2024 Racing Talk

veefour
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7/29/2024 7:36am Edited Date/Time 7/29/2024 7:40am
bizutch wrote:
Thank you for spoiling the race having not gotten to watch it. I literally just saw the women's XC last night despite the insanity of the replay...

Thank you for spoiling the race having not gotten to watch it.

 I literally just saw the women's XC last night despite the insanity of the replay have 120 SECOND COMMERCIAL breaks every 5 minutes of coverage. That was infuriating.  Anyone else watch the Peacock replay and just have to give up on watching the entire event and skip over 30 minutes of racing to get on with it?

I dunno, maybe it's not a bad idea to stay off of forums where people discuss racing until you've watched the race. It's a strategy that's always worked for me.😉

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7/29/2024 7:40am
veefour wrote:

Booing at the finish line and during the medal ceremony is very poor form IMO. Pidcock won fair and square.

well....what do you expect? olympic spectators PLUS french. Wink

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7/29/2024 10:20am
bizutch wrote:
Thank you for spoiling the race having not gotten to watch it. I literally just saw the women's XC last night despite the insanity of the replay...

Thank you for spoiling the race having not gotten to watch it.

 I literally just saw the women's XC last night despite the insanity of the replay have 120 SECOND COMMERCIAL breaks every 5 minutes of coverage. That was infuriating.  Anyone else watch the Peacock replay and just have to give up on watching the entire event and skip over 30 minutes of racing to get on with it?

veefour wrote:
I dunno, maybe it's not a bad idea to stay off of forums where people discuss racing until you've watched the race. It's a strategy that's...

I dunno, maybe it's not a bad idea to stay off of forums where people discuss racing until you've watched the race. It's a strategy that's always worked for me.😉

Purely sarcasm guy.
But to be honest, didn't expect the first sentence of Monday to be "Pidcock Wins" in the Vital gravity fan club.

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7/29/2024 10:22am
bizutch wrote:
Thank you for spoiling the race having not gotten to watch it. I literally just saw the women's XC last night despite the insanity of the replay...

Thank you for spoiling the race having not gotten to watch it.

 I literally just saw the women's XC last night despite the insanity of the replay have 120 SECOND COMMERCIAL breaks every 5 minutes of coverage. That was infuriating.  Anyone else watch the Peacock replay and just have to give up on watching the entire event and skip over 30 minutes of racing to get on with it?

veefour wrote:
I dunno, maybe it's not a bad idea to stay off of forums where people discuss racing until you've watched the race. It's a strategy that's...

I dunno, maybe it's not a bad idea to stay off of forums where people discuss racing until you've watched the race. It's a strategy that's always worked for me.😉

I made the same mistake coming here before watching the race.  Just laughed to myself because I never would have fathomed that Vital would be the place to spoil XC results.  Not a move I would have made if I hadn't watched a DH race yet!    

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mtbAndy
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7/29/2024 10:39am
veefour wrote:

Booing at the finish line and during the medal ceremony is very poor form IMO. Pidcock won fair and square.

iceman2058 wrote:

Totally agree. If anything, Koretzky diving to the inside of that turn once he realized what was happening was the uglier move here.

Yes, Koretzky should have given him the line. It was almost like he didn't see Pidcock there. Giving up the line may have slowed him down a hair and caused a bad line toward the tree just following but may have made it come to a sprint finish. 

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ZAKBROWN!
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7/29/2024 2:26pm

From Kabush's Instagram story it sounds like Koretzky had a minor slide out we didn't see on the broadcast that allowed Pidcock to close the gap before he made the pass.  I'm sure he'll be kicking himself over the couple last lap mistakes he made.  Bummed for him but that was an exciting race!

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bizutch
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7/29/2024 9:08pm

Just watched. Unstoppable force was coming through named Pidcock. Almost mid-pack on an unpassable course first lap and then up to 3rd. Back to 9th after a puncture. Back to the front. Man deserved it & ripped off a boss move to get past when Koretzky didn’t even expect it!

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Sugarbrad
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7/29/2024 9:56pm
bizutch wrote:
Think we could convince UCI to mount this in the start gate instead of a commercial kitchen mat? 

Think we could convince UCI to mount this in the start gate instead of a commercial kitchen mat? 

Sugarbrad wrote:

I wish they would use Neveplast.

bizutch wrote:

Snow grass? Wouldn't that be way slicker in the wet especially on rubber tires & caked up mud at the gate?

No it's great for start gates. The knobs are about 3mm long and flex so the tires sink into it.

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7/29/2024 11:11pm
bizutch wrote:
Thank you for spoiling the race having not gotten to watch it. I literally just saw the women's XC last night despite the insanity of the replay...

Thank you for spoiling the race having not gotten to watch it.

 I literally just saw the women's XC last night despite the insanity of the replay have 120 SECOND COMMERCIAL breaks every 5 minutes of coverage. That was infuriating.  Anyone else watch the Peacock replay and just have to give up on watching the entire event and skip over 30 minutes of racing to get on with it?

I know your like a billion years old my dude ;p, but there is this thing called ad blockers. https://ublockorigin.com/ You will never have a ad again on peacock.  And you can even disable it for vital so @sspomer can keep the lights on. 

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7/29/2024 11:14pm
veefour wrote:

Booing at the finish line and during the medal ceremony is very poor form IMO. Pidcock won fair and square.

I would wager that a ton of the spectators are not cycling people and just people there for the olympics in general.  Our sport, in any discipline has amazing camaraderie between riders and fans.  

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7/29/2024 11:37pm
veefour wrote:

Booing at the finish line and during the medal ceremony is very poor form IMO. Pidcock won fair and square.

I would wager that a ton of the spectators are not cycling people and just people there for the olympics in general.  Our sport, in any...

I would wager that a ton of the spectators are not cycling people and just people there for the olympics in general.  Our sport, in any discipline has amazing camaraderie between riders and fans.  

Pretty sure of that too. Pidcock won amazingly clearing this 38s gap and Victor had some mistakes that cost him the win (and not securing this specific inside line was one of them IMO). That was an exciting battle to see.

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7/30/2024 4:49am

Read on insta that someone wanted to file a complaint against Batten to dq her, anyone know why?

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mfoga
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7/30/2024 5:01am
29 wrote:

Read on insta that someone wanted to file a complaint against Batten to dq her, anyone know why?

She raced through tech feed zone and didn’t take a bottle right before finish line. 

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7/30/2024 5:21am Edited Date/Time 7/30/2024 5:23am
29 wrote:

Read on insta that someone wanted to file a complaint against Batten to dq her, anyone know why?

mfoga wrote:

She raced through tech feed zone and didn’t take a bottle right before finish line. 

Right, and Jenny took a bottle a chucked it. If anyone had a case to protest it's Jenny and she didn't because she a freakin' BOSS (and knew it didn't affect the outcome).

 

I heard it was the Dutch team (not Puck, team management) which apparently is SOP for them...

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bizutch
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7/30/2024 6:06am
bizutch wrote:
Thank you for spoiling the race having not gotten to watch it. I literally just saw the women's XC last night despite the insanity of the replay...

Thank you for spoiling the race having not gotten to watch it.

 I literally just saw the women's XC last night despite the insanity of the replay have 120 SECOND COMMERCIAL breaks every 5 minutes of coverage. That was infuriating.  Anyone else watch the Peacock replay and just have to give up on watching the entire event and skip over 30 minutes of racing to get on with it?

I know your like a billion years old my dude ;p, but there is this thing called ad blockers. https://ublockorigin.com/ You will never have a ad...

I know your like a billion years old my dude ;p, but there is this thing called ad blockers. https://ublockorigin.com/ You will never have a ad again on peacock.  And you can even disable it for vital so @sspomer can keep the lights on. 

No this was on the Peacock app on Roku. It didn't do it on men's when I watched that back.
If you've not watched it via the TV app, there are little dots at the bottom of screen indicating ad breaks.Same thing for moto & SX. You can skip ahead on the timeline if there are 2 or 3 in a short span and your penalty is they just play one ad break as you come out of fast forward.

Women's Olympic XC had close to 20 ad break dots on the timeline so I'd get 5 minutes of action & a 120 second ad break. Literally had to skip most of the race. It's still that way on the replay.  Here's the pic of both. And men's only had 60 second ad breaks.
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7/30/2024 3:08pm

Just saw Finn and Tahnee ride by me at Sun Peaks. Anyone know why they might be here? Just out for a rip post-Crankworx?

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7/30/2024 8:09pm
pinkrobe wrote:

Just saw Finn and Tahnee ride by me at Sun Peaks. Anyone know why they might be here? Just out for a rip post-Crankworx?

Escaping the post crankworx braking bumps i'd guess. Wouldnt be surprised if theyre in revy tomorrow

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8/2/2024 8:34am

US National Champs Enduro Stage POVs via Nestoroff

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USAC nationals pro start list.  

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8/4/2024 6:39pm Edited Date/Time 8/4/2024 6:40pm
t-rick wrote:
2024 USAC Gravity MTB Nationals | Downhill, 08/03/2024-08/04/2024 : : my.race|result (raceresult.com)Looks like results are up !  Pretty cool to see the National Champs jersey...

2024 USAC Gravity MTB Nationals | Downhill, 08/03/2024-08/04/2024 : : my.race|result (raceresult.com)

Looks like results are up !  Pretty cool to see the National Champs jersey exchange hands a few times. although a sub 2-minute course is tough to make time on. 

Not to be a downer (and many are already aware), but a cat 1 30-39 category rider passed away as a result of injuries sustained during his race run. This caused a 2-hour delay on start times and quite a few riders DNS'd on their race runs out of respect/sorrow.

 

We had already left since we weren't doing Downhill and needed to get home, but communicated (as well as you an communicate with people in the data vaccuum of Ride Rock Creek) with folks on the ground. Pretty sad and somber situation.

 

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8/4/2024 7:12pm
t-rick wrote:
2024 USAC Gravity MTB Nationals | Downhill, 08/03/2024-08/04/2024 : : my.race|result (raceresult.com)Looks like results are up !  Pretty cool to see the National Champs jersey...

2024 USAC Gravity MTB Nationals | Downhill, 08/03/2024-08/04/2024 : : my.race|result (raceresult.com)

Looks like results are up !  Pretty cool to see the National Champs jersey exchange hands a few times. although a sub 2-minute course is tough to make time on. 

hogfly wrote:
Not to be a downer (and many are already aware), but a cat 1 30-39 category rider passed away as a result of injuries sustained during...

Not to be a downer (and many are already aware), but a cat 1 30-39 category rider passed away as a result of injuries sustained during his race run. This caused a 2-hour delay on start times and quite a few riders DNS'd on their race runs out of respect/sorrow.

 

We had already left since we weren't doing Downhill and needed to get home, but communicated (as well as you an communicate with people in the data vaccuum of Ride Rock Creek) with folks on the ground. Pretty sad and somber situation.

 

I’ve got friends in that category. Someone please let me know & reach out ASAP!

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8/4/2024 7:58pm
t-rick wrote:
2024 USAC Gravity MTB Nationals | Downhill, 08/03/2024-08/04/2024 : : my.race|result (raceresult.com)Looks like results are up !  Pretty cool to see the National Champs jersey...

2024 USAC Gravity MTB Nationals | Downhill, 08/03/2024-08/04/2024 : : my.race|result (raceresult.com)

Looks like results are up !  Pretty cool to see the National Champs jersey exchange hands a few times. although a sub 2-minute course is tough to make time on. 

hogfly wrote:
Not to be a downer (and many are already aware), but a cat 1 30-39 category rider passed away as a result of injuries sustained during...

Not to be a downer (and many are already aware), but a cat 1 30-39 category rider passed away as a result of injuries sustained during his race run. This caused a 2-hour delay on start times and quite a few riders DNS'd on their race runs out of respect/sorrow.

 

We had already left since we weren't doing Downhill and needed to get home, but communicated (as well as you an communicate with people in the data vaccuum of Ride Rock Creek) with folks on the ground. Pretty sad and somber situation.

 

My gosh, that is absolutely horrible. The rider's family & friends are in my thoughts. 

I was not aware of that since I live on the west coast and haven't been checking social media much lately. Thank you for mentioning that. 

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8/4/2024 8:59pm

May God watch over this man’s loved ones. I am so sorry for their loss. 
 

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8/5/2024 5:38am
t-rick wrote:
2024 USAC Gravity MTB Nationals | Downhill, 08/03/2024-08/04/2024 : : my.race|result (raceresult.com)Looks like results are up !  Pretty cool to see the National Champs jersey...

2024 USAC Gravity MTB Nationals | Downhill, 08/03/2024-08/04/2024 : : my.race|result (raceresult.com)

Looks like results are up !  Pretty cool to see the National Champs jersey exchange hands a few times. although a sub 2-minute course is tough to make time on. 

hogfly wrote:
Not to be a downer (and many are already aware), but a cat 1 30-39 category rider passed away as a result of injuries sustained during...

Not to be a downer (and many are already aware), but a cat 1 30-39 category rider passed away as a result of injuries sustained during his race run. This caused a 2-hour delay on start times and quite a few riders DNS'd on their race runs out of respect/sorrow.

 

We had already left since we weren't doing Downhill and needed to get home, but communicated (as well as you an communicate with people in the data vaccuum of Ride Rock Creek) with folks on the ground. Pretty sad and somber situation.

 

bizutch wrote:

I’ve got friends in that category. Someone please let me know & reach out ASAP!

talking to another racer's father on the shuttle up, it was apparently a guy from connecticut

sspomer
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It's heart-breaking to have to post news like this. Scott Huntley is the rider who passed away at National DH Champs yesterday. 

Eastern States Cup and many others have so many great things to say about Scott. He sure looked like a shredder and all-around great human. Our thoughts and prayers go out to his family and friends as we all mourn the loss of Scott. It's a sad, sad day for our community. Ride in Peace, Scott.

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hogfly
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8/5/2024 9:11am

This might should go in a separate thread and is something I was going to bring up after our experiences at nationals. I absolutely love Ride Rock Creek, and I love Neko. I love and acknowledge everything he has done for our sport. So please don't take this as criticism of him or RRC.

That being said: What should be the minimum communication/ cell coverage requirements for a large race event? I realize that our sport often takes place in remote locations by nature (especially enduro). As such, providing adequate coverage may be difficult. But when you're trying to coordinate teams of people (especially young racers) across multiple events and practices and such, having extremely limited cell phone coverage is a significant hindrance. On top of that, USAC was trying to send out real-time communications to events occurring on the ground, and they were often delayed in being sent and delayed in being received to the point of them being irrelevant (I received a text about a podium occurring at 5:30pm at 5:41pm). 

 

Anyway, I'm not sure what's to be done, but for large events, efforts need to be undertaken to increase the ability of teams to communicate. At the bare miminum, the organizers should inform teams/participants that the cellular network might be an issue, and they may want to take measure to create their own comm systems (walkie talkies).

Oh.. and one more: at what point are we going to limit pit bikes/surrons in the spectator areas? Not to be an old man, but the number of very young kids riding them through the crowds at Nats was annoying at best (a kid roosted a family in the crowd at whipoff trying to get his surron back up the hill) to dangerous (a kid on one way too big whiskey throttled his into a group and laid it over). I realize they're extremely useful for teams, especially if you have remote pits, but there need to be some expectations around appropriate use.

(Mods, feel free to break this off into a separate thread if it's better to go into a USAC Nats complaints discussion).

 

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