I do not discuss the fact it will be called Sensor, this doesn't change the fact that the main/only obvious difference between the current Force/Sensor is...
I do not discuss the fact it will be called Sensor, this doesn't change the fact that the main/only obvious difference between the current Force/Sensor is the slimed down top tube. The rest looks very similar, suspension system included. Considering that the current Force/Sensor were not really successful I was expecting more changes. And considering how little has changed it is also very surprising how long it is taking them to release that bikes that we've known about for (more than ?) a year now.
Hmm, commercially maybe not.
The Force was a good race bike (Maes) but as the Sensor had reasoqbly good reviews but fell short componentry/spec-wise. I never rode one
I'd also say the first generation of the current sensor was early on the "Trail-bike-train". With smart updates on the geometry and the ability to adapt to different travel options they'd have what currently everyone is chasing after, and is probably the most sold bike category. I also think it looks good too.
I've been told they (GT) went through a restructuring process, and according to the most recent post that they will be a standalone business again (still owned), so that indicates in fact changes.
He mentioned in the comments on his Insta that it was his telemetry.. Did we ever hear why he's on Spectral and not Strive? I asked...
He mentioned in the comments on his Insta that it was his telemetry.. Did we ever hear why he's on Spectral and not Strive? I asked him on that same post. Hopefully he will respond with his reasons
Because there may or may not be a new Enduro rig coming...
P.S don't tell anyone but there's a new bike coming.
I do not discuss the fact it will be called Sensor, this doesn't change the fact that the main/only obvious difference between the current Force/Sensor is...
I do not discuss the fact it will be called Sensor, this doesn't change the fact that the main/only obvious difference between the current Force/Sensor is the slimed down top tube. The rest looks very similar, suspension system included. Considering that the current Force/Sensor were not really successful I was expecting more changes. And considering how little has changed it is also very surprising how long it is taking them to release that bikes that we've known about for (more than ?) a year now.
Hmm, commercially maybe not.
The Force was a good race bike (Maes) but as the Sensor had reasoqbly good reviews but fell short componentry/spec-wise. I never rode...
Hmm, commercially maybe not.
The Force was a good race bike (Maes) but as the Sensor had reasoqbly good reviews but fell short componentry/spec-wise. I never rode one
I'd also say the first generation of the current sensor was early on the "Trail-bike-train". With smart updates on the geometry and the ability to adapt to different travel options they'd have what currently everyone is chasing after, and is probably the most sold bike category. I also think it looks good too.
I've been told they (GT) went through a restructuring process, and according to the most recent post that they will be a standalone business again (still owned), so that indicates in fact changes.
Logo also looks different.
The previous sensor was a great “do it all” bike. It was a touch overbuilt for the travel bracket it was in but didn’t falter when pushed harder than it was intended to be ridden since it shared the same front triangle as the same generation force. If the new one is even just a marginal improvement on the old it’ll be a great bike for anyone looking for a predictable & relatively low maintenance bike.
He mentioned in the comments on his Insta that it was his telemetry.. Did we ever hear why he's on Spectral and not Strive? I asked...
He mentioned in the comments on his Insta that it was his telemetry.. Did we ever hear why he's on Spectral and not Strive? I asked him on that same post. Hopefully he will respond with his reasons
Because there may or may not be a new Enduro rig coming...
P.S don't tell anyone but there's a new bike coming...
Because there may or may not be a new Enduro rig coming...
P.S don't tell anyone but there's a new bike coming.
From Canyon? A completely new enduro race bike? Very unlikely.
They're working on a new super secret rear shock with integrated shapeshifter system. There might be a minor revision to the Strive, maybe with a different rocker arm to accomodate said new shock, but an entirely new frame is very unlikely. I haven't heard anything about a new bike and I would have.
But what I have heard is that there will definitley be a version of the Strive with a slightly heavier but cheaper frame. My contact didn't want to tell me when to expect it, but it will come.
God, not only is the reservoir butted up against the handlebar, the hose points up as well, making it impossible to route the hoses normally if you're not batshit crazy and don't go for a through-headset routed bike.
As for FR1500, DTs FR wheels never fit the naming conventions of the 1900, 1700, 1501 and 1200 series. The current FR wheelset is the 1950 and comes with Jbend hubs and spokes, unlike the rest of the factory wheelsets.
The 'new Vivid'... A theory. I kind of doubt the shock will be called a Vivid. Not with the Super Deluxes being recently refreshed, including the coil variant together with the air variant. So is this what the Super Deluxe Air DH should be (the actual DH variant just drops the lockout)?
The catch is, the air super deluxe has the reservoir body to piggyback orientation opposite to what the coil has. And the air Vivid, Float X2, Cane Creek DB Air and other similar shocks came about by 'slapping an air spring onto a coil shock'. The main difference caused by the different orientations of the air spring between the coil and air Super Deluxe is the adjustable HBO on the coil variant. This is not possible as the needle is mounted in the bottom of the damper body in the air variant. Flipping around the air spring would enable the HBO to be adjustable.
No idea about the naming, might be a Vivid, might be something else entirely (Totem vs. Zeb), but looking at it in the video Jack's shock does actually have a lockout as well.
If the new Boxxer is supposedly getting unveiled fairly soon, I can't see this not being released with it. It will be interesting to see where it slots in.
From the Trek XC racing team camp video that dropped today.
New XC race bike/bikes coming soon.
I've heard team riders have been unhappy with Trek's...
From the Trek XC racing team camp video that dropped today.
New XC race bike/bikes coming soon.
I've heard team riders have been unhappy with Trek's bike options for worldcup XC racing. Basically only have the Supercaliber or a hardtail. The current Supercaliber is as heavy as a 120mm bike but only offering up 60mm of travel. Since they're hyping the Supercaliber in the video that means a new one is coming. I'm assuming it will be ~80mm of travel and good bit lighter. Also believe they HAVE to bring out a super light 100 or 120mm XC/downcountry bike. That is a gaping hole in their lineup and a tool their World Cup XC riders need badly to keep up with the modern 100-120 bikes out there on the circuit.
It wasn't a great look when the same year the Supercaliber came out, I believe Orbea and/or Specialized came out with their respective 100mm full suspension...
It wasn't a great look when the same year the Supercaliber came out, I believe Orbea and/or Specialized came out with their respective 100mm full suspension XC bikes that were lighter than the 60mm Supercaliber. It was a unique concept, but I don't think it necessarily offered any significant advantages over a traditional full suspension layout in the end. Another issue (that wasn't a problem for the pros) was that the Supercaliber was never offered in alloy and was expensive, so as a shop you didn't have much to offer younger racers other than a hardtail or a 'downcountry' bike.
While there is room in the lineup now for a revised full sus XC bike, I don't know if there is room for it and a Supercaliber. The Supercaliber has only been in the lineup for one model cycle (so maybe they want to recoup costs on development and keep it), but I would think they either offer it in longer (80-100mm) travel or more likely they scrap it and make a 'traditional' XC full suspension in the same range. I could be completely wrong though.
they are probably also trying to fix the seatstay problem, all these bikes are cracking at the same place in the seatstays, its happened to me once and a friend twice (in two years). Its at the point that they are just handing out rear triangles for free!
Santa Cruz throwing some shade on their instagram. Any ideas which brand? If I had to guess I’d say nukeproof but it’s hard to say.
...
Santa Cruz throwing some shade on their instagram. Any ideas which brand? If I had to guess I’d say nukeproof but it’s hard to say.
Santa Cruz acting like they make some high quality frames because they don't glue in liners but at the same time show a void in their carbon which the unnamed frame does not have. The glued in liners might not be pretty, but at least they don't play a part in the frame's integrity
The carbon on that mystery cut bike looks really well consolidated. Who cares if the glue squeezed out a bit? Don't be a dick santa cruz
Or better yet, maybe they can actually supply the frames ordered…. Instead of releasing a new frame every month and not being able to deliver frames/bikes(at least here in Europe)
He mentioned in the comments on his Insta that it was his telemetry.. Did we ever hear why he's on Spectral and not Strive? I asked...
He mentioned in the comments on his Insta that it was his telemetry.. Did we ever hear why he's on Spectral and not Strive? I asked him on that same post. Hopefully he will respond with his reasons
I really liked the Strive platform, the suspension really impressed me and I think the shapeshifter is cool for big days on the bike. BUT, having raced in Tasmania before I felt like the Spectral would be better suited for those rounds with it being more nimble, for me. With the long break after the first block I think I'll have plenty of time to get used to the Strive for the Euro rounds.
Saracen with a bag on their bike. That teams media presence is so poor they probably didn't even need to bother with the bag. Regardless, proto frame under there.
Some more traditional style rims coming from zipp? Can’t tell if they’re carbon or aluminum, wondering if zipp is gonna try to sell something to compete...
Some more traditional style rims coming from zipp? Can’t tell if they’re carbon or aluminum, wondering if zipp is gonna try to sell something to compete with the new reserve alloy wheelsets.
This is a nice added bonus to what is already going to be a busy year for SRAM releases. New Eagle, then the Sid line, and the Boxxer. Eagle release, a couple of months to cool off, then bam, another release, and then another.
Hmm, commercially maybe not.
The Force was a good race bike (Maes) but as the Sensor had reasoqbly good reviews but fell short componentry/spec-wise. I never rode one
I'd also say the first generation of the current sensor was early on the "Trail-bike-train". With smart updates on the geometry and the ability to adapt to different travel options they'd have what currently everyone is chasing after, and is probably the most sold bike category. I also think it looks good too.
I've been told they (GT) went through a restructuring process, and according to the most recent post that they will be a standalone business again (still owned), so that indicates in fact changes.
Logo also looks different.
Polished code caliper.
Because there may or may not be a new Enduro rig coming...
P.S don't tell anyone but there's a new bike coming.
FR 1500 branded…
If that‘s the name of the new wheelset it doesn‘t really fit into DT‘s lineup - let‘s see.
The previous sensor was a great “do it all” bike. It was a touch overbuilt for the travel bracket it was in but didn’t falter when pushed harder than it was intended to be ridden since it shared the same front triangle as the same generation force. If the new one is even just a marginal improvement on the old it’ll be a great bike for anyone looking for a predictable & relatively low maintenance bike.
From Canyon? A completely new enduro race bike? Very unlikely.
They're working on a new super secret rear shock with integrated shapeshifter system. There might be a minor revision to the Strive, maybe with a different rocker arm to accomodate said new shock, but an entirely new frame is very unlikely. I haven't heard anything about a new bike and I would have.
But what I have heard is that there will definitley be a version of the Strive with a slightly heavier but cheaper frame. My contact didn't want to tell me when to expect it, but it will come.
Rock Shox must be dropping the new vivid air any day now, the latest Moi Moi TV covering shock testing has it right out there in the open.
https://youtu.be/k8oD2GO_k9Y?t=510
God, not only is the reservoir butted up against the handlebar, the hose points up as well, making it impossible to route the hoses normally if you're not batshit crazy and don't go for a through-headset routed bike.
As for FR1500, DTs FR wheels never fit the naming conventions of the 1900, 1700, 1501 and 1200 series. The current FR wheelset is the 1950 and comes with Jbend hubs and spokes, unlike the rest of the factory wheelsets.
Looks like just paint job
The 'new Vivid'... A theory. I kind of doubt the shock will be called a Vivid. Not with the Super Deluxes being recently refreshed, including the coil variant together with the air variant. So is this what the Super Deluxe Air DH should be (the actual DH variant just drops the lockout)?
The catch is, the air super deluxe has the reservoir body to piggyback orientation opposite to what the coil has. And the air Vivid, Float X2, Cane Creek DB Air and other similar shocks came about by 'slapping an air spring onto a coil shock'. The main difference caused by the different orientations of the air spring between the coil and air Super Deluxe is the adjustable HBO on the coil variant. This is not possible as the needle is mounted in the bottom of the damper body in the air variant. Flipping around the air spring would enable the HBO to be adjustable.
No idea about the naming, might be a Vivid, might be something else entirely (Totem vs. Zeb), but looking at it in the video Jack's shock does actually have a lockout as well.
Crazy thinking? There is no coil shock being ridden unreleased to go along with it. Plus, there's a good shot of it in Jack's video at 9:17-ish ( https://youtu.be/k8oD2GO_k9Y?t=558 ):
https://i.imgur.com/IOZYVbN.jpeg
Vs. the coil: https://i.imgur.com/HlqNC9A.png
If the new Boxxer is supposedly getting unveiled fairly soon, I can't see this not being released with it. It will be interesting to see where it slots in.
Dont for get that when the current version was spotted as a prototype it had a similar paint job.https://www.pinkbike.com/news/specialized-enduro-crankworx-whistler-2019.html
am i seeing external cups on the headset?
they are probably also trying to fix the seatstay problem, all these bikes are cracking at the same place in the seatstays, its happened to me once and a friend twice (in two years). Its at the point that they are just handing out rear triangles for free!
Santa Cruz throwing some shade on their instagram. Any ideas which brand? If I had to guess I’d say nukeproof but it’s hard to say.
Oh the through-frame cable routing is made of carbon, well I guess that explains why they’re so much fucking money. Who cares?
Answering my own question - I actually think it’s a Jekyll. Sorry nukeproof, I’m sure your frames are pretty inside.
If this is the case I wonder if he’ll get a slap on the wrists seeing as they’re all buddies at pon nowadays?
Edit: the height that the cable ports enter the frame at don’t quite line up with the Jekyll either.
Santa Cruz acting like they make some high quality frames because they don't glue in liners but at the same time show a void in their carbon which the unnamed frame does not have. The glued in liners might not be pretty, but at least they don't play a part in the frame's integrity
Now I only got a C+ in high school geometry but that doesn’t seem correct.
That tool cut off the worst part of the frame good job. Take your cup in carbon and and your superior cable tubes down the road
All I see is new brakes with older groupset.
The carbon on that mystery cut bike looks really well consolidated. Who cares if the glue squeezed out a bit? Don't be a dick santa cruz
Or better yet, maybe they can actually supply the frames ordered…. Instead of releasing a new frame every month and not being able to deliver frames/bikes(at least here in Europe)
Alu Demo prototype under Jordan Williams?
I really liked the Strive platform, the suspension really impressed me and I think the shapeshifter is cool for big days on the bike. BUT, having raced in Tasmania before I felt like the Spectral would be better suited for those rounds with it being more nimble, for me. With the long break after the first block I think I'll have plenty of time to get used to the Strive for the Euro rounds.
Am I seeing a void in the carbon layup in the right bottom part?
Saracen with a bag on their bike. That teams media presence is so poor they probably didn't even need to bother with the bag. Regardless, proto frame under there.
This is a nice added bonus to what is already going to be a busy year for SRAM releases. New Eagle, then the Sid line, and the Boxxer. Eagle release, a couple of months to cool off, then bam, another release, and then another.
Backlog of releases held up by the pandemic and then desperate spamming to try and invigorate aftermarket sales.
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