I don't think she is flaming them. There's no invective. Sounds like she is simply saying what happened, and if that reflects poorly on Yeti I...
I don't think she is flaming them. There's no invective. Sounds like she is simply saying what happened, and if that reflects poorly on Yeti I think that's Yeti's problem. Canning the 5th overall for "performance expectations" seems like a bullshit line.
Also, I don't think a rider expecting to be paid rises to the level of "demanding." Maybe that's not how you meant it.
Demanding wasn't the best word. I didn't mean it to say SHE was demanding a paid salary. I'm saying that signing a top 3 or top 5 (Yeti expectation) woman for the 2023 season would require a salary.
I do think that her adding the performance thing is flaming Yeti a bit. Most riders are not re-signed or let go because the didn't reach performance expectations (be it results or social media) and you never hear/see riders posting that in their 'goodbye/contract termination posts'. It's a reality for all riders, but seeing them put it in a post, makes people backlash against the team. Just look at the comments on her post. Lots of people talking poorly on Yeti about her performance comment.
Boy, this thread seems to have strayed off-topic a bit. Isn't there a racing rumors thread that is better for all the racing talk?
Boy, this thread seems to have strayed off-topic a bit. Isn't there a racing rumors thread that is better for all the racing talk?
Still relevant, sets the scene for more rumors, I don't want to be switching threads all the time cause the topic Karen's want everything split .. scroll on if you don't like it .
Demanding wasn't the best word. I didn't mean it to say SHE was demanding a paid salary. I'm saying that signing a top 3 or top...
Demanding wasn't the best word. I didn't mean it to say SHE was demanding a paid salary. I'm saying that signing a top 3 or top 5 (Yeti expectation) woman for the 2023 season would require a salary.
I do think that her adding the performance thing is flaming Yeti a bit. Most riders are not re-signed or let go because the didn't reach performance expectations (be it results or social media) and you never hear/see riders posting that in their 'goodbye/contract termination posts'. It's a reality for all riders, but seeing them put it in a post, makes people backlash against the team. Just look at the comments on her post. Lots of people talking poorly on Yeti about her performance comment.
Does anyone have info about how contracts are structured? (Since we have no idea what Bex's looked like I'm just trying to understand what might have led to this; she's always seemed very positive/pro on Insta and this post is def out of character for her).
I'd expect that the "performance expectations" would be pretty explicit and you either meet them or you don't.
Bex's post makes it sound like this came as a surprise to her (which I think is why folks are reacting negatively to Yeti).
Demanding wasn't the best word. I didn't mean it to say SHE was demanding a paid salary. I'm saying that signing a top 3 or top...
Demanding wasn't the best word. I didn't mean it to say SHE was demanding a paid salary. I'm saying that signing a top 3 or top 5 (Yeti expectation) woman for the 2023 season would require a salary.
I do think that her adding the performance thing is flaming Yeti a bit. Most riders are not re-signed or let go because the didn't reach performance expectations (be it results or social media) and you never hear/see riders posting that in their 'goodbye/contract termination posts'. It's a reality for all riders, but seeing them put it in a post, makes people backlash against the team. Just look at the comments on her post. Lots of people talking poorly on Yeti about her performance comment.
Does anyone have info about how contracts are structured? (Since we have no idea what Bex's looked like I'm just trying to understand what might have...
Does anyone have info about how contracts are structured? (Since we have no idea what Bex's looked like I'm just trying to understand what might have led to this; she's always seemed very positive/pro on Insta and this post is def out of character for her).
I'd expect that the "performance expectations" would be pretty explicit and you either meet them or you don't.
Bex's post makes it sound like this came as a surprise to her (which I think is why folks are reacting negatively to Yeti).
On Adam Brayton's most recent 'GastoVlog' with Danny Hart there's a lad doing shuttle laps with them on the new Forbidden Druid, and they block his face out.
Not sure if it's just a joke or if there's a new UK rider signed to the Synthesis race team. Any ideas who it could be?
Unfortunately sound like Danny is still looking for a ride.
On Adam Brayton's most recent 'GastoVlog' with Danny Hart there's a lad doing shuttle laps with them on the new Forbidden Druid, and they block his...
On Adam Brayton's most recent 'GastoVlog' with Danny Hart there's a lad doing shuttle laps with them on the new Forbidden Druid, and they block his face out.
Not sure if it's just a joke or if there's a new UK rider signed to the Synthesis race team. Any ideas who it could be?
Unfortunately sound like Danny is still looking for a ride.
I know the 2 of them ride with Elliot Heap at times. As a Nukeproof rider maybe he's had to look for an alternative?
Edit; Just watched the vlog and I don't think it's him.
On Adam Brayton's most recent 'GastoVlog' with Danny Hart there's a lad doing shuttle laps with them on the new Forbidden Druid, and they block his...
On Adam Brayton's most recent 'GastoVlog' with Danny Hart there's a lad doing shuttle laps with them on the new Forbidden Druid, and they block his face out.
Not sure if it's just a joke or if there's a new UK rider signed to the Synthesis race team. Any ideas who it could be?
Unfortunately sound like Danny is still looking for a ride.
Probably not synthesis team, there was a lot of Hope gear on that bike, and Schwalbe tyres.
Maybe a new British enduro team?
Matt Stuttard doing his own thing?
On Adam Brayton's most recent 'GastoVlog' with Danny Hart there's a lad doing shuttle laps with them on the new Forbidden Druid, and they block his...
On Adam Brayton's most recent 'GastoVlog' with Danny Hart there's a lad doing shuttle laps with them on the new Forbidden Druid, and they block his face out.
Not sure if it's just a joke or if there's a new UK rider signed to the Synthesis race team. Any ideas who it could be?
Unfortunately sound like Danny is still looking for a ride.
On Adam Brayton's most recent 'GastoVlog' with Danny Hart there's a lad doing shuttle laps with them on the new Forbidden Druid, and they block his...
On Adam Brayton's most recent 'GastoVlog' with Danny Hart there's a lad doing shuttle laps with them on the new Forbidden Druid, and they block his face out.
Not sure if it's just a joke or if there's a new UK rider signed to the Synthesis race team. Any ideas who it could be?
Unfortunately sound like Danny is still looking for a ride.
It's pat campbell, he's the UK forbidden guy and he lives in the lakes.
Anyone besides me think that the performance note in Bex's post is to imply that Yeti found a way to get out of her contract by essentially making something up? Like perhaps she had bonuses that she was entitled to or an automatic renewal of her contract if they didn't find fault in her.
Pointing that part out makes it sound like she had to be fired for cause or her contract would auto renew so they just made it up because the standard wasn't specifically stated as a ranking # in the contract and Contract language was intentionally vague so that they had an out if needed?
can 90% confirm no EDR in 2025 as it will all be E-EDR. DH will be top 15 teams only. Fees went through the roof to...
can 90% confirm no EDR in 2025 as it will all be E-EDR. DH will be top 15 teams only. Fees went through the roof to register for '24. A trade team is now 11,500 Euro and a non-trade team will be 5500 Euro.
it's honestly hilarious that a complete move to e enduro would even been considered. On race day the e bike races are an extreme side show...
it's honestly hilarious that a complete move to e enduro would even been considered. On race day the e bike races are an extreme side show to the actual race, which in turn is a sideshow to the dh/xc races. no racing fan has ever given a shit about e-bike racing, even with the proliferation of ebikes these days
Seriously. The only thing lamer as a pro sport than e-edr is e-xc.
Anyone besides me think that the performance note in Bex's post is to imply that Yeti found a way to get out of her contract by...
Anyone besides me think that the performance note in Bex's post is to imply that Yeti found a way to get out of her contract by essentially making something up? Like perhaps she had bonuses that she was entitled to or an automatic renewal of her contract if they didn't find fault in her.
Pointing that part out makes it sound like she had to be fired for cause or her contract would auto renew so they just made it up because the standard wasn't specifically stated as a ranking # in the contract and Contract language was intentionally vague so that they had an out if needed?
Seems that way, when you check her results and stage times she was consistently good. Above the average. 6 races in top ten, one win. Riders make lucrative careers out of less.
So we can assume Yeti want to cut costs and budget etc..?
Anyone besides me think that the performance note in Bex's post is to imply that Yeti found a way to get out of her contract by...
Anyone besides me think that the performance note in Bex's post is to imply that Yeti found a way to get out of her contract by essentially making something up? Like perhaps she had bonuses that she was entitled to or an automatic renewal of her contract if they didn't find fault in her.
Pointing that part out makes it sound like she had to be fired for cause or her contract would auto renew so they just made it up because the standard wasn't specifically stated as a ranking # in the contract and Contract language was intentionally vague so that they had an out if needed?
That is exactly how I read it. Bex thought she was locked up with Yeti for the next season and then they dismissed her due to a contract stipulation they chose to pursue.
Bex without a ride so far
really hope she finds something because she’s a friggin race winner but with the way EDR is being...
Bex without a ride so far
really hope she finds something because she’s a friggin race winner but with the way EDR is being flushed down the shitter by its organizers right now who knows
I get that her situation might be stressful, but I find it quite disgusting that she felt the need to belittle people working in an honest blue-collar profession. There's nothing bad at all about being an electrician's apprentice. Makes her seem arrogant and entitled in the worst way possible.
Bex without a ride so far
really hope she finds something because she’s a friggin race winner but with the way EDR is being...
Bex without a ride so far
really hope she finds something because she’s a friggin race winner but with the way EDR is being flushed down the shitter by its organizers right now who knows
I get that her situation might be stressful, but I find it quite disgusting that she felt the need to belittle people working in an honest...
I get that her situation might be stressful, but I find it quite disgusting that she felt the need to belittle people working in an honest blue-collar profession. There's nothing bad at all about being an electrician's apprentice. Makes her seem arrogant and entitled in the worst way possible.
Stop being so hyper sensitive. She's a bike rider of course she wants to earn her crust doing what she loves.
I get that her situation might be stressful, but I find it quite disgusting that she felt the need to belittle people working in an honest...
I get that her situation might be stressful, but I find it quite disgusting that she felt the need to belittle people working in an honest blue-collar profession. There's nothing bad at all about being an electrician's apprentice. Makes her seem arrogant and entitled in the worst way possible.
I'm not sure that she's belittling the trade. That might authentically be her backup plan once she's finished racing. My experience is that the English have much greater respect for the trades than the USA.
I get that her situation might be stressful, but I find it quite disgusting that she felt the need to belittle people working in an honest...
I get that her situation might be stressful, but I find it quite disgusting that she felt the need to belittle people working in an honest blue-collar profession. There's nothing bad at all about being an electrician's apprentice. Makes her seem arrogant and entitled in the worst way possible.
em, she's a genuine apprentice electrician pre-race career. You are easily butthurt
I'm not sure that she's belittling the trade. That might authentically be her backup plan once she's finished racing. My experience is that the English have...
I'm not sure that she's belittling the trade. That might authentically be her backup plan once she's finished racing. My experience is that the English have much greater respect for the trades than the USA.
Wow, genuinely surprised to hear that, my experience here in the UK is that a lot of people look down their noses at tradespeople. I thought things were better in the US in that respect.
I'm not sure that she's belittling the trade. That might authentically be her backup plan once she's finished racing. My experience is that the English have...
I'm not sure that she's belittling the trade. That might authentically be her backup plan once she's finished racing. My experience is that the English have much greater respect for the trades than the USA.
Wow, genuinely surprised to hear that, my experience here in the UK is that a lot of people look down their noses at tradespeople. I thought...
Wow, genuinely surprised to hear that, my experience here in the UK is that a lot of people look down their noses at tradespeople. I thought things were better in the US in that respect.
All I can say is there's an obsession over Milwaukee Packout in this country that seems to drive certain tradesmen bankrupt.
Bex without a ride so far
really hope she finds something because she’s a friggin race winner but with the way EDR is being...
Bex without a ride so far
really hope she finds something because she’s a friggin race winner but with the way EDR is being flushed down the shitter by its organizers right now who knows
I get that her situation might be stressful, but I find it quite disgusting that she felt the need to belittle people working in an honest...
I get that her situation might be stressful, but I find it quite disgusting that she felt the need to belittle people working in an honest blue-collar profession. There's nothing bad at all about being an electrician's apprentice. Makes her seem arrogant and entitled in the worst way possible.
I’m an apprentice electrician. Pretty chill job but I can assure you it fucking sucks compared to getting paid to ride bikes and travel the world. Lol.
Bex without a ride so far
really hope she finds something because she’s a friggin race winner but with the way EDR is being...
Bex without a ride so far
really hope she finds something because she’s a friggin race winner but with the way EDR is being flushed down the shitter by its organizers right now who knows
I get that her situation might be stressful, but I find it quite disgusting that she felt the need to belittle people working in an honest...
I get that her situation might be stressful, but I find it quite disgusting that she felt the need to belittle people working in an honest blue-collar profession. There's nothing bad at all about being an electrician's apprentice. Makes her seem arrogant and entitled in the worst way possible.
I’m an apprentice electrician. Pretty chill job but I can assure you it fucking sucks compared to getting paid to ride bikes and travel the world...
I’m an apprentice electrician. Pretty chill job but I can assure you it fucking sucks compared to getting paid to ride bikes and travel the world. Lol.
As a journeyman, I am disappointed not to be racing world cup next year and continue to be just an electrician. I have no problem with she said, you should see what we say to each other on job sites.
Bex without a ride so far
really hope she finds something because she’s a friggin race winner but with the way EDR is being...
Bex without a ride so far
really hope she finds something because she’s a friggin race winner but with the way EDR is being flushed down the shitter by its organizers right now who knows
I get that her situation might be stressful, but I find it quite disgusting that she felt the need to belittle people working in an honest...
I get that her situation might be stressful, but I find it quite disgusting that she felt the need to belittle people working in an honest blue-collar profession. There's nothing bad at all about being an electrician's apprentice. Makes her seem arrogant and entitled in the worst way possible.
Are you joking? Many racers are trained in the trades. Famously Peaty in plumbing. Why would she not be an electrician? Replace it with any job you think, it's still an abrupt change. No one looks down on blue collar workers or their work these days. That's your hangup.
Bex without a ride so far
really hope she finds something because she’s a friggin race winner but with the way EDR is being...
Bex without a ride so far
really hope she finds something because she’s a friggin race winner but with the way EDR is being flushed down the shitter by its organizers right now who knows
I get that her situation might be stressful, but I find it quite disgusting that she felt the need to belittle people working in an honest...
I get that her situation might be stressful, but I find it quite disgusting that she felt the need to belittle people working in an honest blue-collar profession. There's nothing bad at all about being an electrician's apprentice. Makes her seem arrogant and entitled in the worst way possible.
Are you joking? Many racers are trained in the trades. Famously Peaty in plumbing. Why would she not be an electrician? Replace it with any job...
Are you joking? Many racers are trained in the trades. Famously Peaty in plumbing. Why would she not be an electrician? Replace it with any job you think, it's still an abrupt change. No one looks down on blue collar workers or their work these days. That's your hangup.
Bex contract was up…she was on a 2 year contract and her contract was not renewed, because of performance, cost or what ever.
Maybe they gave her assurances, maybe not. I know that is very hard for her, but if your contract is not locked then you try to push and get some good results and media appearance.
There was a statement from yeti as well, and they dropped the name of Jill! Hence Jill Kitner signed with Yeti.
Bex contract was up…she was on a 2 year contract and her contract was not renewed, because of performance, cost or what ever.
Maybe they...
Bex contract was up…she was on a 2 year contract and her contract was not renewed, because of performance, cost or what ever.
Maybe they gave her assurances, maybe not. I know that is very hard for her, but if your contract is not locked then you try to push and get some good results and media appearance.
There was a statement from yeti as well, and they dropped the name of Jill! Hence Jill Kitner signed with Yeti.
It was more they mentioned Jill has ridden for yeti in the past.
“While we understand the disappointment, Yeti Cycles will continue to invest in women riders and have long history of supporting some of the best in the women sport including Juli Furtado, Missy Giove, Marla Streb, Tara Llanes, Jill Kintner, and current Yeti riders Kate Lawrence and Robin Goomes..”
Demanding wasn't the best word. I didn't mean it to say SHE was demanding a paid salary. I'm saying that signing a top 3 or top 5 (Yeti expectation) woman for the 2023 season would require a salary.
I do think that her adding the performance thing is flaming Yeti a bit. Most riders are not re-signed or let go because the didn't reach performance expectations (be it results or social media) and you never hear/see riders posting that in their 'goodbye/contract termination posts'. It's a reality for all riders, but seeing them put it in a post, makes people backlash against the team. Just look at the comments on her post. Lots of people talking poorly on Yeti about her performance comment.
Pinky wrote in an IG comment the other day that he didn’t have the new bike yet. Anyone have the inside line yet?
Still relevant, sets the scene for more rumors, I don't want to be switching threads all the time cause the topic Karen's want everything split .. scroll on if you don't like it .
Does anyone have info about how contracts are structured? (Since we have no idea what Bex's looked like I'm just trying to understand what might have led to this; she's always seemed very positive/pro on Insta and this post is def out of character for her).
I'd expect that the "performance expectations" would be pretty explicit and you either meet them or you don't.
Bex's post makes it sound like this came as a surprise to her (which I think is why folks are reacting negatively to Yeti).
On Adam Brayton's most recent 'GastoVlog' with Danny Hart there's a lad doing shuttle laps with them on the new Forbidden Druid, and they block his face out.
Not sure if it's just a joke or if there's a new UK rider signed to the Synthesis race team. Any ideas who it could be?
Unfortunately sound like Danny is still looking for a ride.
Probably just Alex
edit….its not
I know the 2 of them ride with Elliot Heap at times. As a Nukeproof rider maybe he's had to look for an alternative?
Edit; Just watched the vlog and I don't think it's him.
Could dropping Bex be a move to clear some race budget for a DH rider?
Probably not synthesis team, there was a lot of Hope gear on that bike, and Schwalbe tyres.
Maybe a new British enduro team?
Matt Stuttard doing his own thing?
Looking at her results it wasn't about her performance, so likely budget priorities
GCN+ has also been dropped for 2024... https://www.vitalmtb.com/forums/hub/gcn-app-and-gcn-no-more
Elliot can’t stay quiet for that long (3 seconds)!
It's pat campbell, he's the UK forbidden guy and he lives in the lakes.
Anyone besides me think that the performance note in Bex's post is to imply that Yeti found a way to get out of her contract by essentially making something up? Like perhaps she had bonuses that she was entitled to or an automatic renewal of her contract if they didn't find fault in her.
Pointing that part out makes it sound like she had to be fired for cause or her contract would auto renew so they just made it up because the standard wasn't specifically stated as a ranking # in the contract and Contract language was intentionally vague so that they had an out if needed?
Seriously. The only thing lamer as a pro sport than e-edr is e-xc.
Seems that way, when you check her results and stage times she was consistently good. Above the average. 6 races in top ten, one win. Riders make lucrative careers out of less.
So we can assume Yeti want to cut costs and budget etc..?
That is exactly how I read it. Bex thought she was locked up with Yeti for the next season and then they dismissed her due to a contract stipulation they chose to pursue.
I get that her situation might be stressful, but I find it quite disgusting that she felt the need to belittle people working in an honest blue-collar profession. There's nothing bad at all about being an electrician's apprentice. Makes her seem arrogant and entitled in the worst way possible.
Stop being so hyper sensitive. She's a bike rider of course she wants to earn her crust doing what she loves.
I'm not sure that she's belittling the trade. That might authentically be her backup plan once she's finished racing. My experience is that the English have much greater respect for the trades than the USA.
She also recently posted a photo of some cabling she did into a fuse board and seemed quite proud of how neat a job she did.. Hardly belittling...
em, she's a genuine apprentice electrician pre-race career. You are easily butthurt
Wow, genuinely surprised to hear that, my experience here in the UK is that a lot of people look down their noses at tradespeople. I thought things were better in the US in that respect.
All I can say is there's an obsession over Milwaukee Packout in this country that seems to drive certain tradesmen bankrupt.
I’m an apprentice electrician. Pretty chill job but I can assure you it fucking sucks compared to getting paid to ride bikes and travel the world. Lol.
As a journeyman, I am disappointed not to be racing world cup next year and continue to be just an electrician. I have no problem with she said, you should see what we say to each other on job sites.
Are you joking? Many racers are trained in the trades. Famously Peaty in plumbing. Why would she not be an electrician? Replace it with any job you think, it's still an abrupt change. No one looks down on blue collar workers or their work these days. That's your hangup.
Bex contract was up…she was on a 2 year contract and her contract was not renewed, because of performance, cost or what ever.
Maybe they gave her assurances, maybe not. I know that is very hard for her, but if your contract is not locked then you try to push and get some good results and media appearance.
There was a statement from yeti as well, and they dropped the name of Jill! Hence Jill Kitner signed with Yeti.
It was more they mentioned Jill has ridden for yeti in the past.
“While we understand the disappointment, Yeti Cycles will continue to invest in women riders and have long history of supporting some of the best in the women sport including Juli Furtado, Missy Giove, Marla Streb, Tara Llanes, Jill Kintner, and current Yeti riders Kate Lawrence and Robin Goomes..”
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