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Primoz
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3/2/2023 8:52am

Geezus, you guys are killing me. First the WAN show crossing into the 3 and then 4 hour territory, now Vital... -_-

There goes my evening.

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Primoz
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3/2/2023 10:56am

DONE!

Regarding the pedal vs. tuck speed and signaling to the rider... What part of it is illegal? Any signalization? Either a light or a speed chime?
For any followers of JDM culture, I'm sure you'll be aware of this gem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TLwn1BGscs

But yeah, tucking vs. pedaling most definitely works and saves your legs a bit.

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mntnmrtn
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3/2/2023 12:15pm
sspomer wrote:
inside line ride along w/ john hall, team robot, schroeder, simonetti and me is up now. tons of rad bike nerd stuff. it' only 3 hours...

inside line ride along w/ john hall, team robot, schroeder, simonetti and me is up now. tons of rad bike nerd stuff. it' only 3 hours 15 mins, so we couldn't cover everything : ) video or podcast channel

https://www.vitalmtb.com/features/john-hall-inside-line-ride-along-ep-2

Thanks sspomer! Make it 4-5 hours if you want, the longer the better Smile

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brash
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3/2/2023 1:00pm
brash wrote:

is the 2023 Super Deluxe that good? When this DHX2 blows up again (inevitable) I'd consider one, stock in Aus is nil however. Rocking horse shit.

Have you tried Cyclinic? 

First port of call, sold out.

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BrambleLee
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3/2/2023 4:19pm
sharpy212 wrote:
Any day now…..

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Any day now…..

I think that's a Zipp decal we can partially see on the rim in this pic—maybe a new lightweight XC oriented wheel? Of course, with those thin stays and no visible chainslap protection, this is probably a gravel rig, so maybe a Zipp sticker doesn't hint at anything new at all.

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3/2/2023 5:27pm
sharpy212 wrote:
Any day now…..

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Any day now…..

BrambleLee wrote:
I think that's a Zipp decal we can partially see on the rim in this pic—maybe a new lightweight XC oriented wheel? Of course, with those...

I think that's a Zipp decal we can partially see on the rim in this pic—maybe a new lightweight XC oriented wheel? Of course, with those thin stays and no visible chainslap protection, this is probably a gravel rig, so maybe a Zipp sticker doesn't hint at anything new at all.

looking at the angle of the seat-stay and lack of anything like a pivot, that's most likely a Zipp 303s on a 1X gravel/cxc bike

Don't look for the new Eagle release in the next week or so, there's a bit more time.

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chriskief
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3/2/2023 6:08pm

With all the talk of AXS only for new direct mount, interesting that the 2021 patent drawing shows a cable.

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Big Bird
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3/2/2023 7:50pm

Wouldn't it be amazing if we got the best of both worlds? The precise, quick shifting of the AXS if you want, as well as the option of using a cable. One product for everyone.

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sharpy212
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3/2/2023 10:27pm Edited Date/Time 3/2/2023 10:37pm
sharpy212 wrote:
Any day now…..

F7331A1F-4CF2-4FB7-B013-E2D615B26CF4.png?VersionId=4fUvGuydX2kDwzNZ

Any day now…..

BrambleLee wrote:
I think that's a Zipp decal we can partially see on the rim in this pic—maybe a new lightweight XC oriented wheel? Of course, with those...

I think that's a Zipp decal we can partially see on the rim in this pic—maybe a new lightweight XC oriented wheel? Of course, with those thin stays and no visible chainslap protection, this is probably a gravel rig, so maybe a Zipp sticker doesn't hint at anything new at all.

The screenshot is of a gravel bike using an eagle cassette and mech. that’s the new eagle axs groupset…. Not a prototype… that’s the finished thing. 
 

also noticed that have just become a member to the forum today and this is your first post on the forum. Welcome! What’s it like working for such a big component brand?  🥸

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nicompr
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3/3/2023 3:38am

Gravel bikes use 12 speed Eagle?

dolface wrote:

Mine does! It's a pretty popular setup, also confusingly called a "mullet drivetrain": https://www.sram.com/en/life/stories/the-SRAM-AXS-mullet-build

boozed wrote:
It annoys me a bit that the only way to get a 10-5x cassette onto a drop bar bike and have it properly integrated with the...

It annoys me a bit that the only way to get a 10-5x cassette onto a drop bar bike and have it properly integrated with the controls is SRAM AXS.

Check out ratio technology

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3/3/2023 5:25am

On the pink site yesterday there was a pix of a strange looking Norco Sight. Whats going on with this? p4pb20947508

 Is this old news and I'm now just catching on? 

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3/3/2023 6:25am
Dave_Camp wrote:
10/10 Noah   I did do some math and stared at a dyno for a long time.  It's frustrating to read stuff stated as fact that...

10/10 Noah

 

I did do some math and stared at a dyno for a long time.  It's frustrating to read stuff stated as fact that is not correct. 

Especially when the stated goal and result of the product is to independently tune high speed and low speed with our affecting each other. I’ll trust the actual engineer, not the “forum scientists.”

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lloyd506
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On the pink site yesterday there was a pix of a strange looking Norco Sight. Whats going on with this?   Is this old news and I'm...

On the pink site yesterday there was a pix of a strange looking Norco Sight. Whats going on with this? p4pb20947508

 Is this old news and I'm now just catching on? 

Sight ebike

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BrambleLee
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3/3/2023 12:19pm
sharpy212 wrote:
The screenshot is of a gravel bike using an eagle cassette and mech. that’s the new eagle axs groupset…. Not a prototype… that’s the finished thing. ...

The screenshot is of a gravel bike using an eagle cassette and mech. that’s the new eagle axs groupset…. Not a prototype… that’s the finished thing. 
 

also noticed that have just become a member to the forum today and this is your first post on the forum. Welcome! What’s it like working for such a big component brand?  🥸

Thanks! Long time lurker, first time poster. It's nice to be here...

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Noeserd
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3/3/2023 12:32pm

6 grand? damn

That frame better last as much as a dirtbike

boozed
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3/3/2023 1:21pm Edited Date/Time 3/3/2023 11:42pm
dolface wrote:

Mine does! It's a pretty popular setup, also confusingly called a "mullet drivetrain": https://www.sram.com/en/life/stories/the-SRAM-AXS-mullet-build

boozed wrote:
It annoys me a bit that the only way to get a 10-5x cassette onto a drop bar bike and have it properly integrated with the...

It annoys me a bit that the only way to get a 10-5x cassette onto a drop bar bike and have it properly integrated with the controls is SRAM AXS.

nicompr wrote:

Check out ratio technology

Thanks, I wasn't aware of Ratio.

However I need something to make Shimano integrated shifters work with an existing Shimano 1x12 MTB groupset.  So far I haven't found anything that isn't a hack job.  I don't think there's one of those little cable pull ratio adjusters for such a setup yet.

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Primoz
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3/3/2023 1:31pm

Is it just me getting jaded or is 6 grand for what is more or less a one-off frame and a bit out there feature wise not THAT outlandish? Haven't we seen less for more?

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ShapeThings
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3/3/2023 1:42pm Edited Date/Time 3/3/2023 1:43pm
Primoz wrote:
Is it just me getting jaded or is 6 grand for what is more or less a one-off frame and a bit out there feature wise...

Is it just me getting jaded or is 6 grand for what is more or less a one-off frame and a bit out there feature wise not THAT outlandish? Haven't we seen less for more?

It's very much outlandish, hahaha. But it is Australian made and they've put tons of hours into developing it, so I understand the costs involved. 

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nskerb
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3/3/2023 1:51pm

It's just a dressed up single pivot that can accept a gearbox; which no reasonable person will ever want. So yeah its pretty outlandish. Give me a complete meta that does the same job.  

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Primoz
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3/3/2023 2:01pm

a) It's a DH bike, not an enduro.
b) It's a high pivot horst link.

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