MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation

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lloyd506
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9/15/2023 3:00pm Edited Date/Time 9/15/2023 3:00pm
orrhadar wrote:

Does anybody here have a release date for the norco HP's that were mentioned here?

Embargoed until spring 2024.

boozed wrote:

Bloody hell that's 12 months away

Norco could shut down before the new bikes are released. 

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9/15/2023 4:04pm
sspomer wrote:
pit bits from chatel EDR (caution, there may be a high-pivot bike or two inside) https://www.vitalmtb.com/pit-bits-edr-chatel

pit bits from chatel EDR (caution, there may be a high-pivot bike or two inside)

https://www.vitalmtb.com/pit-bits-edr-chatel

chatelA

Is that Jack Moir using an OChain? That would be new for him.... have we all agreed yet if they are effective?

He did have one on the old strive for a little bit. 

lickmycrinkle
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9/16/2023 2:48pm Edited Date/Time 9/16/2023 2:51pm
New shimano rotors on Richie Rude’s bike?

IMG 0272.png?VersionId=.g25O63zvXTLLBG8EPpIAtoNew shimano rotors on Richie Rude’s bike?

RT-CL900.

Seems to have dropped with the recent 12 speed mechanical GRX and 105.

RT-CL900-203-primary 1 750 750.jpg?VersionId=Dxc

 

The recent article from https://escapecollective.com/shimano-grx-rx820-12-speed-mechanical-a-hands-on-look/ suggests that the whole line of freeza rotors is going to this less polygonal shape moving forward, which was introduced with 12spd Dura-Ace.

screenshot-escapecollective.com-2023.09.16-23 39 39

Looks like while the covers are off on Shimano's website, they're not in any online stores yet (in 180 or 203).

I personally preferred the edgier look, and somehow I guess the polygons would stick out into the wind more.

Here's XT just for kicks too. Here's hoping they make a CL 220 in something higher than Deore, my fat ass needs the cooling.

RT-CL800-203-primary 1 750 750

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9/16/2023 3:56pm
New shimano rotors on Richie Rude’s bike?

IMG 0272.png?VersionId=.g25O63zvXTLLBG8EPpIAtoNew shimano rotors on Richie Rude’s bike?

Hand is hiding the rebound knob from the new damper

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mike_dee
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9/17/2023 2:22am
sspomer wrote:
pit bits from chatel EDR (caution, there may be a high-pivot bike or two inside) https://www.vitalmtb.com/pit-bits-edr-chatel

pit bits from chatel EDR (caution, there may be a high-pivot bike or two inside)

https://www.vitalmtb.com/pit-bits-edr-chatel

chatelA

Is that Jack Moir using an OChain? That would be new for him.... have we all agreed yet if they are effective?

Probably Texi, Jack doesnt use coil shock either, he has a Vivid

mtbthe603
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9/17/2023 8:50am

New Transition Repeater full power ebike with the SRAM motor and through the frame routing from the other site's EDR Tech Randoms...

Screenshot 2023-09-17 at 8.44.04 AM

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9/17/2023 12:55pm

Is it just me or does this HP Rocky have both a double crown fork and a widerange cassette? Smile  

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9/17/2023 3:29pm
mtbthe603 wrote:
New Transition Repeater full power ebike with the SRAM motor and through the frame routing from the other site's EDR Tech Randoms...

New Transition Repeater full power ebike with the SRAM motor and through the frame routing from the other site's EDR Tech Randoms...

Screenshot 2023-09-17 at 8.44.04 AM

Wonder why the downvote.  Man’s speaking the truth 

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veefour
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9/17/2023 5:41pm Edited Date/Time 9/17/2023 5:44pm
mtbthe603 wrote:
New Transition Repeater full power ebike with the SRAM motor and through the frame routing from the other site's EDR Tech Randoms...

New Transition Repeater full power ebike with the SRAM motor and through the frame routing from the other site's EDR Tech Randoms...

Screenshot 2023-09-17 at 8.44.04 AM

Wonder why the downvote.  Man’s speaking the truth 

I'm guessing it's because it's an ebike. But it's an ebike that used to have cable tourism and they've addressed the issue. That's a win in my book.

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metadave
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9/17/2023 9:43pm

Is it just me or does this HP Rocky have both a double crown fork and a widerange cassette? Smile  

That may or may not have been a slayer proto that didnt happen... from my understanding they couldn't get it to ride the way they wanted, which was poppy and playful instead of a full sled

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9/18/2023 3:42am

Then apparently they need to contact Devinci and ask them what they did with the Chainsaw in order for everybody to rave about it and still say it’s not a full blown dh-weapon! Smile

9/18/2023 8:45am
cprnc wrote:
Spotted on a Rocky Mountain factory tour (9min40)

Spotted on a Rocky Mountain factory tour (9min40)

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1llumA wrote:

Can also see the new altitude briefly being assembled @ 6:38 and black frame hanging @ 7:01

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You can read on the diagram the 3 curves on the "Evo Mule concept" with 190mm read travel, beside the Slayer  and altitude curves.

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9/18/2023 10:51am Edited Date/Time 9/18/2023 10:58am

p3pb25560094

Fox +2022 crowns got 4 mm higher. This one looks differently. More like ext.

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brewtus
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9/18/2023 12:24pm
cprnc wrote:
Spotted on a Rocky Mountain factory tour (9min40)

Spotted on a Rocky Mountain factory tour (9min40)

image-20230917154015-1

1llumA wrote:

Can also see the new altitude briefly being assembled @ 6:38 and black frame hanging @ 7:01

  You can read on the diagram the 3 curves on the "Evo Mule concept" with 190mm read travel, beside the Slayer  and altitude curves.

Capture d%E2%80%99e%CC%81cran 2023-09-18 a%CC%80 17.40.06

 

You can read on the diagram the 3 curves on the "Evo Mule concept" with 190mm read travel, beside the Slayer  and altitude curves.

Some interesting stuff hanging on the wall. Likely the new Altitude on the far right which lines up with the previous (now private) video. Beside it are what looks like the current Instinct / Altitude frame with a penalty box. Perhaps the Instinct and Altitude will have different frames, or it could be a new Element? Then the blue frame with a seat stay brace and what looks like a shock tunnel matching the aluminum mule with a dual crown. 

frames

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9/18/2023 2:09pm Edited Date/Time 9/18/2023 4:03pm
cprnc wrote:
Spotted on a Rocky Mountain factory tour (9min40)

Spotted on a Rocky Mountain factory tour (9min40)

image-20230917154015-1

1llumA wrote:

Can also see the new altitude briefly being assembled @ 6:38 and black frame hanging @ 7:01

  You can read on the diagram the 3 curves on the "Evo Mule concept" with 190mm read travel, beside the Slayer  and altitude curves.

Capture d%E2%80%99e%CC%81cran 2023-09-18 a%CC%80 17.40.06

 

You can read on the diagram the 3 curves on the "Evo Mule concept" with 190mm read travel, beside the Slayer  and altitude curves.

Seems like their mule could use different "main" pivots; one for an idler and one without (and you can see the resulting differences in motion ratio in the graph, with the idler system having slightly lower leverage in the first half of travel and a barely more progressive end behavior). Probably a solid chance we'll see the 'production concept' within a year or two.

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You can also see an aluminum e-bike frame elsewhere in the video as well:

Screenshot 2023-09-18 141135

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9/18/2023 2:33pm

This same YouTuber also recently did a tour of the Norco headquarters here...here's the best look at what I think is probably an upcoming 'mid-pivot' e-bike, or at least a prototype of one.

Screenshot 2023-09-18 142317

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Onawalk
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9/18/2023 8:10pm
This same YouTuber also recently did a tour of the Norco headquarters here...here's the best look at what I think is probably an upcoming 'mid-pivot'...

This same YouTuber also recently did a tour of the Norco headquarters here...here's the best look at what I think is probably an upcoming 'mid-pivot' e-bike, or at least a prototype of one.

Screenshot 2023-09-18 142317

interesting bottle placement, looks like a horizontally mounted shock..

Any pics of the upcoming Optic/Sight?

haen
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9/18/2023 8:15pm
This same YouTuber also recently did a tour of the Norco headquarters here...here's the best look at what I think is probably an upcoming 'mid-pivot'...

This same YouTuber also recently did a tour of the Norco headquarters here...here's the best look at what I think is probably an upcoming 'mid-pivot' e-bike, or at least a prototype of one.

Screenshot 2023-09-18 142317

Onawalk wrote:

interesting bottle placement, looks like a horizontally mounted shock..

Any pics of the upcoming Optic/Sight?

Same shock placement as the current Sight VLT. 

sight vlt a1 silver black clipped-full.jpg?VersionId=wDloncgx0Oe

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9/18/2023 8:40pm
This same YouTuber also recently did a tour of the Norco headquarters here...here's the best look at what I think is probably an upcoming 'mid-pivot'...

This same YouTuber also recently did a tour of the Norco headquarters here...here's the best look at what I think is probably an upcoming 'mid-pivot' e-bike, or at least a prototype of one.

Screenshot 2023-09-18 142317

Onawalk wrote:

interesting bottle placement, looks like a horizontally mounted shock..

Any pics of the upcoming Optic/Sight?

haen wrote:
Same shock placement as the current Sight VLT. 

Same shock placement as the current Sight VLT. 

sight vlt a1 silver black clipped-full.jpg?VersionId=wDloncgx0Oe

It's a little harder to make out since it's upside down and from the non-drive side, but to me it looks like the lower pivot (when right side up) has been raised above the chainring, judging by the elevation of the chainstays relative to the BB. Sure looks like a successor to me.

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brash
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9/18/2023 9:14pm

I have the current Range VLT, that pivot is miles higher. Also it doesn't look like a shimano motor to me.

 

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