MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation

Related:
9/26/2023 7:43am

What more can they upgrade it with? It’s already the lightest of the superenduro forks (not sure about the Intend models, but they are boutique), it works incredibly well (don’t mind the reviews where they find problems with the performance - those were examples of the first batches). The only way i can see them improve it is the way of Formula and MRP, with the Selva and the Bartlet - make it a lightweight double-crown fork with a 15mm thru-acle and 190mm travel. Smile In the same time, keep the single crown option! 

6
jonkranked
Posts
765
Joined
5/5/2016
Location
Norristown, PA US
Fantasy
747th
9/26/2023 7:47am
kcr138 wrote:

Hayes has Manitou Mezzer forks at 40% off on their website, and low stock/unavailable options. New/updated enduro fork coming from Manitou soon? 

given that they recently (last year or so) launched updated Mattoc and Mastodon models, I think it's pretty likely.

2
samdaman1
Posts
48
Joined
12/18/2016
Location
GB
9/26/2023 8:35am
What more can they upgrade it with? It’s already the lightest of the superenduro forks (not sure about the Intend models, but they are boutique), it...

What more can they upgrade it with? It’s already the lightest of the superenduro forks (not sure about the Intend models, but they are boutique), it works incredibly well (don’t mind the reviews where they find problems with the performance - those were examples of the first batches). The only way i can see them improve it is the way of Formula and MRP, with the Selva and the Bartlet - make it a lightweight double-crown fork with a 15mm thru-acle and 190mm travel. Smile In the same time, keep the single crown option! 

A coil option could be offered, and maybe also a more varied array of models for different price points so that its more in line with the Dorado (I've heard good things about the performance of the coil-sprung Comp model) and the new Mattoc. But the potential for a lightweight dual crown version could also be really unique if they can get people to buy it!

5
monarchmason
Posts
152
Joined
5/24/2022
Location
Nevada City, CA US
9/26/2023 9:08am Edited Date/Time 9/26/2023 9:10am
What more can they upgrade it with? It’s already the lightest of the superenduro forks (not sure about the Intend models, but they are boutique), it...

What more can they upgrade it with? It’s already the lightest of the superenduro forks (not sure about the Intend models, but they are boutique), it works incredibly well (don’t mind the reviews where they find problems with the performance - those were examples of the first batches). The only way i can see them improve it is the way of Formula and MRP, with the Selva and the Bartlet - make it a lightweight double-crown fork with a 15mm thru-acle and 190mm travel. Smile In the same time, keep the single crown option! 

samdaman1 wrote:
A coil option could be offered, and maybe also a more varied array of models for different price points so that its more in line with...

A coil option could be offered, and maybe also a more varied array of models for different price points so that its more in line with the Dorado (I've heard good things about the performance of the coil-sprung Comp model) and the new Mattoc. But the potential for a lightweight dual crown version could also be really unique if they can get people to buy it!

Id love it if they decided to throw a curve ball and stand out and make their version of the Intend Bandit using the Dorado

Jakub_G
Posts
223
Joined
8/7/2019
Location
SK
9/26/2023 10:41am
What more can they upgrade it with? It’s already the lightest of the superenduro forks (not sure about the Intend models, but they are boutique), it...

What more can they upgrade it with? It’s already the lightest of the superenduro forks (not sure about the Intend models, but they are boutique), it works incredibly well (don’t mind the reviews where they find problems with the performance - those were examples of the first batches). The only way i can see them improve it is the way of Formula and MRP, with the Selva and the Bartlet - make it a lightweight double-crown fork with a 15mm thru-acle and 190mm travel. Smile In the same time, keep the single crown option! 

Chassis isn't class leading to be honest, lowers and bushings are not optimised for 170-180mm travel on 29 wheels, I know they wouldn't be able to get it close to 2000g if they used beefier lowers, but there is that...

1
One Ghost
Posts
137
Joined
8/1/2009
Location
Mukilteo, WA US
Fantasy
3287th
9/26/2023 10:43am
HUMP ON THE TOP TUBE!!!

image-20230922171046-1

HUMP ON THE TOP TUBE!!!

I hate that, I wish companies would let the camel hump TT just die

8
haen
Posts
90
Joined
12/3/2020
Location
CA US
9/26/2023 11:24am
What more can they upgrade it with? It’s already the lightest of the superenduro forks (not sure about the Intend models, but they are boutique), it...

What more can they upgrade it with? It’s already the lightest of the superenduro forks (not sure about the Intend models, but they are boutique), it works incredibly well (don’t mind the reviews where they find problems with the performance - those were examples of the first batches). The only way i can see them improve it is the way of Formula and MRP, with the Selva and the Bartlet - make it a lightweight double-crown fork with a 15mm thru-acle and 190mm travel. Smile In the same time, keep the single crown option! 

You're forgetting the most important update: shiny and new. 

1
9/26/2023 11:46am
What more can they upgrade it with? It’s already the lightest of the superenduro forks (not sure about the Intend models, but they are boutique), it...

What more can they upgrade it with? It’s already the lightest of the superenduro forks (not sure about the Intend models, but they are boutique), it works incredibly well (don’t mind the reviews where they find problems with the performance - those were examples of the first batches). The only way i can see them improve it is the way of Formula and MRP, with the Selva and the Bartlet - make it a lightweight double-crown fork with a 15mm thru-acle and 190mm travel. Smile In the same time, keep the single crown option! 

A dual crown Mezzer with 160-200mm travel, short offsets (in drop crowns too unlike the current dorado!!), in the ~2500g range… not trying to turn the “tech rumours” forum into a “tech wish list” forum but that sounds like it has a lot of potential to be really rad. Just make sure it’s “e-bike approved” and they’ll sell enough. 

4
WhoKnows
Posts
10
Joined
9/19/2023
Location
Los Gatos, CA US
9/26/2023 11:49am

Anyone know about that repeater with the sram motor and no cable tourism?

9/26/2023 12:40pm
Kapolczer wrote:
A dual crown Mezzer with 160-200mm travel, short offsets (in drop crowns too unlike the current dorado!!), in the ~2500g range… not trying to turn the...

A dual crown Mezzer with 160-200mm travel, short offsets (in drop crowns too unlike the current dorado!!), in the ~2500g range… not trying to turn the “tech rumours” forum into a “tech wish list” forum but that sounds like it has a lot of potential to be really rad. Just make sure it’s “e-bike approved” and they’ll sell enough. 

Or a 160-180mm USD mini Dorado in single and dual crown options… #JustSaying

8
9/26/2023 12:54pm
WhoKnows wrote:

Anyone know about that repeater with the sram motor and no cable tourism?

Gasgas is releasing their ebike soon and that has sram motor so can't be far off.

9/26/2023 12:55pm Edited Date/Time 9/26/2023 1:30pm
Kapolczer wrote:
A dual crown Mezzer with 160-200mm travel, short offsets (in drop crowns too unlike the current dorado!!), in the ~2500g range… not trying to turn the...

A dual crown Mezzer with 160-200mm travel, short offsets (in drop crowns too unlike the current dorado!!), in the ~2500g range… not trying to turn the “tech rumours” forum into a “tech wish list” forum but that sounds like it has a lot of potential to be really rad. Just make sure it’s “e-bike approved” and they’ll sell enough. 

Or a 160-180mm USD mini Dorado in single and dual crown options… #JustSaying

Naaah, too much in common with the Dorado. A dc-Mezzer will be a different enough fork compared to a Dorado - right-side-up vs USD, 15mm vs 20mm axle, fast axle vs bolt-on axle, rearward arch vs no arch, they can further differentiate them with keeping such a dc-Mezzer only up to 190mm compared to the Dorado’s 200mm. Smile My guess is it could be better suited this way for 29er wheels as well! Smile

2
trytochaseme
Posts
5
Joined
8/7/2018
Location
Cedar Springs, MI US
9/26/2023 12:57pm
Kapolczer wrote:
A dual crown Mezzer with 160-200mm travel, short offsets (in drop crowns too unlike the current dorado!!), in the ~2500g range… not trying to turn the...

A dual crown Mezzer with 160-200mm travel, short offsets (in drop crowns too unlike the current dorado!!), in the ~2500g range… not trying to turn the “tech rumours” forum into a “tech wish list” forum but that sounds like it has a lot of potential to be really rad. Just make sure it’s “e-bike approved” and they’ll sell enough. 

Or a 160-180mm USD mini Dorado in single and dual crown options… #JustSaying

I built some 170mm dorados a few years ago. they are the shiz

p5pb19526452-2.jpg?VersionId=5bF4el.v96pVXoRZZrtOqxj2tg 4LbM

24
9/26/2023 1:11pm
Kapolczer wrote:
A dual crown Mezzer with 160-200mm travel, short offsets (in drop crowns too unlike the current dorado!!), in the ~2500g range… not trying to turn the...

A dual crown Mezzer with 160-200mm travel, short offsets (in drop crowns too unlike the current dorado!!), in the ~2500g range… not trying to turn the “tech rumours” forum into a “tech wish list” forum but that sounds like it has a lot of potential to be really rad. Just make sure it’s “e-bike approved” and they’ll sell enough. 

Or a 160-180mm USD mini Dorado in single and dual crown options… #JustSaying

I built some 170mm dorados a few years ago. they are the shiz

I built some 170mm dorados a few years ago. they are the shiz

p5pb19526452-2.jpg?VersionId=5bF4el.v96pVXoRZZrtOqxj2tg 4LbM

What clamps are those? They look great!

3
trytochaseme
Posts
5
Joined
8/7/2018
Location
Cedar Springs, MI US
9/26/2023 1:17pm

Or a 160-180mm USD mini Dorado in single and dual crown options… #JustSaying

I built some 170mm dorados a few years ago. they are the shiz

I built some 170mm dorados a few years ago. they are the shiz

p5pb19526452-2.jpg?VersionId=5bF4el.v96pVXoRZZrtOqxj2tg 4LbM

What clamps are those? They look great!

Thanks, they are some one offs I machined.

4
Primoz
Posts
3545
Joined
8/1/2009
Location
SI
Fantasy
783rd
9/26/2023 2:06pm

It says Sensus on the chainstay yoke near the BB. What's Cam Zink doing these days?

4
9/26/2023 2:06pm
WhoKnows wrote:

Anyone know about that repeater with the sram motor and no cable tourism?

CoolYes I do.  What do you want to know? 

1
1
WhoKnows
Posts
10
Joined
9/19/2023
Location
Los Gatos, CA US
9/26/2023 2:30pm
WhoKnows wrote:

Anyone know about that repeater with the sram motor and no cable tourism?

Yes I do.  What do you want to know? 

CoolYes I do.  What do you want to know? 

When’s it coming out? 

Konda
Posts
21
Joined
5/28/2023
Location
Kidderminster GB
9/26/2023 3:41pm

Preload collar on minnar's warm up bike? 

Isn't that a departure from the current Shimano way of doing things? That's assuming they are actually Shimano cranks. Screenshot 20230926-233608.png?VersionId=oQw5AzPNQsBmIqtFf.Th.bvv

3
TEAMROBOT
Posts
721
Joined
9/2/2009
Location
Los Angeles, CA US
Fantasy
371st
9/26/2023 3:54pm

Good eye! Definitely looks like a Shimano BB-MT800 bottom bracket to my eyes, but I think you can stick any 24mm spindle crank in there that you want. Either it's a new Shimano crank, or maybe Minnaar is experimenting with shorter cranks? I thought it might be an Ochain thing, but some of the other Shimano riders seem to be running Ochain with the XT wide-spindle Superboost crank.

2
Primoz
Posts
3545
Joined
8/1/2009
Location
SI
Fantasy
783rd
9/26/2023 3:56pm

XTR cranks have a preload ring. 

16
Zuestman
Posts
155
Joined
10/27/2014
Location
Seattle, WA US
Fantasy
464th
9/26/2023 5:09pm
Gasgas has a non-ebike "prototype". Looks like an enduro-freeride bike with dual crowns.  https://www.instagram.com/p/CxqjQK3Kqlx/?igshid=NzZhOTFlYzFmZQ==

Gasgas has a non-ebike "prototype". Looks like an enduro-freeride bike with dual crowns. 

https://www.instagram.com/p/CxqjQK3Kqlx/?igshid=NzZhOTFlYzFmZQ==

IMG 20230926 221440.jpg?VersionId=IMG 20230926 221453

Honestly that looks like a stickered over existing frame.  or something they bought off the assembly line.  with the sensus decals we all wonder Zink....is it just a stickered over old Hyper of his?

9
sspomer
Posts
4871
Joined
6/26/2009
Location
Boise, ID US
Fantasy
66th
9/26/2023 5:15pm Edited Date/Time 9/26/2023 5:23pm
Primoz wrote:

It says Sensus on the chainstay yoke near the BB. What's Cam Zink doing these days?

zink rides michelins and it looks like 29/27.5 mullet. seems like rampagers would want dual 27.5 or 27/26 mullets, eh? interesting though. what re-painted frame is it? anyone know?

edit: oh, clicked link - it's alex marin's bike.

4
TannerVal
Posts
118
Joined
2/6/2016
Location
Hampton, NH US
9/26/2023 5:19pm

The gasgas doesn’t look like any existing frames I can think of but has a taipei cycle show catalog frame kinda look to it. Anyone else think it’s dumb that of the 3 ktm brands (ktm, husky, gasgas) they’ve chosen the only one with the word “gas” in the name to be their gravity oriented bike line?

8
1
Yuroshek
Posts
56
Joined
11/2/2009
Location
Ledgewood, NJ US
9/26/2023 8:18pm

I’m just here for the GaGas speculation. 

6
9/26/2023 8:44pm
Gasgas has a non-ebike "prototype". Looks like an enduro-freeride bike with dual crowns.  https://www.instagram.com/p/CxqjQK3Kqlx/?igshid=NzZhOTFlYzFmZQ==

Gasgas has a non-ebike "prototype". Looks like an enduro-freeride bike with dual crowns. 

https://www.instagram.com/p/CxqjQK3Kqlx/?igshid=NzZhOTFlYzFmZQ==

IMG 20230926 221440.jpg?VersionId=IMG 20230926 221453

Zuestman wrote:
Honestly that looks like a stickered over existing frame.  or something they bought off the assembly line.  with the sensus decals we all wonder Zink....is it...

Honestly that looks like a stickered over existing frame.  or something they bought off the assembly line.  with the sensus decals we all wonder Zink....is it just a stickered over old Hyper of his?

I agree, must be an existing frame. Looks like carbon fiber to me, not the cheapest way to make a one-off frame / prototype unless it's production ready. 

Uncle Cliffy
Posts
280
Joined
3/11/2010
Location
Medford, OR US
9/26/2023 8:58pm
sspomer wrote:
zink rides michelins and it looks like 29/27.5 mullet. seems like rampagers would want dual 27.5 or 27/26 mullets, eh? interesting though. what re-painted frame is...

zink rides michelins and it looks like 29/27.5 mullet. seems like rampagers would want dual 27.5 or 27/26 mullets, eh? interesting though. what re-painted frame is it? anyone know?

edit: oh, clicked link - it's alex marin's bike.

All this GasGas jibber jabber, and nobody has mentioned his interesting drivetrain…  Blink

Onawalk
Posts
294
Joined
7/5/2021
Location
CA
9/26/2023 9:19pm
Gasgas has a non-ebike "prototype". Looks like an enduro-freeride bike with dual crowns.  https://www.instagram.com/p/CxqjQK3Kqlx/?igshid=NzZhOTFlYzFmZQ==

Gasgas has a non-ebike "prototype". Looks like an enduro-freeride bike with dual crowns. 

https://www.instagram.com/p/CxqjQK3Kqlx/?igshid=NzZhOTFlYzFmZQ==

IMG 20230926 221440.jpg?VersionId=IMG 20230926 221453

You spelled park/DH bike strangely.

Nothing "enduro" about a close ratio DH cassette, DC fork, and lack of a dropper post.

I dig it though

 

11

Post a reply to: MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation

The Latest