I believe I heard new bars and stem were in the works. Frames, not so much. I've personally seen a few roll out this summer but seemingly only for industry affiliates/staff (and I guess whoever wanted the Edmonton Oilers custom frame). Wouldn't be surprised if they keep making them but only for VIPs, events, and show pieces.
I strongly suspect it was too hard to capture the OEM market while those same OEMs considered you a competitor. WAO started to get some traction with OEMs pre-arrival and it seems quite a bit of that has been pulled back. It's probably a good business move to focus on the money makers (note - I have not listened to the above posted podcast).
Sram goes to 13 on the gravel.If you had a XDR freehub, and a UDH frame, would this work on a MTB? - combine the new...
Sram goes to 13 on the gravel.
If you had a XDR freehub, and a UDH frame, would this work on a MTB? - combine the new mech and cassette with existing transmission chain and crank, and any AXS shifter of your choice?
From Dave Rome's review: "The new Red XPLR Full Mount derailleur is a dedicated gravel and related dropbar product, based on a 142 mm axle width, that narrower chainline, and not designed with mountain bike rear suspension in mind. "
Given stems cost more than $50 these days I think that would be an impossible target. Moto steering dampers start at around $350 and get up there...
Given stems cost more than $50 these days I think that would be an impossible target.
Moto steering dampers start at around $350 and get up there quite quick. Early MTB ones (Hopey is the only one I can think of) weren't approaching $650 but they were several hundred bucks 20 years ago. This seems to be quite a technical product with a lot of R&D so the price doesnt surprise me too much
Looks eerily similar to the Hopey's I used to run BITD on my Turners. Tim Hopey told me they were based on satellite rotational dampers and adapted to MTB's.
Given stems cost more than $50 these days I think that would be an impossible target. Moto steering dampers start at around $350 and get up there...
Given stems cost more than $50 these days I think that would be an impossible target.
Moto steering dampers start at around $350 and get up there quite quick. Early MTB ones (Hopey is the only one I can think of) weren't approaching $650 but they were several hundred bucks 20 years ago. This seems to be quite a technical product with a lot of R&D so the price doesnt surprise me too much
Well,here’s one thing I can already say that is very positive about Padmelon. I placed my order yesterday but was hemming and hawing about whether to order for my DH bike or enduro bike. I decided enduro and quickly ordered as I was late getting out the door. Apparently I had mistakenly added the mount for my DH bike instead of my enduro bike but had ordered the correct damper. The Padmelon team caught it, sent me an email and told me they would hold the order until I confirmed. This saved me a lot of time and money and was much appreciated. That kind of CS will go a long way and is awesome to see. I get $650 is a lot for this part and that it is unlikely to provide that level of value for a lot of people but they’re doing things the right way and I’m glad I am giving them a shot.
Sram goes to 13 on the gravel.If you had a XDR freehub, and a UDH frame, would this work on a MTB? - combine the new...
Sram goes to 13 on the gravel.
If you had a XDR freehub, and a UDH frame, would this work on a MTB? - combine the new mech and cassette with existing transmission chain and crank, and any AXS shifter of your choice?
From Dave Rome's review:"The new Red XPLR Full Mount derailleur is a dedicated gravel and related dropbar product, based on a 142 mm axle width, that...
From Dave Rome's review: "The new Red XPLR Full Mount derailleur is a dedicated gravel and related dropbar product, based on a 142 mm axle width, that narrower chainline, and not designed with mountain bike rear suspension in mind. "
"SRAM then requires gravel frames to have a minimum chainstay length of 415 mm, and that the chainline is 47.5 mm (provided by SRAM’s XPLR/Wide cranks). "
So if you had a 148 rear end, you would have everything 3mm further out. 50.5mm chainline cranks? or close to it?
Given stems cost more than $50 these days I think that would be an impossible target. Moto steering dampers start at around $350 and get up there...
Given stems cost more than $50 these days I think that would be an impossible target.
Moto steering dampers start at around $350 and get up there quite quick. Early MTB ones (Hopey is the only one I can think of) weren't approaching $650 but they were several hundred bucks 20 years ago. This seems to be quite a technical product with a lot of R&D so the price doesnt surprise me too much
Looks eerily similar to the Hopey's I used to run BITD on my Turners. Tim Hopey told me they were based on satellite rotational dampers and...
Looks eerily similar to the Hopey's I used to run BITD on my Turners. Tim Hopey told me they were based on satellite rotational dampers and adapted to MTB's.
Curious to see if it will be using 157 DH or 148 rear wheel spacing. Doesn't look like it has a cable port for a dropper...
Curious to see if it will be using 157 DH or 148 rear wheel spacing. Doesn't look like it has a cable port for a dropper so no DC enduro shenanigans.
Not to bring the wireless debate back up, but that's the one scenario I'd own a wireless dropper. That, and if the battery powered droppers would lower themselves.
I'm betting it's 148 with the plethora of DH bikes that have gone that direction recently: YT, GT, Transition, Forbidden, Frameworks, Spesh (ahead of the curve on this one lol?)
Not to bring the wireless debate back up, but that's the one scenario I'd own a wireless dropper. That, and if the battery powered droppers would...
Not to bring the wireless debate back up, but that's the one scenario I'd own a wireless dropper. That, and if the battery powered droppers would lower themselves.
I'm betting it's 148 with the plethora of DH bikes that have gone that direction recently: YT, GT, Transition, Forbidden, Frameworks, Spesh (ahead of the curve on this one lol?)
When I was at Canfield Bikes, we had a customer/shop owner who had like 4 or 5 different models personally. He had one dropper post he took between the different bikes. From hardtail to DH bike he took his AXS post between them all. While maybe an extra step to go ride, it allows for a dropper on any bike. I would like to see some additional features on them before I snag one. But it for sure is a good option on a DH bike that has to be pedaled between trails and doesnt have internal post routing.
When I was at Canfield Bikes, we had a customer/shop owner who had like 4 or 5 different models personally. He had one dropper post he...
When I was at Canfield Bikes, we had a customer/shop owner who had like 4 or 5 different models personally. He had one dropper post he took between the different bikes. From hardtail to DH bike he took his AXS post between them all. While maybe an extra step to go ride, it allows for a dropper on any bike. I would like to see some additional features on them before I snag one. But it for sure is a good option on a DH bike that has to be pedaled between trails and doesnt have internal post routing.
I know at least three people who do this. Briefly did so myself but in the end I just decided I don’t want to take that step before every ride and, even though it has the best action of any post I’ve used, it isn’t always the best choice.
When I was at Canfield Bikes, we had a customer/shop owner who had like 4 or 5 different models personally. He had one dropper post he...
When I was at Canfield Bikes, we had a customer/shop owner who had like 4 or 5 different models personally. He had one dropper post he took between the different bikes. From hardtail to DH bike he took his AXS post between them all. While maybe an extra step to go ride, it allows for a dropper on any bike. I would like to see some additional features on them before I snag one. But it for sure is a good option on a DH bike that has to be pedaled between trails and doesnt have internal post routing.
I know at least three people who do this. Briefly did so myself but in the end I just decided I don’t want to take that...
I know at least three people who do this. Briefly did so myself but in the end I just decided I don’t want to take that step before every ride and, even though it has the best action of any post I’ve used, it isn’t always the best choice.
+1 for a universal seat tube size. I can't see how one, maybe two couldn't work on all bikes. SRAM can push UDH on an industry, why not USP.
That's normal for XD and XDr. Hope does the same thing. been like that for a few years. XDr 12 speed uses 11-speed spacing between gears so it needed a bit more room - just shy of 2mm as it would happen. I am assuming 13 speed comes about by SRAM using a narrower-than-11-speed spacing on the XDr driver. Certainly, it's possible that if/when SRAM releases mountain 13, they need to go on XDr to get every little bit of room they can.
If their NEw rift zone & alpine trail are anything to go by... the new Quake will be awesome.
The new marin trail/enduro bikes are good... like really good. Got to demo the alpine trail and returned to the store & bought it. Reminds me alot of the merida Onesixty but more sensible
If their NEw rift zone & alpine trail are anything to go by... the new Quake will be awesome.The new marin trail/enduro bikes are good... like...
If their NEw rift zone & alpine trail are anything to go by... the new Quake will be awesome.
The new marin trail/enduro bikes are good... like really good. Got to demo the alpine trail and returned to the store & bought it. Reminds me alot of the merida Onesixty but more sensible
Good looking out, XR checks all the boxes - frame storage, tons of flip chips+headseat adjustment, mullet/29 compatible, but full build leaves some componentry lackluster... Calling around trying to find a frame!
Curious what y'all know about the new Specialized tires with tire dampening technology. Is that like a mud conditions tire for wet terrain? Or is it a dry tire, but it dampens the dirt so it becomes wet and tacky?
Curious what y'all know about the new Specialized tires with tire dampening technology. Is that like a mud conditions tire for wet terrain? Or is it...
Curious what y'all know about the new Specialized tires with tire dampening technology. Is that like a mud conditions tire for wet terrain? Or is it a dry tire, but it dampens the dirt so it becomes wet and tacky?
Curious what y'all know about the new Specialized tires with tire dampening technology. Is that like a mud conditions tire for wet terrain? Or is it...
Curious what y'all know about the new Specialized tires with tire dampening technology. Is that like a mud conditions tire for wet terrain? Or is it a dry tire, but it dampens the dirt so it becomes wet and tacky?
If it's the latter I'm gonna buy a ton of them, I'm ready for a change from blown-out moon-dust ruts...
https://www.bikeradar.com/news/shimano-patent-wireless-13-speed-di2-ele…
This is page 666 of the thread
I believe I heard new bars and stem were in the works. Frames, not so much. I've personally seen a few roll out this summer but seemingly only for industry affiliates/staff (and I guess whoever wanted the Edmonton Oilers custom frame). Wouldn't be surprised if they keep making them but only for VIPs, events, and show pieces.
I strongly suspect it was too hard to capture the OEM market while those same OEMs considered you a competitor. WAO started to get some traction with OEMs pre-arrival and it seems quite a bit of that has been pulled back. It's probably a good business move to focus on the money makers (note - I have not listened to the above posted podcast).
Did 5Dev get warned off by Spesh for the their direct-mount mod?
"UPDATE! We do not plan on releasing the "Mullet Mod" at this time. Thank you."
https://ride5dev.com/products/specialized-transmission-gravel-road
From Dave Rome's review:
"The new Red XPLR Full Mount derailleur is a dedicated gravel and related dropbar product, based on a 142 mm axle width, that narrower chainline, and not designed with mountain bike rear suspension in mind. "
https://escapecollective.com/sram-red-xplr-axs-e1-gravel-groupset-revie…
They got a cease and desist from Sram iirc. They used to be a sram dealer, plus I haven't seen the yeti udh mod in ages as well.
Looks eerily similar to the Hopey's I used to run BITD on my Turners. Tim Hopey told me they were based on satellite rotational dampers and adapted to MTB's.
Well,here’s one thing I can already say that is very positive about Padmelon. I placed my order yesterday but was hemming and hawing about whether to order for my DH bike or enduro bike. I decided enduro and quickly ordered as I was late getting out the door. Apparently I had mistakenly added the mount for my DH bike instead of my enduro bike but had ordered the correct damper. The Padmelon team caught it, sent me an email and told me they would hold the order until I confirmed. This saved me a lot of time and money and was much appreciated. That kind of CS will go a long way and is awesome to see. I get $650 is a lot for this part and that it is unlikely to provide that level of value for a lot of people but they’re doing things the right way and I’m glad I am giving them a shot.
I want to know what that video was supposed to be now. Jack Moir hasn't done a Metal Monday for a while...
Here's one that's on topic but only on this page. As you were.
"SRAM then requires gravel frames to have a minimum chainstay length of 415 mm, and that the chainline is 47.5 mm (provided by SRAM’s XPLR/Wide cranks). "
So if you had a 148 rear end, you would have everything 3mm further out. 50.5mm chainline cranks? or close to it?
Apparently phots can’t be uploaded from iPhones.. will update later.
Yeah they can- just click the insert image button
Here’s a pic of Josh Lowe on the new Decoy SN (for example) from my iPhone
They are, they purchased company from Tim Hopey.
seems like Marin's DH bike got an early release on mtb-news :
https://www.mtb-news.de/news/marin-quake-downhill-bike/
Build is 5200€ / 2099€ for a frame
Curious to see if it will be using 157 DH or 148 rear wheel spacing. Doesn't look like it has a cable port for a dropper so no DC enduro shenanigans.
Not to bring the wireless debate back up, but that's the one scenario I'd own a wireless dropper. That, and if the battery powered droppers would lower themselves.
I'm betting it's 148 with the plethora of DH bikes that have gone that direction recently: YT, GT, Transition, Forbidden, Frameworks, Spesh (ahead of the curve on this one lol?)
When I was at Canfield Bikes, we had a customer/shop owner who had like 4 or 5 different models personally. He had one dropper post he took between the different bikes. From hardtail to DH bike he took his AXS post between them all. While maybe an extra step to go ride, it allows for a dropper on any bike. I would like to see some additional features on them before I snag one. But it for sure is a good option on a DH bike that has to be pedaled between trails and doesnt have internal post routing.
I know at least three people who do this. Briefly did so myself but in the end I just decided I don’t want to take that step before every ride and, even though it has the best action of any post I’ve used, it isn’t always the best choice.
+1 for a universal seat tube size. I can't see how one, maybe two couldn't work on all bikes. SRAM can push UDH on an industry, why not USP.
poll about a universal seatpost standard started here
https://www.vitalmtb.com/forums/hub/would-you-be-favor-universal-seatpo…
Fox Transfer Neo wireless should be dropping anyday now as it just popped up on a distributors website
Is that a running change or place holder for 13spd mnt cassette??
That's normal for XD and XDr. Hope does the same thing. been like that for a few years. XDr 12 speed uses 11-speed spacing between gears so it needed a bit more room - just shy of 2mm as it would happen. I am assuming 13 speed comes about by SRAM using a narrower-than-11-speed spacing on the XDr driver. Certainly, it's possible that if/when SRAM releases mountain 13, they need to go on XDr to get every little bit of room they can.
If their NEw rift zone & alpine trail are anything to go by... the new Quake will be awesome.
The new marin trail/enduro bikes are good... like really good.
Got to demo the alpine trail and returned to the store & bought it.
Reminds me alot of the merida Onesixty but more sensible
Thanks - must’ve been my signal. Picture added.
Good looking out, XR checks all the boxes - frame storage, tons of flip chips+headseat adjustment, mullet/29 compatible, but full build leaves some componentry lackluster... Calling around trying to find a frame!
Curious what y'all know about the new Specialized tires with tire dampening technology. Is that like a mud conditions tire for wet terrain? Or is it a dry tire, but it dampens the dirt so it becomes wet and tacky?
Sounds moist.
If it's the latter I'm gonna buy a ton of them, I'm ready for a change from blown-out moon-dust ruts...
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