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Simcik
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Had some of the first Minion DHF 29" samples in 2012. Prior to that 29" options were pretty grim, the best we could do were WTB...

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Had some of the first Minion DHF 29" samples in 2012. Prior to that 29" options were pretty grim, the best we could do were WTB Weirwolf LT 2.55" and Maxxis Ardent 2.4" (probably what I had on the rear in this photo).

 

I mean the Minion DHF celebrated a 20th anniversary. If that is not longevity in this industry, IDK what is. They have been my favorite tire nearly the entire time I have ridden bikes seriously. I try something new every year or so and end up back on the DHF. Three wheelsizes later and I am still going after DHFs for my preferred tire.

Speaking of wheelsizes, saw a post by DirtySixer showing 32" wheeled bikes 😒

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Nine year old component is like a century ago in bike years. What other components that have withstood the test of time that long? maybe some...

Nine year old component is like a century ago in bike years. What other components that have withstood the test of time that long? maybe some grips/pedals. 

Having to ride tires from 9 years ago sounds like a blast.  

jofish wrote:

Thomson everything. I think Bruni still runs the seatpost?

Certain hubs, spokes, EX471's are 9 years old this year. There's a bit when you look around 

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race face going short on crank length 160MM CRANKS. Get shorty.  Have you ever wondered if you’d benefit from shorter cranks? Along with reducing the chance...

race face going short on crank length

rf era 160mm hero desktop 4320x2400-2100x1167-39440c09-2db0-46b4-a39e-8fab90b9dc71.jpg?VersionId=aDRoWgrf turbine 160mm hero desktop 4320x2400-2100x1167-9ec393a5-be64-4fc1-bdc4-4351515a46f8
160MM CRANKS. Get shorty. 
Have you ever wondered if you’d benefit from shorter cranks? Along with reducing the chance of a pedal strike, shorter cranks can improve bike fit and alleviate knee pain, all while improving descending performance. You can now get the new 160mm length in our flagship Era carbon and Turbine alloy cranks. All cranks are covered by our Lifetime Warranty, crashes included. 
 
DEFY CARBON CONVENTION 
Let your cranks do the talking. 
Era is the strongest, stiffest and most durable carbon crank ever created by Race Face. One of the lightest in its class with boots to match your chosen colour, Era will outlast your bike while staying scuff-free and looking great. Get them now in 160mm.
 
THE ALLOY ANSWER 
Praise the workhorse. 

The most trustworthy alloy crank on the trails, thirty years running. Turbine delivers an incredibly stiff and responsive ride with uncompromised durability. Go ahead and get rowdy. Turbine has your back. Now in 160mm.

Era Crankset MSRP: $499 USD / $649 CAD / 489 EURO

Turbine Crankset MSRP: $180 USD / $220 CAD / 230 EURO

I wonder where the price difference for the aluminium cranks between US and EU is coming from, tariffs? Pretty much the same for carbon.

Era Crankset MSRP: $499 USD / $649 CAD / 489 EURO

Turbine Crankset MSRP: $180 USD / $220 CAD / 230 EURO

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jonkranked wrote:

I was simply pointing out its age, and also as a reminder that saint is now shimano's longest running unchanged grouppo. 

Uhm actually Shimano Dura-Ace Track 7700 launched in 1996 is the longest running unchanged shimano gruppo. /nerd

And yeah most spokes versions are 20+ years old. D-light was 2010 and CX-Ray was 1997 for Sapim.

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Nine year old component is like a century ago in bike years. What other components that have withstood the test of time that long? maybe some...

Nine year old component is like a century ago in bike years. What other components that have withstood the test of time that long? maybe some grips/pedals. 

Having to ride tires from 9 years ago sounds like a blast.  

Had some of the first Minion DHF 29" samples in 2012. Prior to that 29" options were pretty grim, the best we could do were WTB...

WinterParkLOOP18x24

Had some of the first Minion DHF 29" samples in 2012. Prior to that 29" options were pretty grim, the best we could do were WTB Weirwolf LT 2.55" and Maxxis Ardent 2.4" (probably what I had on the rear in this photo).

 

Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t it a different tire today? I would imagine both construction and compound have been updated. Whereas I believe the saint derailleur is literally the same one from 9 years ago.

 

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My jerseys are all (both?) from like 15 years ago

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jonkranked
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1llumA wrote:
Uhm actually Shimano Dura-Ace Track 7700 launched in 1996 is the longest running unchanged shimano gruppo. /nerdAnd yeah most spokes versions are 20+ years old. D-light...

Uhm actually Shimano Dura-Ace Track 7700 launched in 1996 is the longest running unchanged shimano gruppo. /nerd

And yeah most spokes versions are 20+ years old. D-light was 2010 and CX-Ray was 1997 for Sapim.

honest question - is the 7700 track grouppo still in active production? it seems to have been delisted from the shimano website

 

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jonkranked wrote:

honest question - is the 7700 track grouppo still in active production? it seems to have been delisted from the shimano website

 

Pretty sure 7600 track cog, 7700 octalink & square taper BB are still being produced even if they are not listed on shimano consumer site and the chainrings are still listed and produced but good chance the actual 7700 crankset are now discontinued.

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jonkranked wrote:

honest question - is the 7700 track grouppo still in active production? it seems to have been delisted from the shimano website

 

1llumA wrote:
Pretty sure 7600 track cog, 7700 octalink & square taper BB are still being produced even if they are not listed on shimano consumer site and...

Pretty sure 7600 track cog, 7700 octalink & square taper BB are still being produced even if they are not listed on shimano consumer site and the chainrings are still listed and produced but good chance the actual 7700 crankset are now discontinued.

The track parts are all available and are still stocked by Shimano USA. NJS Keirin races have inflexible equipment rules which effectively prohibit changes to the groupset - tech rumors and innovation are outlawed!!!

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metadave
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jonkranked wrote:

honest question - is the 7700 track grouppo still in active production? it seems to have been delisted from the shimano website

 

1llumA wrote:
Pretty sure 7600 track cog, 7700 octalink & square taper BB are still being produced even if they are not listed on shimano consumer site and...

Pretty sure 7600 track cog, 7700 octalink & square taper BB are still being produced even if they are not listed on shimano consumer site and the chainrings are still listed and produced but good chance the actual 7700 crankset are now discontinued.

The track parts are all available and are still stocked by Shimano USA. NJS Keirin races have inflexible equipment rules which effectively prohibit changes to the...

The track parts are all available and are still stocked by Shimano USA. NJS Keirin races have inflexible equipment rules which effectively prohibit changes to the groupset - tech rumors and innovation are outlawed!!!

The voice I read this in

 

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