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mfoga
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Curious if how that relationship ended.  Did he really communicate with them his plans towards the end of last contract?  What was the negotiations like as it was ended.  If he left them with a sour taste and now you want our help again.  Not saying it's that but sometimes athletes have false sense of worth when they bring less and less to the table. 

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mfoga wrote:
Curious if how that relationship ended.  Did he really communicate with them his plans towards the end of last contract?  What was the negotiations like as...

Curious if how that relationship ended.  Did he really communicate with them his plans towards the end of last contract?  What was the negotiations like as it was ended.  If he left them with a sour taste and now you want our help again.  Not saying it's that but sometimes athletes have false sense of worth when they bring less and less to the table. 

"can’t even make an effort to reply to emails or messages"

Is the take away ghosting is a weak mans way of dealing with things. Sam has had many closers with sponsors over the years I don't remember a time he spoke ill of any them after. I'm inlined to believe Sam. 

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mfoga wrote:
Curious if how that relationship ended.  Did he really communicate with them his plans towards the end of last contract?  What was the negotiations like as...

Curious if how that relationship ended.  Did he really communicate with them his plans towards the end of last contract?  What was the negotiations like as it was ended.  If he left them with a sour taste and now you want our help again.  Not saying it's that but sometimes athletes have false sense of worth when they bring less and less to the table. 

vinny4130 wrote:
"can’t even make an effort to reply to emails or messages"Is the take away ghosting is a weak mans way of dealing with things. Sam...

"can’t even make an effort to reply to emails or messages"

Is the take away ghosting is a weak mans way of dealing with things. Sam has had many closers with sponsors over the years I don't remember a time he spoke ill of any them after. I'm inlined to believe Sam. 

As someone has had previous employees contact me (not that i had the power to affect their rehire-ability or chances in an interview) it would have to literally be someone i didn't feel safe talking to, to not at least give them a "sorry, we don't have room for you on the program this year" email.

of course, i've worked with lots of folks who don't have that kind professionality, however.

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Phil Atwill and the Propain Positive team appear to have parted ways with Propain. Instagram is now labeled "Positive Crew". They're either up for grabs or stepping back from UCI level racing. Hopefully somebody gives them the steam for more World Cup racing, Phil has some of the most unique bike handling skills around.

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mfoga wrote:
Curious if how that relationship ended.  Did he really communicate with them his plans towards the end of last contract?  What was the negotiations like as...

Curious if how that relationship ended.  Did he really communicate with them his plans towards the end of last contract?  What was the negotiations like as it was ended.  If he left them with a sour taste and now you want our help again.  Not saying it's that but sometimes athletes have false sense of worth when they bring less and less to the table. 

He was with nukeproof for the last 5? Ish.. maybe 7? Years of his racing career.. and then out of nowhere nukeproof closed its doors leaving riders and staff without jobs, or rides and owing quite a few of them money. 
Needless to say This wasnt a good way for the relationship to end, but it was Sam getting screwed and not the other way around.
 

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vinny4130
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Talk to the person having having had a relationship with & listen to them, after there is nothing wrong with replying "I'm sorry i wish we could help this round but we can't" is all that needs to be done. 

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Ghosting Sam Hill? They’re gonna be kicking themselves after he wins that easy Tasmania Hardline race by 25 seconds. 
 

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hreylalno wrote:
Phil Atwill and the Propain Positive team appear to have parted ways with Propain. Instagram is now labeled "Positive Crew". They're either up for grabs or...

Phil Atwill and the Propain Positive team appear to have parted ways with Propain. Instagram is now labeled "Positive Crew". They're either up for grabs or stepping back from UCI level racing. Hopefully somebody gives them the steam for more World Cup racing, Phil has some of the most unique bike handling skills around.

i don't why or if it's related, but I've heard that Propain made a good offer to one of the biggest Italian teams, primarily Enduro. I don't know how the negotiations went on, especially since Propain doesn't really have a team anymore, now even without Positive...

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Vergier to Commencal Muc off or Commencal Les orres ?

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nico.frc wrote:
Vergier to Commencal Muc off or Commencal Les orres ?

Vergier to Commencal Muc off or Commencal Les orres ?

Considering he's world champ you'd think he'd be on the muc off team, but then again someone said Dan atherton could win a World Cup this year so any thing is possible

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hreylalno wrote:
Phil Atwill and the Propain Positive team appear to have parted ways with Propain. Instagram is now labeled "Positive Crew". They're either up for grabs or...

Phil Atwill and the Propain Positive team appear to have parted ways with Propain. Instagram is now labeled "Positive Crew". They're either up for grabs or stepping back from UCI level racing. Hopefully somebody gives them the steam for more World Cup racing, Phil has some of the most unique bike handling skills around.

i don't why or if it's related, but I've heard that Propain made a good offer to one of the biggest Italian teams, primarily Enduro. I...

i don't why or if it's related, but I've heard that Propain made a good offer to one of the biggest Italian teams, primarily Enduro. I don't know how the negotiations went on, especially since Propain doesn't really have a team anymore, now even without Positive...

With respect Phil has been struggling to be a regular top 30 finisher the last few years. And like Kade and Kaos his skills may be more valuable  producing content rather than racing World cups.

And that sucks cos those boys really lit up the vital raw , sleeper co.  and Ben cathro videos over the world cup weekends. 

Sad to see the gifted  steezy and technical riders are being forced out of the racing side of the sport now . I wanna see some rowdy shit being done on some wild lines not just a load of Frenchies deathgripping it on ski pistes

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Phil losing sponsorship almost annoys me the most out of all of this. All the guy has to do is post a phone clip on a dodgy pleney loamer and I'm convinced to buy the bike. Brands will regret giving up large engagment numbers on social media just to save a few quid in the short term.

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mfoga wrote:
Curious if how that relationship ended.  Did he really communicate with them his plans towards the end of last contract?  What was the negotiations like as...

Curious if how that relationship ended.  Did he really communicate with them his plans towards the end of last contract?  What was the negotiations like as it was ended.  If he left them with a sour taste and now you want our help again.  Not saying it's that but sometimes athletes have false sense of worth when they bring less and less to the table. 

He was with nukeproof for the last 5? Ish.. maybe 7? Years of his racing career.. and then out of nowhere nukeproof closed its doors leaving...

He was with nukeproof for the last 5? Ish.. maybe 7? Years of his racing career.. and then out of nowhere nukeproof closed its doors leaving riders and staff without jobs, or rides and owing quite a few of them money. 
Needless to say This wasnt a good way for the relationship to end, but it was Sam getting screwed and not the other way around.
 

Try 10 years.. Sam was on Nukeproof from 2013-2023 and Sram/Rockshox for nearly 20 years (2005ish to 2024?)

Regardless, stoked to see him and some other "old dogs" race Hardline in less than a month

edit, apparently I can't count because 13-23 is 11 seasons

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Anton Cooper at NZ XC series, new bike, new team?

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Here's some more bad screenshots. Top tube-seat tube junction does look like the Yeti 

Screenshot 2025-01-13-15-51-40-865 com.instagram.android.jpg?VersionId=Cn Ty7Q uHlel6bZPIjrLFxm0Here's some more bad screenshots. Top tube-seat tube junction does look like the Yeti 

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Pretty sure you can see the chain in this shot (2nd screengrab), most likely not Pivot since the double chainring configuration keeps the chain higher. Could be wrong though.

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mfoga wrote:
Curious if how that relationship ended.  Did he really communicate with them his plans towards the end of last contract?  What was the negotiations like as...

Curious if how that relationship ended.  Did he really communicate with them his plans towards the end of last contract?  What was the negotiations like as it was ended.  If he left them with a sour taste and now you want our help again.  Not saying it's that but sometimes athletes have false sense of worth when they bring less and less to the table. 

He was with nukeproof for the last 5? Ish.. maybe 7? Years of his racing career.. and then out of nowhere nukeproof closed its doors leaving...

He was with nukeproof for the last 5? Ish.. maybe 7? Years of his racing career.. and then out of nowhere nukeproof closed its doors leaving riders and staff without jobs, or rides and owing quite a few of them money. 
Needless to say This wasnt a good way for the relationship to end, but it was Sam getting screwed and not the other way around.
 

tstep wrote:
Try 10 years.. Sam was on Nukeproof from 2013-2023 and Sram/Rockshox for nearly 20 years (2005ish to 2024?)Regardless, stoked to see him and some other "old...

Try 10 years.. Sam was on Nukeproof from 2013-2023 and Sram/Rockshox for nearly 20 years (2005ish to 2024?)

Regardless, stoked to see him and some other "old dogs" race Hardline in less than a month

edit, apparently I can't count because 13-23 is 11 seasons

I was thinking 5ten. How many flat pedal shoes did he sell for them for many many years? Boat loads for sure. Oh well, pass on adidas. Ride concepts should drop a dime

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With respect Phil has been struggling to be a regular top 30 finisher the last few years. And like Kade and Kaos his skills may be...

With respect Phil has been struggling to be a regular top 30 finisher the last few years. And like Kade and Kaos his skills may be more valuable  producing content rather than racing World cups.

And that sucks cos those boys really lit up the vital raw , sleeper co.  and Ben cathro videos over the world cup weekends. 

Sad to see the gifted  steezy and technical riders are being forced out of the racing side of the sport now . I wanna see some rowdy shit being done on some wild lines not just a load of Frenchies deathgripping it on ski pistes

‘A load of Frenchies deathgripping it on ski pistes’ is my whole mood for 2025.

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grinch wrote:
I was thinking 5ten. How many flat pedal shoes did he sell for them for many many years? Boat loads for sure. Oh well, pass on...

I was thinking 5ten. How many flat pedal shoes did he sell for them for many many years? Boat loads for sure. Oh well, pass on adidas. Ride concepts should drop a dime

To me it was clear it was SRAM, he was a Blackbox athlete, all that jazz. But you make an interesting assessment here and I could be in the wrong. And thinking of that, I realise that Stikman is very active on this forum, works for SRAM (although not with athletes, from what I understand) and I just couldn't picture somebody in that environment ignoring Sam. But it seems weird him not listing SRAM as support...

Mx

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With respect Phil has been struggling to be a regular top 30 finisher the last few years. And like Kade and Kaos his skills may be...

With respect Phil has been struggling to be a regular top 30 finisher the last few years. And like Kade and Kaos his skills may be more valuable  producing content rather than racing World cups.

And that sucks cos those boys really lit up the vital raw , sleeper co.  and Ben cathro videos over the world cup weekends. 

Sad to see the gifted  steezy and technical riders are being forced out of the racing side of the sport now . I wanna see some rowdy shit being done on some wild lines not just a load of Frenchies deathgripping it on ski pistes

Pardon my French, but Momo on Les Gets 2024 (and Momo -period) or even any Thirion line is anything but "deathgripping on a ski slope".

 

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Maxipedia wrote:
To me it was clear it was SRAM, he was a Blackbox athlete, all that jazz. But you make an interesting assessment here and I could...

To me it was clear it was SRAM, he was a Blackbox athlete, all that jazz. But you make an interesting assessment here and I could be in the wrong. And thinking of that, I realise that Stikman is very active on this forum, works for SRAM (although not with athletes, from what I understand) and I just couldn't picture somebody in that environment ignoring Sam. But it seems weird him not listing SRAM as support...

Mx

His ex teammate Elliott Heap is also riding a Foes and has a load of Hope components fitted, which could also suggest SRAM were not onboard with the whole Foes project. 

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With respect Phil has been struggling to be a regular top 30 finisher the last few years. And like Kade and Kaos his skills may be...

With respect Phil has been struggling to be a regular top 30 finisher the last few years. And like Kade and Kaos his skills may be more valuable  producing content rather than racing World cups.

And that sucks cos those boys really lit up the vital raw , sleeper co.  and Ben cathro videos over the world cup weekends. 

Sad to see the gifted  steezy and technical riders are being forced out of the racing side of the sport now . I wanna see some rowdy shit being done on some wild lines not just a load of Frenchies deathgripping it on ski pistes

Nico_Hrndz wrote:

Pardon my French, but Momo on Les Gets 2024 (and Momo -period) or even any Thirion line is anything but "deathgripping on a ski slope".

 

The immaculately  honed skills of the French riders differs immensely from the wild flair of the  British riders I mentioned . Thomas estaque  and Hugo frixtalon are entertaining  skillful riders who are completely different  to Benoit, loic and loris and amaury. Those boys are elite racers who have have supercharged wild winning runs but they're not the guys who pull sick whips and doubles when they don't have to .

Some of the most entertaining riders in the past ten years have been guys who weren't on the podium regularly  and it will be a shame to not see them at races from now coz they can't get a ride in "the business" 

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Big news from SCOTT today as they welcome Benoît Coulanges to the team.

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The SCOTT DH Factory is thrilled to welcome none other than current Vice World Champion and two-time World Cup winner Benoît Coulanges to the team. This exciting French addition will strengthen the squad for the 2025 DH racing season and beyond.

DH-FACTORY HQ 2025 SCOTT BIKE PHOTO BY MichaelRiehle 11

At 30 years old, Benoît Coulanges is already a force to be reckoned with in the downhill scene. During his time with Team Dorval AM, he built an impressive résumé, claiming two French Championship titles and earning countless World Cup podiums. Known for his blistering speed, pinpoint precision, and relentless determination, Benoît is a serious threat on any race weekend. Needless to say, he’s hungry to reclaim the top step of the podium.

DH-FACTORY HQ 2025 SCOTT BIKE PHOTO BY MichaelRiehle 34.jpg?VersionId=BgVncoD2

Benoît joins the team roster, including rising talents Dylan Levesque and Gonçalo Bandeira, who are eager to make their mark on the international downhill scene. Both riders have shown their potential and are in the start gate to push their limits in the upcoming season, learning from each race and gaining valuable experience alongside their new teammate.

After a challenging year of injury and recovery, Ethan Craik is also set to make his long-anticipated return. Determined and hungry for success, he’s ready to prove his resilience and skill, aiming to reclaim his place among the top guys. With his grit and determination, Ethan is prepared to battle for the top step of the podium and inspire with his comeback story.

With the race season fast approaching, the SCOTT DH Factory team is geared up and ready. A dedicated training camp will kick things off — perfecting bike setups, honing their skills, and pushing the limits on World Cup-worthy terrain. Buckle up and stay tuned — it’s going to be a wild ride!!

DH-FACTORY HQ 2025 SCOTT BIKE PHOTO BY MichaelRiehle 12

"I’m very happy to join the SCOTT DH Factory. SCOTT is an incredible partner for my growth and performance. I can’t even pinpoint what I’m looking forward to most - I just can’t wait to be back in the start gate!"

Benoît Coulanges
SCOTT DH Factory 

“We are looking ahead to an exciting season of racing with our newest addition to the DH Factory team, Benoît Coulanges. With this tall Frenchman, we have a very competitive team structure that will hopefully translate into success down the road.”

Patrice Afflatet
Team Manager
SCOTT DH Factory 

The SCOTT DH Factory - Partnerships

Kicking off 2025, the SCOTT DH Factory is stoked to keep rolling with our incredible long-term partners!

We’re also thrilled to welcome MICHELIN as our new tire partner. With MICHELIN's legendary grip, the team is ready to shred every track and tackle any conditions that come our way.

Additionally, MOTOREX joins the team, ensuring every component runs at peak efficiency and top performance. Their cutting-edge lubricants and maintenance products will keep our race bikes dialed in all season long.

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Some XC related news. 

Rebecca Henderson, Simon Andreassen & Jennifer Jackson all on Orbea-Fox factory team. 

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iceman2058 wrote:
Big news from SCOTT today as they welcome Benoît Coulanges to the team.-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------The SCOTT DH Factory is thrilled to welcome none other than current Vice World...

Big news from SCOTT today as they welcome Benoît Coulanges to the team.

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The SCOTT DH Factory is thrilled to welcome none other than current Vice World Champion and two-time World Cup winner Benoît Coulanges to the team. This exciting French addition will strengthen the squad for the 2025 DH racing season and beyond.

DH-FACTORY HQ 2025 SCOTT BIKE PHOTO BY MichaelRiehle 11

At 30 years old, Benoît Coulanges is already a force to be reckoned with in the downhill scene. During his time with Team Dorval AM, he built an impressive résumé, claiming two French Championship titles and earning countless World Cup podiums. Known for his blistering speed, pinpoint precision, and relentless determination, Benoît is a serious threat on any race weekend. Needless to say, he’s hungry to reclaim the top step of the podium.

DH-FACTORY HQ 2025 SCOTT BIKE PHOTO BY MichaelRiehle 34.jpg?VersionId=BgVncoD2

Benoît joins the team roster, including rising talents Dylan Levesque and Gonçalo Bandeira, who are eager to make their mark on the international downhill scene. Both riders have shown their potential and are in the start gate to push their limits in the upcoming season, learning from each race and gaining valuable experience alongside their new teammate.

After a challenging year of injury and recovery, Ethan Craik is also set to make his long-anticipated return. Determined and hungry for success, he’s ready to prove his resilience and skill, aiming to reclaim his place among the top guys. With his grit and determination, Ethan is prepared to battle for the top step of the podium and inspire with his comeback story.

With the race season fast approaching, the SCOTT DH Factory team is geared up and ready. A dedicated training camp will kick things off — perfecting bike setups, honing their skills, and pushing the limits on World Cup-worthy terrain. Buckle up and stay tuned — it’s going to be a wild ride!!

DH-FACTORY HQ 2025 SCOTT BIKE PHOTO BY MichaelRiehle 12

"I’m very happy to join the SCOTT DH Factory. SCOTT is an incredible partner for my growth and performance. I can’t even pinpoint what I’m looking forward to most - I just can’t wait to be back in the start gate!"

Benoît Coulanges
SCOTT DH Factory 

“We are looking ahead to an exciting season of racing with our newest addition to the DH Factory team, Benoît Coulanges. With this tall Frenchman, we have a very competitive team structure that will hopefully translate into success down the road.”

Patrice Afflatet
Team Manager
SCOTT DH Factory 

The SCOTT DH Factory - Partnerships

Kicking off 2025, the SCOTT DH Factory is stoked to keep rolling with our incredible long-term partners!

We’re also thrilled to welcome MICHELIN as our new tire partner. With MICHELIN's legendary grip, the team is ready to shred every track and tackle any conditions that come our way.

Additionally, MOTOREX joins the team, ensuring every component runs at peak efficiency and top performance. Their cutting-edge lubricants and maintenance products will keep our race bikes dialed in all season long.

aaaaaaaaah, there it is. This is one of the big ones I was waiting for.

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With respect Phil has been struggling to be a regular top 30 finisher the last few years. And like Kade and Kaos his skills may be...

With respect Phil has been struggling to be a regular top 30 finisher the last few years. And like Kade and Kaos his skills may be more valuable  producing content rather than racing World cups.

And that sucks cos those boys really lit up the vital raw , sleeper co.  and Ben cathro videos over the world cup weekends. 

Sad to see the gifted  steezy and technical riders are being forced out of the racing side of the sport now . I wanna see some rowdy shit being done on some wild lines not just a load of Frenchies deathgripping it on ski pistes

Nico_Hrndz wrote:

Pardon my French, but Momo on Les Gets 2024 (and Momo -period) or even any Thirion line is anything but "deathgripping on a ski slope".

 

When Momo is between the tape, the only death grip involved is between my butt cheeks and the couch cushion. 

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