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4/26/2023 2:08am
TannerVal wrote:
My guess would be that the suntour made fork & shock body were the cheapest/easiest to source and that the internals are a completely custom affair...

My guess would be that the suntour made fork & shock body were the cheapest/easiest to source and that the internals are a completely custom affair. I’m not positive but I think ohlins used to do something similar until they invested in making their own lowers/uppers for their forks

EXT is doing that also. Their Era fork is actually the cassis from a XFusion Trace 36, but with a different steerer. It used to be that way anyways, maybe EXT has an exclusive design now.

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4/26/2023 2:13am

Tom and Pauline are starting their XC season this weekend. Will they be on the blacked out BMC again, or a new Pinerello? I'm sure Pauline posted something about getting used to a new team and new bike...

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4/26/2023 5:13am

Upcoming Boxxer confirmed it's 38 mm (or at least not 35 mm). Didn't have calipers handy to check it exactly though 🙂

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4/26/2023 6:48am

That new GX AXS pic got taken down quick

utmtbrider wrote:
 

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i have the new GX AXS spec'd on my new ride but it's not expected to show up until late June.  Not sure that means anything.

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4/26/2023 7:09am
Primoz wrote:

Upcoming Boxxer confirmed it's 38 mm (or at least not 35 mm). Didn't have calipers handy to check it exactly though 🙂

Any word on release date?

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I just checked it out in the flesh in San Remo, Canyon is testing there with Rock Shox. No idea about any other details. 

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4/26/2023 8:28am
othello wrote:
Tom and Pauline are starting their XC season this weekend. Will they be on the blacked out BMC again, or a new Pinerello? I'm sure Pauline...

Tom and Pauline are starting their XC season this weekend. Will they be on the blacked out BMC again, or a new Pinerello? I'm sure Pauline posted something about getting used to a new team and new bike...

She was talking about getting used to her new CX bike during the CX season. 

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4/26/2023 12:50pm

That new GX AXS pic got taken down quick

utmtbrider wrote:
 

gx axs 2.PNG?VersionId=etxAWXLQ

 

Ugh electronics, disgusting.

...

Now that that's out of the way: Very interesting to see them place the battery sort of inside the upper cage. Looks good.

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4/26/2023 3:58pm

That new GX AXS pic got taken down quick

utmtbrider wrote:
 

gx axs 2.PNG?VersionId=etxAWXLQ

 

FullSend wrote:
Ugh electronics, disgusting. ... Now that that's out of the way: Very interesting to see them place the battery sort of inside the upper cage. Looks...

Ugh electronics, disgusting.

...

Now that that's out of the way: Very interesting to see them place the battery sort of inside the upper cage. Looks good.

wonder what features they're leaving out to tier down? the freewheel pulley? think we'll be able to stomp on it without breaking? less AI-supported install/tuning? (I know it's not AI, it's a joke)

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utmtbrider wrote:
 

gx axs 2.PNG?VersionId=etxAWXLQ

 

FullSend wrote:
Ugh electronics, disgusting. ... Now that that's out of the way: Very interesting to see them place the battery sort of inside the upper cage. Looks...

Ugh electronics, disgusting.

...

Now that that's out of the way: Very interesting to see them place the battery sort of inside the upper cage. Looks good.

bnsleit wrote:
wonder what features they're leaving out to tier down? the freewheel pulley? think we'll be able to stomp on it without breaking? less AI-supported install/tuning? (I...

wonder what features they're leaving out to tier down? the freewheel pulley? think we'll be able to stomp on it without breaking? less AI-supported install/tuning? (I know it's not AI, it's a joke)

Def the freewheel pulley (XO doesn't have it either...), maybe more plastic parts? Bushings instead of bearings in the pulleys. GX AXS Eagle probably offers some clues...

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dolface wrote:
Def the freewheel pulley (XO doesn't have it either...), maybe more plastic parts? Bushings instead of bearings in the pulleys. GX AXS Eagle probably offers some...

Def the freewheel pulley (XO doesn't have it either...), maybe more plastic parts? Bushings instead of bearings in the pulleys. GX AXS Eagle probably offers some clues...

 It will still be 3-4x a linkglide group I see in my future.

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utmtbrider wrote:
 

gx axs 2.PNG?VersionId=etxAWXLQ

 

FullSend wrote:
Ugh electronics, disgusting. ... Now that that's out of the way: Very interesting to see them place the battery sort of inside the upper cage. Looks...

Ugh electronics, disgusting.

...

Now that that's out of the way: Very interesting to see them place the battery sort of inside the upper cage. Looks good.

bnsleit wrote:
wonder what features they're leaving out to tier down? the freewheel pulley? think we'll be able to stomp on it without breaking? less AI-supported install/tuning? (I...

wonder what features they're leaving out to tier down? the freewheel pulley? think we'll be able to stomp on it without breaking? less AI-supported install/tuning? (I know it's not AI, it's a joke)

supposedly the only difference is materials.

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4/27/2023 6:49am

Rough idea of how spesh demo prototype linkage might work. Essentially a 4 bar with an additional shock linkage. Link next to bb, and chainstay, would be a different shape for packaging, but pivot locations work. 

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4/27/2023 11:04am Edited Date/Time 4/27/2023 11:07am
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pros: looks like no headset cable routing

cons: might have to sell both kidneys this time

biking in 2023 is wild man

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    •    All new carbon frame, comes in mixed wheel configuration (compatible to 29 rear with no extra parts needed.) New kinematic with flatter leverage curve which provides more support and playfulness off the top, but plenty of control in rougher conditions. The headtube angle and bottom bracket height are both adjustable.
    •    New SRAM XX Eagle transmission
    •    New SRAM Code Stealth Ultimate brakes

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4/27/2023 11:14am

Observed this lever going to the new “code” caliper on a bike belonging to a Sram tech. Bleed port clearly states mineral oil

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Observed this lever going to the new “code” caliper on a bike belonging to a Sram tech. Bleed port clearly states mineral oil  

Observed this lever going to the new “code” caliper on a bike belonging to a Sram tech. Bleed port clearly states mineral oil

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I’ve seen a spec sheet for an upcoming bike that had the brakes called out as “Code RS DB”…seeing the DB8 is their only mineral oil brake, I’m guessing DB will be their nomenclature in regards to mineral oil brakes.

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Observed this lever going to the new “code” caliper on a bike belonging to a Sram tech. Bleed port clearly states mineral oil  

Observed this lever going to the new “code” caliper on a bike belonging to a Sram tech. Bleed port clearly states mineral oil

36FFBB17-1B5C-4395-BCE9-19E47C0045A7.jpeg?VersionId=K0Ziq0nW8qxZ0dNX

 

o rly? who would have thought!

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4/28/2023 6:58am
Seagrave7 wrote:

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SJ Evo adjustability but doesn’t need links to switch from mx to 29 :thumbs up:

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othello wrote:
Tom and Pauline are starting their XC season this weekend. Will they be on the blacked out BMC again, or a new Pinerello? I'm sure Pauline...

Tom and Pauline are starting their XC season this weekend. Will they be on the blacked out BMC again, or a new Pinerello? I'm sure Pauline posted something about getting used to a new team and new bike...

She was talking about getting used to her new CX bike during the CX season. 

Tom was on a new MTB today for the short track in France

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This isn't a "SpayHot"... it's almost a full review... L☻L !

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