If you watch the Fox Dialed with the bike checks, they actually say the name a few times. Taj also said the name of a new...
If you watch the Fox Dialed with the bike checks, they actually say the name a few times. Taj also said the name of a new fork dampener that's supposed to come out in 2024. Had it written down somewhere and already lost it. Watch Taj's bike check at the beginning to get the name
been keeping tabs on the new speshys, but also curious about a dreadnought V2. Had the Druid v2 out for a bit, and the DH has the same split rear triangle as the new Druid. Dreadnought surely to follow soon?
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been keeping tabs on the new speshys, but also curious about a dreadnought V2. Had the Druid v2 out...
Long time lurker, first time poster.
been keeping tabs on the new speshys, but also curious about a dreadnought V2. Had the Druid v2 out for a bit, and the DH has the same split rear triangle as the new Druid. Dreadnought surely to follow soon?
Just saw this on Sram’s IG yesterday. Victor Koretzky’s XCC winning bike with what looks to be AXS lockout?? Or possibly flight attendant. The battery “piggyback” looks quite a bit different from the other flight attendant rear shocks. Also, what is the battery (I think) strapped to the seat
Just saw this on Sram’s IG yesterday. Victor Koretzky’s XCC winning bike with what looks to be AXS lockout?? Or possibly flight attendant. The battery “piggyback”...
Just saw this on Sram’s IG yesterday. Victor Koretzky’s XCC winning bike with what looks to be AXS lockout?? Or possibly flight attendant. The battery “piggyback” looks quite a bit different from the other flight attendant rear shocks. Also, what is the battery (I think) strapped to the seat
Just saw this on Sram’s IG yesterday. Victor Koretzky’s XCC winning bike with what looks to be AXS lockout?? Or possibly flight attendant. The battery “piggyback”...
Just saw this on Sram’s IG yesterday. Victor Koretzky’s XCC winning bike with what looks to be AXS lockout?? Or possibly flight attendant. The battery “piggyback” looks quite a bit different from the other flight attendant rear shocks. Also, what is the battery (I think) strapped to the seat
The battery under the seat is the AXS dropper, or did you mean the battery that seems to be strapped to the front of the seat tube where a bottle might normally be mounted? Is that part of the flight attendant? Not that I’m aware?
The battery under the seat is the AXS dropper, or did you mean the battery that seems to be strapped to the front of the seat...
The battery under the seat is the AXS dropper, or did you mean the battery that seems to be strapped to the front of the seat tube where a bottle might normally be mounted? Is that part of the flight attendant? Not that I’m aware?
The piece on the seat tube is the GPS tracker for the race.
See the Sid and Deluxe Flight Attendant at the Les Gets WC today, looks really refine so the release can be later this year or Spring 24. Seems to be a proto XC Williers on the paddock too. And finally Mavic is coming back with the Yellow on a new Deemax DH Ult and limited run on the Deemax Enduro (kinda looks like their Crossmax XLS but with burlier rims, 1920gr). And there will be a Deemax Bikepark, bit heavier than the Ult but for 450€ rrp
Devinci won’t leave the split-pivot, they just started using a high-pivot version of it.
Ibis is strictly on dw-link. Now, Evil leaving the delta-suspension and trying...
Devinci won’t leave the split-pivot, they just started using a high-pivot version of it.
Ibis is strictly on dw-link. Now, Evil leaving the delta-suspension and trying something new like a dw6 design would be great! All their bikes look the same and have been single-pivots for quite some time (cause that’s what the delta is - a single pivot design).
If evil leaves the delta who’s buying them?
the only reason I got one is the delta, the most fun platform on the market
Evil moving to DW-6 would definitely get me to consider them again. I was a die hard Evil fan for many years, I owned 4 of their frames in a row, then their “improvements” became so incremental that my eye started wondering to other brands. When they switched to Superboost it was the final mail in the coffin. Hopefully they have something new in the works that would get me to consider them again.
If you look at damping force as felt at the wheel for a given vertical wheel speed at 0mm and 60mm, there is a 56% increase for the wreckoning and a 21% increase for the enduro. This is due to the majority of the progression on the wreckoning happening early in travel. Personally I think this is where progressive suspension designs get the reputation for being less predictable. When you have a large change in leverage ratio over a short amount of travel the bike will react very differently with pretty small changes in wheel position. A ton of progression before the sag point does have a potential upside though. Riding trails where the wheel is predominantly falling into ruts/holes and rising back out can be smoothed out easier with this curve since you can tune for very low damping force at full droop while still having decent damping at the sag point.
All Pull linkage (im fairly certain) suspension develops S shaped leverage curves.
You could isolate the inflection point within the curve (think Commencal Supreme V4, Evil, Antidote Darkmatter, Deviate Claymore), or keep it outside the range of the suspension's operation (Norco Aurum HSP, Deviate Highlander), but yeah that's my general understanding as well.
And what’s so fun about the delta? It’s just a single-pivot design.
We’ll have you ever tried one?
also that dumb comment “marketing is a hell of a drug”
have you ever tried one @nskerb?
I tried one without knowing it was even a bike brand few years ago, it was a evil calling, not the best up, not the best down in being glued to the ground, although that ride was a party.
I tried more than 30 bikes from other famous and nice brands and while many were better in some aspects, none were as fun to ride.
so marketing have nothing to do with this, and “it’s just a single pivot” means nothing.
simple suspension scheme can be amazing if well tuned, but unless you try it’s hard to judge properly
I've been watching pits bits from Les gets and I noticed something interesting, Scott team is running Shimano drivetrains and as expected they use saint cranks (real ones not like Laurie lol) but they are also on ochain, so it seems to me they either bodged it somehow (and I find that very hard to believe that they would remove the spider and we're able to somehow reliably reattach suitable mounting interface back on the crank arm) or possibly new saint cranks will be the same as previous generation just with dm chainring. The video in question https://youtu.be/vHhBc61VPXo?si=m1mJAVWcw6ZXrgx9 Scott section starts at 2:25
I've been watching pits bits from Les gets and I noticed something interesting, Scott team is running Shimano drivetrains and as expected they use saint cranks...
I've been watching pits bits from Les gets and I noticed something interesting, Scott team is running Shimano drivetrains and as expected they use saint cranks (real ones not like Laurie lol) but they are also on ochain, so it seems to me they either bodged it somehow (and I find that very hard to believe that they would remove the spider and we're able to somehow reliably reattach suitable mounting interface back on the crank arm) or possibly new saint cranks will be the same as previous generation just with dm chainring. The video in question https://youtu.be/vHhBc61VPXo?si=m1mJAVWcw6ZXrgx9 Scott section starts at 2:25
New Bike shown here and in the next pic
Bike in the background and name on the box pretty hidden
It will be under the Heckler name from what I have heard.
Damper
Long time lurker, first time poster.
been keeping tabs on the new speshys, but also curious about a dreadnought V2. Had the Druid v2 out for a bit, and the DH has the same split rear triangle as the new Druid. Dreadnought surely to follow soon?
I will still need some time
That’s a shame. Have to wonder what role switching from $2k aluminum frames to $3k plastic frames played.
Just saw this on Sram’s IG yesterday. Victor Koretzky’s XCC winning bike with what looks to be AXS lockout?? Or possibly flight attendant. The battery “piggyback” looks quite a bit different from the other flight attendant rear shocks. Also, what is the battery (I think) strapped to the seat
screenshot from RRs IG, right side looks like normal grip2 damper, but no idea what‘s going on on the left side of his fork, maybe a coil 38 incomin?
That’s a BYB Telemetry top cap
Flight attendant.
thx, thought about that but haven‘t really seen it on an enduro bike before, so thought it must be something different.
The battery under the seat is the AXS dropper, or did you mean the battery that seems to be strapped to the front of the seat tube where a bottle might normally be mounted? Is that part of the flight attendant? Not that I’m aware?
The piece on the seat tube is the GPS tracker for the race.
Really!? Thanks that’s news to me, didn’t know they did that!
See the Sid and Deluxe Flight Attendant at the Les Gets WC today, looks really refine so the release can be later this year or Spring 24. Seems to be a proto XC Williers on the paddock too. And finally Mavic is coming back with the Yellow on a new Deemax DH Ult and limited run on the Deemax Enduro (kinda looks like their Crossmax XLS but with burlier rims, 1920gr). And there will be a Deemax Bikepark, bit heavier than the Ult but for 450€ rrp
If evil leaves the delta who’s buying them?
the only reason I got one is the delta, the most fun platform on the market
And what’s so fun about the delta? It’s just a single-pivot design.
Evil moving to DW-6 would definitely get me to consider them again. I was a die hard Evil fan for many years, I owned 4 of their frames in a row, then their “improvements” became so incremental that my eye started wondering to other brands. When they switched to Superboost it was the final mail in the coffin. Hopefully they have something new in the works that would get me to consider them again.
Marketing is a hell of a drug.
Single pivots are Hella fun, because they're bikes and they soak up bumps. Do you prefer hardtails?
The linkage generates a vaguely S-shaped leverage curve as shown below (source). That's it.
Edit: Also fun to note is that despite all of the Enduro's linkage complexity and marketing, there's nothing at all special about its leverage curve.
If you look at damping force as felt at the wheel for a given vertical wheel speed at 0mm and 60mm, there is a 56% increase for the wreckoning and a 21% increase for the enduro. This is due to the majority of the progression on the wreckoning happening early in travel. Personally I think this is where progressive suspension designs get the reputation for being less predictable. When you have a large change in leverage ratio over a short amount of travel the bike will react very differently with pretty small changes in wheel position. A ton of progression before the sag point does have a potential upside though. Riding trails where the wheel is predominantly falling into ruts/holes and rising back out can be smoothed out easier with this curve since you can tune for very low damping force at full droop while still having decent damping at the sag point.
All Pull linkage (im fairly certain) suspension develops S shaped leverage curves.
You could isolate the inflection point within the curve (think Commencal Supreme V4, Evil, Antidote Darkmatter, Deviate Claymore), or keep it outside the range of the suspension's operation (Norco Aurum HSP, Deviate Highlander), but yeah that's my general understanding as well.
We’ll have you ever tried one?
also that dumb comment “marketing is a hell of a drug”
have you ever tried one @nskerb?
I tried one without knowing it was even a bike brand few years ago, it was a evil calling, not the best up, not the best down in being glued to the ground, although that ride was a party.
I tried more than 30 bikes from other famous and nice brands and while many were better in some aspects, none were as fun to ride.
so marketing have nothing to do with this, and “it’s just a single pivot” means nothing.
simple suspension scheme can be amazing if well tuned, but unless you try it’s hard to judge properly
please keep it tech rumors, not over analysing kinematics and discussing it in here, there are separate threads for that.
thx!
I've been watching pits bits from Les gets and I noticed something interesting, Scott team is running Shimano drivetrains and as expected they use saint cranks (real ones not like Laurie lol) but they are also on ochain, so it seems to me they either bodged it somehow (and I find that very hard to believe that they would remove the spider and we're able to somehow reliably reattach suitable mounting interface back on the crank arm) or possibly new saint cranks will be the same as previous generation just with dm chainring. The video in question https://youtu.be/vHhBc61VPXo?si=m1mJAVWcw6ZXrgx9 Scott section starts at 2:25
Here it is. And Goldstone has one too on this post https://www.instagram.com/p/Cw_d3s8xp8f/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&ig…
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