2023 Racing Talk

Malky79
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8/25/2023 1:01pm
Dave_Camp wrote:

So just top 30 from qualifying get to race?

Everyone who qualified will race according to press release. See the main page or the Vallnord forum chat.

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8/25/2023 2:02pm
Dave_Camp wrote:

So just top 30 from qualifying get to race?

Malky79 wrote:

Everyone who qualified will race according to press release. See the main page or the Vallnord forum chat.

Would be a shame if they just cancelled semis and let the top 60 race finals at every race

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In fort bill he rode without gloves.  I have no idea if that was a personal choice decision or if they were unprepared with a set...

In fort bill he rode without gloves.  I have no idea if that was a personal choice decision or if they were unprepared with a set of dry gloves for the race (generally riders leave pits fully kitted).  I just asked if anyone remembers Greg riding without gloves in a wet race before as that would make me think it was just a choice.  But since Greg said they were unprepared in his post race interview perhaps the gloves were an example?  Just speculation.

 

as far as entry fees for racing liability, pay for proper medical staff, travel costs for operating staff (who probably have no salary), all are the main costs to hosting a race.  In addition for most bike parks the lift passes sold on race weekends are a huge part of their budget.  For the really large resorts like snowshoe it may be about recouping costs of lost lift tickets but for smaller resorts it is a serious factor in keeping things viable.  So even for a series with barebones staff like the dhse and esc it’s not cheap.  Hence where you have an inflated staff like usac or uci things are downright expensive.

bizutch wrote:
Fake news Blake  I just pulled the clip of GM's flat in his race run and pulled his qualifying run helmet cam.  GM DID had gloves...

Fake news Blake Laughing

I just pulled the clip of GM's flat in his race run and pulled his qualifying run helmet cam. 

GM DID had gloves on in both runs.  At the finish of World Champs, gloves are off AFTER he finally makes his way to the bottom. Probably gave them to a rabid fan track side to pull his tire off.
 

Broadcaster said he was gloveless as he came out tne gate

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8/25/2023 9:53pm

Broadcaster said he was gloveless as he came out tne gate

All good brother. I had to check.  Mechanic isn't usually in charge of gloves, and if he had on wet gloves they wouldn't swap out to dry ones during active rain & I remembered seeing him in white gloves on the live feed so had to double check

 

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8/26/2023 3:07am Edited Date/Time 8/26/2023 3:27am
In fort bill he rode without gloves.  I have no idea if that was a personal choice decision or if they were unprepared with a set...

In fort bill he rode without gloves.  I have no idea if that was a personal choice decision or if they were unprepared with a set of dry gloves for the race (generally riders leave pits fully kitted).  I just asked if anyone remembers Greg riding without gloves in a wet race before as that would make me think it was just a choice.  But since Greg said they were unprepared in his post race interview perhaps the gloves were an example?  Just speculation.

 

as far as entry fees for racing liability, pay for proper medical staff, travel costs for operating staff (who probably have no salary), all are the main costs to hosting a race.  In addition for most bike parks the lift passes sold on race weekends are a huge part of their budget.  For the really large resorts like snowshoe it may be about recouping costs of lost lift tickets but for smaller resorts it is a serious factor in keeping things viable.  So even for a series with barebones staff like the dhse and esc it’s not cheap.  Hence where you have an inflated staff like usac or uci things are downright expensive.

bizutch wrote:
Fake news Blake  I just pulled the clip of GM's flat in his race run and pulled his qualifying run helmet cam.  GM DID had gloves...

Fake news Blake Laughing

I just pulled the clip of GM's flat in his race run and pulled his qualifying run helmet cam. 

GM DID had gloves on in both runs.  At the finish of World Champs, gloves are off AFTER he finally makes his way to the bottom. Probably gave them to a rabid fan track side to pull his tire off.
 

Broadcaster said he was gloveless as he came out tne gate

Probably thinks he's from New Zealand, 'cause no one from there ever wears gloves, right?

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8/26/2023 8:06am
veefour wrote:

Probably thinks he's from New Zealand, 'cause no one from there ever wears gloves, right?

Can confirm coming from nz. Gloves are a rear sighting. Shorts are getting more popular in dh here aswell

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8/26/2023 8:34am
bizutch wrote:
Fake news Blake  I just pulled the clip of GM's flat in his race run and pulled his qualifying run helmet cam.  GM DID had gloves...

Fake news Blake Laughing

I just pulled the clip of GM's flat in his race run and pulled his qualifying run helmet cam. 

GM DID had gloves on in both runs.  At the finish of World Champs, gloves are off AFTER he finally makes his way to the bottom. Probably gave them to a rabid fan track side to pull his tire off.
 

Broadcaster said he was gloveless as he came out tne gate

veefour wrote:

Probably thinks he's from New Zealand, 'cause no one from there ever wears gloves, right?

He did have gloves on so...

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dylanjp006 wrote:

Can confirm coming from nz. Gloves are a rear sighting. Shorts are getting more popular in dh here aswell

Shorts in DH sound cool until you have a track where a contortion catches the opening on your bar or brake lever.  That was a good enough reason guys moved away from them is it happened a little too often.  But for World Cup racing...they're in the past. 

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8/26/2023 9:53am

I wonder who the last person to win a world Cup in shorts was?

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8/26/2023 2:39pm
Stewyeww wrote:

I wonder who the last person to win a world Cup in shorts was?

I can’t think of anyone since Steve Peat at Canberra in ‘09 if we’re including Champs as a WC

8/26/2023 4:39pm Edited Date/Time 8/26/2023 4:47pm

2015 multiple WC Winners in shorts; notable ones are Gwin chainless run Leogang win, Josh Bryceland last 26" victory in MSA

 

edit: Danny Hart Vallnord 2016

8/26/2023 7:33pm
2015 multiple WC Winners in shorts; notable ones are Gwin chainless run Leogang win, Josh Bryceland last 26" victory in MSA   edit: Danny Hart Vallnord...

2015 multiple WC Winners in shorts; notable ones are Gwin chainless run Leogang win, Josh Bryceland last 26" victory in MSA

 

edit: Danny Hart Vallnord 2016

Damn I was way off! 
 

Last 26” victory is fitting for Ratboy. 

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8/26/2023 10:21pm
Stewyeww wrote:

I wonder who the last person to win a world Cup in shorts was?

Amaury Pierron won at Fort William in 2018 in shorts.

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8/27/2023 4:56am

Broadcaster said he was gloveless as he came out tne gate

veefour wrote:

Probably thinks he's from New Zealand, 'cause no one from there ever wears gloves, right?

bizutch wrote:

He did have gloves on so...

Yeah, I know. My comment was tongue in cheek as Ric is always going on about no riders from NZ wearing gloves.

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8/27/2023 6:52am
dylanjp006 wrote:

Can confirm coming from nz. Gloves are a rear sighting. Shorts are getting more popular in dh here aswell

bizutch wrote:
Shorts in DH sound cool until you have a track where a contortion catches the opening on your bar or brake lever.  That was a good...

Shorts in DH sound cool until you have a track where a contortion catches the opening on your bar or brake lever.  That was a good enough reason guys moved away from them is it happened a little too often.  But for World Cup racing...they're in the past. 

If you're catching shorts on your brake levers you have bigger problems.

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8/27/2023 8:10am

If you're catching shorts on your brake levers you have bigger problems.

Yeah. the back of the seat is the only issue I've ever had. 

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8/27/2023 5:27pm

I've caught shorts on the end of my bar before doing a low speed steep techy turn lol. Was straight up not a good time. Switched to pants soon after

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8/28/2023 7:17am

I’ve caught my pants on things too, the only difference i can think of is the opening of the shorts getting caught over the seat if you’re super tall, otherwise all the same problems can happen.

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8/28/2023 8:00am
dylanjp006 wrote:

Can confirm coming from nz. Gloves are a rear sighting. Shorts are getting more popular in dh here aswell

bizutch wrote:
Shorts in DH sound cool until you have a track where a contortion catches the opening on your bar or brake lever.  That was a good...

Shorts in DH sound cool until you have a track where a contortion catches the opening on your bar or brake lever.  That was a good enough reason guys moved away from them is it happened a little too often.  But for World Cup racing...they're in the past. 

If you're catching shorts on your brake levers you have bigger problems.

You'd be surprised.  I've done it in DH shorts myself. At one point, when a lot of us were buying tall crowns for our forks, the upper part of the stanchion could catch on the opening of shorts even.  Had that happen.

At one point on the circuit, we had several pros I rode with switch because of a nasty crash someone had getting their short caught on their bar. 

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8/28/2023 9:34am

Is it so much the shorts or the bagginess? With how aero concerned downhill is getting I don't think we have to worry about anyone getting their Jnco's caught on their grips.

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8/29/2023 8:26am

2023 EDR season update video

 

 

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8/30/2023 1:18am

For anyone that’s interested, greg minnaar celebrated his 85th podium in andorra. Crazy

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Update from Cami:

As most of you might know I had the biggest crash in my career in Vallnord, Andorra. I was blown by a sudden wind gust on the road gap in my quali run, apparently crashed hard on the landing.
As of today, I don’t remember the accident.

I’m suffering from a moderate head trauma and contusions in my chest, but no broken bones.
I’ll be staying in a neuro rehabilitation center in Switzerland for a few weeks but should make full recovery.

I’m very sad and disappointed to miss the rest of the season but getting better and taking care of my head is the priority right now.
Thank you to my family, team, sponsors and fans for the love and support.

Can’t wait to be back healthy

Cam

 

 

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dolface wrote:
Update from Cami: As most of you might know I had the biggest crash in my career in Vallnord, Andorra. I was blown by a sudden...

Update from Cami:

As most of you might know I had the biggest crash in my career in Vallnord, Andorra. I was blown by a sudden wind gust on the road gap in my quali run, apparently crashed hard on the landing.
As of today, I don’t remember the accident.

I’m suffering from a moderate head trauma and contusions in my chest, but no broken bones.
I’ll be staying in a neuro rehabilitation center in Switzerland for a few weeks but should make full recovery.

I’m very sad and disappointed to miss the rest of the season but getting better and taking care of my head is the priority right now.
Thank you to my family, team, sponsors and fans for the love and support.

Can’t wait to be back healthy

Cam

 

 

Glad to hear that she's expected to make a full recovery. Sorry to miss watching her race, but it's great to see athletes taking better care of their brains.

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8/30/2023 11:20am

Shit hits the fan when you are on heli AND Jet...

All the best.

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8/30/2023 12:27pm
dolface wrote:
Update from Cami: As most of you might know I had the biggest crash in my career in Vallnord, Andorra. I was blown by a sudden...

Update from Cami:

As most of you might know I had the biggest crash in my career in Vallnord, Andorra. I was blown by a sudden wind gust on the road gap in my quali run, apparently crashed hard on the landing.
As of today, I don’t remember the accident.

I’m suffering from a moderate head trauma and contusions in my chest, but no broken bones.
I’ll be staying in a neuro rehabilitation center in Switzerland for a few weeks but should make full recovery.

I’m very sad and disappointed to miss the rest of the season but getting better and taking care of my head is the priority right now.
Thank you to my family, team, sponsors and fans for the love and support.

Can’t wait to be back healthy

Cam

 

 

Losifer wrote:
Glad to hear that she's expected to make a full recovery. Sorry to miss watching her race, but it's great to see athletes taking better care...

Glad to hear that she's expected to make a full recovery. Sorry to miss watching her race, but it's great to see athletes taking better care of their brains.

Per Alan Millway on Neethling's podcast she hit the landing body-first... Sad

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8/30/2023 12:44pm
dolface wrote:
Update from Cami: As most of you might know I had the biggest crash in my career in Vallnord, Andorra. I was blown by a sudden...

Update from Cami:

As most of you might know I had the biggest crash in my career in Vallnord, Andorra. I was blown by a sudden wind gust on the road gap in my quali run, apparently crashed hard on the landing.
As of today, I don’t remember the accident.

I’m suffering from a moderate head trauma and contusions in my chest, but no broken bones.
I’ll be staying in a neuro rehabilitation center in Switzerland for a few weeks but should make full recovery.

I’m very sad and disappointed to miss the rest of the season but getting better and taking care of my head is the priority right now.
Thank you to my family, team, sponsors and fans for the love and support.

Can’t wait to be back healthy

Cam

 

 

Losifer wrote:
Glad to hear that she's expected to make a full recovery. Sorry to miss watching her race, but it's great to see athletes taking better care...

Glad to hear that she's expected to make a full recovery. Sorry to miss watching her race, but it's great to see athletes taking better care of their brains.

dolface wrote:
Per Alan Millway on Neethling's podcast she hit the landing body-first... 

Per Alan Millway on Neethling's podcast she hit the landing body-first... Sad

Jesus...

That makes it even more amazing that she isn't more injured!

 

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8/31/2023 9:11am

doesn't apply to vital too much as it's ebike XC, but a World Series race was just fully canceled. "Not possible to ensure successful execution of event." - wonder what that really means? is there really an interest in e-xc?

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Charade/Clermont-Ferrand Round canceled

Monaco (P.ty), Thursday 31 August 2023 - The Union Cycliste Internationale (UCI) and WES Management regret to announce that the round of the 2023 UCI E-MTB Cross-country World Cup which was scheduled to take place in Charade/Clermont-Ferrand (France) on 30 September and 1st October, has been canceled.

Despite the best efforts of the local promoter and WES, it was not possible to ensure the successful execution of this event this year. However, it is envisaged to return to Charade/Clermont Ferrand with a round of the UCI E-MTB Cross-country World Cup in the future.

The next round of the 2023 UCI E-MTB Cross-country World Cup will take place in Bielstein, Germany, on 2 and 3 September.

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