Will more companies be shutting down in the next 12-24 months?

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1/9/2024 10:07am

Crazy.  And like others said, there are just as many "small" builders.  I recently got a custom steel hardtail built by Neuhaus Metal Works.  He's doing so well with his frames that he recently had to move to a bigger shop.  

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1/9/2024 10:59am
Ksilvey10 wrote:
I put together a (certainly incomplete) list of MTB manufacturers who make at least one legit MTB model. I am at 103. That is wayyyyyyyy too...

I put together a (certainly incomplete) list of MTB manufacturers who make at least one legit MTB model. I am at 103. That is wayyyyyyyy too many slices of pie. It's no wonder so many won't survive. 

Here's the list. What companies am I missing (some are closing down currently)

https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vS9c5gF00cIM_uuUDH66n_WAbPA…

Missing Production Privee, Forestal and Pace Cycles?

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1/9/2024 11:12am
Ksilvey10 wrote:
I put together a (certainly incomplete) list of MTB manufacturers who make at least one legit MTB model. I am at 103. That is wayyyyyyyy too...

I put together a (certainly incomplete) list of MTB manufacturers who make at least one legit MTB model. I am at 103. That is wayyyyyyyy too many slices of pie. It's no wonder so many won't survive. 

Here's the list. What companies am I missing (some are closing down currently)

https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vS9c5gF00cIM_uuUDH66n_WAbPA…

Mde bikes Smile

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Ksilvey10
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1/9/2024 11:47am

The parameters for my list were they had to make a legit, full suspension, non-e-bike frame. 

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1/9/2024 1:32pm Edited Date/Time 1/9/2024 1:33pm
Ksilvey10 wrote:
I put together a (certainly incomplete) list of MTB manufacturers who make at least one legit MTB model. I am at 103. That is wayyyyyyyy too...

I put together a (certainly incomplete) list of MTB manufacturers who make at least one legit MTB model. I am at 103. That is wayyyyyyyy too many slices of pie. It's no wonder so many won't survive. 

Here's the list. What companies am I missing (some are closing down currently)

https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vS9c5gF00cIM_uuUDH66n_WAbPA…

ARC8, Bulls*, Octane One.  Craftworks is dormant at the moment but I hope it's not gone for good.

*Not sure if Bulls uses catalogue frames.  I think there are probably a lot more relatively obscure German brands out there too.

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1/9/2024 1:48pm
Ksilvey10 wrote:

The parameters for my list were they had to make a legit, full suspension, non-e-bike frame. 

Caloi (sponsors Avancini)
Thömus
American Eagle
Kross

Those are mostly XC bikes (and may be catalog frames for all I know) but putting them out there...

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1/9/2024 2:20pm

You mean to tell me Black Market is still a functioning, operating manufacturer?Blink

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Curtis Bikes? They have been in the game for years, make a few full sus frames and have, I think, won a few awards along the way (for building). 

Great list though!

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1/9/2024 5:36pm Edited Date/Time 1/9/2024 5:37pm
HexonJuan wrote:
You mean to tell me Black Market is still a functioning, operating manufacturer?

You mean to tell me Black Market is still a functioning, operating manufacturer?Blink

They've been done for a long time, like 2013 I think.  Fun fact, my profile picture is a Black Market Mob, loved that bike until somebody decided they wanted it more and stole it.

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1/9/2024 7:10pm Edited Date/Time 1/9/2024 7:11pm
Ksilvey10 wrote:
I put together a (certainly incomplete) list of MTB manufacturers who make at least one legit MTB model. I am at 103. That is wayyyyyyyy too...

I put together a (certainly incomplete) list of MTB manufacturers who make at least one legit MTB model. I am at 103. That is wayyyyyyyy too many slices of pie. It's no wonder so many won't survive. 

Here's the list. What companies am I missing (some are closing down currently)

https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vS9c5gF00cIM_uuUDH66n_WAbPA…

Ventana,  Lenz.

 

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1/9/2024 7:59pm
HexonJuan wrote:
You mean to tell me Black Market is still a functioning, operating manufacturer?

You mean to tell me Black Market is still a functioning, operating manufacturer?Blink

Man Idk i started this list years ago just thinking of brands off the top of my head lol 

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Ksilvey10 wrote:
I put together a (certainly incomplete) list of MTB manufacturers who make at least one legit MTB model. I am at 103. That is wayyyyyyyy too...

I put together a (certainly incomplete) list of MTB manufacturers who make at least one legit MTB model. I am at 103. That is wayyyyyyyy too many slices of pie. It's no wonder so many won't survive. 

Here's the list. What companies am I missing (some are closing down currently)

https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vS9c5gF00cIM_uuUDH66n_WAbPA…

Boardman

Bucefal (only know it from the post the other day)

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1/10/2024 4:10am Edited Date/Time 1/10/2024 4:13am

Keep it rolling, there's bound to be more

Moustache*

Fantic*

Gasgas*

Husqvarna*

Gamux

Origine

 

*Ebike only

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1/10/2024 7:27am
Ksilvey10 wrote:
Folks we are up to 125 now. And that's with NO e-bike only brands or hardtail-only brands. These are brands from at least the last decade...

Folks we are up to 125 now. And that's with NO e-bike only brands or hardtail-only brands. These are brands from at least the last decade. I have highlighted in Red the ones that are out of business for sure that I know of. 

https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vS9c5gF00cIM_uuUDH66n_WAbPA…

Maybe we can have another list of component manufacturers too. How many people just make a stem, or pedals? It's kind of nuts! 

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1/10/2024 7:40am
Ksilvey10 wrote:
Folks we are up to 125 now. And that's with NO e-bike only brands or hardtail-only brands. These are brands from at least the last decade...

Folks we are up to 125 now. And that's with NO e-bike only brands or hardtail-only brands. These are brands from at least the last decade. I have highlighted in Red the ones that are out of business for sure that I know of. 

https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vS9c5gF00cIM_uuUDH66n_WAbPA…

PisgahGnar wrote:

Maybe we can have another list of component manufacturers too. How many people just make a stem, or pedals? It's kind of nuts! 

Every time I see a new flat pedal come to market I almost go blind from eye-rolling. 

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1/10/2024 8:12am

Pretty sure Chewmac is dead or at least on pause. But some bike left in LBS in Quebec

1/10/2024 9:45am

Litespeed and Lysnkey have both offered full suspension titanium mountain bikes in the recent past (but both seem to only have hard tails at the moment)

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1/10/2024 9:52am

A few more to add

Moots
Bikes (cervelo.com)
Brodie (not really making high end anymore)
Cove (no longer producing bikes)
Van Dessel

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Ksilvey10
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1/10/2024 9:53am

I think I will start a new thread just for this

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PisgahGnar
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1/10/2024 10:08am

Looks like Haro just re-entered the chat with a hardtail. 

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1/10/2024 10:49am
PisgahGnar wrote:

Looks like Haro just re-entered the chat with a hardtail. 

Are you sure it's not a rebadged Intense? Wink

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1/11/2024 8:38am
sspomer wrote:
eminent cycles bike and frame inventory up for auction. https://www.proxibid.com/FISCHER-AUCTION-CO-INC-Repo-Bankruptcy-Industrial-Auction-Center/Eminent-Cycles-Mountain-Bike-Manufacturer/event-catalog/254431

eminent cycles bike and frame inventory up for auction.

https://www.proxibid.com/FISCHER-AUCTION-CO-INC-Repo-Bankruptcy-Industr…

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How did they last this long.

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1/11/2024 8:49am
sspomer wrote:
eminent cycles bike and frame inventory up for auction. https://www.proxibid.com/FISCHER-AUCTION-CO-INC-Repo-Bankruptcy-Industrial-Auction-Center/Eminent-Cycles-Mountain-Bike-Manufacturer/event-catalog/254431

eminent cycles bike and frame inventory up for auction.

https://www.proxibid.com/FISCHER-AUCTION-CO-INC-Repo-Bankruptcy-Industr…

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That's too bad, their Drive MT got really good reviews if I recall right. 

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1/11/2024 9:06am

They had some interesting ideas, but the overall package was always somewhat unappealing (for instance, the inability to use an internally-routed dropper post on their original frames). I seem to recall a friend testing one of the earliest models and being unimpressed by its descending performance, too.

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1/11/2024 9:47am
They had some interesting ideas, but the overall package was always somewhat unappealing (for instance, the inability to use an internally-routed dropper post on their original...

They had some interesting ideas, but the overall package was always somewhat unappealing (for instance, the inability to use an internally-routed dropper post on their original frames). I seem to recall a friend testing one of the earliest models and being unimpressed by its descending performance, too.

Local guy here was shilling for them... This is an industry rightsizing at it's finest, bikes with this combination of generic and sub par are indicative of the fat that had developed in our industry over the years. 

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