Will more companies be shutting down in the next 12-24 months?

Jotegr
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11/18/2024 5:21pm
Simcik wrote:
Reeb, Chumba, Dean, Foes, Moots, Litespeed, Lynskey and a bunch of Ti brands and smaller guys like Stinner, Oddity, Black Sheep and Sycip. Up in Canada...

Reeb, Chumba, Dean, Foes, Moots, Litespeed, Lynskey and a bunch of Ti brands and smaller guys like Stinner, Oddity, Black Sheep and Sycip. Up in Canada you have Devinci.

There are a few on the road side doing carbon such as Parlee. 

There is a good number of brands doing US assembly of bikes. 

airwreck wrote:

Always surprised that Ventana doesn't get more recognition.

I'm not. 

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metadave
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11/18/2024 5:37pm

That website and most of the bikes are from 2017. Unless they're just working low key making one off, it seems like they may just still be paying for domain hosting?

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airwreck
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11/18/2024 7:16pm
Jotegr wrote:

I'm not. 

They used to have a lot more models, and a nice DH bike. That's a long list of bikes built for other companies too.

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11/19/2024 4:15am
metadave wrote:
That website and most of the bikes are from 2017. Unless they're just working low key making one off, it seems like they may just still...

That website and most of the bikes are from 2017. Unless they're just working low key making one off, it seems like they may just still be paying for domain hosting?

They used to be a customer of mine... Sherwood will be the first person to admit that marketing isn't his strong point. I think he's at a happy place with the company. I don't think that he wants it to be a huge company..

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mickey
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11/19/2024 4:21am

Sherwood has plenty of bussiness right now, enough that he is turning away OE clients again.

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11/19/2024 7:04am
mickey wrote:

Sherwood has plenty of bussiness right now, enough that he is turning away OE clients again.

That's great to hear... Glad to hear he's doing good. Good guy..

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jeff.brines
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11/19/2024 7:42am Edited Date/Time 11/19/2024 7:42am

Side point here, those who continue to frame China as a "large threat to the West", I'd encourage you to spend some time digging into demographic shifts

In short, the population of China has begun to fall and a number of institutions have modeled their population plummeting over the next 50-100 years. The effect this will have on manufacturing and their economy is dire. When you combine this with some of their questionable monetary policy decisions the last few years you end up with a situation where the "threat of china" is more bark than it is bite. 

I'm not saying they aren't a large superpower that have huge influence over the global economy, they do. However, this idea that they are militarizing and coming for our businesses, livelihoods and way of life is probably not as true as it once was. (if at all)

Anyone interested, good podcast on the subject. https://www.samharris.org/podcasts/making-sense-episodes/288-the-end-of…

 

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11/19/2024 1:25pm

WB/Discovery is in a questionable financial place being 41Bn in debt. I read that they might be shutting down motortrend arm. I guess it’s a wait and see if anything happens to Cycling coverage.

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mtbman99 wrote:
WB/Discovery is in a questionable financial place being 41Bn in debt. I read that they might be shutting down motortrend arm. I guess it’s a wait...

WB/Discovery is in a questionable financial place being 41Bn in debt. I read that they might be shutting down motortrend arm. I guess it’s a wait and see if anything happens to Cycling coverage.

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Side point here, those who continue to frame China as a "large threat to the West", I'd encourage you to spend some time digging into demographic...

Side point here, those who continue to frame China as a "large threat to the West", I'd encourage you to spend some time digging into demographic shifts

In short, the population of China has begun to fall and a number of institutions have modeled their population plummeting over the next 50-100 years. The effect this will have on manufacturing and their economy is dire. When you combine this with some of their questionable monetary policy decisions the last few years you end up with a situation where the "threat of china" is more bark than it is bite. 

I'm not saying they aren't a large superpower that have huge influence over the global economy, they do. However, this idea that they are militarizing and coming for our businesses, livelihoods and way of life is probably not as true as it once was. (if at all)

Anyone interested, good podcast on the subject. https://www.samharris.org/podcasts/making-sense-episodes/288-the-end-of…

 

You're right, I should have said perceived threat.  And "every empire needs an enemy"...

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Side point here, those who continue to frame China as a "large threat to the West", I'd encourage you to spend some time digging into demographic...

Side point here, those who continue to frame China as a "large threat to the West", I'd encourage you to spend some time digging into demographic shifts

In short, the population of China has begun to fall and a number of institutions have modeled their population plummeting over the next 50-100 years. The effect this will have on manufacturing and their economy is dire. When you combine this with some of their questionable monetary policy decisions the last few years you end up with a situation where the "threat of china" is more bark than it is bite. 

I'm not saying they aren't a large superpower that have huge influence over the global economy, they do. However, this idea that they are militarizing and coming for our businesses, livelihoods and way of life is probably not as true as it once was. (if at all)

Anyone interested, good podcast on the subject. https://www.samharris.org/podcasts/making-sense-episodes/288-the-end-of…

 

Personally I'm far less concerned about China's manufacturing ability as opposed to it's tolitarian government's ability as nuclear power to really fuck around in foreign affairs.  Especially when considering the number or regimes dependent on China's military and surveillance technology.  So while China is a competitor on the economic stage.  A truly depressed and struggling China is probably more of a threat to American interests.

jeff.brines
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Side point here, those who continue to frame China as a "large threat to the West", I'd encourage you to spend some time digging into demographic...

Side point here, those who continue to frame China as a "large threat to the West", I'd encourage you to spend some time digging into demographic shifts

In short, the population of China has begun to fall and a number of institutions have modeled their population plummeting over the next 50-100 years. The effect this will have on manufacturing and their economy is dire. When you combine this with some of their questionable monetary policy decisions the last few years you end up with a situation where the "threat of china" is more bark than it is bite. 

I'm not saying they aren't a large superpower that have huge influence over the global economy, they do. However, this idea that they are militarizing and coming for our businesses, livelihoods and way of life is probably not as true as it once was. (if at all)

Anyone interested, good podcast on the subject. https://www.samharris.org/podcasts/making-sense-episodes/288-the-end-of…

 

Personally I'm far less concerned about China's manufacturing ability as opposed to it's tolitarian government's ability as nuclear power to really fuck around in foreign affairs...

Personally I'm far less concerned about China's manufacturing ability as opposed to it's tolitarian government's ability as nuclear power to really fuck around in foreign affairs.  Especially when considering the number or regimes dependent on China's military and surveillance technology.  So while China is a competitor on the economic stage.  A truly depressed and struggling China is probably more of a threat to American interests.

By far the best lecture I listened to in 2024 on this topic. What you are interested in starts at about 21:30 but the whole thing is incredible. 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvFtyDy_Bt0

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