Loic talked about the new Specialized DH rig on the Gypsy Tales podcast and mentioned that their linkages can be swapped out/changed to affect how reward (or not) the axle path is. Might just be for testing purpose and won't make it in the production bike. But interesting none the less and will allow them to easily dial in the perfect feel on the test mule.
I disagree, not a single person in my riding group is down for headset routed cables, most of us would prefer neatly done external given the option between headset and external routing.
I disagree, not a single person in my riding group is down for headset routed cables, most of us would prefer neatly done external given the...
I disagree, not a single person in my riding group is down for headset routed cables, most of us would prefer neatly done external given the option between headset and external routing.
I currently run fully external routing (the dropper hose enters the frame at the bottom of the seat tube). The next bike will likely be the same. I asked Propain yesterday (for a friend) if the Al Tyee can come with cables entering the downtube port instead of the headset from the factory as it would be stupid to have to replace the outers, cables and the rear brake hose just to have a normal setup.
The problem is I, you and your riding group are clearly not the average buyer. The average buyer buys with the eyes, not the head. Through headset routing (for better or worse) looks better. Therefore it will sell more. Even more so if it will be the default option when speccing a bike - most people won't change the spec and I doubt it's possible to change it after the fact because of the above mentioned hose length issue.
I think it might look cleaner, so it works when seeing it online or from some distance.
As soon as you're getting closer you start noticing ugly proportions and poorly executed details. I saw an UNNO dash in person recently and the cheap shitty looks of that cable entry at the headset would be a dealbreaker even if I was okay with headset routing.
pit bits from fort william BDS. most interesting is matt walker's proto and mention of atherton bikes running different flext patterns in the printed parts. some of the teams didn't want to give much up at this point. matt and the bike look so dialed in the riding footage. raw tomorrow
Probably a Strive that is small enough for Jesse.
Also some of the updates Fox made to the X2 according to their website
https://www.ridefox.com/family.php?m=bike&family=floatx2
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Probably a Strive that is small enough for Jesse.
Also some of the updates Fox made to the X2 according to their website
NEW base valve piston design and compression tune for increased damping performance and improved sensitivity
NEW bearing housing seal package virtually eliminates possibility of aeration
NEW scraper seal for improved durability
NEW more robust eyelet design on trunnion models
NEW 7000 series shock body on all models
NEW hard chrome damper shaft finish for increased durability
dunno if these „official“ points have been talked about here yet
I emailed fox Canada the other day about an aerated shock ( Im not the original owner) and they said they have a ‘fix for this trouble’ for $200cad. Haven’t sent it in yet though
pit bits from fort william BDS. most interesting is matt walker's proto and mention of atherton bikes running different flext patterns in the printed parts. some...
pit bits from fort william BDS. most interesting is matt walker's proto and mention of atherton bikes running different flext patterns in the printed parts. some of the teams didn't want to give much up at this point. matt and the bike look so dialed in the riding footage. raw tomorrow
On the Atherton flex experiment, I figured it was the same lugs with the flex tuned by changing the wall thickness or layup of the carbon tubes. I wonder.
pit bits from fort william BDS. most interesting is matt walker's proto and mention of atherton bikes running different flext patterns in the printed parts. some...
pit bits from fort william BDS. most interesting is matt walker's proto and mention of atherton bikes running different flext patterns in the printed parts. some of the teams didn't want to give much up at this point. matt and the bike look so dialed in the riding footage. raw tomorrow
Looking at the proto Saracen, it has a split pivot at the rear. What's up with the Split Pivot patent then? Trek shoed their variant at about the same time, supposedly giving them the ability to use the design royalty free, but what about Orbea and now Saracen? Is the SP patent US only?
EDIT: it appears to be so. Is Orbea sold in the US?
pit bits from fort william BDS. most interesting is matt walker's proto and mention of atherton bikes running different flext patterns in the printed parts. some...
pit bits from fort william BDS. most interesting is matt walker's proto and mention of atherton bikes running different flext patterns in the printed parts. some of the teams didn't want to give much up at this point. matt and the bike look so dialed in the riding footage. raw tomorrow
Looking at the proto Saracen, it has a split pivot at the rear. What's up with the Split Pivot patent then? Trek shoed their variant at...
Looking at the proto Saracen, it has a split pivot at the rear. What's up with the Split Pivot patent then? Trek shoed their variant at about the same time, supposedly giving them the ability to use the design royalty free, but what about Orbea and now Saracen? Is the SP patent US only?
EDIT: it appears to be so. Is Orbea sold in the US?
Looks like the same layout as the dh bike there are pictures of. There’s a pivot on rear triangle, can’t remember if on chain or brake stay.
Both colours look really good. Nice builds.
Looks like the same layout as the dh bike there are pictures of. There’s a pivot on rear triangle, can’t remember if on chain or brake...
Looks like the same layout as the dh bike there are pictures of. There’s a pivot on rear triangle, can’t remember if on chain or brake stay.
Both colours look really good. Nice builds.
pit bits from fort william BDS. most interesting is matt walker's proto and mention of atherton bikes running different flext patterns in the printed parts. some...
pit bits from fort william BDS. most interesting is matt walker's proto and mention of atherton bikes running different flext patterns in the printed parts. some of the teams didn't want to give much up at this point. matt and the bike look so dialed in the riding footage. raw tomorrow
Looking at the proto Saracen, it has a split pivot at the rear. What's up with the Split Pivot patent then? Trek shoed their variant at...
Looking at the proto Saracen, it has a split pivot at the rear. What's up with the Split Pivot patent then? Trek shoed their variant at about the same time, supposedly giving them the ability to use the design royalty free, but what about Orbea and now Saracen? Is the SP patent US only?
EDIT: it appears to be so. Is Orbea sold in the US?
It is (source: I worked at an Orbea dealer last summer). Devinci, Orbea, Hope, and Antidote all use it, to name a few off the top of my head.
Looks like the same layout as the dh bike there are pictures of. There’s a pivot on rear triangle, can’t remember if on chain or brake...
Looks like the same layout as the dh bike there are pictures of. There’s a pivot on rear triangle, can’t remember if on chain or brake stay.
Both colours look really good. Nice builds.
So the new bike will go with a much lower and more reasonable HP ? Riders were getting sick of getting pitched forward at the worst of times maybe ? Looks nice lets hope the finish and build quality matches the style of the bike, it might become a good contender.
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Loic talked about the new Specialized DH rig on the Gypsy Tales podcast and mentioned that their linkages can be swapped out/changed to affect how reward (or not) the axle path is. Might just be for testing purpose and won't make it in the production bike. But interesting none the less and will allow them to easily dial in the perfect feel on the test mule.
I disagree, not a single person in my riding group is down for headset routed cables, most of us would prefer neatly done external given the option between headset and external routing.
Why the notification counter doesn't work properly... !?
I currently run fully external routing (the dropper hose enters the frame at the bottom of the seat tube). The next bike will likely be the same. I asked Propain yesterday (for a friend) if the Al Tyee can come with cables entering the downtube port instead of the headset from the factory as it would be stupid to have to replace the outers, cables and the rear brake hose just to have a normal setup.
The problem is I, you and your riding group are clearly not the average buyer. The average buyer buys with the eyes, not the head. Through headset routing (for better or worse) looks better. Therefore it will sell more. Even more so if it will be the default option when speccing a bike - most people won't change the spec and I doubt it's possible to change it after the fact because of the above mentioned hose length issue.
I think it might look cleaner, so it works when seeing it online or from some distance.
As soon as you're getting closer you start noticing ugly proportions and poorly executed details. I saw an UNNO dash in person recently and the cheap shitty looks of that cable entry at the headset would be a dealbreaker even if I was okay with headset routing.
Vorsprung has been teasing what looks to be a shock, and their latest instagram post hints that they’ve collaborated with sprindex.
Gentlemen, what are we looking at here?
Canyon's shapeshifter?
Yep! https://www.canyon.com/on/demandware.static/-/Library-Sites-canyon-shar…
Yup
Probably a Strive that is small enough for Jesse.
Also some of the updates Fox made to the X2 according to their website
https://www.ridefox.com/family.php?m=bike&family=floatx2
NEW base valve piston design and compression tune for increased damping performance and improved sensitivity
NEW bearing housing seal package virtually eliminates possibility of aeration
NEW scraper seal for improved durability
NEW more robust eyelet design on trunnion models
NEW 7000 series shock body on all models
NEW hard chrome damper shaft finish for increased durability
dunno if these „official“ points have been talked about here yet
Virtual high pivot?
pit bits from fort william BDS. most interesting is matt walker's proto and mention of atherton bikes running different flext patterns in the printed parts. some of the teams didn't want to give much up at this point. matt and the bike look so dialed in the riding footage. raw tomorrow
I emailed fox Canada the other day about an aerated shock ( Im not the original owner) and they said they have a ‘fix for this trouble’ for $200cad. Haven’t sent it in yet though
On the Atherton flex experiment, I figured it was the same lugs with the flex tuned by changing the wall thickness or layup of the carbon tubes. I wonder.
Might be easier for them to adapt the wall thicknesses and fill ratios of the 3D printed parts to achieve a similar effect.
I know it has been mentioned already but are there any updates on the new boxxer release, shouldn’t it be spring/early 2023?
That’s about time now, a friend of mine is building up a new bike and it would be good to know if it’s worth it to wait for the new one.
Looking at the proto Saracen, it has a split pivot at the rear. What's up with the Split Pivot patent then? Trek shoed their variant at about the same time, supposedly giving them the ability to use the design royalty free, but what about Orbea and now Saracen? Is the SP patent US only?
EDIT: it appears to be so. Is Orbea sold in the US?
Yes, my LBS (in California) is a dealer.
Looks like the same layout as the dh bike there are pictures of. There’s a pivot on rear triangle, can’t remember if on chain or brake stay.
Both colours look really good. Nice builds.
It is (source: I worked at an Orbea dealer last summer). Devinci, Orbea, Hope, and Antidote all use it, to name a few off the top of my head.
So the new bike will go with a much lower and more reasonable HP ? Riders were getting sick of getting pitched forward at the worst of times maybe ? Looks nice lets hope the finish and build quality matches the style of the bike, it might become a good contender.
this bike was sporting the allready seen new vivid as well as the boxxer (both without the blackbox sticker)
Plus a rather interesting looking rocker![PXL 20230507 083824312.jpg?VersionId=rTkE8DTi44XOpOe8sbupLfrhzjG](https://p.vitalmtb.com/styles/s1200/s3/photos/inline/basic/PXL_20230507_083824312.jpg?VersionId=rTkE8DTi44XOpOe8sbupLfrhzjG.vkPH&itok=7tjwIQzY)
As if they used 5Dev cranks as rockers.
3d printed and designed using topology optimisation (removing the unneeded material).
The "new Vivid", could it be called Hyper Deluxe? 😜
A little off topic but where did you get this pic ? it looks like its been enhanced using AI aka Topaz Labs
Possibly just blown up to a 1:1 pixel size and we're seeing the effects of post processing.
The photo isn't original, someone added filters - modifications on it !
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