It's the same fork we saw as nicknamed Era USD to Ferro, here you can see it with stanchion guards, as the Instagram post hints it's a fork intended for light motorcycles and electric motorcycles. d later
Interesting, I hope they will improve the engagement.
For some reason the pictures were removed from Pinkbike.
I see a clip keeps the pawls and springs...
Interesting, I hope they will improve the engagement.
For some reason the pictures were removed from Pinkbike.
I see a clip keeps the pawls and springs in place, so you won't lose them if you drop the freehub.
The video is still up.
Great stuff: spare parts guaranteed for 10 years after product is discontinued.
“For some reason the pics were removed from Pinkbike” - the reason being that there’s an embargo on the release, which true to form they ignore...
“For some reason the pics were removed from Pinkbike” - the reason being that there’s an embargo on the release, which true to form they ignore by “accidentally” posting stuff to open pages while they prepare their articles…time and time again. “Oh we’re sorry this happened….again… [insert facepalm]…”
Hope has posted it on their social media yesterday, sb also posted pics of the trailer with huge model of a hub on a hanger. so in UK you might see a huge PRO 5 hub in traffic.
I see the engagement has greatly increased: 3.3 degrees.
Hope has always claimed they do what they do to have strongest, most reliable hub they can, so the engagement suffered, but this looks promising, but maybe it's strong enough on the Pro 5. For me reliability, durability, and engagement is important, I considered Onyx, due to the engagement.
But for the cheaper but reliable hubs, Hope is back at the top in competition, no longer the least engagement.
Like the idea of silent hubs, anyone use the onyx ones? What’s the bearing life like? And why did Shimano ditch there plans to release a silent hub, remember seeing some being tested by various media outlets. then the idea was scrapped.
Like the idea of silent hubs, anyone use the onyx ones? What’s the bearing life like? And why did Shimano ditch there plans to release a...
Like the idea of silent hubs, anyone use the onyx ones? What’s the bearing life like? And why did Shimano ditch there plans to release a silent hub, remember seeing some being tested by various media outlets. then the idea was scrapped.
I can't seem to find the article anymore, but I'm pretty sure the 'Sylence' hubs were dropped because of manufacturing/reliability issues. I think it had something to do with the hubs getting 'too expensive' if the quality control was at the level they wanted, but that could be hearsay. That was also around the time that Shimano had that big factory fire which may have put a dent into any new products and developments.
Like the idea of silent hubs, anyone use the onyx ones? What’s the bearing life like? And why did Shimano ditch there plans to release a...
Like the idea of silent hubs, anyone use the onyx ones? What’s the bearing life like? And why did Shimano ditch there plans to release a silent hub, remember seeing some being tested by various media outlets. then the idea was scrapped.
I have a set of wheels with Onyx hubs for six years now (with ceramic bearings). Little hub service (open/clean/re grease) intervals at 1.5 / 2 years and had to change the bearings after 4 years. Sparg clutch and every other parts are still in perfect condition. Onyx hubs are quite on the heavy side with 473 g. for a standard 148 boost rear hub.
For silent hubs, another option is the new Tairin silent hubs recently released (360 g.), with a disengaging Chris King or DT system. Or else is the Box component stealth hub with unidirectional bearings (500 g. and never saw a review of those).
Like the idea of silent hubs, anyone use the onyx ones? What’s the bearing life like? And why did Shimano ditch there plans to release a...
Like the idea of silent hubs, anyone use the onyx ones? What’s the bearing life like? And why did Shimano ditch there plans to release a silent hub, remember seeing some being tested by various media outlets. then the idea was scrapped.
They are really heavy and about half of the people with them say they explode all the time, other half say they are maintenance free.
The instant engagement feels really different to anything else conventional. Like it has a little bit of a soft start/sponge-y feel while still being instant.
It's very possible the sponginess comes from the pawls deforming... They are much more perpendicular to the two rings than the orientation of a pawl in a standard freehub in order for the compression force (through the wedge mecahnism) is high enough for the pawl not to slip. That angle of orientation means even a small deformation means a relatively big rotation of the two rings relative to each other (compared to a standard pawl) and the higher compressive forces on the pawls also mean they deform more (giving even more of a relative rotation between the two). Therefore the sponginess.
Like the idea of silent hubs, anyone use the onyx ones? What’s the bearing life like? And why did Shimano ditch there plans to release a...
Like the idea of silent hubs, anyone use the onyx ones? What’s the bearing life like? And why did Shimano ditch there plans to release a silent hub, remember seeing some being tested by various media outlets. then the idea was scrapped.
I got the OG Onyx hubs [450g] in 2018 for a new build, rode them happily for 3 seasons and sold them with the bike in late 2020. AFAIK they're still being used by the new owner on his park/shuttle rig.
I got the Onyx Vespers [371g] in 2020 for my new bike, and they have been so good, I picked up another set to go on a Spur that I'm building up. I thought my front bearings were starting to go bad at the end of last park season, but it was just dirt.
If you're a heavy and/or strong rider, go with the heavier Onyx hubs, as there is a possibility you might break the lighter Vesper version.
The Tairin S1 is a new hub on the market, and comes in at 360g. I haven't used them, but Jose [Tairin's owner and engineer] makes a quality product, and if he says they're solid, I'd believe him.
Like the idea of silent hubs, anyone use the onyx ones? What’s the bearing life like? And why did Shimano ditch there plans to release a...
Like the idea of silent hubs, anyone use the onyx ones? What’s the bearing life like? And why did Shimano ditch there plans to release a silent hub, remember seeing some being tested by various media outlets. then the idea was scrapped.
I had the onyx classics for 2 years. blew through 3 freehub bearings and the axle will occasionally unthread itself even with Loctite. Im on hydra now, much happier
Like the idea of silent hubs, anyone use the onyx ones? What’s the bearing life like? And why did Shimano ditch there plans to release a...
Like the idea of silent hubs, anyone use the onyx ones? What’s the bearing life like? And why did Shimano ditch there plans to release a silent hub, remember seeing some being tested by various media outlets. then the idea was scrapped.
I got the OG Onyx hubs [450g] in 2018 for a new build, rode them happily for 3 seasons and sold them with the bike in...
I got the OG Onyx hubs [450g] in 2018 for a new build, rode them happily for 3 seasons and sold them with the bike in late 2020. AFAIK they're still being used by the new owner on his park/shuttle rig.
I got the Onyx Vespers [371g] in 2020 for my new bike, and they have been so good, I picked up another set to go on a Spur that I'm building up. I thought my front bearings were starting to go bad at the end of last park season, but it was just dirt.
If you're a heavy and/or strong rider, go with the heavier Onyx hubs, as there is a possibility you might break the lighter Vesper version.
The Tairin S1 is a new hub on the market, and comes in at 360g. I haven't used them, but Jose [Tairin's owner and engineer] makes a quality product, and if he says they're solid, I'd believe him.
Really like the previous Tairin hubs and wheels and have heard great things about Jose. He doesn't deal with products he doesn't believe in.
This is not based on any insider info, but I'm betting it's something in a new product category for them. There was a story in BRAIN alluding to this last year:
With CNC cranks coming back in vogue lately, it would be cool to see an I9 option.
My guess is pedals. Many established USA manufacturers have gotten into the game now that Yoshi tenet and others have proven I’m willing to spend 150 dollars on some pedals if they are made domestic.
My guess is pedals. Many established USA manufacturers have gotten into the game now that Yoshi tenet and others have proven I’m willing to spend 150...
My guess is pedals. Many established USA manufacturers have gotten into the game now that Yoshi tenet and others have proven I’m willing to spend 150 dollars on some pedals if they are made domestic.
Bottom bracket seems to make sense too, since they have experience making things that spin with bearings in them.
I sure hope so! It wasn’t the most efficient bike, and it wasn’t meant to be, but hands down one of the funnest bikes I’ve ever...
I sure hope so! It wasn’t the most efficient bike, and it wasn’t meant to be, but hands down one of the funnest bikes I’ve ever owned.
Bottle rocket was my first full suspended bike and was absolutely amazing to ride, pretty heavy and durable but still really fun, also probably one of the earliest what is now called jibb/fun bikes!
It's the same fork we saw as nicknamed Era USD to Ferro, here you can see it with stanchion guards, as the Instagram post hints it's a fork intended for light motorcycles and electric motorcycles.
d later
Hope has posted it on their social media yesterday, sb also posted pics of the trailer with huge model of a hub on a hanger. so in UK you might see a huge PRO 5 hub in traffic.
Hope Posted the video on social media: https://www.facebook.com/hopetech/videos/2166281513582107/
The announcement on facebook: https://www.facebook.com/hopetech/posts/pfbid037WRYNLuKWow3JR8e8Lv9JLik…
They posted it on instagram too
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10159444294547406&set=p.1015944…
SB Saw this:
and bs else saw this:
https://www.vitalmtb.com/news/press-release/hope-introduces-all-new-pro…
https://www.pinkbike.com/news/first-look-hope-pro-5-hubs.html
I see the engagement has greatly increased: 3.3 degrees.
Hope has always claimed they do what they do to have strongest, most reliable hub they can, so the engagement suffered, but this looks promising, but maybe it's strong enough on the Pro 5. For me reliability, durability, and engagement is important, I considered Onyx, due to the engagement.
But for the cheaper but reliable hubs, Hope is back at the top in competition, no longer the least engagement.
Like the idea of silent hubs, anyone use the onyx ones? What’s the bearing life like? And why did Shimano ditch there plans to release a silent hub, remember seeing some being tested by various media outlets. then the idea was scrapped.
I can't seem to find the article anymore, but I'm pretty sure the 'Sylence' hubs were dropped because of manufacturing/reliability issues. I think it had something to do with the hubs getting 'too expensive' if the quality control was at the level they wanted, but that could be hearsay. That was also around the time that Shimano had that big factory fire which may have put a dent into any new products and developments.
I have a set of wheels with Onyx hubs for six years now (with ceramic bearings). Little hub service (open/clean/re grease) intervals at 1.5 / 2 years and had to change the bearings after 4 years. Sparg clutch and every other parts are still in perfect condition. Onyx hubs are quite on the heavy side with 473 g. for a standard 148 boost rear hub.
For silent hubs, another option is the new Tairin silent hubs recently released (360 g.), with a disengaging Chris King or DT system. Or else is the Box component stealth hub with unidirectional bearings (500 g. and never saw a review of those).
Regarding the Pro5, what rims will be introduced for the 24h and the 28h versions of the hub? No info on Hope’s website…
Road rims?
They are really heavy and about half of the people with them say they explode all the time, other half say they are maintenance free.
The instant engagement feels really different to anything else conventional. Like it has a little bit of a soft start/sponge-y feel while still being instant.
It's very possible the sponginess comes from the pawls deforming... They are much more perpendicular to the two rings than the orientation of a pawl in a standard freehub in order for the compression force (through the wedge mecahnism) is high enough for the pawl not to slip. That angle of orientation means even a small deformation means a relatively big rotation of the two rings relative to each other (compared to a standard pawl) and the higher compressive forces on the pawls also mean they deform more (giving even more of a relative rotation between the two). Therefore the sponginess.
I got the OG Onyx hubs [450g] in 2018 for a new build, rode them happily for 3 seasons and sold them with the bike in late 2020. AFAIK they're still being used by the new owner on his park/shuttle rig.
I got the Onyx Vespers [371g] in 2020 for my new bike, and they have been so good, I picked up another set to go on a Spur that I'm building up. I thought my front bearings were starting to go bad at the end of last park season, but it was just dirt.
If you're a heavy and/or strong rider, go with the heavier Onyx hubs, as there is a possibility you might break the lighter Vesper version.
The Tairin S1 is a new hub on the market, and comes in at 360g. I haven't used them, but Jose [Tairin's owner and engineer] makes a quality product, and if he says they're solid, I'd believe him.
I had the onyx classics for 2 years. blew through 3 freehub bearings and the axle will occasionally unthread itself even with Loctite. Im on hydra now, much happier
Really like the previous Tairin hubs and wheels and have heard great things about Jose. He doesn't deal with products he doesn't believe in.
https://www.vitalmtb.com/photos/members/screen-shot-2023-02-22-2-20-39-am
Post Credit: Fiend Media (YouTube)
Tell him ROBBIS TV sent ya! :D
Any intel on what I9's up to?
I should drive over this morning and just pester them about it & not buy anything. Cause I'm local and poor
We expect a report by noon!
I9 freecoaster finally to be released?
Jesus don't do that! I was sure I'm looking at an email notification of my work account. I got genuinely stressed by seeing the notification!
Devinci has some shots of their proto park bike up on their YouTube now. I've heard they might be calling it the Chainsaw.
This is not based on any insider info, but I'm betting it's something in a new product category for them. There was a story in BRAIN alluding to this last year:
With CNC cranks coming back in vogue lately, it would be cool to see an I9 option.
A proto that isn't tube and lug? Yeah I'll pass.
Also looks like Push must be working on the 11.6 for Devinci bikes. Don't believe they're currently available for them.
My guess is pedals. Many established USA manufacturers have gotten into the game now that Yoshi tenet and others have proven I’m willing to spend 150 dollars on some pedals if they are made domestic.
New xc/trail suspension from manitou.
Everyone's dream Jibber and Jammer from the mid 2000's the Transition Bottlerocket looks to be making a comeback in 2024! :D \m/
Bottom bracket seems to make sense too, since they have experience making things that spin with bearings in them.
This looks to me like a new fork. It definitely looks beefier than the old 32 mm
https://esmtb.com/rockrider-race-940s-nueva-doble-rockrider-racing-team/
I sure hope so! It wasn’t the most efficient bike, and it wasn’t meant to be, but hands down one of the funnest bikes I’ve ever owned.
Bottle rocket was my first full suspended bike and was absolutely amazing to ride, pretty heavy and durable but still really fun, also probably one of the earliest what is now called jibb/fun bikes!
Teasing, more teasing please!
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CpAewuogOLk/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
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