Any info on the specialized bikes?? Enduro and both stumpjumper have been out for a while now... Specially the enduro.
Yup, new enduro on its way very soon. Spotted at my buddy’s shop, he won’t show any pictures though. He says it looks a lot like Finn’s DH bike. Not sure if it will be lugged or not.
Yup, new enduro on its way very soon. Spotted at my buddy’s shop, he won’t show any pictures though. He says it looks a lot like...
Yup, new enduro on its way very soon. Spotted at my buddy’s shop, he won’t show any pictures though. He says it looks a lot like Finn’s DH bike. Not sure if it will be lugged or not.
Are you serious?!? I was supposed to go get a new trek slash high pivot yesterday but didnt have time so have to go this week as the shop was closed today... Then I'll go at the Specialized shop to see if they'll have a new Enduro soon because if it has a steep S.A., I might go this way instead of the high pivot with idler, even if the slash seems to be a lot better to pedal (than other high pivot bike)!
Yup, new enduro on its way very soon. Spotted at my buddy’s shop, he won’t show any pictures though. He says it looks a lot like...
Yup, new enduro on its way very soon. Spotted at my buddy’s shop, he won’t show any pictures though. He says it looks a lot like Finn’s DH bike. Not sure if it will be lugged or not.
I’m sure the enduro could be totally different but I don’t really see why it should be, from a consumer standpoint. Geo is still completely dialed 3 years after release (or 5 years I don’t really know)
I have only been really into mountain bikes for like 8 years so maybe but I don’t see where they can get much better geo/kinematic wise.
I’m sure the enduro could be totally different but I don’t really see why it should be, from a consumer standpoint. Geo is still completely dialed...
I’m sure the enduro could be totally different but I don’t really see why it should be, from a consumer standpoint. Geo is still completely dialed 3 years after release (or 5 years I don’t really know)
I have only been really into mountain bikes for like 8 years so maybe but I don’t see where they can get much better geo/kinematic wise.
More and more manufacturers go to high-pivot, some are also using significantly longer shocks for 170-180mm of travel, if i’m not mistaken the Enduro uses a 60mm-stroke shock for its 170mm which can be tricky for a little heavier riders. Also, there are now even slacker shorter-travel bikes than the Enduro - they do need to change the geo.
I’m sure the enduro could be totally different but I don’t really see why it should be, from a consumer standpoint. Geo is still completely dialed...
I’m sure the enduro could be totally different but I don’t really see why it should be, from a consumer standpoint. Geo is still completely dialed 3 years after release (or 5 years I don’t really know)
I have only been really into mountain bikes for like 8 years so maybe but I don’t see where they can get much better geo/kinematic wise.
More and more manufacturers go to high-pivot, some are also using significantly longer shocks for 170-180mm of travel, if i’m not mistaken the Enduro uses a...
More and more manufacturers go to high-pivot, some are also using significantly longer shocks for 170-180mm of travel, if i’m not mistaken the Enduro uses a 60mm-stroke shock for its 170mm which can be tricky for a little heavier riders. Also, there are now even slacker shorter-travel bikes than the Enduro - they do need to change the geo.
that's actually a 176mm to the wheel, claimed 170mm on the current enduro.
I’m sure the enduro could be totally different but I don’t really see why it should be, from a consumer standpoint. Geo is still completely dialed...
I’m sure the enduro could be totally different but I don’t really see why it should be, from a consumer standpoint. Geo is still completely dialed 3 years after release (or 5 years I don’t really know)
I have only been really into mountain bikes for like 8 years so maybe but I don’t see where they can get much better geo/kinematic wise.
More and more manufacturers go to high-pivot, some are also using significantly longer shocks for 170-180mm of travel, if i’m not mistaken the Enduro uses a...
More and more manufacturers go to high-pivot, some are also using significantly longer shocks for 170-180mm of travel, if i’m not mistaken the Enduro uses a 60mm-stroke shock for its 170mm which can be tricky for a little heavier riders. Also, there are now even slacker shorter-travel bikes than the Enduro - they do need to change the geo.
More and more manufacturers go to high-pivot, some are also using significantly longer shocks for 170-180mm of travel, if i’m not mistaken the Enduro uses a...
More and more manufacturers go to high-pivot, some are also using significantly longer shocks for 170-180mm of travel, if i’m not mistaken the Enduro uses a 60mm-stroke shock for its 170mm which can be tricky for a little heavier riders. Also, there are now even slacker shorter-travel bikes than the Enduro - they do need to change the geo.
You mean the current Enduro actually has 176mm of travel against the 170 officially?
Yes. And I agree that Enduro is not really up to date, only thing that is ok-ish in this day and age is reach and wheelbase, but head angle? Nope. Seat angle? Double nope? Proportional or adjustable chainstay length? You guessed it. And kinematics are not that great either with Almost 3:1 average LR, anyone over 100kg will have very hard time finding the right coil or air shock that can be pumped to necessary pressure.
Yup, new enduro on its way very soon. Spotted at my buddy’s shop, he won’t show any pictures though. He says it looks a lot like...
Yup, new enduro on its way very soon. Spotted at my buddy’s shop, he won’t show any pictures though. He says it looks a lot like Finn’s DH bike. Not sure if it will be lugged or not.
If this is true, Specialized have done an amazing job keeping it under wraps prior to the bike landing in shops. Not a single spy shot has surfaced and it's not been spotted under any of the team riders at an EWS (or whatever it's called now).
Prior to the current version's release, there were a number of pics like these floating around. Did NSMB's whining have an effect?
I highly doubt there's a new enduro coming or it would of been raced already at EDR.
Close out sales on stumpys and enduros locally here. Shop guys said there is a new Stumpy coming soon but didn’t know anything about a new enduro 🤷🏻♂️
that's actually a 176mm to the wheel, claimed 170mm on the current enduro.
I thought there was no way this was true, but yeah it sure seems like it. It's super sensitive to miniscule changes but there's almost no way it's actually 170mm, and if anything it's closer to 180mm. I guess sometimes it "rides like it has more travel than it does" because, well, it actually does.
I know this had been mentioned in a bike check article from the Gamux team on the other site a few weeks back. But it looks like manitou might have a production ready version of the 2-bolt Dorado upper crown? Probably too optimistic to assume it’s a drop crown with short offset so it can be used on a wider range of headtubes too?
I thought there was no way this was true, but yeah it sure seems like it. It's super sensitive to miniscule changes but there's almost no way...
I thought there was no way this was true, but yeah it sure seems like it. It's super sensitive to miniscule changes but there's almost no way it's actually 170mm, and if anything it's closer to 180mm. I guess sometimes it "rides like it has more travel than it does" because, well, it actually does.
High vs low also influences travel a lot too. Putting it in high increases the eye to eye by 3 mm. If you integrate the leverage curve for the enduro on our site you get 176mm as well
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New Fox Proframe out, the RS remains the same, the regular Proframe gets the updates, specifically adjustable visor which the prior/current regular Proframe didn’t have. Some other stuff too
I thought there was no way this was true, but yeah it sure seems like it. It's super sensitive to miniscule changes but there's almost no way...
I thought there was no way this was true, but yeah it sure seems like it. It's super sensitive to miniscule changes but there's almost no way it's actually 170mm, and if anything it's closer to 180mm. I guess sometimes it "rides like it has more travel than it does" because, well, it actually does.
High vs low also influences travel a lot too. Putting it in high increases the eye to eye by 3 mm. If you integrate the leverage...
High vs low also influences travel a lot too. Putting it in high increases the eye to eye by 3 mm. If you integrate the leverage curve for the enduro on our site you get 176mm as well
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I don't have one myself, but seeing how popular the Enduro has been, I'd bet a lot of people could benefit from a 'Long Stroke' link for a 205x65mm shock. No idea why Spesh made the leverage ratio so high.
High vs low also influences travel a lot too. Putting it in high increases the eye to eye by 3 mm. If you integrate the leverage...
High vs low also influences travel a lot too. Putting it in high increases the eye to eye by 3 mm. If you integrate the leverage curve for the enduro on our site you get 176mm as well
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Does the Transition Spire also have more travel in the high setting?
I don't have one myself, but seeing how popular the Enduro has been, I'd bet a lot of people could benefit from a 'Long Stroke' link...
I don't have one myself, but seeing how popular the Enduro has been, I'd bet a lot of people could benefit from a 'Long Stroke' link for a 205x65mm shock. No idea why Spesh made the leverage ratio so high.
They weren’t alone at the time. Both the Megatower and Nomad ran similar strokes. As long as sag can get set properly it’s fine, but it definitely makes that harder for anyone on the heavier end. A lower leverage link for a 65 on the enduro certainly would be an interesting thing. No guarantee it can work out but definitely at least going to look at it out of curiosity.
Does the Transition Spire also have more travel in the high setting?
Don’t have my computer with me so can’t give an exact answer, but on the Spire I would expect it to be a very small difference if any. The enduro flip chip is effectively the same as increasing the length of the shock yoke, which makes it sit in a higher leverage portion of its curve. Meanwhile the Spire is moving the lower shock pivot so it’s actually giving it a unique, albeit very similar, curve.
I’m sure the enduro could be totally different but I don’t really see why it should be, from a consumer standpoint. Geo is still completely dialed...
I’m sure the enduro could be totally different but I don’t really see why it should be, from a consumer standpoint. Geo is still completely dialed 3 years after release (or 5 years I don’t really know)
I have only been really into mountain bikes for like 8 years so maybe but I don’t see where they can get much better geo/kinematic wise.
I think it could be more progressive, have a 230x65 (or at least a 65mm stroke shock) but it REALLY needs a steeper S.A.! Even in 2019, it was a bit slack... I wouldn't change anything else for the geo.
I’m sure the enduro could be totally different but I don’t really see why it should be, from a consumer standpoint. Geo is still completely dialed...
I’m sure the enduro could be totally different but I don’t really see why it should be, from a consumer standpoint. Geo is still completely dialed 3 years after release (or 5 years I don’t really know)
I have only been really into mountain bikes for like 8 years so maybe but I don’t see where they can get much better geo/kinematic wise.
I think it could be more progressive, have a 230x65 (or at least a 65mm stroke shock) but it REALLY needs a steeper S.A.! Even in...
I think it could be more progressive, have a 230x65 (or at least a 65mm stroke shock) but it REALLY needs a steeper S.A.! Even in 2019, it was a bit slack... I wouldn't change anything else for the geo.
In my view a 65mm shock is a must on a 160-170mm bike, a 60mm stroke is OK for a 150ish mm travel. A 180mm frame would be best suited to a longer-stroke shock - in light of this, i think Devinci have nailed it with the Chainsaw: a 70mm stroke for 170mm of travel and a 75mm stroke for 180mm of travel.
"LMT" might be the name of a new damper (like GRIP or GRIP2), but it also could be a tune code for the fork. Could be three letters to indicate rebound shims, compression shims, and no idea what the T is, so "LMT" could mean something like "Low, Medium, Threshold." Although that nomenclature has a very Rockshox sound to it.
Is there any new info on when the new conti tires will be available with softer rubber in lighter casings? Think I heard/saw that was coming?
maybe just trying to keep the current range in stock first haha.
I also want this though, i dont want DH casing to get super soft....
I heard/saw that they don't plan to do that in foreseeable future.
I asked conti UK, who could neither confirm or deny that SS enduro tyres were on the way soon
Yup, new enduro on its way very soon. Spotted at my buddy’s shop, he won’t show any pictures though. He says it looks a lot like Finn’s DH bike. Not sure if it will be lugged or not.
Are you serious?!? I was supposed to go get a new trek slash high pivot yesterday but didnt have time so have to go this week as the shop was closed today... Then I'll go at the Specialized shop to see if they'll have a new Enduro soon because if it has a steep S.A., I might go this way instead of the high pivot with idler, even if the slash seems to be a lot better to pedal (than other high pivot bike)!
SJ EVO will be right behind it.
I’m sure the enduro could be totally different but I don’t really see why it should be, from a consumer standpoint. Geo is still completely dialed 3 years after release (or 5 years I don’t really know)
I have only been really into mountain bikes for like 8 years so maybe but I don’t see where they can get much better geo/kinematic wise.
More and more manufacturers go to high-pivot, some are also using significantly longer shocks for 170-180mm of travel, if i’m not mistaken the Enduro uses a 60mm-stroke shock for its 170mm which can be tricky for a little heavier riders. Also, there are now even slacker shorter-travel bikes than the Enduro - they do need to change the geo.
that's actually a 176mm to the wheel, claimed 170mm on the current enduro.
You mean the current Enduro actually has 176mm of travel against the 170 officially?
Pretty sure I saw this on someone's Insta from Taipei back i March (was it yours @iceman2058?), hope it's still happening
Yes. And I agree that Enduro is not really up to date, only thing that is ok-ish in this day and age is reach and wheelbase, but head angle? Nope. Seat angle? Double nope? Proportional or adjustable chainstay length? You guessed it. And kinematics are not that great either with Almost 3:1 average LR, anyone over 100kg will have very hard time finding the right coil or air shock that can be pumped to necessary pressure.
I'll be interested to see the new E29 for sure as it seems that Spesh is leaning in to slack STAs & short CSs. The new E29 could be a step backwards.
If this is true, Specialized have done an amazing job keeping it under wraps prior to the bike landing in shops. Not a single spy shot has surfaced and it's not been spotted under any of the team riders at an EWS (or whatever it's called now).
Prior to the current version's release, there were a number of pics like these floating around. Did NSMB's whining have an effect?
I highly doubt there's a new enduro coming or it would of been raced already at EDR.
Close out sales on stumpys and enduros locally here. Shop guys said there is a new Stumpy coming soon but didn’t know anything about a new enduro 🤷🏻♂️
I thought there was no way this was true, but yeah it sure seems like it. It's super sensitive to miniscule changes but there's almost no way it's actually 170mm, and if anything it's closer to 180mm. I guess sometimes it "rides like it has more travel than it does" because, well, it actually does.
I know this had been mentioned in a bike check article from the Gamux team on the other site a few weeks back. But it looks like manitou might have a production ready version of the 2-bolt Dorado upper crown? Probably too optimistic to assume it’s a drop crown with short offset so it can be used on a wider range of headtubes too?
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cwx-XwfNC-b/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
High vs low also influences travel a lot too. Putting it in high increases the eye to eye by 3 mm. If you integrate the leverage curve for the enduro on our site you get 176mm as well
.
New Fox Proframe out, the RS remains the same, the regular Proframe gets the updates, specifically adjustable visor which the prior/current regular Proframe didn’t have. Some other stuff too
https://flowmountainbike.com/fresh-produce/fox-proframe-2023/
I don't have one myself, but seeing how popular the Enduro has been, I'd bet a lot of people could benefit from a 'Long Stroke' link for a 205x65mm shock. No idea why Spesh made the leverage ratio so high.
Does the Transition Spire also have more travel in the high setting?
They weren’t alone at the time. Both the Megatower and Nomad ran similar strokes. As long as sag can get set properly it’s fine, but it definitely makes that harder for anyone on the heavier end. A lower leverage link for a 65 on the enduro certainly would be an interesting thing. No guarantee it can work out but definitely at least going to look at it out of curiosity.
Don’t have my computer with me so can’t give an exact answer, but on the Spire I would expect it to be a very small difference if any. The enduro flip chip is effectively the same as increasing the length of the shock yoke, which makes it sit in a higher leverage portion of its curve. Meanwhile the Spire is moving the lower shock pivot so it’s actually giving it a unique, albeit very similar, curve.
I think it could be more progressive, have a 230x65 (or at least a 65mm stroke shock) but it REALLY needs a steeper S.A.! Even in 2019, it was a bit slack... I wouldn't change anything else for the geo.
Regarding the Specialized Enduro - UDH is missing at the moment, could be a problem for 2024.
At least if you want to sell SWORKS bikes for 14k...
In my view a 65mm shock is a must on a 160-170mm bike, a 60mm stroke is OK for a 150ish mm travel. A 180mm frame would be best suited to a longer-stroke shock - in light of this, i think Devinci have nailed it with the Chainsaw: a 70mm stroke for 170mm of travel and a 75mm stroke for 180mm of travel.
new fox fork damper incoming called "LMT" according to the newest dialed video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TYdXxorCH8
@2:15
"LMT" might be the name of a new damper (like GRIP or GRIP2), but it also could be a tune code for the fork. Could be three letters to indicate rebound shims, compression shims, and no idea what the T is, so "LMT" could mean something like "Low, Medium, Threshold." Although that nomenclature has a very Rockshox sound to it.
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