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jpowski
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11/7/2024 11:53am
johnmcginn wrote:

There's no way Jakob would join a team, develop a bike and then leave when it's finished- what's the point in it??

I also wouldn't think Jake leaving is good for either him or Pivot. He's good for the brand in a way BK doesn't really participate in...

I also wouldn't think Jake leaving is good for either him or Pivot. He's good for the brand in a way BK doesn't really participate in (moody edits, basically...and being Canadian). Unless Pivot picked up a rider or two who carries more points to guarantee them a spot in the 15 elite teams and had to cut budget. That makes me curious about Dane (I don't see him staying if Jake goes...they seem like a package deal a little bit) who would be moving up to elite if I'm not mistaken. New rules have a max of 4 riders per race per category.

If I remember correctly, Jake joined Pivot in 2022 (a quick goog reveals late-November/early-December 2022) so his contract might be up. A lot of rider contracts are only two years.

Maybe they pulled that video down to re-edit it into a "thanks to Pivot for the last couple years" video?

If you were to ask AG; seems like that’s the nature of the biz.

Norco needs a dawg to ride for them. Respectfully Lucas is not a consistent podium threat. Greg talked a huge game and will need to deliver to investors asap. There’s some banter around another Canadian rider on that roster too. FI, JJ, DJ, Kirk, CB, and Gracey would be a hell of a team. Unlikely but at some point the ranch needs to match the hat.

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chriskief
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11/7/2024 12:17pm

BK to norco!

I thought he was going to Orbea and Scott.

Screenshot 2024-11-07 at 3.16.43%E2%80%AFPM.png?VersionId=KIGNvNcH5Q4VtcGwCLg

The man is too good for one team to handle. 

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11/7/2024 12:24pm

BK to norco!

chriskief wrote:
I thought he was going to Orbea and Scott.The man is too good for one team to handle. 

I thought he was going to Orbea and Scott.

Screenshot 2024-11-07 at 3.16.43%E2%80%AFPM.png?VersionId=KIGNvNcH5Q4VtcGwCLg

The man is too good for one team to handle. 

Lada to Muc-Off

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11/7/2024 12:45pm Edited Date/Time 11/7/2024 12:46pm

How many riders with the initials BK are there..?

Hmmmm...4?

Bernard Kerr
Bas Keep
Boic Kruni
Breg Kinaar

Edit: 5 with Bodhi Kuhn

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11/7/2024 1:09pm

Any one else see Jordan Williams brother on a proto specialized? It was on his insta @prestonwilliams 

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Maxipedia
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11/7/2024 3:00pm
I think you can add Thomas Estaque to that list. Heard the rumour around and seems to be in Annecy hanging out with Laly according to...

I think you can add Thomas Estaque to that list. Heard the rumour around and seems to be in Annecy hanging out with Laly according to the socials

What about Frix Frix? 

Man, I loved that duo! To me, probably the most stylish out there. Not a fan of Commencal, but their video work is the best and ”Hurricane” featuring those two is probably my fave video of the decade. Actually, gonna rewatch it right now!

Mx

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dolface
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11/7/2024 4:01pm
I think you can add Thomas Estaque to that list. Heard the rumour around and seems to be in Annecy hanging out with Laly according to...

I think you can add Thomas Estaque to that list. Heard the rumour around and seems to be in Annecy hanging out with Laly according to the socials

Maxipedia wrote:
What about Frix Frix? Man, I loved that duo! To me, probably the most stylish out there. Not a fan of Commencal, but their video work is...

What about Frix Frix? 

Man, I loved that duo! To me, probably the most stylish out there. Not a fan of Commencal, but their video work is the best and ”Hurricane” featuring those two is probably my fave video of the decade. Actually, gonna rewatch it right now!

Mx

Per MUTN Frix Frix (and maybe Esatque? Can't remember the other rider they mentioned) is gonna be focusing on content, not racing...

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DelaneyDH
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11/7/2024 4:34pm

IF Jake and Dane do leave PFR, that could explain Kerr hunting uci points...

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NJPA Rider
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11/7/2024 5:36pm
DelaneyDH wrote:

IF Jake and Dane do leave PFR, that could explain Kerr hunting uci points...

Also, in the video he mentions Eddie's old Pivot gear bag. Could be stirring the pot. 

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11/8/2024 12:23am
I think you can add Thomas Estaque to that list. Heard the rumour around and seems to be in Annecy hanging out with Laly according to...

I think you can add Thomas Estaque to that list. Heard the rumour around and seems to be in Annecy hanging out with Laly according to the socials

Maxipedia wrote:
What about Frix Frix? Man, I loved that duo! To me, probably the most stylish out there. Not a fan of Commencal, but their video work is...

What about Frix Frix? 

Man, I loved that duo! To me, probably the most stylish out there. Not a fan of Commencal, but their video work is the best and ”Hurricane” featuring those two is probably my fave video of the decade. Actually, gonna rewatch it right now!

Mx

dolface wrote:

Per MUTN Frix Frix (and maybe Esatque? Can't remember the other rider they mentioned) is gonna be focusing on content, not racing...

Frix Frix has announced on IG that he's definitely not at the World Cups anymore. I think Thomas and Matteo will be continuing. They both proved that they have a place this year with Thomas on the podium and some very solid quali/semi action from Matteo.

Insane riders to watch! Anytime a video from any one of the three comes out you just know it's going to be amazing! That Tempo launch with Frix 🤯

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11/8/2024 12:25am

Is there any benefit to being higher up the team listing? Other than risk of riders being poached having a bigger effect, is there any difference in being say 9th or 13th on the list?

othello
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11/8/2024 12:50am
Is there any benefit to being higher up the team listing? Other than risk of riders being poached having a bigger effect, is there any difference...

Is there any benefit to being higher up the team listing? Other than risk of riders being poached having a bigger effect, is there any difference in being say 9th or 13th on the list?

No benefit at all, but it does buy you some breathing space if your team has issues with injuries, crashes etc. If you were say 13th-15th, and have a bad run of not scoring, you are suddenly looking iffy. This has happened with the road WorldTour relegations, which work on a rolling multi-year points total. Those teams a few spots above the cut-off can have a bad season and be in trouble and scrambling for points. 

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othello
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11/8/2024 12:52am

Any info on where Danny Hart is off to next season? He must have a stack of UCI points and some teams in need of points could do with them? His performance this season warrants a bigger team ride. 

Norco?

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Cardailles
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11/8/2024 1:49am
dolface wrote:

Kelsey Urban (US XC national champ) off Team 31 for next season, don't know where she's going though...

Rissveds to Canyon. 

What happen to Team31?

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hogfly
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11/8/2024 3:31am
othello wrote:
Any info on where Danny Hart is off to next season? He must have a stack of UCI points and some teams in need of points...

Any info on where Danny Hart is off to next season? He must have a stack of UCI points and some teams in need of points could do with them? His performance this season warrants a bigger team ride. 

Norco?

MUTN podcast mentioned Giant and a relaunched Giant DH program. Not sure how that works, but they said something about him being back on a brand he had success with. 

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11/8/2024 4:03am
DelaneyDH wrote:

IF Jake and Dane do leave PFR, that could explain Kerr hunting uci points...

NJPA Rider wrote:
Also, in the video he mentions Eddie's old Pivot gear bag. Could be stirring the pot. 

Also, in the video he mentions Eddie's old Pivot gear bag. Could be stirring the pot. 

Matt and Eddie have no DHI pioints to offer, because EDR does not count as UCI points. 

Jenna has no points either, in the last 2 seasons she was injured. Negotiations could be difficult with the beloved manager. 

So signing a women and another male would help a lot to increase the team points. 

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11/8/2024 8:22am
DelaneyDH wrote:

IF Jake and Dane do leave PFR, that could explain Kerr hunting uci points...

NJPA Rider wrote:
Also, in the video he mentions Eddie's old Pivot gear bag. Could be stirring the pot. 

Also, in the video he mentions Eddie's old Pivot gear bag. Could be stirring the pot. 

manny.bike wrote:
Matt and Eddie have no DHI pioints to offer, because EDR does not count as UCI points. Jenna has no points either, in the last 2 seasons...

Matt and Eddie have no DHI pioints to offer, because EDR does not count as UCI points. 

Jenna has no points either, in the last 2 seasons she was injured. Negotiations could be difficult with the beloved manager. 

So signing a women and another male would help a lot to increase the team points. 

There is talk of combined gravity points, which would mean DH and EDR both count toward the team ranking. That would make Morgane the most valuable member of the Pivot squad by far.

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barryjenson
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11/8/2024 11:00am

BK to norco!

BK owns Pivot Factory Racing, gets support from Pivot. There’s nothing for him at norco 

That wasn’t being implied, a rumour of another rider to norco with the initials BK


 

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11/8/2024 11:11am

BK to norco!

BK owns Pivot Factory Racing, gets support from Pivot. There’s nothing for him at norco 

That wasn’t being implied, a rumour of another rider to norco with the initials BK


 

I assumed it was Bernard, no one calls Bodhi Kuhn BK , or maybe it’s not even referring to Bodhi lol I dunno 🤷🏼‍♂️ 

11/8/2024 11:16am
NJPA Rider wrote:
Also, in the video he mentions Eddie's old Pivot gear bag. Could be stirring the pot. 

Also, in the video he mentions Eddie's old Pivot gear bag. Could be stirring the pot. 

manny.bike wrote:
Matt and Eddie have no DHI pioints to offer, because EDR does not count as UCI points. Jenna has no points either, in the last 2 seasons...

Matt and Eddie have no DHI pioints to offer, because EDR does not count as UCI points. 

Jenna has no points either, in the last 2 seasons she was injured. Negotiations could be difficult with the beloved manager. 

So signing a women and another male would help a lot to increase the team points. 

There is talk of combined gravity points, which would mean DH and EDR both count toward the team ranking. That would make Morgane the most valuable...

There is talk of combined gravity points, which would mean DH and EDR both count toward the team ranking. That would make Morgane the most valuable member of the Pivot squad by far.

Jep, I hope so too… that Gravity Points include EDR and DHI points. 

dolface
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11/8/2024 11:26am

Just getting rid of extra bikes or...?

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11/9/2024 8:11am

Just watched Bernard Kerr YouTube video from the other day. Scary that his team needs more UCI points when all but Jenna did every race. Ryan might have been injured the last couple races but even so. 3 juniors, 3 elites and 2 EDR cross with some DH events and they don’t have enough points?? So what does that mean for teams like Gwin Racing? AG got a small team , Cube was a smaller team and there so many others. UCI and Warner really messing things up. 

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11/9/2024 12:05pm

I'm guessing that the Bernard in Indonesia thing means that for some reason the Enduro points aren't counting for the team rankings? Pivot have a pretty strong showing in EDR or have I missed something? Did I hear somewhere that only the world champs in Enduro give UCI points ?

Just watching BKs vlog from the event and it looks really cool and it's great for the organizer's and riders that a couple of world cup riders are there but from a world cup qualification perspective,  the idea that getting a top result there is worth more than  a 31st in the semi final at val de sol is pretty far from ideal .

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hwizzle32
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11/9/2024 12:06pm
Just watched Bernard Kerr YouTube video from the other day. Scary that his team needs more UCI points when all but Jenna did every race. Ryan...

Just watched Bernard Kerr YouTube video from the other day. Scary that his team needs more UCI points when all but Jenna did every race. Ryan might have been injured the last couple races but even so. 3 juniors, 3 elites and 2 EDR cross with some DH events and they don’t have enough points?? So what does that mean for teams like Gwin Racing? AG got a small team , Cube was a smaller team and there so many others. UCI and Warner really messing things up. 

It would not be surprising if AG focused on Monster Pro Downhill Series, wild card World Cup entries, and world champs next year. He seems to want to start a family with his wife and focus on his other business ventures, so staying closer to home would make sense. 

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dolface
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11/9/2024 1:52pm
I'm guessing that the Bernard in Indonesia thing means that for some reason the Enduro points aren't counting for the team rankings? Pivot have a pretty...

I'm guessing that the Bernard in Indonesia thing means that for some reason the Enduro points aren't counting for the team rankings? Pivot have a pretty strong showing in EDR or have I missed something? Did I hear somewhere that only the world champs in Enduro give UCI points ?

Just watching BKs vlog from the event and it looks really cool and it's great for the organizer's and riders that a couple of world cup riders are there but from a world cup qualification perspective,  the idea that getting a top result there is worth more than  a 31st in the semi final at val de sol is pretty far from ideal .

I think it was on MUTN that they said only Enduro World Champs had UCI points, maybe @George Thompson can chime in? He also had a list of the top teams by points...

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