Again, Gwin will be collecting a solid check for the frame brand he is riding. He's not going to be on Contra or some tiny brand that can't come up with up $75-100k+/yr for him to ride their frames.
Again, Gwin will be collecting a solid check for the frame brand he is riding. He's not going to be on Contra or some tiny brand...
Again, Gwin will be collecting a solid check for the frame brand he is riding. He's not going to be on Contra or some tiny brand that can't come up with up $75-100k+/yr for him to ride their frames.
I'm no Gwin hater, but I don't think Gwin can pull that kind of salary from a frame sponsor alone when he's running his own team and not on a factory team. Maybe collectively for his whole team, but not by himself. Historically his high payouts were the result of his performance (win) bonus structure. Objectively speaking, the last time Gwin was on a WC podium was 2018. Don't get me wrong, I'm stoked he's still racing and even more stoked he's investing in bike parks, US racing, etc, but I'm not holding my breath that he's going to have the kind of winning season that resulted in his million dollar yearly payout. His name recognition does carry value, but that's only one part of the equation when it comes to sponsors opening their checkbooks.
Again, Gwin will be collecting a solid check for the frame brand he is riding. He's not going to be on Contra or some tiny brand...
Again, Gwin will be collecting a solid check for the frame brand he is riding. He's not going to be on Contra or some tiny brand that can't come up with up $75-100k+/yr for him to ride their frames.
I'm no Gwin hater, but I don't think Gwin can pull that kind of salary from a frame sponsor alone when he's running his own team...
I'm no Gwin hater, but I don't think Gwin can pull that kind of salary from a frame sponsor alone when he's running his own team and not on a factory team. Maybe collectively for his whole team, but not by himself. Historically his high payouts were the result of his performance (win) bonus structure. Objectively speaking, the last time Gwin was on a WC podium was 2018. Don't get me wrong, I'm stoked he's still racing and even more stoked he's investing in bike parks, US racing, etc, but I'm not holding my breath that he's going to have the kind of winning season that resulted in his million dollar yearly payout. His name recognition does carry value, but that's only one part of the equation when it comes to sponsors opening their checkbooks.
Well Gwin was on the podium (4th) in Val Di Sole in 2022....
Again, Gwin will be collecting a solid check for the frame brand he is riding. He's not going to be on Contra or some tiny brand...
Again, Gwin will be collecting a solid check for the frame brand he is riding. He's not going to be on Contra or some tiny brand that can't come up with up $75-100k+/yr for him to ride their frames.
I'm no Gwin hater, but I don't think Gwin can pull that kind of salary from a frame sponsor alone when he's running his own team...
I'm no Gwin hater, but I don't think Gwin can pull that kind of salary from a frame sponsor alone when he's running his own team and not on a factory team. Maybe collectively for his whole team, but not by himself. Historically his high payouts were the result of his performance (win) bonus structure. Objectively speaking, the last time Gwin was on a WC podium was 2018. Don't get me wrong, I'm stoked he's still racing and even more stoked he's investing in bike parks, US racing, etc, but I'm not holding my breath that he's going to have the kind of winning season that resulted in his million dollar yearly payout. His name recognition does carry value, but that's only one part of the equation when it comes to sponsors opening their checkbooks.
Probably not a salary. But 75 - 100k to cover a part of expenses seems more than plausible
Again, Gwin will be collecting a solid check for the frame brand he is riding. He's not going to be on Contra or some tiny brand...
Again, Gwin will be collecting a solid check for the frame brand he is riding. He's not going to be on Contra or some tiny brand that can't come up with up $75-100k+/yr for him to ride their frames.
I'm no Gwin hater, but I don't think Gwin can pull that kind of salary from a frame sponsor alone when he's running his own team...
I'm no Gwin hater, but I don't think Gwin can pull that kind of salary from a frame sponsor alone when he's running his own team and not on a factory team. Maybe collectively for his whole team, but not by himself. Historically his high payouts were the result of his performance (win) bonus structure. Objectively speaking, the last time Gwin was on a WC podium was 2018. Don't get me wrong, I'm stoked he's still racing and even more stoked he's investing in bike parks, US racing, etc, but I'm not holding my breath that he's going to have the kind of winning season that resulted in his million dollar yearly payout. His name recognition does carry value, but that's only one part of the equation when it comes to sponsors opening their checkbooks.
Again, Gwin will be collecting a solid check for the frame brand he is riding. He's not going to be on Contra or some tiny brand...
Again, Gwin will be collecting a solid check for the frame brand he is riding. He's not going to be on Contra or some tiny brand that can't come up with up $75-100k+/yr for him to ride their frames.
I'm no Gwin hater, but I don't think Gwin can pull that kind of salary from a frame sponsor alone when he's running his own team...
I'm no Gwin hater, but I don't think Gwin can pull that kind of salary from a frame sponsor alone when he's running his own team and not on a factory team. Maybe collectively for his whole team, but not by himself. Historically his high payouts were the result of his performance (win) bonus structure. Objectively speaking, the last time Gwin was on a WC podium was 2018. Don't get me wrong, I'm stoked he's still racing and even more stoked he's investing in bike parks, US racing, etc, but I'm not holding my breath that he's going to have the kind of winning season that resulted in his million dollar yearly payout. His name recognition does carry value, but that's only one part of the equation when it comes to sponsors opening their checkbooks.
I'm no Gwin hater, but I don't think Gwin can pull that kind of salary from a frame sponsor alone when he's running his own team...
I'm no Gwin hater, but I don't think Gwin can pull that kind of salary from a frame sponsor alone when he's running his own team and not on a factory team. Maybe collectively for his whole team, but not by himself. Historically his high payouts were the result of his performance (win) bonus structure. Objectively speaking, the last time Gwin was on a WC podium was 2018. Don't get me wrong, I'm stoked he's still racing and even more stoked he's investing in bike parks, US racing, etc, but I'm not holding my breath that he's going to have the kind of winning season that resulted in his million dollar yearly payout. His name recognition does carry value, but that's only one part of the equation when it comes to sponsors opening their checkbooks.
Again, Gwin will be collecting a solid check for the frame brand he is riding. He's not going to be on Contra or some tiny brand...
Again, Gwin will be collecting a solid check for the frame brand he is riding. He's not going to be on Contra or some tiny brand that can't come up with up $75-100k+/yr for him to ride their frames.
I'm no Gwin hater, but I don't think Gwin can pull that kind of salary from a frame sponsor alone when he's running his own team...
I'm no Gwin hater, but I don't think Gwin can pull that kind of salary from a frame sponsor alone when he's running his own team and not on a factory team. Maybe collectively for his whole team, but not by himself. Historically his high payouts were the result of his performance (win) bonus structure. Objectively speaking, the last time Gwin was on a WC podium was 2018. Don't get me wrong, I'm stoked he's still racing and even more stoked he's investing in bike parks, US racing, etc, but I'm not holding my breath that he's going to have the kind of winning season that resulted in his million dollar yearly payout. His name recognition does carry value, but that's only one part of the equation when it comes to sponsors opening their checkbooks.
He might get more as a non factory team. They can just throw money and product his way - they don’t have to pay the team manager’s salary, the videographer, the travel expenses, the mechanic, etc. It’s far cheaper to be non-title sponsor.
Again, Gwin will be collecting a solid check for the frame brand he is riding. He's not going to be on Contra or some tiny brand...
Again, Gwin will be collecting a solid check for the frame brand he is riding. He's not going to be on Contra or some tiny brand that can't come up with up $75-100k+/yr for him to ride their frames.
I'm no Gwin hater, but I don't think Gwin can pull that kind of salary from a frame sponsor alone when he's running his own team...
I'm no Gwin hater, but I don't think Gwin can pull that kind of salary from a frame sponsor alone when he's running his own team and not on a factory team. Maybe collectively for his whole team, but not by himself. Historically his high payouts were the result of his performance (win) bonus structure. Objectively speaking, the last time Gwin was on a WC podium was 2018. Don't get me wrong, I'm stoked he's still racing and even more stoked he's investing in bike parks, US racing, etc, but I'm not holding my breath that he's going to have the kind of winning season that resulted in his million dollar yearly payout. His name recognition does carry value, but that's only one part of the equation when it comes to sponsors opening their checkbooks.
That's simply not true.
Gwin was on the podium 3 times in 2022, in Val di Sole, MSA and Andorra. He actually finished 6 of 8 worldcup races in the Top 20. Say what you will, but those are better results than what most racers will achieve in their entire career. Gwin certainly has the results to back up his reputation.
That's simply not true.
Gwin was on the podium 3 times in 2022, in Val di Sole, MSA and Andorra. He actually finished 6 of 8...
That's simply not true.
Gwin was on the podium 3 times in 2022, in Val di Sole, MSA and Andorra. He actually finished 6 of 8 worldcup races in the Top 20. Say what you will, but those are better results than what most racers will achieve in their entire career. Gwin certainly has the results to back up his reputation.
a solid season no doubt, but 3 of the last 5 years he's missed roughly half or more of the races in a season due to injury. granted that can happen to anyone in this sport, but with sponsors tightening their budgets, they won't ignore that.
a solid season no doubt, but 3 of the last 5 years he's missed roughly half or more of the races in a season due to...
a solid season no doubt, but 3 of the last 5 years he's missed roughly half or more of the races in a season due to injury. granted that can happen to anyone in this sport, but with sponsors tightening their budgets, they won't ignore that.
Your reasoning is... okay I guess. But don't forget no racer screams "Murica" for the mainstream mtber more than AG, I think THAT is pretty appealing for US brands... Or brands that want bigger recognition in the USA.
So Trek, (Specialized), GT, Yeti or Commençal, all of them should work 🤷🏻♂️
Intense would seem like the easy answer. But why would you and the brand go radio silent for 2 straight months while you're rolling the frame out of production. You'd want it known Gwin is sticking with his design from day 0.
Your reasoning is... okay I guess. But don't forget no racer screams "Murica" for the mainstream mtber more than AG, I think THAT is pretty appealing...
Your reasoning is... okay I guess. But don't forget no racer screams "Murica" for the mainstream mtber more than AG, I think THAT is pretty appealing for US brands... Or brands that want bigger recognition in the USA.
So Trek, (Specialized), GT, Yeti or Commençal, all of them should work 🤷🏻♂️
oh for sure, don't get me wrong, he's by and far the best thing that's happened to american mountain bike racing (not just downhill) in probably 2 decades. and with the moves he's been making lately (windrock, etc) he's clearly investing in the future of the sport which is awesome and there needs to be more of that. but its now been almost 7 years since he's had the kind of dominant season that established him as one of the best racers ever. he's by no means washed up, but he's not gonna be able to pull the kind of base salary he was able to when he was outside the top 5 once a season. especially not with the kind of retraction that's currently going on in the bike industry.
With Trek having a smaller WC team this year they might be interested in having the American swing a leg over their bikes and go do some racing. They got the cash and Gwin has good history with Trek.
With Trek having a smaller WC team this year they might be interested in having the American swing a leg over their bikes and go do...
With Trek having a smaller WC team this year they might be interested in having the American swing a leg over their bikes and go do some racing. They got the cash and Gwin has good history with Trek.
yeah, but i doubt he would be riding sram stuff, especially RS suspension.
With Trek having a smaller WC team this year they might be interested in having the American swing a leg over their bikes and go do...
With Trek having a smaller WC team this year they might be interested in having the American swing a leg over their bikes and go do some racing. They got the cash and Gwin has good history with Trek.
good history with trek? have we forgotten the debacle of how he left? remember the letter of intent?
Logically it makes in my mind to stay on Intense. He’s developed the bike and Seth is familiar, helps Seth continue to grow and develop. Sticking to a platform they were so close to winning on.
Never mind the fucking bike company named Crestline, who, in their own words are, "inspired by the terrain that surrounded the founders homes in Southern California, and even naming the company after Crestline CA - a renown local DH shuttle zone"
Big, big secret. Wait'll you hear about this wave outside of Half Moon Bay.
Never mind the fucking bike company named Crestline, who, in their own words are, "inspired by the terrain that surrounded the founders homes in Southern California...
Never mind the fucking bike company named Crestline, who, in their own words are, "inspired by the terrain that surrounded the founders homes in Southern California, and even naming the company after Crestline CA - a renown local DH shuttle zone"
Big, big secret. Wait'll you hear about this wave outside of Half Moon Bay.
As someone who can see the iconic radar dome from my house, you have no idea how accurate this is. "Locals only, man!"
a solid season no doubt, but 3 of the last 5 years he's missed roughly half or more of the races in a season due to...
a solid season no doubt, but 3 of the last 5 years he's missed roughly half or more of the races in a season due to injury. granted that can happen to anyone in this sport, but with sponsors tightening their budgets, they won't ignore that.
Same can be said for Amaury Pierron and no one seems to question his value. When Gwin is healthy and has confidence in his setup, he is still seriously fast. You will probably never see the YOLO laps from him, but he knows how to get a bike down a hill rapidly.
Same can be said for Amaury Pierron and no one seems to question his value. When Gwin is healthy and has confidence in his setup, he...
Same can be said for Amaury Pierron and no one seems to question his value. When Gwin is healthy and has confidence in his setup, he is still seriously fast. You will probably never see the YOLO laps from him, but he knows how to get a bike down a hill rapidly.
2024 will be Gwin's 17th season in Elite vs Pierron's 10th. different points in their respective careers, 9 year age difference too.
Isn’t Specialized already listed as rentals for Windrock? Thought that it was posted in here.
Again, Gwin will be collecting a solid check for the frame brand he is riding. He's not going to be on Contra or some tiny brand that can't come up with up $75-100k+/yr for him to ride their frames.
I'm no Gwin hater, but I don't think Gwin can pull that kind of salary from a frame sponsor alone when he's running his own team and not on a factory team. Maybe collectively for his whole team, but not by himself. Historically his high payouts were the result of his performance (win) bonus structure. Objectively speaking, the last time Gwin was on a WC podium was 2018. Don't get me wrong, I'm stoked he's still racing and even more stoked he's investing in bike parks, US racing, etc, but I'm not holding my breath that he's going to have the kind of winning season that resulted in his million dollar yearly payout. His name recognition does carry value, but that's only one part of the equation when it comes to sponsors opening their checkbooks.
a mix of commencal and specialized
https://windrockbikepark.com/pages/rental-bikes
Well Gwin was on the podium (4th) in Val Di Sole in 2022....
Just saying
Probably not a salary. But 75 - 100k to cover a part of expenses seems more than plausible
yes but he didn't get the podium icon on roots and rain
didn't he have 2 podiums that year if I remember correctly?
Three 4th places. Maybe podium wasn't the correct term for what I meant, which was medal position.
He might get more as a non factory team. They can just throw money and product his way - they don’t have to pay the team manager’s salary, the videographer, the travel expenses, the mechanic, etc. It’s far cheaper to be non-title sponsor.
Was Just thinking this today.. no idea on feasibility. But would love to see it!
That's simply not true.
Gwin was on the podium 3 times in 2022, in Val di Sole, MSA and Andorra. He actually finished 6 of 8 worldcup races in the Top 20. Say what you will, but those are better results than what most racers will achieve in their entire career. Gwin certainly has the results to back up his reputation.
a solid season no doubt, but 3 of the last 5 years he's missed roughly half or more of the races in a season due to injury. granted that can happen to anyone in this sport, but with sponsors tightening their budgets, they won't ignore that.
then the waltons can buy them too and move the company to bentonville!
Your reasoning is... okay I guess. But don't forget no racer screams "Murica" for the mainstream mtber more than AG, I think THAT is pretty appealing for US brands... Or brands that want bigger recognition in the USA.
So Trek, (Specialized), GT, Yeti or Commençal, all of them should work 🤷🏻♂️
Intense would seem like the easy answer. But why would you and the brand go radio silent for 2 straight months while you're rolling the frame out of production. You'd want it known Gwin is sticking with his design from day 0.
So let's eliminate Intense.
oh for sure, don't get me wrong, he's by and far the best thing that's happened to american mountain bike racing (not just downhill) in probably 2 decades. and with the moves he's been making lately (windrock, etc) he's clearly investing in the future of the sport which is awesome and there needs to be more of that. but its now been almost 7 years since he's had the kind of dominant season that established him as one of the best racers ever. he's by no means washed up, but he's not gonna be able to pull the kind of base salary he was able to when he was outside the top 5 once a season. especially not with the kind of retraction that's currently going on in the bike industry.
With Trek having a smaller WC team this year they might be interested in having the American swing a leg over their bikes and go do some racing. They got the cash and Gwin has good history with Trek.
yeah, but i doubt he would be riding sram stuff, especially RS suspension.
good history with trek? have we forgotten the debacle of how he left? remember the letter of intent?
I would imagine Kyle would FOCUS on a brand with a DH bike but maybe that's not a requirement?
🤔
Getting in on the AG frame conversation
Logically it makes in my mind to stay on Intense. He’s developed the bike and Seth is familiar, helps Seth continue to grow and develop. Sticking to a platform they were so close to winning on.
long shot like a million to 1 odds
Devinci or Marin frames
🤷🏼♂️
Is Danerbomb "Just a straight up unreliable narc of a human." too?
Never heard of the place
Never mind the fucking bike company named Crestline, who, in their own words are, "inspired by the terrain that surrounded the founders homes in Southern California, and even naming the company after Crestline CA - a renown local DH shuttle zone"
Big, big secret. Wait'll you hear about this wave outside of Half Moon Bay.
Same can be said for Amaury Pierron and no one seems to question his value. When Gwin is healthy and has confidence in his setup, he is still seriously fast. You will probably never see the YOLO laps from him, but he knows how to get a bike down a hill rapidly.
Back off, Warchild!
Kolb broke his arm in NZ
2024 will be Gwin's 17th season in Elite vs Pierron's 10th. different points in their respective careers, 9 year age difference too.
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