Red Bull's YouTube channels (as producers of those projects). He started his channel in recent years only and isn't super active. Fabio and Sam produce/run their own channels and post regular content hence the larger following and viewership numbers which is what brands care about... and yeah a 1.58M sub YouTube channel is worth waaaaaaaay more than a quiet top 20 WCDH racer. Probably more than a top 10 guy.
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11/30/2021 5:28am
Laurie still posting mondraker stuff on IG and bio
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jsray wrote:
Laurie still posting mondraker stuff on IG and bio
Because he has a contract with them until December 31st.
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jimmypop wrote:
Martha Gill has some Instagram stories about female riders and pay. "Offers" that include no salary at all.
Speshy has done that before, like with Kate Courtney the year she won Worlds.
Usually only the rookies take that bait.
11/30/2021 9:50am
jimmypop wrote:
Martha Gill has some Instagram stories about female riders and pay. "Offers" that include no salary at all.
Speshy has done that before, like with Kate Courtney the year she won Worlds.
Usually only the rookies take that bait.
How do you know for sure? Contracts aren’t made available to the public. Working with athletes who are trying to get to the world stage, sometimes you have to take what you can get to advance your career.
Courtney also signed with Scott before she won worlds. She made it public that specialized tried to get her to stay, but the contract was already finalized.
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