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7/25/2023 10:29am
iceman2058 wrote:
Exclusive first look for the Vital forum, we’re spending a couple of days with Fast Suspension, checking out the factory and testing the latest and greatest...

Exclusive first look for the Vital forum, we’re spending a couple of days with Fast Suspension, checking out the factory and testing the latest and greatest - including an all-new fork! Full report will follow of course, but here are a couple of shots for you in the meantime:

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Is this fork compatible with slow riders?

if you have to ask you are not the target audience

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7/25/2023 12:00pm
sspomer wrote:

you vital super sleuths have just won the MTB tech rumors world championships with this bolt. Don't Post to Vital t-shirts coming soon.

gibbon wrote:

Can you get some 'Have you seen Levy?' T-shirts made while you're at it?

Pretty sure he's in some murky Vancouver coffee shop doing spoken word poetry about lycra and Mini Coopers.

Or he secretly works for Vital now... Silly

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7/25/2023 12:02pm
gibbon wrote:

Can you get some 'Have you seen Levy?' T-shirts made while you're at it?

Pretty sure he's in some murky Vancouver coffee shop doing spoken word poetry about lycra and Mini Coopers.

Or he secretly works for Vital now... 

Or he secretly works for Vital now... Silly

This is tech rumors not team rumors

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7/25/2023 8:11pm
gibbon wrote:

Can you get some 'Have you seen Levy?' T-shirts made while you're at it?

Pretty sure he's in some murky Vancouver coffee shop doing spoken word poetry about lycra and Mini Coopers.

Or he secretly works for Vital now... 

Or he secretly works for Vital now... Silly

God let’s hope not. 

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7/26/2023 12:26am
SnusDog wrote:

God let’s hope not. 

I'll never forget his review of a "Status 160" that was actually a 140mm bike.

He made all sorts of comments like how it felt harsh compared to other bikes with 160mm travel...

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7/26/2023 1:36am

guess we now know what's hidden on the proto downhill bikes?mondraker-neat 1

 

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7/26/2023 1:56am
raozaki wrote:
guess we now know what's hidden on the proto downhill bikes?  

guess we now know what's hidden on the proto downhill bikes?mondraker-neat 1

 

It was always going to be a more HP oriented dual link in my mind, but was curious to see if they were gonna go full 6-bar or not, but it doesn't look that way based on this bike at least. I must say it does look very clean and aesthetically pleasing though.

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7/26/2023 5:21am Edited Date/Time 7/26/2023 5:33am
raozaki wrote:
guess we now know what's hidden on the proto downhill bikes?  

guess we now know what's hidden on the proto downhill bikes?mondraker-neat 1

 

Perhaps. The other end of the shock is attached to rear triangle instead of lower link, like their other bikes. That can only change the leverage ratio, not the wheel path, anti squat, or anti rise. Right? All of those things could be changed on the new version too, but fundamentally it's still a dual link bike. I'm not saying it's a trivial change, but it's not exactly massive or ground breaking. Seems hardly worth hiding with a cover? But the cover is probably half for marketing anyhow. I mean, with their sponsored racers practically openly hating on the prior dh bike (the one currently still for sale), I can't imagine many other bike companies are looking to copy mondraker's new homework. 

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7/26/2023 5:34am
raozaki wrote:
guess we now know what's hidden on the proto downhill bikes?  

guess we now know what's hidden on the proto downhill bikes?mondraker-neat 1

 

kcy4130 wrote:
Perhaps. The other end of the shock is attached to rear triangle instead of lower link, like their other bikes. That can only change the leverage...

Perhaps. The other end of the shock is attached to rear triangle instead of lower link, like their other bikes. That can only change the leverage ratio, not the wheel path, anti squat, or anti rise. Right? All of those things could be changed on the new version too, but fundamentally it's still a dual link bike. I'm not saying it's a trivial change, but it's not exactly massive or ground breaking. Seems hardly worth hiding with a cover? But the cover is probably half for marketing anyhow. I mean, with their sponsored racers practically openly hating on the prior dh bike (the one currently still for sale), I can't imagine many other bike companies are looking to copy mondraker's new homework. 

the lower link looks to have changed too, its more like a DW lower link now by the looks of it... shorter and flatter in orientation.

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7/26/2023 5:42am Edited Date/Time 7/26/2023 5:45am
raozaki wrote:
guess we now know what's hidden on the proto downhill bikes?  

guess we now know what's hidden on the proto downhill bikes?mondraker-neat 1

 

kcy4130 wrote:
Perhaps. The other end of the shock is attached to rear triangle instead of lower link, like their other bikes. That can only change the leverage...

Perhaps. The other end of the shock is attached to rear triangle instead of lower link, like their other bikes. That can only change the leverage ratio, not the wheel path, anti squat, or anti rise. Right? All of those things could be changed on the new version too, but fundamentally it's still a dual link bike. I'm not saying it's a trivial change, but it's not exactly massive or ground breaking. Seems hardly worth hiding with a cover? But the cover is probably half for marketing anyhow. I mean, with their sponsored racers practically openly hating on the prior dh bike (the one currently still for sale), I can't imagine many other bike companies are looking to copy mondraker's new homework. 

the lower link looks to have changed too, its more like a DW lower link now by the looks of it... shorter and flatter in orientation.

That bike shown is just a 150mm light e bike they released today. It's just speculation that the new dh bike might have the same suspension layout. Hopefully the cover is hiding something a bit more interesting than that. 

Edit: if you want a good laugh, have a read of their marketing spiel: https://mondraker.com/nc/en/zero-suspension-system

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7/26/2023 8:37am
kcy4130 wrote:
That bike shown is just a 150mm light e bike they released today. It's just speculation that the new dh bike might have the same suspension...

That bike shown is just a 150mm light e bike they released today. It's just speculation that the new dh bike might have the same suspension layout. Hopefully the cover is hiding something a bit more interesting than that. 

Edit: if you want a good laugh, have a read of their marketing spiel: https://mondraker.com/nc/en/zero-suspension-system

I love the perfect pedal efficiency as well as zero kickback. Can't get any better than that, but with high AS number, high pedal kick figures and no iddler it doesn't get more BS than that. Some could argue this is misleading advertising.

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7/26/2023 10:51am
 New Carbon rims from i9!

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 New Carbon rims from i9!

Good to see they're still working with WAO for the rims, rather than venture out on their own and end up with something inferior. There's A LOT of established confidence in WAO.  

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7/26/2023 1:31pm
Good to see they're still working with WAO for the rims, rather than venture out on their own and end up with something inferior. There's A...

Good to see they're still working with WAO for the rims, rather than venture out on their own and end up with something inferior. There's A LOT of established confidence in WAO.  

Anyone know/care to speculate if they will offer a rim-only option? Been eying the WR1 Factions but the i9 rims are quite a but lighter which is appealing to me...

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7/26/2023 2:41pm
Good to see they're still working with WAO for the rims, rather than venture out on their own and end up with something inferior. There's A...

Good to see they're still working with WAO for the rims, rather than venture out on their own and end up with something inferior. There's A LOT of established confidence in WAO.  

dolface wrote:
Anyone know/care to speculate if they will offer a rim-only option? Been eying the WR1 Factions but the i9 rims are quite a but lighter which...

Anyone know/care to speculate if they will offer a rim-only option? Been eying the WR1 Factions but the i9 rims are quite a but lighter which is appealing to me...

These use their proprietary spoke and hub design, so no.

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7/26/2023 4:31pm Edited Date/Time 7/26/2023 4:32pm

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Sid release tomorrow??? Rockshox Instagram had this on their story plus a similar post to what they did with the Boxxer. 

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7/27/2023 6:36am
Primoz wrote:
https://road.cc/content/tech-news/superstrata-manufacturing-stops-amid-customer-complaints-302783 There was talk about the tech support being aimed at mountain bikes too, but looks like it was a bit too good to be true...

https://road.cc/content/tech-news/superstrata-manufacturing-stops-amid-…

There was talk about the tech support being aimed at mountain bikes too, but looks like it was a bit too good to be true for the time being... 

For folks who might not be familiar w/ the whole saga: https://escapecollective.com/the-superstrata-is-not-a-good-bike/

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7/27/2023 8:36am
Primoz wrote:
https://road.cc/content/tech-news/superstrata-manufacturing-stops-amid-customer-complaints-302783 There was talk about the tech support being aimed at mountain bikes too, but looks like it was a bit too good to be true...

https://road.cc/content/tech-news/superstrata-manufacturing-stops-amid-…

There was talk about the tech support being aimed at mountain bikes too, but looks like it was a bit too good to be true for the time being... 

dolface wrote:

For folks who might not be familiar w/ the whole saga: https://escapecollective.com/the-superstrata-is-not-a-good-bike/

Didn't Revel make their DH bike using Arevo's tech? I'm not sure if they licensed the method or had Arevo make the parts but the machine looks the same: https://revelbikes.com/product/rodeo/

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7/27/2023 10:36am
Good to see they're still working with WAO for the rims, rather than venture out on their own and end up with something inferior. There's A...

Good to see they're still working with WAO for the rims, rather than venture out on their own and end up with something inferior. There's A LOT of established confidence in WAO.  

dolface wrote:
Anyone know/care to speculate if they will offer a rim-only option? Been eying the WR1 Factions but the i9 rims are quite a but lighter which...

Anyone know/care to speculate if they will offer a rim-only option? Been eying the WR1 Factions but the i9 rims are quite a but lighter which is appealing to me...

Faction rim is listed as 425g,

I9 rims (TR 300) listed as 406/427g

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7/27/2023 10:46am
Onawalk wrote:

Faction rim is listed as 425g,

I9 rims (TR 300) listed as 406/427g

UL is 378g which is pretty light for a 30mm rim (and I weigh 60kg Laughing​​​​​​​)​​

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7/27/2023 12:57pm
Onawalk wrote:

Faction rim is listed as 425g,

I9 rims (TR 300) listed as 406/427g

dolface wrote:
UL is 378g which is pretty light for a 30mm rim (and I weigh 60kg ​​​​​​​)​​

UL is 378g which is pretty light for a 30mm rim (and I weigh 60kg Laughing​​​​​​​)​​

Revive, 345 grams, same inner rim width

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