Looks like a new Saint crank on that new Phoenix, or is it just a sticker on some other model ? I can't figure out any...
Looks like a new Saint crank on that new Phoenix, or is it just a sticker on some other model ? I can't figure out any other Shimano crank with that shape.
I think he just has to run different cranks because of the way the front sprocket is mounted to the cranks, the sprocket is probably on a spindle.
Looks like a new Saint crank on that new Phoenix, or is it just a sticker on some other model ? I can't figure out any...
Looks like a new Saint crank on that new Phoenix, or is it just a sticker on some other model ? I can't figure out any other Shimano crank with that shape.
Can someone explain to me where the chain goes after it goes over the top of the chainring?
Looks like a new Saint crank on that new Phoenix, or is it just a sticker on some other model ? I can't figure out any...
Looks like a new Saint crank on that new Phoenix, or is it just a sticker on some other model ? I can't figure out any other Shimano crank with that shape.
Can someone explain to me where the chain goes after it goes over the top of the chainring?
It's giving me Superco Silencer Vibes~~~
Can someone explain to me where the chain goes after it goes over the top of the chainring?
It's giving me Superco Silencer Vibes~~~
It's a jackshaft - one chain connects the cassette to the idler pulley, which is coaxial (am I using that right?) with another pulley that is connected to the chainring via a second chain.
Looks like a new Saint crank on that new Phoenix, or is it just a sticker on some other model ? I can't figure out any...
Looks like a new Saint crank on that new Phoenix, or is it just a sticker on some other model ? I can't figure out any other Shimano crank with that shape.
I think he just has to run different cranks because of the way the front sprocket is mounted to the cranks, the sprocket is probably on...
I think he just has to run different cranks because of the way the front sprocket is mounted to the cranks, the sprocket is probably on a spindle.
given that its also running what looks to be the current production saint derailleur i'd guesstimate its just another crank with a saint sticker, greenland style.
Looks like a new Saint crank on that new Phoenix, or is it just a sticker on some other model ? I can't figure out any...
Looks like a new Saint crank on that new Phoenix, or is it just a sticker on some other model ? I can't figure out any other Shimano crank with that shape.
It's a jackshaft - one chain connects the cassette to the idler pulley, which is coaxial (am I using that right?) with another pulley that is...
It's a jackshaft - one chain connects the cassette to the idler pulley, which is coaxial (am I using that right?) with another pulley that is connected to the chainring via a second chain.
I don't think it's called a pulley when it's transferring torque (so two sprockets instead of two pulleys), I think pulleys only redirect chains, ropes and the like. But yeah, that.
It's the same arrangement as the jack shaft except you don't need a shaft going through the frame, you can even have the two sprockets bolted together and use a bearing inside both of them like it's used with a pulley. In reality I wouldn't be surprised if there's an axle going through the frame with some proper bearings supporting it.
Looks like a new Saint crank on that new Phoenix, or is it just a sticker on some other model ? I can't figure out any...
Looks like a new Saint crank on that new Phoenix, or is it just a sticker on some other model ? I can't figure out any other Shimano crank with that shape.
It's a jackshaft - one chain connects the cassette to the idler pulley, which is coaxial (am I using that right?) with another pulley that is...
It's a jackshaft - one chain connects the cassette to the idler pulley, which is coaxial (am I using that right?) with another pulley that is connected to the chainring via a second chain.
I was mistaken, I looked at the picture again and realized the chain from the cassette goes to the "idler" pulley. At first glance, it looked like the chain was going from the bottom of the cassette to the top of the chainring, which confused me.
Re: The Pivot Phoenix, it looks to be running Weagle's high pivot design and maybe the DW6 sus design. Looks to be a lot more happening at the BB junction box than just a high pivot with a split pivot link.
Re: The Pivot Phoenix, it looks to be running Weagle's high pivot design and maybe the DW6 sus design. Looks to be a lot more happening...
Re: The Pivot Phoenix, it looks to be running Weagle's high pivot design and maybe the DW6 sus design. Looks to be a lot more happening at the BB junction box than just a high pivot with a split pivot link.
Yeah, at first I thought it was a regular horizontal lower link but now that you point that out I think there's more going on. It looks like part of the frame sticks up and back towards the rear wheel above the BB, which would line up with the DW6 system, but that would require another pivot. My guess is either there's a 'hidden' pivot around where a Horst link would have it near the wheel, or it's a Split Pivot/concentric type, but it's hard for me to make it out from this image. Did a quick freehand (mouse) sketch with a Split Pivot DW6 model:
Re: The Pivot Phoenix, it looks to be running Weagle's high pivot design and maybe the DW6 sus design. Looks to be a lot more happening...
Re: The Pivot Phoenix, it looks to be running Weagle's high pivot design and maybe the DW6 sus design. Looks to be a lot more happening at the BB junction box than just a high pivot with a split pivot link.
Yeah, at first I thought it was a regular horizontal lower link but now that you point that out I think there's more going on. It...
Yeah, at first I thought it was a regular horizontal lower link but now that you point that out I think there's more going on. It looks like part of the frame sticks up and back towards the rear wheel above the BB, which would line up with the DW6 system, but that would require another pivot. My guess is either there's a 'hidden' pivot around where a Horst link would have it near the wheel, or it's a Split Pivot/concentric type, but it's hard for me to make it out from this image. Did a quick freehand (mouse) sketch with a Split Pivot DW6 model:
I think a split pivot would make it a linkage driven 4-bar (pedalling wise), so not a DW '6'
Primoz said the industry is going away from HP bikes, no new HP slash, or Optic, or Sight
The industry as a whole does seem to be shifting back, but these bikes are years down the pipeline. We probably won't see too many high/mid-pivot redesigns afterwards but I think these are too far in development to postpone further.
New RM Slayer in the Thomas Vanderham signature series video from Dakine? All black (not current colour way) and looks like it might be a mullet? (1:04 is a pretty clear shot)
New RM Slayer in the Thomas Vanderham signature series video from Dakine? All black (not current colour way) and looks like it might be a mullet...
New RM Slayer in the Thomas Vanderham signature series video from Dakine? All black (not current colour way) and looks like it might be a mullet? (1:04 is a pretty clear shot)
The shock mount seems slightly repositioned on the strut to be a little lower (less progressive) and you can see downtube storage - seems like the same prototype leaked last year on the other site.
I think he just has to run different cranks because of the way the front sprocket is mounted to the cranks, the sprocket is probably on a spindle.
Did you happen to notice if it was mullet?
Is it even an Ibis with straight top tube? Looks better though, we can all agree on that
Looks like the Pivot starts as a mid pivot, but the rear axle would move forward quite soon after sag.
Saw the rider doing a few laps. I Tried to be incognito and think it was full size wheels front and rear. But he's a tall bloke so could be possible
It was a very big bike, my mate in his xl ripmo was well jealous
Can someone explain to me where the chain goes after it goes over the top of the chainring?
It's giving me Superco Silencer Vibes~~~
Which chain? 😜
It's a jackshaft - one chain connects the cassette to the idler pulley, which is coaxial (am I using that right?) with another pulley that is connected to the chainring via a second chain.
given that its also running what looks to be the current production saint derailleur i'd guesstimate its just another crank with a saint sticker, greenland style.
I don't think it's called a pulley when it's transferring torque (so two sprockets instead of two pulleys), I think pulleys only redirect chains, ropes and the like. But yeah, that.
It's the same arrangement as the jack shaft except you don't need a shaft going through the frame, you can even have the two sprockets bolted together and use a bearing inside both of them like it's used with a pulley. In reality I wouldn't be surprised if there's an axle going through the frame with some proper bearings supporting it.
I was mistaken, I looked at the picture again and realized the chain from the cassette goes to the "idler" pulley. At first glance, it looked like the chain was going from the bottom of the cassette to the top of the chainring, which confused me.
Re: The Pivot Phoenix, it looks to be running Weagle's high pivot design and maybe the DW6 sus design. Looks to be a lot more happening at the BB junction box than just a high pivot with a split pivot link.
More info on the DW high pivot design: https://www.pinkbike.com/news/dave-weagle-patents-high-pivot-drivetrain…
Also, I know it was posted a few pages back, but the yet-to-be-announced GX Transmission can be seen on the new Canyon Spectral:ON in today's Vital article: https://www.vitalmtb.com/news/press-release/canyon-updates-spectralon
Yeah, at first I thought it was a regular horizontal lower link but now that you point that out I think there's more going on. It looks like part of the frame sticks up and back towards the rear wheel above the BB, which would line up with the DW6 system, but that would require another pivot. My guess is either there's a 'hidden' pivot around where a Horst link would have it near the wheel, or it's a Split Pivot/concentric type, but it's hard for me to make it out from this image. Did a quick freehand (mouse) sketch with a Split Pivot DW6 model:
in case anybody is wondering about the Deviatecycles new bike
I think a split pivot would make it a linkage driven 4-bar (pedalling wise), so not a DW '6'
No way,
Primoz said the industry is going away from HP bikes, no new HP slash, or Optic, or Sight
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Scratch that; it's on page 328 from February and not any better of a view unfortunately
DW4
Haha easy to recognise that CAP parking spot @Nzdinosaur
Looking like a 29er. On 27.5 the 'X' is in the middle of the 50psi, 29er is in front of the 50 psi.
*edit chose a non WT 27.5, but still kinda checks out 🤷 vvv
The industry as a whole does seem to be shifting back, but these bikes are years down the pipeline. We probably won't see too many high/mid-pivot redesigns afterwards but I think these are too far in development to postpone further.
The DW Pivot bike with the two driveside chains is the REAL reason the industry has been silently pushing 55mm chainlines on us #illuminati #qanon
New RM Slayer in the Thomas Vanderham signature series video from Dakine? All black (not current colour way) and looks like it might be a mullet? (1:04 is a pretty clear shot)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbw0keCN6ik
The shock mount seems slightly repositioned on the strut to be a little lower (less progressive) and you can see downtube storage - seems like the same prototype leaked last year on the other site.
It's also mx out of the gate for Mediums and 29 for bigger sizes but able to swap to mullet and back in all sizes.
Does that mean it's coming soon? Not that I'm upset (in any way) with mine or looking to replace it anytime soon.
Hearing mixed wheel hd6 and release not too far away
Any news on the Chainsaw’s release-for-purchase date and pricing in currencies different than $? Since its official release, there’s been nothing…
Fegarding the Pivot, it would need a pivot near the drop outs to be a DW6 and It looks like it does not have one
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