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dolface
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3/21/2023 6:53am

X0 cassette price is the same ($400)

Cog sizes:

New: 10-52t:10,12,14,16,18,21,24,28,32,38,44,52

Old: 10-52t:10,12,14,16,18,21,24,28,32,36,42,52

 

sprungmass
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Weights:

XXSL Crankset + 34T - 475g
XXSL AXS Derailleur - 440g
XXSL Cassette - 350g
AXS Pod Controller - 50g
XXSL AXS Chain - 240g

XX AXS Crankset + 32T - 560g
XX AXS Derailleur - 450g
XX Cassette - 385g
AXS Pod Controller - 50g
XX AXS Chain - 256g

XO AXS Crankset + 32T - 685g
XO AXS Derailleur - 466g
XO Cassette - 385g
AXS Pod Controller - 50g
XO AXS Chain - -256g

For comparison to previous generation:

XX1 Dub SL Crankset + 32T - 425
XX1 AXS Controller - 78
XX1 AXS Derailleur - 375
XX1 Cassette - 374

GX AXS Crankset + 32T - 633g
GX AXS Derailleur - 454g
GX Cassette - 450g
GX Controller - 68g
GX Chain - 256g

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3/21/2023 7:12am

So axs linkglide? Looks nice, price is meh. Those XO cranks are making me a little hot under the potato right now though, dayum. 

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dolface
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New SRAM brakes are out too, details on the other site

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Primoz
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3/21/2023 7:31am
dolface wrote:

New SRAM brakes are out too, details on the other site

Also in Vital's drivetrain article. 

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3/21/2023 8:08am

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 Sram did an oopsie and has this image up on their website highlighting the new XXSL drivetrain with Level ULT Stealth brakes 

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 Sram did an oopsie and has this image up on their website highlighting the new XXSL drivetrain with Level ULT Stealth brakes 

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 Sram did an oopsie and has this image up on their website highlighting the new XXSL drivetrain with Level ULT Stealth brakes 

The Sram video also clearly shows a similar view of the new epic

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3/21/2023 8:17am
 Sram did an oopsie and has this image up on their website highlighting the new XXSL drivetrain with Level ULT Stealth brakes 

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 Sram did an oopsie and has this image up on their website highlighting the new XXSL drivetrain with Level ULT Stealth brakes 

Curious if that is the Epic or a totally new model.  Only reason I think it might be a completely new model is that I'm not sure if that new frame/suspension design would translate to the Epic Evo.  I could see Spesh making this a strictly "XC race" frame and making the Epic/Epic Evo a dedicated "Downcountry" platform. 

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User83001
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3/21/2023 8:55am Edited Date/Time 3/21/2023 8:59am
 Sram did an oopsie and has this image up on their website highlighting the new XXSL drivetrain with Level ULT Stealth brakes 

32EFE38E-053A-4ED9-8F6A-EC94E715F5CE 1.jpeg?VersionId=rgRKnBMJc GCbUMfkh

 Sram did an oopsie and has this image up on their website highlighting the new XXSL drivetrain with Level ULT Stealth brakes 

Curious if that is the Epic or a totally new model.  Only reason I think it might be a completely new model is that I'm not...

Curious if that is the Epic or a totally new model.  Only reason I think it might be a completely new model is that I'm not sure if that new frame/suspension design would translate to the Epic Evo.  I could see Spesh making this a strictly "XC race" frame and making the Epic/Epic Evo a dedicated "Downcountry" platform. 

they might be going for a model to run alongside the Evo since the evo is what they have been racing at the cape epic. This could be an epic HT replacement. Sounds like trek is getting a longer travel xc bike for their riders soon --- haley batten was racing it and she usually sticks with the HT than full sus

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3/21/2023 9:05am
 Sram did an oopsie and has this image up on their website highlighting the new XXSL drivetrain with Level ULT Stealth brakes 

32EFE38E-053A-4ED9-8F6A-EC94E715F5CE 1.jpeg?VersionId=rgRKnBMJc GCbUMfkh

 Sram did an oopsie and has this image up on their website highlighting the new XXSL drivetrain with Level ULT Stealth brakes 

That is an incredibly long shock body relative to the the stanchion, maybe the new brain system in housed in there

3/21/2023 9:05am

this model is mostly supposed to replace the "regular" epic, it has a bit less travel and is more xc race oriented. Epic Evo will stay pretty much the same for the next year except some small refinements

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matmattmatthew
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3/21/2023 9:11am
this model is mostly supposed to replace the "regular" epic, it has a bit less travel and is more xc race oriented. Epic Evo will stay...

this model is mostly supposed to replace the "regular" epic, it has a bit less travel and is more xc race oriented. Epic Evo will stay pretty much the same for the next year except some small refinements

I'm curious what the refinements to the Epic Evo would be, if they added 10mm of travel, 20 mm of reach, and a SWAT box it would be my dream bike.  

Masjo
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3/21/2023 9:13am
laurikuris wrote:

Chainline for all seems 55mm

I don't remember which article it was in, but one of them stated that this 'effectively eliminates the need for Super Boost'... I'm curious to see what happens with that and if the companies with Super Boost bikes feel the same. 

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turn.mtb
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3/21/2023 9:22am
baronKanon wrote:
Intend will be releasing their brake system on Friday! YEAH! (Too bad I just ordered a pair of Direttissimas when they got in stock at Bike24...)...

Intend will be releasing their brake system on Friday! YEAH! (Too bad I just ordered a pair of Direttissimas when they got in stock at Bike24...)

 

 

Any updates on the new intend brake system?
It seems like the announcement countdown on youtube was a non-starter.
 

3/21/2023 10:05am
I'm curious what the refinements to the Epic Evo would be, if they added 10mm of travel, 20 mm of reach, and a SWAT box it...

I'm curious what the refinements to the Epic Evo would be, if they added 10mm of travel, 20 mm of reach, and a SWAT box it would be my dream bike.  

I just got the 2023 model, which does not have those updates. We can expect headset cable routing, read somewhere a wee bit more travel up front and probably slightly updated geo with storage. 

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3/21/2023 10:07am

Seen in the video released today by Santa Cruz, perhaps the final design and official color of new V10?

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matmattmatthew
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3/21/2023 10:12am
I'm curious what the refinements to the Epic Evo would be, if they added 10mm of travel, 20 mm of reach, and a SWAT box it...

I'm curious what the refinements to the Epic Evo would be, if they added 10mm of travel, 20 mm of reach, and a SWAT box it would be my dream bike.  

I just got the 2023 model, which does not have those updates. We can expect headset cable routing, read somewhere a wee bit more travel up...

I just got the 2023 model, which does not have those updates. We can expect headset cable routing, read somewhere a wee bit more travel up front and probably slightly updated geo with storage. 

Thanks. Sounds like I should hold off and see what they release.  

lickmycrinkle
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3/21/2023 10:39am
 New Neuron on Quinney's profile. Seems the only real difference is headset cable routing. Chew my fat one Canyon.

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 New Neuron on Quinney's profile. Seems the only real difference is headset cable routing. Chew my fat one Canyon.

geometry, lighter frame, chain device, frame protection, pivot hardware updates, cable routing, and "the wallet." That's a decent amount of change even though it doesn't really...

geometry, lighter frame, chain device, frame protection, pivot hardware updates, cable routing, and "the wallet."

That's a decent amount of change even though it doesn't really look like it visually. Call it whatever you want, evolution, refinement. It's not just the same bike with headset routing. Did you want a whole new suspension layout?
 

"Seems".

I didn't have the article to go on when I found the photos. Put some ice on that chubby.

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3/21/2023 10:48am
turn.mtb wrote:

Any updates on the new intend brake system?
It seems like the announcement countdown on youtube was a non-starter.
 

Can't see anything showing up from there just yet. Seeing it is Release Tuesday* today, it seems logical to wait a while.

*Releases today include:

- Canyon Neuron

- SRAM Transmission

- SRAM Code-levers

- Level 4-pot

- Cane Creek Wings

- Guerilla Gravity bike lineup

- TRP Evo drivetrains..

 

Phew

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utmtbrider
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3/21/2023 1:46pm

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 Another look at the new Epic from Srams video about the new transmissions.

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