After listening to Vojo mag: lunch time podcast with Alex Rudeau (in French), it appears the first ever enduro world champion is going into 2025 without...
After listening to Vojo mag: lunch time podcast with Alex Rudeau (in French), it appears the first ever enduro world champion is going into 2025 without team support, on his own program. He’s also not planning to race all World Cup races.
He tells that most of the edr racers are on same as he is, except a few big names, like Jesse Melamed, that are keeping some team support but at a way smaller scale. And others, like Martin Maes, are turning full downhill.
An other point thing discussed is that some top enduro racers are coordinating to pack in races like Andes-Pacifico or trans Madeira to bring back world level racing and attention to those epic events.
After listening to Vojo mag: lunch time podcast with Alex Rudeau (in French), it appears the first ever enduro world champion is going into 2025 without...
After listening to Vojo mag: lunch time podcast with Alex Rudeau (in French), it appears the first ever enduro world champion is going into 2025 without team support, on his own program. He’s also not planning to race all World Cup races.
He tells that most of the edr racers are on same as he is, except a few big names, like Jesse Melamed, that are keeping some team support but at a way smaller scale. And others, like Martin Maes, are turning full downhill.
An other point thing discussed is that some top enduro racers are coordinating to pack in races like Andes-Pacifico or trans Madeira to bring back world level racing and attention to those epic events.
this makes me wonder even more what the yeti team will be doing in '25.....
They'll be doing downhill, I'd imagine. Richie seems capable and motivated. He'll do well enough.
Send Slawomir to all the stage races, Megavalanches, some EDRs, all the US stuff like Leadville or Downieville or Maah Daah Hey 100 (little shout out for a cool race up here in North Dakota) and all the wild stuff he's willing to do. He'll do great and get to advertise the entire Yeti line. Hire a filmer/editor to follow him around (super bonus for being a decent bike mechanic, too) and he's now a very loud part of the Yeti marketing arm. Hire a social media strategist that collects all the footage from Slawomir, Richie, et al and build a schedule of consistent, high-quality videos for YouTube and Instagram. I think Greg Callahan showed what's possible this year as a single-racer team and BK/MoiMoiTV/Ed Bull Media House/Chaz Murray/Syd&Mackay show that there's an appetite for the content if done well ("well" being defined as "captivating" which means different things from different teams/personalities - I think Yeti being ultra-premium and kind of buttoned up might need to go for "polished" as opposed to BK's "run-n-gun-n-upload" or Ed Bull's "shit-talker and fun-haver extraordinaire" style).
...at least that's how I'd be thinking about it if I were a bike brand looking at next year's Enduro (and other races) schedule and trying to find a way to reach consumers of the largest bike-buying segments with the existing (non-existent) coverage at races. Want to create brand interest and loyalty from people who are motivated to spend money with your bike company? Invite people to hang out and be best friends with the people doing all the racing and most interesting riding.
Taylor Swift's manager early in her career asked her what her goals were. "I want to sell 500,000 records." He replied with "well then you need to make 500,000 friends." Of course, this is different...but I don't see it as THAT different. Humans want and seek connection. Humans with mtb budgets (meaning they can be choosy about who/where/when they spend) spend their money with the brands/ideas they feel connected to/emotionally invested in.
After listening to Vojo mag: lunch time podcast with Alex Rudeau (in French), it appears the first ever enduro world champion is going into 2025 without...
After listening to Vojo mag: lunch time podcast with Alex Rudeau (in French), it appears the first ever enduro world champion is going into 2025 without team support, on his own program. He’s also not planning to race all World Cup races.
He tells that most of the edr racers are on same as he is, except a few big names, like Jesse Melamed, that are keeping some team support but at a way smaller scale. And others, like Martin Maes, are turning full downhill.
An other point thing discussed is that some top enduro racers are coordinating to pack in races like Andes-Pacifico or trans Madeira to bring back world level racing and attention to those epic events.
I kinda have a hard time seeing yeti going back to a full scale xco team (even though I know they sponsor xc athletes and such in the US). Something like the lifetime gp seems more fitting
1. The moose let loose. Got off scot-free and went straight for leap over the Big Ditch.Marine Cabirou (caribou) to Canyon (Big Ditch)2. Chronometric queen crossed...
1. The moose let loose. Got off scot-free and went straight for leap over the Big Ditch.
Marine Cabirou (caribou) to Canyon (Big Ditch)
2. Chronometric queen crossed her fingers and found herself aligned with a new ride. Camille Balanche (Swiss watch) to Trek (crossed)
1. The moose let loose. Got off scot-free and went straight for leap over the Big Ditch.Marine Cabirou (caribou) to Canyon (Big Ditch)2. Chronometric queen crossed...
1. The moose let loose. Got off scot-free and went straight for leap over the Big Ditch.
Marine Cabirou (caribou) to Canyon (Big Ditch)
2. Chronometric queen crossed her fingers and found herself aligned with a new ride. Camille Balanche (Swiss watch) to Trek (crossed)
What brand does the "ride aligned" suspension thing, isn't that Norco?
1. The moose let loose. Got off scot-free and went straight for leap over the Big Ditch.Marine Cabirou (caribou) to Canyon (Big Ditch)2. Chronometric queen crossed...
1. The moose let loose. Got off scot-free and went straight for leap over the Big Ditch.
Marine Cabirou (caribou) to Canyon (Big Ditch)
2. Chronometric queen crossed her fingers and found herself aligned with a new ride. Camille Balanche (Swiss watch) to Trek (crossed)
1. The moose let loose. Got off scot-free and went straight for leap over the Big Ditch.Marine Cabirou (caribou) to Canyon (Big Ditch)2. Chronometric queen crossed...
1. The moose let loose. Got off scot-free and went straight for leap over the Big Ditch.
Marine Cabirou (caribou) to Canyon (Big Ditch)
2. Chronometric queen crossed her fingers and found herself aligned with a new ride. Camille Balanche (Swiss watch) to Trek (crossed)
I wasn't aware there had been an announcement of all teams and their sponsors for 2025. I thought this was a guessing game, but obviously it's an "I know something you don't" game.
I wasn't aware there had been an announcement of all teams and their sponsors for 2025. I thought this was a guessing game, but obviously it's...
I wasn't aware there had been an announcement of all teams and their sponsors for 2025. I thought this was a guessing game, but obviously it's an "I know something you don't" game.
I wasn't aware there had been an announcement of all teams and their sponsors for 2025. I thought this was a guessing game, but obviously it's...
I wasn't aware there had been an announcement of all teams and their sponsors for 2025. I thought this was a guessing game, but obviously it's an "I know something you don't" game.
Maybe look up the definition of rumor? Most rumors are stated as if they are true. Hence, 2025 Team Rumors.
From a budget and marketing perspective, that might make sense. At least in my circles, Scott seams to appeal more to the boomer XC market rather than the DH/Freeride market, at least when compared to brands like Commencal, Canyon, Specialized, Transition, Trek, Mondraker, Intense, Frameworks, Forbidden, Norco, and the like. For Scott to gain more market share in the gravity segment, they would have to sponsor more big names alongside Brendog and Marine, and it wouldn't be out of the question for them to consider pulling WC team support, considering Brendog doesn't race anymore, and the entry fees are going up to have a full World Cup team going.
From a budget and marketing perspective, that might make sense. At least in my circles, Scott seams to appeal more to the boomer XC market rather...
From a budget and marketing perspective, that might make sense. At least in my circles, Scott seams to appeal more to the boomer XC market rather than the DH/Freeride market, at least when compared to brands like Commencal, Canyon, Specialized, Transition, Trek, Mondraker, Intense, Frameworks, Forbidden, Norco, and the like. For Scott to gain more market share in the gravity segment, they would have to sponsor more big names alongside Brendog and Marine, and it wouldn't be out of the question for them to consider pulling WC team support, considering Brendog doesn't race anymore, and the entry fees are going up to have a full World Cup team going.
I've seen and heard an increase in team registration fees mentioned quite a few this this fall. Does anyone know what the increase is? Or what team fees for 2025 are?
From a budget and marketing perspective, that might make sense. At least in my circles, Scott seams to appeal more to the boomer XC market rather...
From a budget and marketing perspective, that might make sense. At least in my circles, Scott seams to appeal more to the boomer XC market rather than the DH/Freeride market, at least when compared to brands like Commencal, Canyon, Specialized, Transition, Trek, Mondraker, Intense, Frameworks, Forbidden, Norco, and the like. For Scott to gain more market share in the gravity segment, they would have to sponsor more big names alongside Brendog and Marine, and it wouldn't be out of the question for them to consider pulling WC team support, considering Brendog doesn't race anymore, and the entry fees are going up to have a full World Cup team going.
I've seen and heard an increase in team registration fees mentioned quite a few this this fall. Does anyone know what the increase is? Or what...
I've seen and heard an increase in team registration fees mentioned quite a few this this fall. Does anyone know what the increase is? Or what team fees for 2025 are?
IIRC I think it's $50k/year for a world cup pro team
From a budget and marketing perspective, that might make sense. At least in my circles, Scott seams to appeal more to the boomer XC market rather...
From a budget and marketing perspective, that might make sense. At least in my circles, Scott seams to appeal more to the boomer XC market rather than the DH/Freeride market, at least when compared to brands like Commencal, Canyon, Specialized, Transition, Trek, Mondraker, Intense, Frameworks, Forbidden, Norco, and the like. For Scott to gain more market share in the gravity segment, they would have to sponsor more big names alongside Brendog and Marine, and it wouldn't be out of the question for them to consider pulling WC team support, considering Brendog doesn't race anymore, and the entry fees are going up to have a full World Cup team going.
I've seen and heard an increase in team registration fees mentioned quite a few this this fall. Does anyone know what the increase is? Or what...
I've seen and heard an increase in team registration fees mentioned quite a few this this fall. Does anyone know what the increase is? Or what team fees for 2025 are?
100k and you need a minimum of 5 riders and this is from a reliable source.
100k and you need a minimum of 5 riders and this is from a reliable source.
I read the new rules and all I saw was maximum number of riders per team. Not minimum. Although with four riders scoring points, you need four to be competitive
I would be surprised to see them go. They have that new bike in development with the internal shock, having that bike on the world cup circuit ridden by some top riders makes sense from a marketing perspective. Maybe if the factory team goes, they will be frame sponsor for another team.
100k and you need a minimum of 5 riders and this is from a reliable source.
Regarding fees - they should be similar as before, but teams have the opportunity to get 3 years “subscriptions”. Hence the numbers are higher. (Just information out of a Podcast and the fees are not yet finalised).
that frame is borrowed from trek factory racing, they wouldn‘t ride enve wheels and non-sharpied maxxis tires.
but rumor is that he will be on TFR in 2025… but that pic‘s not a confirmation.
this makes me wonder even more what the yeti team will be doing in '25.....
Considering the sad state of enduro, downhill seems like the only reasonable choice...
They'll be doing downhill, I'd imagine. Richie seems capable and motivated. He'll do well enough.
Send Slawomir to all the stage races, Megavalanches, some EDRs, all the US stuff like Leadville or Downieville or Maah Daah Hey 100 (little shout out for a cool race up here in North Dakota) and all the wild stuff he's willing to do. He'll do great and get to advertise the entire Yeti line. Hire a filmer/editor to follow him around (super bonus for being a decent bike mechanic, too) and he's now a very loud part of the Yeti marketing arm. Hire a social media strategist that collects all the footage from Slawomir, Richie, et al and build a schedule of consistent, high-quality videos for YouTube and Instagram. I think Greg Callahan showed what's possible this year as a single-racer team and BK/MoiMoiTV/Ed Bull Media House/Chaz Murray/Syd&Mackay show that there's an appetite for the content if done well ("well" being defined as "captivating" which means different things from different teams/personalities - I think Yeti being ultra-premium and kind of buttoned up might need to go for "polished" as opposed to BK's "run-n-gun-n-upload" or Ed Bull's "shit-talker and fun-haver extraordinaire" style).
...at least that's how I'd be thinking about it if I were a bike brand looking at next year's Enduro (and other races) schedule and trying to find a way to reach consumers of the largest bike-buying segments with the existing (non-existent) coverage at races. Want to create brand interest and loyalty from people who are motivated to spend money with your bike company? Invite people to hang out and be best friends with the people doing all the racing and most interesting riding.
Taylor Swift's manager early in her career asked her what her goals were. "I want to sell 500,000 records." He replied with "well then you need to make 500,000 friends." Of course, this is different...but I don't see it as THAT different. Humans want and seek connection. Humans with mtb budgets (meaning they can be choosy about who/where/when they spend) spend their money with the brands/ideas they feel connected to/emotionally invested in.
They just get an XC race bike on the market, my guess will be that an XCO team will race on Yeti bike. Maybe it will not be a full factory team.
I kinda have a hard time seeing yeti going back to a full scale xco team (even though I know they sponsor xc athletes and such in the US). Something like the lifetime gp seems more fitting
Latest riddle rumors on the gravity grapevine
1. The moose let loose. Got off scot-free and went straight for leap over the Big Ditch.
2. Chronometric queen crossed her fingers and found herself aligned with a new ride.
1. The moose let loose. Got off scot-free and went straight for leap over the Big Ditch.
Marine Cabirou (caribou) to Canyon (Big Ditch)
2. Chronometric queen crossed her fingers and found herself aligned with a new ride.
Camille Balanche (Swiss watch) to Trek (crossed)
50/50
What brand does the "ride aligned" suspension thing, isn't that Norco?
2. Mille Johnset to Hope/Union team?
Maybe she stays. Two elite women means more team points.
Without Marine, Scott factory team won't have near enough points to be among the top 15 in the team ranking.
What team is that?
Unless they sign a high-ranking elite male?
I wasn't aware there had been an announcement of all teams and their sponsors for 2025. I thought this was a guessing game, but obviously it's an "I know something you don't" game.
Geeez I was just asking a question.
Maybe look up the definition of rumor? Most rumors are stated as if they are true. Hence, 2025 Team Rumors.
maybe there is no scott dh team for 2025?
From a budget and marketing perspective, that might make sense. At least in my circles, Scott seams to appeal more to the boomer XC market rather than the DH/Freeride market, at least when compared to brands like Commencal, Canyon, Specialized, Transition, Trek, Mondraker, Intense, Frameworks, Forbidden, Norco, and the like. For Scott to gain more market share in the gravity segment, they would have to sponsor more big names alongside Brendog and Marine, and it wouldn't be out of the question for them to consider pulling WC team support, considering Brendog doesn't race anymore, and the entry fees are going up to have a full World Cup team going.
I've seen and heard an increase in team registration fees mentioned quite a few this this fall. Does anyone know what the increase is? Or what team fees for 2025 are?
IIRC I think it's $50k/year for a world cup pro team
100k and you need a minimum of 5 riders and this is from a reliable source.
for now the team managers don't even know :-) So I would say 50k or 100k is still a rumour
I read the new rules and all I saw was maximum number of riders per team. Not minimum. Although with four riders scoring points, you need four to be competitive
I would be surprised to see them go. They have that new bike in development with the internal shock, having that bike on the world cup circuit ridden by some top riders makes sense from a marketing perspective. Maybe if the factory team goes, they will be frame sponsor for another team.
Regarding fees - they should be similar as before, but teams have the opportunity to get 3 years “subscriptions”. Hence the numbers are higher. (Just information out of a Podcast and the fees are not yet finalised).
There definitely is a Scott DH team in 2025+
Reminder that some of the users commenting and getting downvoted are in fact team managers 😂
Here to lurk the crazy claims... like that one about Scott... 🥸
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