Curious if how that relationship ended. Did he really communicate with them his plans towards the end of last contract? What was the negotiations like as it was ended. If he left them with a sour taste and now you want our help again. Not saying it's that but sometimes athletes have false sense of worth when they bring less and less to the table.
Curious if how that relationship ended. Did he really communicate with them his plans towards the end of last contract? What was the negotiations like as...
Curious if how that relationship ended. Did he really communicate with them his plans towards the end of last contract? What was the negotiations like as it was ended. If he left them with a sour taste and now you want our help again. Not saying it's that but sometimes athletes have false sense of worth when they bring less and less to the table.
"can’t even make an effort to reply to emails or messages"
Is the take away ghosting is a weak mans way of dealing with things. Sam has had many closers with sponsors over the years I don't remember a time he spoke ill of any them after. I'm inlined to believe Sam.
Curious if how that relationship ended. Did he really communicate with them his plans towards the end of last contract? What was the negotiations like as...
Curious if how that relationship ended. Did he really communicate with them his plans towards the end of last contract? What was the negotiations like as it was ended. If he left them with a sour taste and now you want our help again. Not saying it's that but sometimes athletes have false sense of worth when they bring less and less to the table.
"can’t even make an effort to reply to emails or messages"Is the take away ghosting is a weak mans way of dealing with things. Sam...
"can’t even make an effort to reply to emails or messages"
Is the take away ghosting is a weak mans way of dealing with things. Sam has had many closers with sponsors over the years I don't remember a time he spoke ill of any them after. I'm inlined to believe Sam.
As someone has had previous employees contact me (not that i had the power to affect their rehire-ability or chances in an interview) it would have to literally be someone i didn't feel safe talking to, to not at least give them a "sorry, we don't have room for you on the program this year" email.
of course, i've worked with lots of folks who don't have that kind professionality, however.
Phil Atwill and the Propain Positive team appear to have parted ways with Propain. Instagram is now labeled "Positive Crew". They're either up for grabs or stepping back from UCI level racing. Hopefully somebody gives them the steam for more World Cup racing, Phil has some of the most unique bike handling skills around.
Curious if how that relationship ended. Did he really communicate with them his plans towards the end of last contract? What was the negotiations like as...
Curious if how that relationship ended. Did he really communicate with them his plans towards the end of last contract? What was the negotiations like as it was ended. If he left them with a sour taste and now you want our help again. Not saying it's that but sometimes athletes have false sense of worth when they bring less and less to the table.
He was with nukeproof for the last 5? Ish.. maybe 7? Years of his racing career.. and then out of nowhere nukeproof closed its doors leaving riders and staff without jobs, or rides and owing quite a few of them money. Needless to say This wasnt a good way for the relationship to end, but it was Sam getting screwed and not the other way around.
Talk to the person having having had a relationship with & listen to them, after there is nothing wrong with replying "I'm sorry i wish we could help this round but we can't" is all that needs to be done.
Phil Atwill and the Propain Positive team appear to have parted ways with Propain. Instagram is now labeled "Positive Crew". They're either up for grabs or...
Phil Atwill and the Propain Positive team appear to have parted ways with Propain. Instagram is now labeled "Positive Crew". They're either up for grabs or stepping back from UCI level racing. Hopefully somebody gives them the steam for more World Cup racing, Phil has some of the most unique bike handling skills around.
i don't why or if it's related, but I've heard that Propain made a good offer to one of the biggest Italian teams, primarily Enduro. I don't know how the negotiations went on, especially since Propain doesn't really have a team anymore, now even without Positive...
Vergier to Commencal Muc off or Commencal Les orres ?
Vergier to Commencal Muc off or Commencal Les orres ?
Considering he's world champ you'd think he'd be on the muc off team, but then again someone said Dan atherton could win a World Cup this year so any thing is possible
Phil Atwill and the Propain Positive team appear to have parted ways with Propain. Instagram is now labeled "Positive Crew". They're either up for grabs or...
Phil Atwill and the Propain Positive team appear to have parted ways with Propain. Instagram is now labeled "Positive Crew". They're either up for grabs or stepping back from UCI level racing. Hopefully somebody gives them the steam for more World Cup racing, Phil has some of the most unique bike handling skills around.
i don't why or if it's related, but I've heard that Propain made a good offer to one of the biggest Italian teams, primarily Enduro. I...
i don't why or if it's related, but I've heard that Propain made a good offer to one of the biggest Italian teams, primarily Enduro. I don't know how the negotiations went on, especially since Propain doesn't really have a team anymore, now even without Positive...
With respect Phil has been struggling to be a regular top 30 finisher the last few years. And like Kade and Kaos his skills may be more valuable producing content rather than racing World cups.
And that sucks cos those boys really lit up the vital raw , sleeper co. and Ben cathro videos over the world cup weekends.
Sad to see the gifted steezy and technical riders are being forced out of the racing side of the sport now . I wanna see some rowdy shit being done on some wild lines not just a load of Frenchies deathgripping it on ski pistes
Phil losing sponsorship almost annoys me the most out of all of this. All the guy has to do is post a phone clip on a dodgy pleney loamer and I'm convinced to buy the bike. Brands will regret giving up large engagment numbers on social media just to save a few quid in the short term.
Curious if how that relationship ended. Did he really communicate with them his plans towards the end of last contract? What was the negotiations like as...
Curious if how that relationship ended. Did he really communicate with them his plans towards the end of last contract? What was the negotiations like as it was ended. If he left them with a sour taste and now you want our help again. Not saying it's that but sometimes athletes have false sense of worth when they bring less and less to the table.
He was with nukeproof for the last 5? Ish.. maybe 7? Years of his racing career.. and then out of nowhere nukeproof closed its doors leaving...
He was with nukeproof for the last 5? Ish.. maybe 7? Years of his racing career.. and then out of nowhere nukeproof closed its doors leaving riders and staff without jobs, or rides and owing quite a few of them money. Needless to say This wasnt a good way for the relationship to end, but it was Sam getting screwed and not the other way around.
Try 10 years.. Sam was on Nukeproof from 2013-2023 and Sram/Rockshox for nearly 20 years (2005ish to 2024?)
Regardless, stoked to see him and some other "old dogs" race Hardline in less than a month
edit, apparently I can't count because 13-23 is 11 seasons
Here's some more bad screenshots. Top tube-seat tube junction does look like the Yeti
Here's some more bad screenshots. Top tube-seat tube junction does look like the Yeti
Pretty sure you can see the chain in this shot (2nd screengrab), most likely not Pivot since the double chainring configuration keeps the chain higher. Could be wrong though.
Curious if how that relationship ended. Did he really communicate with them his plans towards the end of last contract? What was the negotiations like as...
Curious if how that relationship ended. Did he really communicate with them his plans towards the end of last contract? What was the negotiations like as it was ended. If he left them with a sour taste and now you want our help again. Not saying it's that but sometimes athletes have false sense of worth when they bring less and less to the table.
He was with nukeproof for the last 5? Ish.. maybe 7? Years of his racing career.. and then out of nowhere nukeproof closed its doors leaving...
He was with nukeproof for the last 5? Ish.. maybe 7? Years of his racing career.. and then out of nowhere nukeproof closed its doors leaving riders and staff without jobs, or rides and owing quite a few of them money. Needless to say This wasnt a good way for the relationship to end, but it was Sam getting screwed and not the other way around.
Try 10 years.. Sam was on Nukeproof from 2013-2023 and Sram/Rockshox for nearly 20 years (2005ish to 2024?)Regardless, stoked to see him and some other "old...
Try 10 years.. Sam was on Nukeproof from 2013-2023 and Sram/Rockshox for nearly 20 years (2005ish to 2024?)
Regardless, stoked to see him and some other "old dogs" race Hardline in less than a month
edit, apparently I can't count because 13-23 is 11 seasons
I was thinking 5ten. How many flat pedal shoes did he sell for them for many many years? Boat loads for sure. Oh well, pass on adidas. Ride concepts should drop a dime
With respect Phil has been struggling to be a regular top 30 finisher the last few years. And like Kade and Kaos his skills may be...
With respect Phil has been struggling to be a regular top 30 finisher the last few years. And like Kade and Kaos his skills may be more valuable producing content rather than racing World cups.
And that sucks cos those boys really lit up the vital raw , sleeper co. and Ben cathro videos over the world cup weekends.
Sad to see the gifted steezy and technical riders are being forced out of the racing side of the sport now . I wanna see some rowdy shit being done on some wild lines not just a load of Frenchies deathgripping it on ski pistes
‘A load of Frenchies deathgripping it on ski pistes’ is my whole mood for 2025.
I was thinking 5ten. How many flat pedal shoes did he sell for them for many many years? Boat loads for sure. Oh well, pass on...
I was thinking 5ten. How many flat pedal shoes did he sell for them for many many years? Boat loads for sure. Oh well, pass on adidas. Ride concepts should drop a dime
To me it was clear it was SRAM, he was a Blackbox athlete, all that jazz. But you make an interesting assessment here and I could be in the wrong. And thinking of that, I realise that Stikman is very active on this forum, works for SRAM (although not with athletes, from what I understand) and I just couldn't picture somebody in that environment ignoring Sam. But it seems weird him not listing SRAM as support...
With respect Phil has been struggling to be a regular top 30 finisher the last few years. And like Kade and Kaos his skills may be...
With respect Phil has been struggling to be a regular top 30 finisher the last few years. And like Kade and Kaos his skills may be more valuable producing content rather than racing World cups.
And that sucks cos those boys really lit up the vital raw , sleeper co. and Ben cathro videos over the world cup weekends.
Sad to see the gifted steezy and technical riders are being forced out of the racing side of the sport now . I wanna see some rowdy shit being done on some wild lines not just a load of Frenchies deathgripping it on ski pistes
Pardon my French, but Momo on Les Gets 2024 (and Momo -period) or even any Thirion line is anything but "deathgripping on a ski slope".
Curious if how that relationship ended. Did he really communicate with them his plans towards the end of last contract? What was the negotiations like as it was ended. If he left them with a sour taste and now you want our help again. Not saying it's that but sometimes athletes have false sense of worth when they bring less and less to the table.
"can’t even make an effort to reply to emails or messages"
Is the take away ghosting is a weak mans way of dealing with things. Sam has had many closers with sponsors over the years I don't remember a time he spoke ill of any them after. I'm inlined to believe Sam.
As someone has had previous employees contact me (not that i had the power to affect their rehire-ability or chances in an interview) it would have to literally be someone i didn't feel safe talking to, to not at least give them a "sorry, we don't have room for you on the program this year" email.
of course, i've worked with lots of folks who don't have that kind professionality, however.
Phil Atwill and the Propain Positive team appear to have parted ways with Propain. Instagram is now labeled "Positive Crew". They're either up for grabs or stepping back from UCI level racing. Hopefully somebody gives them the steam for more World Cup racing, Phil has some of the most unique bike handling skills around.
He was with nukeproof for the last 5? Ish.. maybe 7? Years of his racing career.. and then out of nowhere nukeproof closed its doors leaving riders and staff without jobs, or rides and owing quite a few of them money.
Needless to say This wasnt a good way for the relationship to end, but it was Sam getting screwed and not the other way around.
Talk to the person having having had a relationship with & listen to them, after there is nothing wrong with replying "I'm sorry i wish we could help this round but we can't" is all that needs to be done.
Ghosting Sam Hill? They’re gonna be kicking themselves after he wins that easy Tasmania Hardline race by 25 seconds.
i don't why or if it's related, but I've heard that Propain made a good offer to one of the biggest Italian teams, primarily Enduro. I don't know how the negotiations went on, especially since Propain doesn't really have a team anymore, now even without Positive...
Vergier to Commencal Muc off or Commencal Les orres ?![]()
Considering he's world champ you'd think he'd be on the muc off team, but then again someone said Dan atherton could win a World Cup this year so any thing is possible
With respect Phil has been struggling to be a regular top 30 finisher the last few years. And like Kade and Kaos his skills may be more valuable producing content rather than racing World cups.
And that sucks cos those boys really lit up the vital raw , sleeper co. and Ben cathro videos over the world cup weekends.
Sad to see the gifted steezy and technical riders are being forced out of the racing side of the sport now . I wanna see some rowdy shit being done on some wild lines not just a load of Frenchies deathgripping it on ski pistes
Phil losing sponsorship almost annoys me the most out of all of this. All the guy has to do is post a phone clip on a dodgy pleney loamer and I'm convinced to buy the bike. Brands will regret giving up large engagment numbers on social media just to save a few quid in the short term.
Try 10 years.. Sam was on Nukeproof from 2013-2023 and Sram/Rockshox for nearly 20 years (2005ish to 2024?)
Regardless, stoked to see him and some other "old dogs" race Hardline in less than a month
edit, apparently I can't count because 13-23 is 11 seasons
Anton Cooper at NZ XC series, new bike, new team?
Pretty sure you can see the chain in this shot (2nd screengrab), most likely not Pivot since the double chainring configuration keeps the chain higher. Could be wrong though.
I was thinking 5ten. How many flat pedal shoes did he sell for them for many many years? Boat loads for sure. Oh well, pass on adidas. Ride concepts should drop a dime
‘A load of Frenchies deathgripping it on ski pistes’ is my whole mood for 2025.
To me it was clear it was SRAM, he was a Blackbox athlete, all that jazz. But you make an interesting assessment here and I could be in the wrong. And thinking of that, I realise that Stikman is very active on this forum, works for SRAM (although not with athletes, from what I understand) and I just couldn't picture somebody in that environment ignoring Sam. But it seems weird him not listing SRAM as support...
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Pardon my French, but Momo on Les Gets 2024 (and Momo -period) or even any Thirion line is anything but "deathgripping on a ski slope".
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