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6/24/2023 1:53pm
JimmyK wrote:
Ibis HD6?

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Ibis HD6?

 Don’t know if it shows but yes, HD6

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 Don’t know if it shows but yes, HD6

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6/24/2023 7:22pm Edited Date/Time 6/24/2023 7:23pm
w4s wrote:
Saw the new Specialized Stumpy Evo yesterday at sky tavern bike park in Reno, predictably moved away from the cross strut and has same suspension design...

Saw the new Specialized Stumpy Evo yesterday at sky tavern bike park in Reno, predictably moved away from the cross strut and has same suspension design as the Levo SL.  Was a sexy poo brown color, wonder why it hasn't been released yet as it looked like a production bike.

krabo83 wrote:

why a new stumpy evo? the enduro is older and due for an update… maybe it was the new enduro?

New Status? New SJ Evo? New Enduro?

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Ct4UXhJqhPC/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link…

 

Looks very similar to Cannondale Habit as well...

 

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6/24/2023 9:07pm
w4s wrote:
Saw the new Specialized Stumpy Evo yesterday at sky tavern bike park in Reno, predictably moved away from the cross strut and has same suspension design...

Saw the new Specialized Stumpy Evo yesterday at sky tavern bike park in Reno, predictably moved away from the cross strut and has same suspension design as the Levo SL.  Was a sexy poo brown color, wonder why it hasn't been released yet as it looked like a production bike.

krabo83 wrote:

why a new stumpy evo? the enduro is older and due for an update… maybe it was the new enduro?

hogfly wrote:

New Status? New SJ Evo? New Enduro?

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Ct4UXhJqhPC/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link…

 

Looks very similar to Cannondale Habit as well...

 

I saw that today, too.

It could be a Status, but the whole point of the Status is it’s cheap because it re-uses tubing, linkage and hardware from previous model frames all cobbled together like Lego so tooling costs are massively cut down… so I feel like a ground up refresh would defeat the purpose. Definitely not a new Enduro from the rumblings I’ve heard, Enduro will continue on with a more wild linkage layout, not the yoke driven toptube mounted shock style. So all signs point to new Stumpy? Maybe just another weird one off like the DH bike, since whatever that thing is, is dressed for slalom.

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6/24/2023 9:35pm
 Saw it at the Intense Pits in Leogang, any Ideas?

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 Saw it at the Intense Pits in Leogang, any Ideas?

Spotted someone on an identical frame in creekside yesterday, also running Hunt wheels. Pretty certain it's a Privateer from the hardware and cable guide on the head tube. 

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I'm pretty sure there are welds on this frame, so... Status? Definitely not the current one, but the layout fits.

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6/25/2023 6:05am

Doesn’t look like it has a swat box either 

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6/25/2023 7:24am

the bike I saw was definintely carbon.

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6/25/2023 7:38am

The black bike in this thread has a number of Specialized details.  Saddle is Spec.  Tires look to be Cannibals.  Chainstay protector looks just like the one on my Levo, as does the rubber flap in between the CS & ST, and the yoke. 

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AndehM wrote:
The black bike in this thread has a number of Specialized details.  Saddle is Spec.  Tires look to be Cannibals.  Chainstay protector looks just like the...

The black bike in this thread has a number of Specialized details.  Saddle is Spec.  Tires look to be Cannibals.  Chainstay protector looks just like the one on my Levo, as does the rubber flap in between the CS & ST, and the yoke. 

And the pic was from Specialized Gravity IG.

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Interesting tidbit from Misspent Summers enduro coverage email…

Whispers from Eurobike: We know this isn’t enduro related content (ERC), but rumours travel fast when you get the entire bicycle industry in one place. You’ve probably heard about the industry over-stock crisis (brands, distributors and retailers got a bit excited with their order quantities during the Covid bicycle boom. Now things have slowed down drastically they’re left with either massive excess inventory or bills they can’t pay – or both). Unsurprisingly and unfortunately, it sounds like some big bike companies will be going deeper into full crisis mode or even shutting down completely by the end of 2023. We wish everyone the best of luck navigating the tricky times ahead

Any guesses as to who is in trouble?

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chriskief wrote:
Interesting tidbit from Misspent Summers enduro coverage email… Whispers from Eurobike: We know this isn’t enduro related content (ERC), but rumours travel fast when you get...

Interesting tidbit from Misspent Summers enduro coverage email…

Whispers from Eurobike: We know this isn’t enduro related content (ERC), but rumours travel fast when you get the entire bicycle industry in one place. You’ve probably heard about the industry over-stock crisis (brands, distributors and retailers got a bit excited with their order quantities during the Covid bicycle boom. Now things have slowed down drastically they’re left with either massive excess inventory or bills they can’t pay – or both). Unsurprisingly and unfortunately, it sounds like some big bike companies will be going deeper into full crisis mode or even shutting down completely by the end of 2023. We wish everyone the best of luck navigating the tricky times ahead

Any guesses as to who is in trouble?

I'd guess mid sized without financial support from a larger group.....

So-Marin,Devinci,Rocky Mountain,Norco.

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6/25/2023 11:05am Edited Date/Time 6/25/2023 11:07am

Norco is a part of the Live to Play Sports group.

EDIT: though considering Live to Play is a distributor of components in Canada... Yeah, might be a bit shakey.

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6/25/2023 11:17am

I would assume many of the big brands also have record profits from the pandemic and will find a way to be pretty successful at the current moment.  Certainly cutting back but not necessarily in trouble.

 

all these brands that got bought out at huge dollars based on “false” quarterly and yearly growth on the other hand I’d imagine may be in a different scenario.  Especially since most the buyers were large investment firms which are all taking a downturn in this market as well.

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6/25/2023 12:30pm

Im not convinced Marin is, I've seen them ramp up and they are working on a few bikes at the moment.
Their bikes seem to of come in small batches and all sold out. 

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6/25/2023 3:13pm
chriskief wrote:
Interesting tidbit from Misspent Summers enduro coverage email… Whispers from Eurobike: We know this isn’t enduro related content (ERC), but rumours travel fast when you get...

Interesting tidbit from Misspent Summers enduro coverage email…

Whispers from Eurobike: We know this isn’t enduro related content (ERC), but rumours travel fast when you get the entire bicycle industry in one place. You’ve probably heard about the industry over-stock crisis (brands, distributors and retailers got a bit excited with their order quantities during the Covid bicycle boom. Now things have slowed down drastically they’re left with either massive excess inventory or bills they can’t pay – or both). Unsurprisingly and unfortunately, it sounds like some big bike companies will be going deeper into full crisis mode or even shutting down completely by the end of 2023. We wish everyone the best of luck navigating the tricky times ahead

Any guesses as to who is in trouble?

Not just big brands, but you can look around at some of the sales going on right now and assume they need to just get some cash. I’ve been looking at a Revel because they have some stuff marked down like 20-25%

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6/25/2023 3:30pm
chriskief wrote:
Interesting tidbit from Misspent Summers enduro coverage email… Whispers from Eurobike: We know this isn’t enduro related content (ERC), but rumours travel fast when you get...

Interesting tidbit from Misspent Summers enduro coverage email…

Whispers from Eurobike: We know this isn’t enduro related content (ERC), but rumours travel fast when you get the entire bicycle industry in one place. You’ve probably heard about the industry over-stock crisis (brands, distributors and retailers got a bit excited with their order quantities during the Covid bicycle boom. Now things have slowed down drastically they’re left with either massive excess inventory or bills they can’t pay – or both). Unsurprisingly and unfortunately, it sounds like some big bike companies will be going deeper into full crisis mode or even shutting down completely by the end of 2023. We wish everyone the best of luck navigating the tricky times ahead

Any guesses as to who is in trouble?

gibbon wrote:

I'd guess mid sized without financial support from a larger group.....

So-Marin,Devinci,Rocky Mountain,Norco.

Oh boy, I worked at a dealer last year that carries all four of those. They (the dealer) were and probably still are stuck with excess inventory, but things will probably improve a bit with the summer season. Not sure on the companies' situations, though. 

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6/25/2023 5:13pm
Im not convinced Marin is, I've seen them ramp up and they are working on a few bikes at the moment. Their bikes seem to of...

Im not convinced Marin is, I've seen them ramp up and they are working on a few bikes at the moment.
Their bikes seem to of come in small batches and all sold out. 

They're also the house brand of a powerhouse bike manufacturer. I think they'll be fine.

P.S., It's kinda funny how the tech rumors thread - something you think would be very niche - has somehow turned into Vital's general thread

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6/25/2023 9:31pm
JimmyK wrote:
Ibis HD6?

image-20230624200818-1

Ibis HD6?

 Don’t know if it shows but yes, HD6

IMG 7212.png?VersionId=w8WeRyi.ZASNjLHGWwleaQgNn

 Don’t know if it shows but yes, HD6

nicompr wrote:
     

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Quite interested to see the geo on the HD6, does anyone know when it's being released? Must be any day now they've shown the production paint.

I think someone said it could run full 29er a few pages but so far I've only seen it being run as mullet and I can't see any flip chips from the screen grabs. Hopefully it can run both.

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6/25/2023 10:32pm Edited Date/Time 6/25/2023 10:33pm

IMG 1343  Looked to be a fox product  this was also on a bike with a proto float x with a battery   

 

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6/25/2023 10:36pm
Javigutz wrote:

Hi guys. Any hint /news for the Forbidden Dreadnought V2? 

Seeing as the Dreadnaught and Druid are the same rear end I can only imagine it’ll be exactly the same as the Druid with a longer shock.   I’m REALLY hopping for a 170-180 park bike! 

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6/25/2023 11:03pm
chriskief wrote:
Interesting tidbit from Misspent Summers enduro coverage email… Whispers from Eurobike: We know this isn’t enduro related content (ERC), but rumours travel fast when you get...

Interesting tidbit from Misspent Summers enduro coverage email…

Whispers from Eurobike: We know this isn’t enduro related content (ERC), but rumours travel fast when you get the entire bicycle industry in one place. You’ve probably heard about the industry over-stock crisis (brands, distributors and retailers got a bit excited with their order quantities during the Covid bicycle boom. Now things have slowed down drastically they’re left with either massive excess inventory or bills they can’t pay – or both). Unsurprisingly and unfortunately, it sounds like some big bike companies will be going deeper into full crisis mode or even shutting down completely by the end of 2023. We wish everyone the best of luck navigating the tricky times ahead

Any guesses as to who is in trouble?

Considering the feebacks from the shops (bike manufacturer, textile brands, accessories, etc. forcing the pre-orders in shops already jam packed) I would say it is faster to figure out who isn't in trouble really. 

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6/26/2023 3:30am
Javigutz wrote:

Hi guys. Any hint /news for the Forbidden Dreadnought V2? 

Seeing as the Dreadnaught and Druid are the same rear end I can only imagine it’ll be exactly the same as the Druid with a longer...

Seeing as the Dreadnaught and Druid are the same rear end I can only imagine it’ll be exactly the same as the Druid with a longer shock.   I’m REALLY hopping for a 170-180 park bike! 

They are moving away from single high pivot to an inverted horst-link high pivot, if i remember correctly, so the Druid, the Dreadnought and the dh-bike will all be the same suspension concept. Think some of their riders were seen on inverted horst-link enduro prototypes already, not Druids. Smile

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6/26/2023 7:24am
Javigutz wrote:

Hi guys. Any hint /news for the Forbidden Dreadnought V2? 

Seeing as the Dreadnaught and Druid are the same rear end I can only imagine it’ll be exactly the same as the Druid with a longer...

Seeing as the Dreadnaught and Druid are the same rear end I can only imagine it’ll be exactly the same as the Druid with a longer shock.   I’m REALLY hopping for a 170-180 park bike! 

They are moving away from single high pivot to an inverted horst-link high pivot, if i remember correctly, so the Druid, the Dreadnought and the dh-bike...

They are moving away from single high pivot to an inverted horst-link high pivot, if i remember correctly, so the Druid, the Dreadnought and the dh-bike will all be the same suspension concept. Think some of their riders were seen on inverted horst-link enduro prototypes already, not Druids. Smile

Lol what?  Have you even seen the new Druid that came out like a few weeks ago? 

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6/26/2023 10:12am

Lol what?  Have you even seen the new Druid that came out like a few weeks ago? 

The new druid is absolutely a high pivot inverted horst link.

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6/26/2023 11:59am
Javigutz wrote:

Hi guys. Any hint /news for the Forbidden Dreadnought V2? 

Initially, the Dreadnought came out a little less than a year after the Druid. Forbidden was still a new company at the time, not as established. Druid V2 was released in May. I would assume that an updated Dreadnought COULD be out before the end of the year. Use this post as a vote, thumbs up if you agree, thumbs down if you think it'll be 2024.

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6/26/2023 1:11pm

Bikes are so cool!!

Do you mean the new Maven or the DB8 or whatever E-bike brakes? I'm fairly certain you can't order the Maven yet.

New Codes.   I live in Spearfish, the same town as Quarq so…

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New Codes.   I live in Spearfish, the same town as Quarq so…

Interesting, feel like asking them when/if a new Shockwiz is being released or are they just gonna let it die?

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