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7/23/2023 8:03am
sspomer wrote:

you vital super sleuths have just won the MTB tech rumors world championships with this bolt. Don't Post to Vital t-shirts coming soon.

Can you get some 'Have you seen Levy?' T-shirts made while you're at it?

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IMG 6199

 Not sure if this has been posted before or not but ill chuck it out there. New high pivot trek enduro bike spotted in whis the other week. Off of the other site

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7/23/2023 8:58am
sspomer wrote:

you vital super sleuths have just won the MTB tech rumors world championships with this bolt. Don't Post to Vital t-shirts coming soon.

gibbon wrote:

Can you get some 'Have you seen Levy?' T-shirts made while you're at it?

Pretty sure he's in some murky Vancouver coffee shop doing spoken word poetry about lycra and Mini Coopers.

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7/23/2023 9:50am
dylanjp006 wrote:
 Not sure if this has been posted before or not but ill chuck it out there. New high pivot trek enduro bike spotted in whis the...

IMG 6199

 Not sure if this has been posted before or not but ill chuck it out there. New high pivot trek enduro bike spotted in whis the other week. Off of the other site

This one's been out for a while, PB published an entire article on it on June 9th.

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7/23/2023 9:56am

This could just be a bad quality picture but it looks like the Bomber 58 is getting an update soon, perhaps 29er?

The lowers at least look like they have an arched crown like on all Fox forks.

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7/23/2023 10:51am
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AndehM wrote:
Agreed, this looks like updated Privateer.  Especially given the bolt on cable clips on the head tube, the external routing for the rear brake, uber steep...

Agreed, this looks like updated Privateer.  Especially given the bolt on cable clips on the head tube, the external routing for the rear brake, uber steep seat tube, and chonky main pivot bearings.  Looks like a pair of flip chips, one on the seatstay, and one at the rear axle (presumably for CS length).  I wonder if the first is for mullet setup, or just slacker.  Hard to tell if the rear wheel is 29 or 27.5 from that angle.  Must be close to finished because the chainstay protector looks like a finished product (not just mastic tape or VHS like protos get).

Poleczechy wrote:

100% the new 161. That's Fergus Ryan's bike, he's a Privateer team rider and currently in Whistler. 

yup, it's a Privateer. Joe Connell just won ArdRock on one https://www.pinkbike.com/photo/25211161/p5pb25211161.jpg?VersionId=nftC6

 

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7/23/2023 12:36pm Edited Date/Time 7/23/2023 12:37pm
AndehM wrote:
Agreed, this looks like updated Privateer.  Especially given the bolt on cable clips on the head tube, the external routing for the rear brake, uber steep...

Agreed, this looks like updated Privateer.  Especially given the bolt on cable clips on the head tube, the external routing for the rear brake, uber steep seat tube, and chonky main pivot bearings.  Looks like a pair of flip chips, one on the seatstay, and one at the rear axle (presumably for CS length).  I wonder if the first is for mullet setup, or just slacker.  Hard to tell if the rear wheel is 29 or 27.5 from that angle.  Must be close to finished because the chainstay protector looks like a finished product (not just mastic tape or VHS like protos get).

Poleczechy wrote:

100% the new 161. That's Fergus Ryan's bike, he's a Privateer team rider and currently in Whistler. 

yup, it's a Privateer. Joe Connell just won ArdRock on one https://www.pinkbike.com/photo/25211161/  

yup, it's a Privateer. Joe Connell just won ArdRock on one https://www.pinkbike.com/photo/25211161/p5pb25211161.jpg?VersionId=nftC6

 

Should NOT post pics from PB.  They literally rip off Vital all the time.  If people want to search and find their content on their own... fine.  But don't reward those pricks with a direct link on the Vital site.  Done nothing to earn it.

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7/23/2023 12:42pm
BenediktB wrote:
This could just be a bad quality picture but it looks like the Bomber 58 is getting an update soon, perhaps 29er? The lowers at least...

This could just be a bad quality picture but it looks like the Bomber 58 is getting an update soon, perhaps 29er?

The lowers at least look like they have an arched crown like on all Fox forks.

Probably just a 40 performance or performance elite with stickers

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7/23/2023 3:33pm
bizutch wrote:
Should NOT post pics from PB.  They literally rip off Vital all the time.  If people want to search and find their content on their own...

Should NOT post pics from PB.  They literally rip off Vital all the time.  If people want to search and find their content on their own... fine.  But don't reward those pricks with a direct link on the Vital site.  Done nothing to earn it.

Does the pink site even still exist? I thought they got bought and shut down months ago? Why do we even still mention them? 

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7/23/2023 6:27pm Edited Date/Time 7/23/2023 6:27pm

Interesting little chain guide on Mick’s bike, presumably for HP chain slap.

 

Lower roller looks the same as the new slash, anyone knows who makes it ?32EC65DC-EF11-44A6-A826-652BA4046F43

 

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7/23/2023 6:47pm
ahleic09 wrote:
Interesting little chain guide on Mick’s bike, presumably for HP chain slap.   Lower roller looks the same as the new slash, anyone knows who makes...

Interesting little chain guide on Mick’s bike, presumably for HP chain slap.

 

Lower roller looks the same as the new slash, anyone knows who makes it ?32EC65DC-EF11-44A6-A826-652BA4046F43

 

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kcy4130 wrote:
The new boxxer was out in the wild for ~1.5 years maybe more (iirc) before they finally released it. New Vivid was only spotted this season...

The new boxxer was out in the wild for ~1.5 years maybe more (iirc) before they finally released it. New Vivid was only spotted this season. I wouldn't hold my breath. Especially with whole industry slowing down and lots of shops and companies overstocked. 

chriskief wrote:
 Looking pretty finished... hopefully not a 2024 release.

Screenshot 2023-07-22 at 11.32.08 AM.png?VersionId=NU

 Looking pretty finished... hopefully not a 2024 release.

Is that a laser etched padlock on the far side of the the comp assembly? Looks the same as the 23’ SDU I had.

All of the Vivids so far look to have been using piggyback assemblies that were originally lockout capable. Jack's and Vali's in particular.

Pisses me off that RS decided that I don't deserve a lockout lever because I run a 250x70 shock on 2023 SDUs. I hope I get the option here.

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7/24/2023 4:53am
All of the Vivids so far look to have been using piggyback assemblies that were originally lockout capable. Jack's and Vali's in particular. Pisses me off...

All of the Vivids so far look to have been using piggyback assemblies that were originally lockout capable. Jack's and Vali's in particular.

Pisses me off that RS decided that I don't deserve a lockout lever because I run a 250x70 shock on 2023 SDUs. I hope I get the option here.

Try to source the different piggy bag assy(11.4118.008.003), any qualified suspension workshop should be able to get the work done. 
 

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7/24/2023 7:34am
bizutch wrote:
Should NOT post pics from PB.  They literally rip off Vital all the time.  If people want to search and find their content on their own...

Should NOT post pics from PB.  They literally rip off Vital all the time.  If people want to search and find their content on their own... fine.  But don't reward those pricks with a direct link on the Vital site.  Done nothing to earn it.

Big Bird wrote:

Does the pink site even still exist? I thought they got bought and shut down months ago? Why do we even still mention them? 

hah...the fan boi's hit you with the thumbs down.  Little do they know...it won't hide your comment.  And to their dismay...you can even delete your comment and/or turn off notifications for this post if you want to move on to other things in life.  Your comments aren't locked for eternity for some zit faced Euro kid to get offended and re-awaken the hate in 3 years.

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7/24/2023 7:38am
ahleic09 wrote:
Interesting little chain guide on Mick’s bike, presumably for HP chain slap.   Lower roller looks the same as the new slash, anyone knows who makes...

Interesting little chain guide on Mick’s bike, presumably for HP chain slap.

 

Lower roller looks the same as the new slash, anyone knows who makes it ?32EC65DC-EF11-44A6-A826-652BA4046F43

 

chriskief wrote:

Geez...so many links in a single skinny chain.
I'd be wanting corporate to put a 9 speed on my bike just for my mental health.

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7/24/2023 8:12am
Poleczechy wrote:

100% the new 161. That's Fergus Ryan's bike, he's a Privateer team rider and currently in Whistler. 

yup, it's a Privateer. Joe Connell just won ArdRock on one https://www.pinkbike.com/photo/25211161/  

yup, it's a Privateer. Joe Connell just won ArdRock on one https://www.pinkbike.com/photo/25211161/p5pb25211161.jpg?VersionId=nftC6

 

bizutch wrote:
Should NOT post pics from PB.  They literally rip off Vital all the time.  If people want to search and find their content on their own...

Should NOT post pics from PB.  They literally rip off Vital all the time.  If people want to search and find their content on their own... fine.  But don't reward those pricks with a direct link on the Vital site.  Done nothing to earn it.

Go easy boss, its just a bunch of non-sense mountain cycle stuff.

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7/24/2023 8:17am
Primoz wrote:
I can relate. Wouldn't notice the joke of I hadn't zoomed in to see if it says mineral oil only to do a double take at...

I can relate. Wouldn't notice the joke of I hadn't zoomed in to see if it says mineral oil only to do a double take at what it says 😂

Pretty sure this paves the way for the Optic to be a HP idler trail bike, similar to the new Druid.

 

https://www.pinkbike.com/news/first-look-norcos-new-carbon-fluid.html

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yup, it's a Privateer. Joe Connell just won ArdRock on one https://www.pinkbike.com/photo/25211161/  

yup, it's a Privateer. Joe Connell just won ArdRock on one https://www.pinkbike.com/photo/25211161/p5pb25211161.jpg?VersionId=nftC6

 

bizutch wrote:
Should NOT post pics from PB.  They literally rip off Vital all the time.  If people want to search and find their content on their own...

Should NOT post pics from PB.  They literally rip off Vital all the time.  If people want to search and find their content on their own... fine.  But don't reward those pricks with a direct link on the Vital site.  Done nothing to earn it.

Onawalk wrote:

Go easy boss, its just a bunch of non-sense mountain cycle stuff.

considering Spomer started the site from scratch, is a great dude who literally does no one harm...and constantly gets his content ideas stolen/replicated/etc ripped off by that specific site...not so much nonsense.  Guy is trying to feed a family.  

And the dude that owned PB before it got sold was totally OK with the intellectual property theft from day 1. Bikes are fun. Doesn't mean you can be a cutthroat douchebag to the people who love them.

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7/24/2023 11:03am
From the other site. Someone at Sram is having a chuckle ;)  

From the other site. Someone at Sram is having a chuckle Wink

p6pb25208951

 

I hope sram replaces the "Black Box" moniker used on all their prototype or unreleased stuff with "Don't post to Vital". 

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7/24/2023 11:57am
All of the Vivids so far look to have been using piggyback assemblies that were originally lockout capable. Jack's and Vali's in particular. Pisses me off...

All of the Vivids so far look to have been using piggyback assemblies that were originally lockout capable. Jack's and Vali's in particular.

Pisses me off that RS decided that I don't deserve a lockout lever because I run a 250x70 shock on 2023 SDUs. I hope I get the option here.

Try to source the different piggy bag assy(11.4118.008.003), any qualified suspension workshop should be able to get the work done. 
 

Going off RRPs, that's a $241 upgrade on a $500 shock, (not to mention the workshop time). Sure it's small beans to most decent shocks out there, but I don't like having the decision made for me.

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Going off RRPs, that's a $241 upgrade on a $500 shock, (not to mention the workshop time). Sure it's small beans to most decent shocks out...

Going off RRPs, that's a $241 upgrade on a $500 shock, (not to mention the workshop time). Sure it's small beans to most decent shocks out there, but I don't like having the decision made for me.

Street price in Germany is about 133€ compared to RRP 261€. 
Workshop time shouldn‘t be too bad since its a easy swap during service, which you need to do anyway at some point. 
A 250*7x shock is a DH shock most of the time. If you need special products you sometimes have to go a special way, I would say.

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It would be nice to be able to spec a shock with all the details. Getting bearing mount aftermarket shocks is a pain in the ass, different damper tunes are a problem (without a rebuild), etc. 

Getting a shock for a less known frame can be quite a challenge if it falls outside the 'standard' requirements of medium tune and standard eyelets... 

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7/25/2023 4:10am
Poleczechy wrote:

100% the new 161. That's Fergus Ryan's bike, he's a Privateer team rider and currently in Whistler. 

yup, it's a Privateer. Joe Connell just won ArdRock on one https://www.pinkbike.com/photo/25211161/  

yup, it's a Privateer. Joe Connell just won ArdRock on one https://www.pinkbike.com/photo/25211161/p5pb25211161.jpg?VersionId=nftC6

 

bizutch wrote:
Should NOT post pics from PB.  They literally rip off Vital all the time.  If people want to search and find their content on their own...

Should NOT post pics from PB.  They literally rip off Vital all the time.  If people want to search and find their content on their own... fine.  But don't reward those pricks with a direct link on the Vital site.  Done nothing to earn it.

Dude calm down. It's all just bikes. Most of us will probably look at the content on boths sites anyways.

Besides, even vital mtb staff occasionally reposts PB photos here.

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bizutch wrote:
Should NOT post pics from PB.  They literally rip off Vital all the time.  If people want to search and find their content on their own...

Should NOT post pics from PB.  They literally rip off Vital all the time.  If people want to search and find their content on their own... fine.  But don't reward those pricks with a direct link on the Vital site.  Done nothing to earn it.

Big Bird wrote:

Does the pink site even still exist? I thought they got bought and shut down months ago? Why do we even still mention them? 

To be fair, the Outside buyout enabled them to hire Ben Cathro and a bunch of other pro racers and eventually set up a full-time pro-level racing team, which is possibly the coolest thing any MTB media has done in the last couple of years.

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To be fair, the Outside buyout enabled them to hire Ben Cathro and a bunch of other pro racers and eventually set up a full-time pro-level...

To be fair, the Outside buyout enabled them to hire Ben Cathro and a bunch of other pro racers and eventually set up a full-time pro-level racing team, which is possibly the coolest thing any MTB media has done in the last couple of years.

But on the flipside they have disappeared Levy........

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7/25/2023 7:25am

Exclusive first look for the Vital forum, we’re spending a couple of days with Fast Suspension, checking out the factory and testing the latest and greatest - including an all-new fork! Full report will follow of course, but here are a couple of shots for you in the meantime:

IMG 6115

IMG 6126

 

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7/25/2023 7:55am
iceman2058 wrote:
Exclusive first look for the Vital forum, we’re spending a couple of days with Fast Suspension, checking out the factory and testing the latest and greatest...

Exclusive first look for the Vital forum, we’re spending a couple of days with Fast Suspension, checking out the factory and testing the latest and greatest - including an all-new fork! Full report will follow of course, but here are a couple of shots for you in the meantime:

IMG 6115

IMG 6126

 

Is this fork compatible with slow riders?

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