I liked those old RC2 dampers better than the recent stuff, and how the old 26" 36 forks didn't creak quite as often. Progress!
We're all...
I liked those old RC2 dampers better than the recent stuff, and how the old 26" 36 forks didn't creak quite as often. Progress!
We're all (or maybe just a few of us weirdos) still waiting for 160-180 dual crowns that are similar weight, price, availability as the 38mm bruisers. Maybe the MRP Bartlett now that they have new dampers - let's see how those ride.
Sure seems like eMTB make a big enough market for trail dual crowns to be viable. Durable and stout for aggressive riders, "cool" looking for ebike full fat market just based on aesthetics. Nose pivots are cool.
I don’t think the current crop of 5-inch-thick down tubes on e-Bikes make a dual crown ideal.
I liked those old RC2 dampers better than the recent stuff, and how the old 26" 36 forks didn't creak quite as often. Progress!
We're all...
I liked those old RC2 dampers better than the recent stuff, and how the old 26" 36 forks didn't creak quite as often. Progress!
We're all (or maybe just a few of us weirdos) still waiting for 160-180 dual crowns that are similar weight, price, availability as the 38mm bruisers. Maybe the MRP Bartlett now that they have new dampers - let's see how those ride.
Sure seems like eMTB make a big enough market for trail dual crowns to be viable. Durable and stout for aggressive riders, "cool" looking for ebike full fat market just based on aesthetics. Nose pivots are cool.
I liked those old RC2 dampers better than the recent stuff, and how the old 26" 36 forks didn't creak quite as often. Progress!
We're all...
I liked those old RC2 dampers better than the recent stuff, and how the old 26" 36 forks didn't creak quite as often. Progress!
We're all (or maybe just a few of us weirdos) still waiting for 160-180 dual crowns that are similar weight, price, availability as the 38mm bruisers. Maybe the MRP Bartlett now that they have new dampers - let's see how those ride.
Sure seems like eMTB make a big enough market for trail dual crowns to be viable. Durable and stout for aggressive riders, "cool" looking for ebike full fat market just based on aesthetics. Nose pivots are cool.
Stoked to see a hard compound 29" DH casing DHR2 in 2.5". 100% that will be my next rear tire purchase for my one-size-fits-most Enduro/trail/XC/DH bike
I’d be super stoked to see it on a 27.5 tire for us mullet folks.
Just thinking it would be really cool to see electronic data in world cup events. Showing in downhill how much energy the suspension takes on in...
Just thinking it would be really cool to see electronic data in world cup events. Showing in downhill how much energy the suspension takes on in certain sections of track to see how one rider is a graceful deer moving through the woods, while another is a rhino on cocaine and adrenaline. I have no idea if livevalve or flight attendant track this sort of thing. But Im sure its possible to be implemented. Even if a rider does not want to have suspension changing, they could just have the components that allow us to see the data.
Sure - I hear absolutely everyone is now on a 25psi Hydrid Air Coil w/ 475 in/lb springs. Oh, the data...
Jonathan H. found it on a Super Deluxe Coil as well. Be on the lookout.
The entire Flight Attendant will be able to have components introduced into previous AXS and Eagle drivetrains, apparently also to include the AXS Reverb.
The entire Flight Attendant will be able to have components introduced into previous AXS and Eagle drivetrains, apparently also to include the AXS Reverb.
Lmao why would you need Flight Attendant for a dropper post? Can some people not press the button?
The entire Flight Attendant will be able to have components introduced into previous AXS and Eagle drivetrains, apparently also to include the AXS Reverb.
The entire Flight Attendant will be able to have components introduced into previous AXS and Eagle drivetrains, apparently also to include the AXS Reverb.
The entire Flight Attendant will be able to have components introduced into previous AXS and Eagle drivetrains, apparently also to include the AXS Reverb.
AXS Reverb Dropper, plus a Quarq Power Meter all can and do influence Flight Attendant damping. It now works off of 'smart' algorithm where AXS Gear Selections + Power Meter readings and at what height an AXS Reverb Dropper is from full extension have the suspension learn to adjust accordingly.
Rumor is this current OE to Specialized Epic only componentry group showed a WC XC data log having reduced damping-change at the controls from many to barely 10.
I never found the dropper button on my handlebars too hard to push.
I think innovation is good but this is the wrong direction. Remember...
I never found the dropper button on my handlebars too hard to push.
I think innovation is good but this is the wrong direction. Remember droppers just started to become good.
I agree but the whole point of flight attendant is to minimize thinking and just ride.
shimano is doing the same with the Yeti E-team with auto shifting. Innovation can go so many different ways that can benefit the sport and bring us better products whether we like the direction or not.
I never found the dropper button on my handlebars too hard to push.
I think innovation is good but this is the wrong direction. Remember...
I never found the dropper button on my handlebars too hard to push.
I think innovation is good but this is the wrong direction. Remember droppers just started to become good.
We are a weird bunch hey,
Innovation/tech is a good thing! Up until its something "you" dont "need", then its something "you" think has gone too far....(Im not throwing shade directly at you @ethanrevitch, just using "you" as a general term
Counterpoint, why be bothered by it, let these companies innovate and build whatever they heck they want. The market will decide if its a "good" idea or not.
I'm not to fussed with electronic shifting of suspension, but I see how it could be amazing.
What I would like to see is a dropper that drops automatically, so I dont have to weight it. I want that tech to mature into something reliable.
This could be awesome, I wonder if it’ll have the adjustability of their other bikes, and I wonder if the rear travel will change? 140 rear...
This could be awesome, I wonder if it’ll have the adjustability of their other bikes, and I wonder if the rear travel will change? 140 rear travel although a small change would make it an even more capable all rounder.
Well… it Looks like Raww need to shake their darn head!
All jokes aside, the bike looks great.
The bike looks great!
You still wont notice the extra 5mm travel at the rear, its just a byproduct of changing the suspension kinematics (and then a "FAB") for the product sell sheet.
I'm not trying to be a dick (it just happens naturally
but we aren't that finely tuned to notice 5mm of rear travel (its .3%). Our height changes more than that over the course of a day, the difference in your leg length is prolly more than 5mm.
I've got a Fugitive here, and a 50, 52.5, and 55 rear shocks, so travel ranges from 120ish to 140ish. I'll put 6 beers on you not being able to tell them apart, and those would be 10mm travel differences. If youre ever up this way, let me know, we can test all day, I'll even buy lunch.
We are a weird bunch hey,
Innovation/tech is a good thing! Up until its something "you" dont "need", then its something "you" think has gone too...
We are a weird bunch hey,
Innovation/tech is a good thing! Up until its something "you" dont "need", then its something "you" think has gone too far....(Im not throwing shade directly at you @ethanrevitch, just using "you" as a general term
Counterpoint, why be bothered by it, let these companies innovate and build whatever they heck they want. The market will decide if its a "good" idea or not.
I'm not to fussed with electronic shifting of suspension, but I see how it could be amazing.
What I would like to see is a dropper that drops automatically, so I dont have to weight it. I want that tech to mature into something reliable.
I think it may be useful to some but I don’t think the average consumer would touch it.
We are a weird bunch hey,
Innovation/tech is a good thing! Up until its something "you" dont "need", then its something "you" think has gone too...
We are a weird bunch hey,
Innovation/tech is a good thing! Up until its something "you" dont "need", then its something "you" think has gone too far....(Im not throwing shade directly at you @ethanrevitch, just using "you" as a general term
Counterpoint, why be bothered by it, let these companies innovate and build whatever they heck they want. The market will decide if its a "good" idea or not.
I'm not to fussed with electronic shifting of suspension, but I see how it could be amazing.
What I would like to see is a dropper that drops automatically, so I dont have to weight it. I want that tech to mature into something reliable.
I think it's fine as long as you can still get the top tier products without being forced to buy an AI, micro nuclear reactor powered, LTE 6G connected version of the component just to get the latest bit of the tech that actually matters.
We are a weird bunch hey,
Innovation/tech is a good thing! Up until its something "you" dont "need", then its something "you" think has gone too...
We are a weird bunch hey,
Innovation/tech is a good thing! Up until its something "you" dont "need", then its something "you" think has gone too far....(Im not throwing shade directly at you @ethanrevitch, just using "you" as a general term
Counterpoint, why be bothered by it, let these companies innovate and build whatever they heck they want. The market will decide if its a "good" idea or not.
I'm not to fussed with electronic shifting of suspension, but I see how it could be amazing.
What I would like to see is a dropper that drops automatically, so I dont have to weight it. I want that tech to mature into something reliable.
I think it's fine as long as you can still get the top tier products without being forced to buy an AI, micro nuclear reactor powered...
I think it's fine as long as you can still get the top tier products without being forced to buy an AI, micro nuclear reactor powered, LTE 6G connected version of the component just to get the latest bit of the tech that actually matters.
I like gadgets and tech but I can see definitely see this becoming an issue; I don't think we're far away from a world where suspension (and bikes) are optimized for electronic control.
E.g. if you have electronically controlled damping you don't have design your suspension to be good at climbing/pedaling and descending; you can optimize for descending and let the electronics handle the climbing settings.
If you want that performance then you're gonna have to buy the AI, micro nuclear reactor powered, LTE 6G connected version.
Stoked to see a hard compound 29" DH casing DHR2 in 2.5". 100% that will be my next rear tire purchase for my one-size-fits-most Enduro/trail/XC/DH bike
I don’t think the current crop of 5-inch-thick down tubes on e-Bikes make a dual crown ideal.
just make the crowns wider then? also, ideal for introducing a new front hub width standard.
Not an issue. I have a FF Turbo Kenevo w/Boxxer, the DT tapers as it approaches the HT.
Jonathan H. found it on a Super Deluxe Coil as well. Be on the lookout.
I’d be super stoked to see it on a 27.5 tire for us mullet folks.
Sure - I hear absolutely everyone is now on a 25psi Hydrid Air Coil w/ 475 in/lb springs. Oh, the data...
The entire Flight Attendant will be able to have components introduced into previous AXS and Eagle drivetrains, apparently also to include the AXS Reverb.
Lmao why would you need Flight Attendant for a dropper post? Can some people not press the button?
Disagree. If they can integrate some kind of dropper auto dropping when starting to go downhill I’ll take that.
Tech has gone too far…
The technology already exists https://www.instagram.com/reel/C5ONG_oLLvR/?igsh=a3QwdWljNnVkdzN4
Sram would disagree with you. To each their own, some people are pumped on it. Some hate it. Neither is right or wrong.
its cool to see the progression of innovation either way
I never found the dropper button on my handlebars too hard to push.
I think innovation is good but this is the wrong direction. Remember droppers just started to become good.
The internet continues to flourish...
AXS Reverb Dropper, plus a Quarq Power Meter all can and do influence Flight Attendant damping. It now works off of 'smart' algorithm where AXS Gear Selections + Power Meter readings and at what height an AXS Reverb Dropper is from full extension have the suspension learn to adjust accordingly.
Rumor is this current OE to Specialized Epic only componentry group showed a WC XC data log having reduced damping-change at the controls from many to barely 10.
Yes - Tech has gone too far.
I agree but the whole point of flight attendant is to minimize thinking and just ride.
shimano is doing the same with the Yeti E-team with auto shifting. Innovation can go so many different ways that can benefit the sport and bring us better products whether we like the direction or not.
We are a weird bunch hey,
Innovation/tech is a good thing! Up until its something "you" dont "need", then its something "you" think has gone too far....(Im not throwing shade directly at you @ethanrevitch, just using "you" as a general term
Counterpoint, why be bothered by it, let these companies innovate and build whatever they heck they want. The market will decide if its a "good" idea or not.
I'm not to fussed with electronic shifting of suspension, but I see how it could be amazing.
What I would like to see is a dropper that drops automatically, so I dont have to weight it. I want that tech to mature into something reliable.
The bike looks great!
You still wont notice the extra 5mm travel at the rear, its just a byproduct of changing the suspension kinematics (and then a "FAB") for the product sell sheet.
I'm not trying to be a dick (it just happens naturally
but we aren't that finely tuned to notice 5mm of rear travel (its .3%). Our height changes more than that over the course of a day, the difference in your leg length is prolly more than 5mm.
I've got a Fugitive here, and a 50, 52.5, and 55 rear shocks, so travel ranges from 120ish to 140ish. I'll put 6 beers on you not being able to tell them apart, and those would be 10mm travel differences. If youre ever up this way, let me know, we can test all day, I'll even buy lunch.
I think it may be useful to some but I don’t think the average consumer would touch it.
Is this a new Process from Kona?! Looks like an X but different rocker and slimmer around the ST/TT junction, maybe?
Looks interesting. Bummed Kona isn’t going to HP. I was in their HQ the other day, super cool dudes.
I think it's fine as long as you can still get the top tier products without being forced to buy an AI, micro nuclear reactor powered, LTE 6G connected version of the component just to get the latest bit of the tech that actually matters.
I like gadgets and tech but I can see definitely see this becoming an issue; I don't think we're far away from a world where suspension (and bikes) are optimized for electronic control.
E.g. if you have electronically controlled damping you don't have design your suspension to be good at climbing/pedaling and descending; you can optimize for descending and let the electronics handle the climbing settings.
If you want that performance then you're gonna have to buy the AI, micro nuclear reactor powered, LTE 6G connected version.
sounds like we will go full circle, same as in the automotive industry as that the manual will be for enthusiast who want a more engaging ride/drive
can't wait to see people on their ebike suv's with autoshifting :D
Because Ecosystem bro
Something or nothing?
https://www.instagram.com/p/C5vgetyO_yU/
Beat me to it. Cami is a Fox athlete, strange she doesn’t recognize it. Also, the reservoir looks a bit longer than the usual, no?
It looks just like a DHX. He might be trying different tunes for Fox. Or might be trying something custom (Avalanche or the likes).
He responded and said it's a dhx.
He got asked why not a dhx 2 and Neko said he liked the numbers they were getting with the dhx tuned for the bike.
All that makes sense to me, if the shock is tuned for the rider/ bike combo there is less need for the extra adjustment of the x2.
Moar shimz
Is anyone able to answer? Not for the lols
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