All Things MONT-SAINTE-ANNE World Cup Downhill

10/8/2023 10:12am Edited Date/Time 10/8/2023 10:13am
Am I the only one who was a bit shocked how they manhandled Goldstone after the finish? I'd be pissed. It was even worse than with...

Am I the only one who was a bit shocked how they manhandled Goldstone after the finish? I'd be pissed. It was even worse than with Coulanges in France. I get blocking off the crowd, but the winner, really?

Anyway, great racing. And crazy run by Craik (first time a rider wearing a MX helmet gets on the podium?)

I think after what happened in France, their plan is now to get the winning rider to safety up in the hot seat area. Jackson was just so pumped that he fought through it. I can see why the organizers are worried. It can't become the fans all jump the barricades at the end of every race.

Anyway...what a race. Jackson utterly destroyed the rest of the field.

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JokullThor wrote:

Isn’t he just running the alpinestars missile tech helmet?

He uses the SM10 (I believe). 

JokullThor wrote:

Yeah ur right, wonder why.

looks sick though

I've been thinking of getting the M10 and using it for both mtb and moto to save money on helmets. It's pretty light weight and I'm assuming it's got a bit more protection then the DH helmet. I'm trying to figure out why not. Like is there different weight biases because on a mtb your head is looking up more and a moto your holding your head forward?

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He uses the SM10 (I believe). 

JokullThor wrote:

Yeah ur right, wonder why.

looks sick though

cfox109 wrote:
I've been thinking of getting the M10 and using it for both mtb and moto to save money on helmets. It's pretty light weight and I'm...

I've been thinking of getting the M10 and using it for both mtb and moto to save money on helmets. It's pretty light weight and I'm assuming it's got a bit more protection then the DH helmet. I'm trying to figure out why not. Like is there different weight biases because on a mtb your head is looking up more and a moto your holding your head forward?

Moto helmets are meant to be able to withstand higher speed impacts, and are heavier because of this, a moto helmet for DH is fine, a DH helmet for moto isnt.

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JokullThor wrote:

Yeah ur right, wonder why.

looks sick though

cfox109 wrote:
I've been thinking of getting the M10 and using it for both mtb and moto to save money on helmets. It's pretty light weight and I'm...

I've been thinking of getting the M10 and using it for both mtb and moto to save money on helmets. It's pretty light weight and I'm assuming it's got a bit more protection then the DH helmet. I'm trying to figure out why not. Like is there different weight biases because on a mtb your head is looking up more and a moto your holding your head forward?

Stewyeww wrote:
Moto helmets are meant to be able to withstand higher speed impacts, and are heavier because of this, a moto helmet for DH is fine, a...

Moto helmets are meant to be able to withstand higher speed impacts, and are heavier because of this, a moto helmet for DH is fine, a DH helmet for moto isnt.

Moto helmets must pass the DOT standard.  Essentially the shell is much harder to prevent it splitting on rocks/curbs/concrete.  

DH shell does a better job of absorbing impacts by sacrificing itself so that your brain decelerates a little "gentler".  

Heck TLD D3 is on mega sale & tests better than tons of helmets. Buy the AStar for moto & snag the D3 for DH.  I'd never run one in the other sport.

 

Best of both worlds.

 

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10/9/2023 4:07am Edited Date/Time 10/9/2023 4:08am
Am I the only one who was a bit shocked how they manhandled Goldstone after the finish? I'd be pissed. It was even worse than with...

Am I the only one who was a bit shocked how they manhandled Goldstone after the finish? I'd be pissed. It was even worse than with Coulanges in France. I get blocking off the crowd, but the winner, really?

Anyway, great racing. And crazy run by Craik (first time a rider wearing a MX helmet gets on the podium?)

dolface wrote:

Screenshot 2023-10-08 at 06.04.34.png?VersionId=wujKN.COQVUKxFCPV

Looking at the footage on Troy's vlog it was more akin to watching someone being arrested rather than being protected.

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Anyone hear Cedric saying during the women's podium that this is a great send off for Vali?  Is she leaving Trek? And does anyone know exactly what happened to Kade, he mentioned Sponsor politics on WynnTV?  

 

Also why did they only have 3 people on the final Men's Podium and 5 on Women's?  I finally got around to watching and have so many questions. 

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I personally think every post should be "what happened with Kade" until we get an answer.  
Wyn??? 

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The guy that ran onto the track below the last jump while Goldstone was on track - he got tackled and literally rolled out of the way before it was an issue.  But the guy that tackled him - was that a course marshal?  Looks like it. I've marshal'd at Snowshoe several times, including 2 weeks ago, and that's not something we've been briefed on.  Keeping spectators off the course and behind the tape, yes.  Having to tackle them to keep the course clear, not so much. Noted for next time... 

I remember a few years ago a deer ran across the track like 10s before a rider came through.  The deer cleared the track but several of us looked at each other afterwards like "ok, wtf are we supposed to do there?"

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10/10/2023 3:27am

Snowshoe has armed state troopers keeping people away from the finish line.

The differences between Canada and America, right there for ya in a nutshellz.

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mickey wrote:

Snowshoe has armed state troopers keeping people away from the finish line.

The differences between Canada and America, right there for ya in a nutshellz.

Haha, true, but there's no reason that couldn't happen by the V-tree or at the double drop under the chair, and there's no state troopers in those sections. 

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10/10/2023 6:33am
mickey wrote:

Snowshoe has armed state troopers keeping people away from the finish line.

The differences between Canada and America, right there for ya in a nutshellz.

NorseDave wrote:
Haha, true, but there's no reason that couldn't happen by the V-tree or at the double drop under the chair, and there's no state troopers in...

Haha, true, but there's no reason that couldn't happen by the V-tree or at the double drop under the chair, and there's no state troopers in those sections. 

I guess you missed the close call at Snowshoe in the JR race.  There are knuckleheads at every race unfortunately.  

Close Call.jpg?VersionId=37Xz24iyn3BZuO

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10/10/2023 6:38am
mickey wrote:

Snowshoe has armed state troopers keeping people away from the finish line.

The differences between Canada and America, right there for ya in a nutshellz.

NorseDave wrote:
Haha, true, but there's no reason that couldn't happen by the V-tree or at the double drop under the chair, and there's no state troopers in...

Haha, true, but there's no reason that couldn't happen by the V-tree or at the double drop under the chair, and there's no state troopers in those sections. 

I think a big part of it too is that at Snowshoe even the people living closest are driving 2 hours into the middle of nowhere (majority are driving double or triple that) and spending a hefty amount on accommodations. People attending Snowshoe are super fans and have respect for the riders and the event. You aren't getting the random people that are just looking to party and cause chaos (atleast until after the race is over lol).

 

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10/10/2023 8:38am
sevenz wrote:
I guess you missed the close call at Snowshoe in the JR race.  There are knuckleheads at every race unfortunately.  

I guess you missed the close call at Snowshoe in the JR race.  There are knuckleheads at every race unfortunately.  

Close Call.jpg?VersionId=37Xz24iyn3BZuO

Yup, missed that one.  Was marshal'ing XC when that race was going on and didn't watch the JR race.  Was that guy just trying to cross the track?  Because while bad, that's not nearly as bad as the MSA dude.  

Good point on the super-fans, but given't the amount of beer (or moonshine) flowing on the hill, it can be a short trip from super-fan into a super-idiot.

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10/10/2023 11:29am
sevenz wrote:
I guess you missed the close call at Snowshoe in the JR race.  There are knuckleheads at every race unfortunately.  

I guess you missed the close call at Snowshoe in the JR race.  There are knuckleheads at every race unfortunately.  

Close Call.jpg?VersionId=37Xz24iyn3BZuO

NorseDave wrote:
Yup, missed that one.  Was marshal'ing XC when that race was going on and didn't watch the JR race.  Was that guy just trying to cross...

Yup, missed that one.  Was marshal'ing XC when that race was going on and didn't watch the JR race.  Was that guy just trying to cross the track?  Because while bad, that's not nearly as bad as the MSA dude.  

Good point on the super-fans, but given't the amount of beer (or moonshine) flowing on the hill, it can be a short trip from super-fan into a super-idiot.

First turn right out of the start hut so no marshall whistles to signal a rider.
That issue has been fixed and won't happen at SnowShoe in 2024.

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10/10/2023 11:52am
sevenz wrote:
I guess you missed the close call at Snowshoe in the JR race.  There are knuckleheads at every race unfortunately.  

I guess you missed the close call at Snowshoe in the JR race.  There are knuckleheads at every race unfortunately.  

Close Call.jpg?VersionId=37Xz24iyn3BZuO

NorseDave wrote:
Yup, missed that one.  Was marshal'ing XC when that race was going on and didn't watch the JR race.  Was that guy just trying to cross...

Yup, missed that one.  Was marshal'ing XC when that race was going on and didn't watch the JR race.  Was that guy just trying to cross the track?  Because while bad, that's not nearly as bad as the MSA dude.  

Good point on the super-fans, but given't the amount of beer (or moonshine) flowing on the hill, it can be a short trip from super-fan into a super-idiot.

bizutch wrote:
First turn right out of the start hut so no marshall whistles to signal a rider. That issue has been fixed and won't happen at SnowShoe...

First turn right out of the start hut so no marshall whistles to signal a rider.
That issue has been fixed and won't happen at SnowShoe in 2024.

There is supposedly no race a Snowshoe in 2024, only race is in MSA in North America or so it is said.

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10/10/2023 1:27pm
NorseDave wrote:
Yup, missed that one.  Was marshal'ing XC when that race was going on and didn't watch the JR race.  Was that guy just trying to cross...

Yup, missed that one.  Was marshal'ing XC when that race was going on and didn't watch the JR race.  Was that guy just trying to cross the track?  Because while bad, that's not nearly as bad as the MSA dude.  

Good point on the super-fans, but given't the amount of beer (or moonshine) flowing on the hill, it can be a short trip from super-fan into a super-idiot.

bizutch wrote:
First turn right out of the start hut so no marshall whistles to signal a rider. That issue has been fixed and won't happen at SnowShoe...

First turn right out of the start hut so no marshall whistles to signal a rider.
That issue has been fixed and won't happen at SnowShoe in 2024.

MTBDHdad wrote:

There is supposedly no race a Snowshoe in 2024, only race is in MSA in North America or so it is said.

my post was intentionally sarcastic.

There is officially no SnowShoe 2024. Spread the word.
 

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So, what would have happened if that drunken idiot had affected Jackson's time (besides dropping his beer can on the landing)? Would he have been given a re-run? Security was dialled on that for sure. You can see his beer can just right of Jackson's front tire and the guard pinning pink vest man against the far wall. IMG 0956

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10/11/2023 11:27am
djyosh wrote:
So, what would have happened if that drunken idiot had affected Jackson's time (besides dropping his beer can on the landing)? Would he have been given...

So, what would have happened if that drunken idiot had affected Jackson's time (besides dropping his beer can on the landing)? Would he have been given a re-run? Security was dialled on that for sure. You can see his beer can just right of Jackson's front tire and the guard pinning pink vest man against the far wall. IMG 0956

There would have been a high likelihood that Goldstone would have gotten hurt by this nimrod. Imagine the effect of a 60(?)kg kid travelling 50+kph unexpectedly hitting this oaf. 

Best scenario would be Jackson losing speed, affecting his placing. I'd imagine UCI would give him another shot, but there's no way anyone would be able to get the chairlift up the hill and do another run right away and expect to go nearly as fast.

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djyosh wrote:
So, what would have happened if that drunken idiot had affected Jackson's time (besides dropping his beer can on the landing)? Would he have been given...

So, what would have happened if that drunken idiot had affected Jackson's time (besides dropping his beer can on the landing)? Would he have been given a re-run? Security was dialled on that for sure. You can see his beer can just right of Jackson's front tire and the guard pinning pink vest man against the far wall. IMG 0956

Wow.  Now it really sets in.  Perfect capture of how ludicrous that guy was.

Whoever invited your pink vest buddy needs to go all Full Metal Jacket on him with the sheets & soap in a towel.

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MTBDHdad wrote:

There is supposedly no race a Snowshoe in 2024, only race is in MSA in North America or so it is said.

*only DH race.

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Am I the only one who was a bit shocked how they manhandled Goldstone after the finish? I'd be pissed. It was even worse than with...

Am I the only one who was a bit shocked how they manhandled Goldstone after the finish? I'd be pissed. It was even worse than with Coulanges in France. I get blocking off the crowd, but the winner, really?

Anyway, great racing. And crazy run by Craik (first time a rider wearing a MX helmet gets on the podium?)

dolface wrote:

Screenshot 2023-10-08 at 06.04.34.png?VersionId=wujKN.COQVUKxFCPV

is there video of this? 

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Am I the only one who was a bit shocked how they manhandled Goldstone after the finish? I'd be pissed. It was even worse than with...

Am I the only one who was a bit shocked how they manhandled Goldstone after the finish? I'd be pissed. It was even worse than with Coulanges in France. I get blocking off the crowd, but the winner, really?

Anyway, great racing. And crazy run by Craik (first time a rider wearing a MX helmet gets on the podium?)

dolface wrote:

Screenshot 2023-10-08 at 06.04.34.png?VersionId=wujKN.COQVUKxFCPV

jonkranked wrote:
is there video of this? 

is there video of this? 

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