I have definitely not heard anything about the new Trek Slash+ being released on the 26th of July with the new TQ 580Wh, SRAM Maven's on...
I have definitely not heard anything about the new Trek Slash+ being released on the 26th of July with the new TQ 580Wh, SRAM Maven's on the SRAM spec, weighing 20.9kg / 46lbs in size medium and the 9.9 XO AXS build pricing the same as the non-e Slash 9.9 XX AXS
Was secretly hoping tq was going to release a more powerful version of the HPR50 in the same size package for the Slash E. That would be a perfect bike with 70ish NM.
I have definitely not heard anything about the new Trek Slash+ being released on the 26th of July with the new TQ 580Wh, SRAM Maven's on...
I have definitely not heard anything about the new Trek Slash+ being released on the 26th of July with the new TQ 580Wh, SRAM Maven's on the SRAM spec, weighing 20.9kg / 46lbs in size medium and the 9.9 XO AXS build pricing the same as the non-e Slash 9.9 XX AXS
Was secretly hoping tq was going to release a more powerful version of the HPR50 in the same size package for the Slash E. That would...
Was secretly hoping tq was going to release a more powerful version of the HPR50 in the same size package for the Slash E. That would be a perfect bike with 70ish NM.
Same. I'd be surprised if it gets a battery that large without some sort of bump in the output...
Okay I see. Didnt know about the problems with the Enduro. But I also have to ask, why does everyone want an update so badly? What would they include on the future Enduro that they could actually improve upon so greatly that after the honey moon phase of riding the new bike, youd think its doing something more special/improved?
Okay I see. Didnt know about the problems with the Enduro. But I also have to ask, why does everyone want an update so badly? What would...
Okay I see. Didnt know about the problems with the Enduro. But I also have to ask, why does everyone want an update so badly? What would they include on the future Enduro that they could actually improve upon so greatly that after the honey moon phase of riding the new bike, youd think its doing something more special/improved?
Steeper seat tube angle and adjustable geo like the Stumpy Evo would be nice.
Local Bike Shop confirmed that a new Santa Cruz Hightower model is due at the end of the year, with only details being that its 7mm more travel in the rear and 10mm more in the front (seems like Megatower territory). Anyone else heard/seen any other news? Contemplating the current model as the travel seemed perfect for me 150/145.
Local Bike Shop confirmed that a new Santa Cruz Hightower model is due at the end of the year, with only details being that its 7mm...
Local Bike Shop confirmed that a new Santa Cruz Hightower model is due at the end of the year, with only details being that its 7mm more travel in the rear and 10mm more in the front (seems like Megatower territory). Anyone else heard/seen any other news? Contemplating the current model as the travel seemed perfect for me 150/145.
I’ve read somewhere that Hightower and Bronson update will come before end of summer. The shock tunnel and bb area will be “pretty” different and something more.
Okay I see. Didnt know about the problems with the Enduro. But I also have to ask, why does everyone want an update so badly? What would...
Okay I see. Didnt know about the problems with the Enduro. But I also have to ask, why does everyone want an update so badly? What would they include on the future Enduro that they could actually improve upon so greatly that after the honey moon phase of riding the new bike, youd think its doing something more special/improved?
I personally don't feel like a totally new Enduro is necessary, but if some kind of mullet setting isn't available on the stock bike, that will be a big mistake and hurt sales.
The bike isn't even the first choice of the factory team in its namesake series, so realistically, they're not going to rush a new version to market anyways. If anything, the next version will come out once they iron out all the details of the new Kenevo SL, ala Trek Fuel EXE and Fuel EX, IMO.
I have definitely not heard anything about the new Trek Slash+ being released on the 26th of July with the new TQ 580Wh, SRAM Maven's on...
I have definitely not heard anything about the new Trek Slash+ being released on the 26th of July with the new TQ 580Wh, SRAM Maven's on the SRAM spec, weighing 20.9kg / 46lbs in size medium and the 9.9 XO AXS build pricing the same as the non-e Slash 9.9 XX AXS
Was secretly hoping tq was going to release a more powerful version of the HPR50 in the same size package for the Slash E. That would...
Was secretly hoping tq was going to release a more powerful version of the HPR50 in the same size package for the Slash E. That would be a perfect bike with 70ish NM.
Does anyone have any information about the WeAreOne DH bike? It looks pretty production ready
I thought it (the original prototype) was using the arrival frame with custom links and they bolt the shock into the downtube? Has it been updated at all?
I personally don't feel like a totally new Enduro is necessary, but if some kind of mullet setting isn't available on the stock bike, that will...
I personally don't feel like a totally new Enduro is necessary, but if some kind of mullet setting isn't available on the stock bike, that will be a big mistake and hurt sales.
The bike isn't even the first choice of the factory team in its namesake series, so realistically, they're not going to rush a new version to market anyways. If anything, the next version will come out once they iron out all the details of the new Kenevo SL, ala Trek Fuel EXE and Fuel EX, IMO.
Current enduro is more mini dh than actual enduro bike, its super capable but its too much of a bike for a regular day out and the fact that even factory team does not race with it tells you enough. Before they had stumpjumper evo to fill the gap but with new stumpjumper that gap is even wider now so it makes sense to bring enduro back to full enduro :D
I personally don't feel like a totally new Enduro is necessary, but if some kind of mullet setting isn't available on the stock bike, that will...
I personally don't feel like a totally new Enduro is necessary, but if some kind of mullet setting isn't available on the stock bike, that will be a big mistake and hurt sales.
The bike isn't even the first choice of the factory team in its namesake series, so realistically, they're not going to rush a new version to market anyways. If anything, the next version will come out once they iron out all the details of the new Kenevo SL, ala Trek Fuel EXE and Fuel EX, IMO.
Current enduro is more mini dh than actual enduro bike, its super capable but its too much of a bike for a regular day out and...
Current enduro is more mini dh than actual enduro bike, its super capable but its too much of a bike for a regular day out and the fact that even factory team does not race with it tells you enough. Before they had stumpjumper evo to fill the gap but with new stumpjumper that gap is even wider now so it makes sense to bring enduro back to full enduro :D
It's a 170mm bike with leverage progression in the 20s, like almost every other enduro bike out there. The marketing department made a song and dance about its axle path but even its anti-squat isn't unusual.
I thought it (the original prototype) was using the arrival frame with custom links and they bolt the shock into the downtube? Has it been updated...
I thought it (the original prototype) was using the arrival frame with custom links and they bolt the shock into the downtube? Has it been updated at all?
Technically this one would be the original and it's not an Arrival frame. Believe this dude went to go work at WA1, so the design pretty much is a couple years old
I thought it (the original prototype) was using the arrival frame with custom links and they bolt the shock into the downtube? Has it been updated...
I thought it (the original prototype) was using the arrival frame with custom links and they bolt the shock into the downtube? Has it been updated at all?
Technically this one would be the original and it's not an Arrival frame. Believe this dude went to go work at WA1, so the design pretty much is a couple years old
I’ve read somewhere that Hightower and Bronson update will come before end of summer. The shock tunnel and bb area will be “pretty” different and something...
I’ve read somewhere that Hightower and Bronson update will come before end of summer. The shock tunnel and bb area will be “pretty” different and something more.
Looks like some shops already have all the information on what's coming for these new gen SC bikes.
New shock tunnel design, front shock mount sitting in the frame, integrated head tube badge and wireless only.
I’ve read somewhere that Hightower and Bronson update will come before end of summer. The shock tunnel and bb area will be “pretty” different and something...
I’ve read somewhere that Hightower and Bronson update will come before end of summer. The shock tunnel and bb area will be “pretty” different and something more.
Looks like some shops already have all the information on what's coming for these new gen SC bikes.New shock tunnel design, front shock mount sitting in...
Looks like some shops already have all the information on what's coming for these new gen SC bikes.
New shock tunnel design, front shock mount sitting in the frame, integrated head tube badge and wireless only.
I thought it (the original prototype) was using the arrival frame with custom links and they bolt the shock into the downtube? Has it been updated...
I thought it (the original prototype) was using the arrival frame with custom links and they bolt the shock into the downtube? Has it been updated at all?
Technically this one would be the original and it's not an Arrival frame. Believe this dude went to go work at WA1, so the design pretty much is a couple years old
Well, Vlad did build that pre we are one so whether you consider the sequence the original or one of the 200mm arrivals that were pre current prototype, thats up to you.
Personally Id not be surprised if we never saw a preduction DH bike from the brand.
I’ve read somewhere that Hightower and Bronson update will come before end of summer. The shock tunnel and bb area will be “pretty” different and something...
I’ve read somewhere that Hightower and Bronson update will come before end of summer. The shock tunnel and bb area will be “pretty” different and something more.
Looks like some shops already have all the information on what's coming for these new gen SC bikes.New shock tunnel design, front shock mount sitting in...
Looks like some shops already have all the information on what's coming for these new gen SC bikes.
New shock tunnel design, front shock mount sitting in the frame, integrated head tube badge and wireless only.
Looks like some shops already have all the information on what's coming for these new gen SC bikes.New shock tunnel design, front shock mount sitting in...
Looks like some shops already have all the information on what's coming for these new gen SC bikes.
New shock tunnel design, front shock mount sitting in the frame, integrated head tube badge and wireless only.
Looks like some shops already have all the information on what's coming for these new gen SC bikes.New shock tunnel design, front shock mount sitting in...
Looks like some shops already have all the information on what's coming for these new gen SC bikes.
New shock tunnel design, front shock mount sitting in the frame, integrated head tube badge and wireless only.
if really wireles only they will lose a lot customers… most people i know only buy frames and are re-use their existing highend parts on a new bike.
Looks like some shops already have all the information on what's coming for these new gen SC bikes.New shock tunnel design, front shock mount sitting in...
Looks like some shops already have all the information on what's coming for these new gen SC bikes.
New shock tunnel design, front shock mount sitting in the frame, integrated head tube badge and wireless only.
This would confirm that wireless Di2 is imminent (not the integrated headtube badge).
A laptop computer communicating with a wireless access point is smart. Communicating with a wireless mouse is a mostly harmless gimmick with some legitimate convenience added in some cases. Communicating internally wirelessly, like motherboard to daughter to storage etc, is kind of ridiculous. It’s a job wires are especially well suited to.
I’m willing to take the word of the people who swap their wireless dropper post from bike to bike. That’s the mouse in this analogy.
I think the wireless derailleur fits the third example best.
Looks like some shops already have all the information on what's coming for these new gen SC bikes.New shock tunnel design, front shock mount sitting in...
Looks like some shops already have all the information on what's coming for these new gen SC bikes.
New shock tunnel design, front shock mount sitting in the frame, integrated head tube badge and wireless only.
if really wireles only they will lose a lot customers… most people i know only buy frames and are re-use their existing highend parts on a...
if really wireles only they will lose a lot customers… most people i know only buy frames and are re-use their existing highend parts on a new bike.
Drop in the bucket. Trek commissioned did a study a number of years ago and it found for high end (4000 USD and above) mountain bikes, SC blew everybody out of the water in terms of sales - including Trek and Specialized. That study kind of made its way around the inside of the industry and speculatively is why a number of companies shifted to copy SC in a number of ways.
Anyway, the point is SC, being the king of high end MTB sales, sells so many bikes to absolute schmuck riders who'd struggle ride out of wet paper bag (and likely don't care about tech) that any enthusiast focused frame-only sales lost from going wireless only do not matter at all to PON holdings.
RE: We hoped bikes would get cheaper but brands don't care
I'm not so sure. I think it's the opposite: they want to make bikes more expensive because that target demographic is who can afford to buy bikes right now. I would further speculate that companies like Specialized, Trek, and Santa Cruz have done some sort of analysis which indicates that while it makes sense to offer some reasonably priced options in the post-covid, high cost of living market glut, it makes more sense to push higher end and more expensive because the people who are going to keep buying new bikes in the current market are those who are either immune or unaffected or actively benefitting from the current trends. These guys are probably baller level customers. Lots of people who'd be getting those price point bikes might have to hold off for now, but the guy who can afford a $12,000 bike with wireless everything and will never service it himself is doing great.
Was secretly hoping tq was going to release a more powerful version of the HPR50 in the same size package for the Slash E. That would be a perfect bike with 70ish NM.
Same. I'd be surprised if it gets a battery that large without some sort of bump in the output...
Sure but realistically, where would a modern EX1750 sit in the catalogue?
Okay I see. Didnt know about the problems with the Enduro.
But I also have to ask, why does everyone want an update so badly? What would they include on the future Enduro that they could actually improve upon so greatly that after the honey moon phase of riding the new bike, youd think its doing something more special/improved?
Steeper seat tube angle and adjustable geo like the Stumpy Evo would be nice.
Local Bike Shop confirmed that a new Santa Cruz Hightower model is due at the end of the year, with only details being that its 7mm more travel in the rear and 10mm more in the front (seems like Megatower territory). Anyone else heard/seen any other news? Contemplating the current model as the travel seemed perfect for me 150/145.
I’ve read somewhere that Hightower and Bronson update will come before end of summer. The shock tunnel and bb area will be “pretty” different and something more.
I personally don't feel like a totally new Enduro is necessary, but if some kind of mullet setting isn't available on the stock bike, that will be a big mistake and hurt sales.
The bike isn't even the first choice of the factory team in its namesake series, so realistically, they're not going to rush a new version to market anyways. If anything, the next version will come out once they iron out all the details of the new Kenevo SL, ala Trek Fuel EXE and Fuel EX, IMO.
Just confirmed the slash+ is very real, seen on shop computer as above the details are correct. No date on it so he was telling everyone
4 more days
anyone going to drop a photo of the Slash+???
Does anyone have any information about the WeAreOne DH bike? It looks pretty production ready
Still running the HPR50 motor
You didn't see this here:
I thought it (the original prototype) was using the arrival frame with custom links and they bolt the shock into the downtube? Has it been updated at all?
Current enduro is more mini dh than actual enduro bike, its super capable but its too much of a bike for a regular day out and the fact that even factory team does not race with it tells you enough. Before they had stumpjumper evo to fill the gap but with new stumpjumper that gap is even wider now so it makes sense to bring enduro back to full enduro :D
It's a 170mm bike with leverage progression in the 20s, like almost every other enduro bike out there. The marketing department made a song and dance about its axle path but even its anti-squat isn't unusual.
https://www.pinkbike.com/news/sequence-downhill-bike-crankworx-les-gets-2018.html
Technically this one would be the original and it's not an Arrival frame. Believe this dude went to go work at WA1, so the design pretty much is a couple years old
Lots of detail in this Downtime w/ Dustin Adams: https://www.downtimepodcast.com/project-momentum/
Bike stuff starts around 15:00
Looks like some shops already have all the information on what's coming for these new gen SC bikes.
New shock tunnel design, front shock mount sitting in the frame, integrated head tube badge and wireless only.
Wireless only, whack!
Well, Vlad did build that pre we are one so whether you consider the sequence the original or one of the 200mm arrivals that were pre current prototype, thats up to you.
Personally Id not be surprised if we never saw a preduction DH bike from the brand.
Its funny how we’ve fully accepted wireless in every other part of our lives, except when it comes to bikes.
integrated head tube badge
Revolutionary.
if really wireles only they will lose a lot customers… most people i know only buy frames and are re-use their existing highend parts on a new bike.
This would confirm that wireless Di2 is imminent (not the integrated headtube badge).
We wanted and hoped bikes will get cheaper but I guess bike brands don't really care...
With Shimano's wireless groups coming this year I guess it's really goodbye to mechanical groupsets on high end bikes.
All analogy is suspect but 😉
A laptop computer communicating with a wireless access point is smart. Communicating with a wireless mouse is a mostly harmless gimmick with some legitimate convenience added in some cases. Communicating internally wirelessly, like motherboard to daughter to storage etc, is kind of ridiculous. It’s a job wires are especially well suited to.
I’m willing to take the word of the people who swap their wireless dropper post from bike to bike. That’s the mouse in this analogy.
I think the wireless derailleur fits the third example best.
Drop in the bucket. Trek commissioned did a study a number of years ago and it found for high end (4000 USD and above) mountain bikes, SC blew everybody out of the water in terms of sales - including Trek and Specialized. That study kind of made its way around the inside of the industry and speculatively is why a number of companies shifted to copy SC in a number of ways.
Anyway, the point is SC, being the king of high end MTB sales, sells so many bikes to absolute schmuck riders who'd struggle ride out of wet paper bag (and likely don't care about tech) that any enthusiast focused frame-only sales lost from going wireless only do not matter at all to PON holdings.
RE: We hoped bikes would get cheaper but brands don't care
I'm not so sure. I think it's the opposite: they want to make bikes more expensive because that target demographic is who can afford to buy bikes right now. I would further speculate that companies like Specialized, Trek, and Santa Cruz have done some sort of analysis which indicates that while it makes sense to offer some reasonably priced options in the post-covid, high cost of living market glut, it makes more sense to push higher end and more expensive because the people who are going to keep buying new bikes in the current market are those who are either immune or unaffected or actively benefitting from the current trends. These guys are probably baller level customers. Lots of people who'd be getting those price point bikes might have to hold off for now, but the guy who can afford a $12,000 bike with wireless everything and will never service it himself is doing great.
Maybe SC will do a Spesh move and come out with more affordable cable-compatible aluminium versions, right? Right?
And a longer seat tube for droppers over 170mm.
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