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Knolly has been working on a new long-travel enduro bike. Expect some news very soon!

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  Bike in the background and name on the box pretty hidden

IMG 3304
 

Bike in the background and name on the box pretty hidden

TayRob wrote:

It will be under the Heckler name from what I have heard.

It's called the Heckler SL. Official release is right around the corner.

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9/11/2023 5:28am
FullSend wrote:

Knolly has been working on a new long-travel enduro bike. Expect some news very soon!

Something different than an Warden or Chili in the Gen 6 style we know is coming? 

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9/11/2023 5:40am
FullSend wrote:

Knolly has been working on a new long-travel enduro bike. Expect some news very soon!

Wasn’t there a picture of one floating around at crankworx? Pretty much the same but with straighter tubing?

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IMG 1574.jpeg?VersionId=4xvB NGAIE3jBOTg.F5jTMF0TRTThe aforementioned knolly up top. Looks a bit less ugly.

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Looks like a new rocker paddle coming from SRAM for the latest AXS pod.

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Seen on Richie's Instagram story a couple days ago. Custom air valve cap, or something else?

Seen on Richie's Instagram story a couple days ago. Custom air valve cap, or something else?

Screenshot 20230909-070857

Dunno why you got downvoted for that; it's part of a BYB data acquisition set-up: https://www.bybtech.it/telemetry 

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9/11/2023 8:18am

Probably because it was posted on the last page too 

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9/11/2023 9:20am
We’ll have you ever tried one? also that dumb comment “marketing is a hell of a drug” have you ever tried one @nskerb? I tried one...

We’ll have you ever tried one?

also that dumb comment “marketing is a hell of a drug”

have you ever tried one @nskerb?

I tried one without knowing it was even a bike brand few years ago, it was a evil calling, not the best up, not the best down in being glued to the ground, although that ride was a party.

I tried more than 30 bikes from other famous and nice brands and while many were better in some aspects, none were as fun to ride.

so marketing have nothing to do with this, and “it’s just a single pivot” means nothing.

simple suspension scheme can be amazing if well tuned, but unless you try it’s hard to judge properly 

No I haven’t tried one. I’d be stoked to try one of the opportunity presented itself but I won’t really make an effort to seek one out to try. 
 

I just don’t think you can call it the most funnest suspension platform ever. That’s pretty subjective. Is there quantitative information to back that up, or you just think it’s really fun? I have a newer Norco, it uses a series of links and pivots to connect a shock to the frame and I think it’s pretty fun also. But it’s probably just fun because it’s a bike with a rear shock. All of the suspension platforms that aren’t super high pivots are now more than ever getting very similar kinematic wise. It’s all just marketing to get people to buy shit lol.

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I've been watching pits bits from Les gets and I noticed something interesting, Scott team is running Shimano drivetrains and as expected they use saint cranks...

I've been watching pits bits from Les gets and I noticed something interesting, Scott team is running Shimano drivetrains and as expected they use saint cranks (real ones not like Laurie lol) but they are also on ochain, so it seems to me they either bodged it somehow (and I find that very hard to believe that they would remove the spider and we're able to somehow reliably reattach suitable mounting interface back on the crank arm) or possibly new saint cranks will be the same as previous generation just with dm chainring. The video in question https://youtu.be/vHhBc61VPXo?si=m1mJAVWcw6ZXrgx9 Scott section starts at 2:25

nicompr wrote:
Here it is. And Goldstone has one too on this post https://www.instagram.com/p/Cw_d3s8xp8f/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

Screenshot 20230910-120041.jpg?VersionId=8u7JZm651TfytZS

Here it is. And Goldstone has one too on this post https://www.instagram.com/p/Cw_d3s8xp8f/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&ig…

Great sleuthing. Are you sure that isn't a Saint decal on a wide spindle XT crank? The new M8130 XT cranks for Superboost frames run a really wide spindle that I imagine you could run on an 83mm bottom bracket.

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9/11/2023 9:45am

Don't think I've seen it be mentioned before, but a lot of riders sponsored by YT have been running the new Super Deluxe Coil Ultimate on the Tues, even though they're built around a 267x89 shock rather than the metric sizing that all of the newest Rockshox shocks use. I'm assuming its a custom item that Rockshox are producing for YT just because they want sponsored riders to be using their latest and greatest tech rather than the now decade old Vivid (although Johann Potgieter was on one at Worlds), but it got me thinking, are there any other current bikes that are still using imperial shock sizing and therefore be due an update so they're compatible with all of the shocks that are only available in metric sizing? 

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That crank has been in the "wild" for awhile... Greg 2020 V-10 from Lousa WC

That crank has been in the "wild" for awhile...

Greg 2020 V-10 from Lousa WCScreenshot 20230911-123916~2

That is not the same crank 😂

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TEAMROBOT wrote:
Great sleuthing. Are you sure that isn't a Saint decal on a wide spindle XT crank? The new M8130 XT cranks for Superboost frames run a...

Great sleuthing. Are you sure that isn't a Saint decal on a wide spindle XT crank? The new M8130 XT cranks for Superboost frames run a really wide spindle that I imagine you could run on an 83mm bottom bracket.

I'm very sure, the sharp edges of the saint crankarms are clearly visible in the video(and no other Shimano cranks share similar profile, they are all much rounder and overall smaller as expected),on the picture of Marine saint logo on the inside of the non drive side crank is also exactly the same as the recent saint has. 

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9/11/2023 10:43am
  Bike in the background and name on the box pretty hidden

IMG 3304
 

Bike in the background and name on the box pretty hidden

TayRob wrote:

It will be under the Heckler name from what I have heard.

FullSend wrote:

It's called the Heckler SL. Official release is right around the corner.

tomorrow ….?!

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I just put a set of 11sp XT linkglide shifter ,derailleur and cassette on my enduro bike. the shifting is unreal. Never felt shifting so precise and crisp (I have only used shimano's XT/XTR).. I tried for science using conventional shimano 11sp cassette, did not work... I knew shifter/derailleur work on a different pull, but the cassette is also part of the magic.

anyway, just a heads up in the era of "transmission" ; )

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9/11/2023 12:19pm Edited Date/Time 9/11/2023 12:21pm
samdaman1 wrote:
Don't think I've seen it be mentioned before, but a lot of riders sponsored by YT have been running the new Super Deluxe Coil Ultimate on...

Don't think I've seen it be mentioned before, but a lot of riders sponsored by YT have been running the new Super Deluxe Coil Ultimate on the Tues, even though they're built around a 267x89 shock rather than the metric sizing that all of the newest Rockshox shocks use. I'm assuming its a custom item that Rockshox are producing for YT just because they want sponsored riders to be using their latest and greatest tech rather than the now decade old Vivid (although Johann Potgieter was on one at Worlds), but it got me thinking, are there any other current bikes that are still using imperial shock sizing and therefore be due an update so they're compatible with all of the shocks that are only available in metric sizing? 

The 27,5 Tues has 267x89 and the 29er has 250x75.

IMG 6232.png?VersionId=K51FNosAtp

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samdaman1 wrote:
Don't think I've seen it be mentioned before, but a lot of riders sponsored by YT have been running the new Super Deluxe Coil Ultimate on...

Don't think I've seen it be mentioned before, but a lot of riders sponsored by YT have been running the new Super Deluxe Coil Ultimate on the Tues, even though they're built around a 267x89 shock rather than the metric sizing that all of the newest Rockshox shocks use. I'm assuming its a custom item that Rockshox are producing for YT just because they want sponsored riders to be using their latest and greatest tech rather than the now decade old Vivid (although Johann Potgieter was on one at Worlds), but it got me thinking, are there any other current bikes that are still using imperial shock sizing and therefore be due an update so they're compatible with all of the shocks that are only available in metric sizing? 

The 27,5 Tues has 267x89 and the 29er has 250x75.

The 27,5 Tues has 267x89 and the 29er has 250x75.

IMG 6232.png?VersionId=K51FNosAtp

I genuinely had not spotted this, thanks! 

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9/11/2023 5:03pm

Specialized new product launch tomorrow. Someone has told be 3 new bikes, but wouldn't say if that's different models. 

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9/11/2023 6:13pm

From the other site, Luca said he ran a proto Maxxis on the front at Les Gets, and Roger Viera was on a Kenda Double Black (proto) in the rear

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9/11/2023 6:22pm
dolface wrote:
From the other site, Luca said he ran a proto Maxxis on the front at Les Gets, and Roger Viera was on a Kenda Double Black...

From the other site, Luca said he ran a proto Maxxis on the front at Les Gets, and Roger Viera was on a Kenda Double Black (proto) in the rear

IMG 1599I remember seeing or hearing something about this tire earlier this year. Basically a shorty with more supportive cornering knobs and maybe slightly shorter center tread. Anyone that’s run a shorty knows how unpredictable they can get in big compressions when cornering.

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19flo09 wrote:

tomorrow ….?!

Will be live on Santa Cruz site at 12am PDT tonight.

 

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Losifer wrote:

Specialized new product launch tomorrow. Someone has told be 3 new bikes, but wouldn't say if that's different models. 

It will be drop bar stuff.

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9/12/2023 5:41am Edited Date/Time 9/12/2023 5:42am

2024 Instinct/Altitude seems to look like a Santa Cruz clone

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9/12/2023 7:23am

I have to admit, the "companies are making regular bikes look more like e-bikes so the e-bikes look more like regular bikes" conspiracy theorists just got a little more ammunition with the release of the Heckler SL.  

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