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Bring back the pull shock! 

For real though.

Serviced three ol Fox Dyads last week. They're built like a tank and seem to last forever. Unlike a lot of the newer Fox boingers.

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 New AXS dropping March 21?

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jamesma wrote:
 New AXS dropping March 21?

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 New AXS dropping March 21?

Yep, worst-kept secret in MTB right now Laughing

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New Ibis screenshot. Any news about this bike?   

New Ibis screenshot. Any news about this bike? 

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FullSend wrote:
My best guess would be a bike suitable for modern EDR race tracks. At least that's probably what their athletes would want them to make. The...

My best guess would be a bike suitable for modern EDR race tracks. At least that's probably what their athletes would want them to make. The Ripmo always seemed to bit undergunned for proper enduro racing in regards to suspension and geometry.

Judging by that, it's probably a long-travel 29er (- mullet seems unlikely as all the fastest enduro boys have swapped back to 29ers and Ibis never cared much for mullet anyways). I guess at least 160mm of travel, 500mm of Reach on a size L and a 63° HTA.

AndehM wrote:

It will be a mullet.  A few weeks ago someone snapped a photo of Zakarias' Johansen's bike and it clearly had a Maxxis 27.5 rear tire.

Definitely looks like a mullet in his youtube videos. Doesn't mean it can't do full 29 as well tho.

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ROBBIS TV wrote:
EDIT: @vessel_bike_project Prototype bike with a floater (floating brake) spotted at the Southridge Winter DH Series in Fontana, California. Filmed by: Vital MTB https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1S4sLYNhiOE&ab_channel=VitalMTB    

EDIT: @vessel_bike_project Prototype bike with a floater (floating brake) spotted at the Southridge Winter DH Series in Fontana, California.

Filmed by: Vital MTB

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1S4sLYNhiOE&ab_channel=VitalMTB

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jamesma wrote:
 New AXS dropping March 21?

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 New AXS dropping March 21?

"the drivetrain of your dreams" ................. Good lord! I've seen some cheesy, over the top marketing before but that really does take the cake! 

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ROBBIS TV wrote:
EDIT: @vessel_bike_project Prototype bike with a floater (floating brake) spotted at the Southridge Winter DH Series in Fontana, California. Filmed by: Vital MTB https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1S4sLYNhiOE&ab_channel=VitalMTB    

EDIT: @vessel_bike_project Prototype bike with a floater (floating brake) spotted at the Southridge Winter DH Series in Fontana, California.

Filmed by: Vital MTB

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1S4sLYNhiOE&ab_channel=VitalMTB

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That guy actually hand built that bike, I will drop his instagram below.

@vessel_bike_project

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eljefe1 wrote:

That guy actually hand built that bike, I will drop his instagram below.

@vessel_bike_project

that's awesome!

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jamesma wrote:
 New AXS dropping March 21?

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 New AXS dropping March 21?

kcy4130 wrote:

"the drivetrain of your dreams" ................. Good lord! I've seen some cheesy, over the top marketing before but that really does take the cake! 

Maybe it's cable actuated! 

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3/16/2023 8:51am

Wow, that dog shit logo isn't just a one off. How can you possibly make two letter look so toss?

The tagline of "Level Up" is just as cringey.

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3/16/2023 10:28am Edited Date/Time 3/16/2023 10:29am

If we're poking fun at SRAM marketing, make sure to pay attention for dropped articles in their new AXS press release, too. SRAM hates articles like "the" or "a" in front of their products names. "Lyrik has the most efficient... blah blah blah" or "Zeb is the stiffest... blah blah blah." If you or I talked like that people would think we're crazy. "I drink Coffee® out of Mug® that I put on Table® while I sit in Chair®."

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3/16/2023 10:32am
TEAMROBOT wrote:
If we're poking fun at SRAM marketing, make sure to pay attention for dropped articles in their new AXS press release, too. SRAM hates articles like...

If we're poking fun at SRAM marketing, make sure to pay attention for dropped articles in their new AXS press release, too. SRAM hates articles like "the" or "a" in front of their products names. "Lyrik has the most efficient... blah blah blah" or "Zeb is the stiffest... blah blah blah." If you or I talked like that people would think we're crazy. "I drink Coffee® out of Mug® that I put on Table® while I sit in Chair®."

None of this offends me nearly as much as the cringy AF guerilla marketing Abus just tried.

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TEAMROBOT wrote:
If we're poking fun at SRAM marketing, make sure to pay attention for dropped articles in their new AXS press release, too. SRAM hates articles like...

If we're poking fun at SRAM marketing, make sure to pay attention for dropped articles in their new AXS press release, too. SRAM hates articles like "the" or "a" in front of their products names. "Lyrik has the most efficient... blah blah blah" or "Zeb is the stiffest... blah blah blah." If you or I talked like that people would think we're crazy. "I drink Coffee® out of Mug® that I put on Table® while I sit in Chair®."

As a marketing professional it is standard practice to not use "the" or "a" in front of a name. Lyrik and Zeb are names. Table and chair are objects. Everyone does this. Look at Chevy and Ford. They don't use the F150 or The Silverado.

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ROBBIS TV wrote:
EDIT: @vessel_bike_project Prototype bike with a floater (floating brake) spotted at the Southridge Winter DH Series in Fontana, California. Filmed by: Vital MTB https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1S4sLYNhiOE&ab_channel=VitalMTB    

EDIT: @vessel_bike_project Prototype bike with a floater (floating brake) spotted at the Southridge Winter DH Series in Fontana, California.

Filmed by: Vital MTB

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1S4sLYNhiOE&ab_channel=VitalMTB

Screen Shot 2023-03-15 at 11.04.21 PM 1

 Screen Shot 2023-03-15 at 11.06.11 PM

 

eljefe1 wrote:

That guy actually hand built that bike, I will drop his instagram below.

@vessel_bike_project

Thanks for the info! :D

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3/16/2023 1:56pm Edited Date/Time 3/16/2023 2:34pm

I get what you're saying, but even Ford and Chevy refer to "the new F150" or "the new Silverado" in their marketing materials, which proves that no one in the world actually treats these model names as if they're real names for people. They're object identifiers.

I'm not the Charlie, and the Loic Bruni didn't win senior men's world champs last year, but Loic did win on a Demo 8 with the Ohlins DH38.

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howbout The Loam? 
 

Your evolution into semantics stickler is concerning. 

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Shredding Loam on LYRIK 

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TEAMROBOT wrote:
I get what you're saying, but even Ford and Chevy refer to "the new F150" or "the new Silverado" in their marketing materials, which proves that...

I get what you're saying, but even Ford and Chevy refer to "the new F150" or "the new Silverado" in their marketing materials, which proves that no one in the world actually treats these model names as if they're real names for people. They're object identifiers.

I'm not the Charlie, and the Loic Bruni didn't win senior men's world champs last year, but Loic did win on a Demo 8 with the Ohlins DH38.

with all due respect... I'm not sure you get to chose whether you're Charlie or "The Charlie"... in some circles, you very well could be "The Charlie".  Tongue

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TEAMROBOT wrote:
I get what you're saying, but even Ford and Chevy refer to "the new F150" or "the new Silverado" in their marketing materials, which proves that...

I get what you're saying, but even Ford and Chevy refer to "the new F150" or "the new Silverado" in their marketing materials, which proves that no one in the world actually treats these model names as if they're real names for people. They're object identifiers.

I'm not the Charlie, and the Loic Bruni didn't win senior men's world champs last year, but Loic did win on a Demo 8 with the Ohlins DH38.

Don't let The Jan Ullrich hear this

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TEAMROBOT wrote:
I get what you're saying, but even Ford and Chevy refer to "the new F150" or "the new Silverado" in their marketing materials, which proves that...

I get what you're saying, but even Ford and Chevy refer to "the new F150" or "the new Silverado" in their marketing materials, which proves that no one in the world actually treats these model names as if they're real names for people. They're object identifiers.

I'm not the Charlie, and the Loic Bruni didn't win senior men's world champs last year, but Loic did win on a Demo 8 with the Ohlins DH38.

ebruner wrote:
with all due respect... I'm not sure you get to chose whether you're Charlie or "The Charlie"... in some circles, you very well could be "The...

with all due respect... I'm not sure you get to chose whether you're Charlie or "The Charlie"... in some circles, you very well could be "The Charlie".  Tongue

Charlie sponsored by Toby Henderson Enterprises???

 

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Nino still using the old shifter pod, or doesn't have spares of the new one? PotatoCam screenshot from his post of spares for Cape Epic

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Sometimes I don't get the hate Sram receives.  We are all arguably on better bikes and better drivetrains because of their push for 1x.  One of my favorite bikes ever, the Kona Process 111 was able to be created because of 1x systems (Kona unapologetically designed it without the ability to run a FD).  Color me a Sram fanboy if you'd like, but they aren't afraid to shake up the status quo with new innovations.  I have AXS on my Spur and run the AXS reverb on 2 different bikes and absolutely love it.  I can't wait to see the next-gen stuff.  

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Sometimes I don't get the hate Sram receives.  We are all arguably on better bikes and better drivetrains because of their push for 1x.  One of...

Sometimes I don't get the hate Sram receives.  We are all arguably on better bikes and better drivetrains because of their push for 1x.  One of my favorite bikes ever, the Kona Process 111 was able to be created because of 1x systems (Kona unapologetically designed it without the ability to run a FD).  Color me a Sram fanboy if you'd like, but they aren't afraid to shake up the status quo with new innovations.  I have AXS on my Spur and run the AXS reverb on 2 different bikes and absolutely love it.  I can't wait to see the next-gen stuff.  

Tell me you're a sram employee, without telling me you're a sram employee: "AXS reverb on 2 different bikes" 

Kidding aside, if sram didn't make that 1x push, shimano would have us all on 4 chainring setups right now. But let's also be honest that sram really did the 1x push because they couldn't make a well working ft der if their lives depended on it! 

 

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Sram is awesome, but if they don't sell a decent rear derailleur without a battery, I'm out...

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Sometimes I don't get the hate Sram receives.  We are all arguably on better bikes and better drivetrains because of their push for 1x.  One of...

Sometimes I don't get the hate Sram receives.  We are all arguably on better bikes and better drivetrains because of their push for 1x.  One of my favorite bikes ever, the Kona Process 111 was able to be created because of 1x systems (Kona unapologetically designed it without the ability to run a FD).  Color me a Sram fanboy if you'd like, but they aren't afraid to shake up the status quo with new innovations.  I have AXS on my Spur and run the AXS reverb on 2 different bikes and absolutely love it.  I can't wait to see the next-gen stuff.  

DubC wrote:
Tell me you're a sram employee, without telling me you're a sram employee: "AXS reverb on 2 different bikes"  Kidding aside, if sram didn't make that 1x...

Tell me you're a sram employee, without telling me you're a sram employee: "AXS reverb on 2 different bikes" 

Kidding aside, if sram didn't make that 1x push, shimano would have us all on 4 chainring setups right now. But let's also be honest that sram really did the 1x push because they couldn't make a well working ft der if their lives depended on it! 

 

The FD'ers were pretty bad.  At the shop I worked at in College, we would use the rotor trueing tool on the FD cages to bend and shape them to operate better.  

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