2024 TEAM RUMORS

1/23/2024 1:01pm
skivt27 wrote:

Looks like a Fezzari 

Powfoka wrote:

Was my first thought.. Outline looks exactly like their Delano model. Would be a big win for Fezzari

The Delano was offered in blue, and you can see part of the bike in that pic.....in a similar blue. It was also first offered with...

The Delano was offered in blue, and you can see part of the bike in that pic.....in a similar blue. It was also first offered with DPX2, and it has UDH....

I'm always looking for an excuse to post music, and this feels fitting 

 

 

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1/23/2024 1:02pm Edited Date/Time 1/23/2024 1:03pm

Regarding Neko's budget for Frameworks, when I first saw the interview for some reason I thought the number he quoted came across as the budget without salary, just the budget to run all the rest of the operations for the team for the season. Maybe I am totally wrong. 

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1/23/2024 1:10pm

Sure says a lot about Neko's frames if Angel picks them to ride when money isn't in the equation, and he could ride just about any frame. 

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Sure says a lot about Neko's frames if Angel picks them to ride when money isn't in the equation, and he could ride just about any...

Sure says a lot about Neko's frames if Angel picks them to ride when money isn't in the equation, and he could ride just about any frame. 

Watching the team launch video, Angel had never even ridden the frame until that day. That's a huge risk IMO but then again these guys are fast no matter what and can adapt. He must have really trusted Neko's Geo/kinematic.

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1/23/2024 1:24pm Edited Date/Time 1/23/2024 1:25pm
brash wrote:
Watching the team launch video, Angel had never even ridden the frame until that day. That's a huge risk IMO but then again these guys are...

Watching the team launch video, Angel had never even ridden the frame until that day. That's a huge risk IMO but then again these guys are fast no matter what and can adapt. He must have really trusted Neko's Geo/kinematic.

That and the fact he's managed by Martin Whitely and probably didn't have many other options, Frameworks was his best option.  If he does well this year maybe he'll get better offers.

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1/23/2024 1:40pm

Surprised nobody mentioned the proto Tues in the video with Vali.  It was fully cloaked, but still...

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1/23/2024 1:46pm

best thing about the D.Norton hands pic is he had to ask someone else to take it! 

the conspiracy is growing...pretty soon someone will cave...

(or there'll be an announcement the day after tomorrow)

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1/23/2024 2:07pm Edited Date/Time 1/23/2024 2:08pm
Also, update on #frecklegate. He's playing hard to get. 

Also, update on #frecklegate. He's playing hard to get. 

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Is there a hand version of wikifeet?

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hwizzle32 wrote:
Hopefully this means Kyle Strait has found a frame sponsor after being collateral damage due to the CRC wiggle debacle. 

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Hopefully this means Kyle Strait has found a frame sponsor after being collateral damage due to the CRC wiggle debacle. 

skivt27 wrote:

Looks like a Fezzari 

Funny, Fezzari was my first thought too. The visible shock compression knob is a Fox DPX2 knob--not sponsor-correct for Strait (I'm sure it'll be replaced by...

Funny, Fezzari was my first thought too.

The visible shock compression knob is a Fox DPX2 knob--not sponsor-correct for Strait (I'm sure it'll be replaced by the time we see the full bike) and also mostly superseded by the new Float X now for OEM spec. Which, to me, suggests somebody pulled out a previous model-year frame (leftover stock, or maybe unused warranty stock) to get him rolling on a bike as quickly as possible. Curious to see what it turns out to be.

They do offer Delano peak builds with the XX Transmission, Stans wheels, and that looks like a DHF front tire and Aggressor rear. I'd say a good guess on the Fezzari Delano peak.

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Also, update on #frecklegate. He's playing hard to get. 

Also, update on #frecklegate. He's playing hard to get. 

image-20240123130511-1

Is there a hand version of wikifeet?

Ew.

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Salespunk wrote:
Surprised nobody mentioned the proto Tues in the video with Vali.  It was fully cloaked, but still...

Surprised nobody mentioned the proto Tues in the video with Vali.  It was fully cloaked, but still...

Sian Ahern was riding a neoprene wrapped Tues proto in one of Jack Moir's recent videos too

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1/23/2024 3:23pm
skivt27 wrote:

Looks like a Fezzari 

Funny, Fezzari was my first thought too. The visible shock compression knob is a Fox DPX2 knob--not sponsor-correct for Strait (I'm sure it'll be replaced by...

Funny, Fezzari was my first thought too.

The visible shock compression knob is a Fox DPX2 knob--not sponsor-correct for Strait (I'm sure it'll be replaced by the time we see the full bike) and also mostly superseded by the new Float X now for OEM spec. Which, to me, suggests somebody pulled out a previous model-year frame (leftover stock, or maybe unused warranty stock) to get him rolling on a bike as quickly as possible. Curious to see what it turns out to be.

chacou wrote:
They do offer Delano peak builds with the XX Transmission, Stans wheels, and that looks like a DHF front tire and Aggressor rear. I'd say a...

They do offer Delano peak builds with the XX Transmission, Stans wheels, and that looks like a DHF front tire and Aggressor rear. I'd say a good guess on the Fezzari Delano peak.

I'll just stop the wound from bleeding more, not a fezz.

 

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I'm always looking for an excuse to post music, and this feels fitting     

I'm always looking for an excuse to post music, and this feels fitting 

 

 

Haha, I also use this song quite a bit, when the talk is about waiting. Great match!

Mx

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1/23/2024 4:18pm
Powfoka wrote:

Was my first thought.. Outline looks exactly like their Delano model. Would be a big win for Fezzari

The Delano was offered in blue, and you can see part of the bike in that pic.....in a similar blue. It was also first offered with...

The Delano was offered in blue, and you can see part of the bike in that pic.....in a similar blue. It was also first offered with DPX2, and it has UDH....

I'm always looking for an excuse to post music, and this feels fitting     

I'm always looking for an excuse to post music, and this feels fitting 

 

 

I wanna know who the hell is downvoting Fugazi.

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1/23/2024 4:24pm
Funny, Fezzari was my first thought too. The visible shock compression knob is a Fox DPX2 knob--not sponsor-correct for Strait (I'm sure it'll be replaced by...

Funny, Fezzari was my first thought too.

The visible shock compression knob is a Fox DPX2 knob--not sponsor-correct for Strait (I'm sure it'll be replaced by the time we see the full bike) and also mostly superseded by the new Float X now for OEM spec. Which, to me, suggests somebody pulled out a previous model-year frame (leftover stock, or maybe unused warranty stock) to get him rolling on a bike as quickly as possible. Curious to see what it turns out to be.

chacou wrote:
They do offer Delano peak builds with the XX Transmission, Stans wheels, and that looks like a DHF front tire and Aggressor rear. I'd say a...

They do offer Delano peak builds with the XX Transmission, Stans wheels, and that looks like a DHF front tire and Aggressor rear. I'd say a good guess on the Fezzari Delano peak.

I'll just stop the wound from bleeding more, not a fezz.

 

Id bet money she's not the only one in the household making the switch...

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Something I learned this year was how difficult the timing is - a few things I never considered. Not all of a rider's sponsors line up...

Something I learned this year was how difficult the timing is - a few things I never considered.

Not all of a rider's sponsors line up to end on the same date. Can't takea pic in your new TL kit if Alpine was doing your old and you are still under contract for them...so multiply that my all the support a team has for the existing and new riders.

Then, once all that is finally squared, the logistics of an announcement have to match up...got to plan the photo, video, place...hope it's not raining etc.

Here is a big one: teams are always trying to capture that dollar, so the hustle to get sponsors doesn't end...So you cannot get the kit printed until you are fully satisfied...and size matters. Usually, the biggest $$ provided is bigger than a smaller dollar provider...then of course you need to get the kits to the riders...

Until this season, I just assumed you get the bike and take a picture. LOL....

 

I respect the hustle.

 

I also wish we could get more outside the sport sponsor money rolling in for these guys. They definetly desrve it. ESO just needs to figure out a way to make it more spectator friendly I suppose...but damn, Ford was a sponsor in Freecaster days...what happened...

 

I second the outside sponsors support. Go back 15-20 years plus and there were quite a few teams sponsored by car brands. GT/Chevrolet, Giant/Toyota, Trek/VW, Mondraker/Suburu, Kona/Ford Focus to name a few. Plus the MTB World Cup series being sponsored by Nissan and Mercedes in the past as well. Kinda surprised it isn't kinda still a thing, as teams and riders all need wheels to move around.

Maybe motor brands don't see the value of sponsoring a sport that's unfamiliar to a lot of people and athletes they've never heard of.....something that's quite apparent this side of the pond. Unless you're clad in lycra riding a bike with drop bars and take performance enhancing drugs, the UK media and British Cycling aren't interested. But that's a rant for another thread probably...

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dylanjp006 wrote:
New gt race team in nz, riders yet to be officially announced but i know who two of them are. Bit of a development team to...

IMG 8792.png?VersionId=Q6MKyu2seC5p93UNqUNv1wrW6Dpe1New gt race team in nz, riders yet to be officially announced but i know who two of them are. Bit of a development team to get riders prepared for the future 

There's a GT/Viris youth development team in the UK run by Andy Ward who runs Viris, and I vaguely remember seeing something on the gram a while back that they had some big plans for this year, so wonder if he's going global on the youth development. The Griffiths lads were both on the team in the past.

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1/23/2024 4:53pm
Something I learned this year was how difficult the timing is - a few things I never considered. Not all of a rider's sponsors line up...

Something I learned this year was how difficult the timing is - a few things I never considered.

Not all of a rider's sponsors line up to end on the same date. Can't takea pic in your new TL kit if Alpine was doing your old and you are still under contract for them...so multiply that my all the support a team has for the existing and new riders.

Then, once all that is finally squared, the logistics of an announcement have to match up...got to plan the photo, video, place...hope it's not raining etc.

Here is a big one: teams are always trying to capture that dollar, so the hustle to get sponsors doesn't end...So you cannot get the kit printed until you are fully satisfied...and size matters. Usually, the biggest $$ provided is bigger than a smaller dollar provider...then of course you need to get the kits to the riders...

Until this season, I just assumed you get the bike and take a picture. LOL....

 

I respect the hustle.

 

I also wish we could get more outside the sport sponsor money rolling in for these guys. They definetly desrve it. ESO just needs to figure out a way to make it more spectator friendly I suppose...but damn, Ford was a sponsor in Freecaster days...what happened...

 

Togger250 wrote:
I second the outside sponsors support. Go back 15-20 years plus and there were quite a few teams sponsored by car brands. GT/Chevrolet, Giant/Toyota, Trek/VW, Mondraker/Suburu...

I second the outside sponsors support. Go back 15-20 years plus and there were quite a few teams sponsored by car brands. GT/Chevrolet, Giant/Toyota, Trek/VW, Mondraker/Suburu, Kona/Ford Focus to name a few. Plus the MTB World Cup series being sponsored by Nissan and Mercedes in the past as well. Kinda surprised it isn't kinda still a thing, as teams and riders all need wheels to move around.

Maybe motor brands don't see the value of sponsoring a sport that's unfamiliar to a lot of people and athletes they've never heard of.....something that's quite apparent this side of the pond. Unless you're clad in lycra riding a bike with drop bars and take performance enhancing drugs, the UK media and British Cycling aren't interested. But that's a rant for another thread probably...

Post your rant in the 'Illegal Trails' thread.  I'm sure the big auto makers would just love, love, being forcibly associated with a bunch of hooligans trespassing if not committing crimes against the eco-structure for their 'sport'.  

,,,you were saying?

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dylanjp006 wrote:
New gt race team in nz, riders yet to be officially announced but i know who two of them are. Bit of a development team to...

IMG 8792.png?VersionId=Q6MKyu2seC5p93UNqUNv1wrW6Dpe1New gt race team in nz, riders yet to be officially announced but i know who two of them are. Bit of a development team to get riders prepared for the future 

Togger250 wrote:
There's a GT/Viris youth development team in the UK run by Andy Ward who runs Viris, and I vaguely remember seeing something on the gram a...

There's a GT/Viris youth development team in the UK run by Andy Ward who runs Viris, and I vaguely remember seeing something on the gram a while back that they had some big plans for this year, so wonder if he's going global on the youth development. The Griffiths lads were both on the team in the past.

Yeah pretty sure cam cole who was the team manager for gt factory has quite a bit to do with viris brand in nz and this new race team

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As I get ready for bed, I know that my excitement for what may be announced tomorrow is going to get me up a bit earlier. It's like one of those wrapped gifts you find a few weeks later that someone forgot to put under the tree....see you tomorrow.......DN!

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Something I learned this year was how difficult the timing is - a few things I never considered. Not all of a rider's sponsors line up...

Something I learned this year was how difficult the timing is - a few things I never considered.

Not all of a rider's sponsors line up to end on the same date. Can't takea pic in your new TL kit if Alpine was doing your old and you are still under contract for them...so multiply that my all the support a team has for the existing and new riders.

Then, once all that is finally squared, the logistics of an announcement have to match up...got to plan the photo, video, place...hope it's not raining etc.

Here is a big one: teams are always trying to capture that dollar, so the hustle to get sponsors doesn't end...So you cannot get the kit printed until you are fully satisfied...and size matters. Usually, the biggest $$ provided is bigger than a smaller dollar provider...then of course you need to get the kits to the riders...

Until this season, I just assumed you get the bike and take a picture. LOL....

 

I respect the hustle.

 

I also wish we could get more outside the sport sponsor money rolling in for these guys. They definetly desrve it. ESO just needs to figure out a way to make it more spectator friendly I suppose...but damn, Ford was a sponsor in Freecaster days...what happened...

 

Togger250 wrote:
I second the outside sponsors support. Go back 15-20 years plus and there were quite a few teams sponsored by car brands. GT/Chevrolet, Giant/Toyota, Trek/VW, Mondraker/Suburu...

I second the outside sponsors support. Go back 15-20 years plus and there were quite a few teams sponsored by car brands. GT/Chevrolet, Giant/Toyota, Trek/VW, Mondraker/Suburu, Kona/Ford Focus to name a few. Plus the MTB World Cup series being sponsored by Nissan and Mercedes in the past as well. Kinda surprised it isn't kinda still a thing, as teams and riders all need wheels to move around.

Maybe motor brands don't see the value of sponsoring a sport that's unfamiliar to a lot of people and athletes they've never heard of.....something that's quite apparent this side of the pond. Unless you're clad in lycra riding a bike with drop bars and take performance enhancing drugs, the UK media and British Cycling aren't interested. But that's a rant for another thread probably...

Post your rant in the 'Illegal Trails' thread.  I'm sure the big auto makers would just love, love, being forcibly associated with a bunch of...

Post your rant in the 'Illegal Trails' thread.  I'm sure the big auto makers would just love, love, being forcibly associated with a bunch of hooligans trespassing if not committing crimes against the eco-structure for their 'sport'.  

,,,you were saying?

Did the Fugazi get your 90s scene kid self-righteousness going? I mean the irony of auto makers being upset with “crimes against the eco-structure” is a bit much. Pretty fine line between the environmental crimes of unsanctioned trail building and the use of large earth movers to build legal trail. Also derailing the team rumors thread? Again?? Must be the end of silly season. Maybe you can take the trail crimes debate to Trinidad, Colorado. https://www.vitalmtb.com/forums/hub/trinidad-colorado

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Did the Fugazi get your 90s scene kid self-righteousness going? I mean the irony of auto makers being upset with “crimes against the eco-structure” is a bit...

Did the Fugazi get your 90s scene kid self-righteousness going? I mean the irony of auto makers being upset with “crimes against the eco-structure” is a bit much. Pretty fine line between the environmental crimes of unsanctioned trail building and the use of large earth movers to build legal trail. Also derailing the team rumors thread? Again?? Must be the end of silly season. Maybe you can take the trail crimes debate to Trinidad, Colorado. https://www.vitalmtb.com/forums/hub/trinidad-colorado

So - you endorse poaching land for your hobby?  And - because you're able to 'justify' efforts by way of what-aboutisms, everyone else is on board, even if they're not?

Sorry bud, MTB had soul once upon a time.  That's long gone.   It's just beating itself into the ground at this point.

Also - I wasn't the one to derail the thread.  

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Did the Fugazi get your 90s scene kid self-righteousness going? I mean the irony of auto makers being upset with “crimes against the eco-structure” is a bit...

Did the Fugazi get your 90s scene kid self-righteousness going? I mean the irony of auto makers being upset with “crimes against the eco-structure” is a bit much. Pretty fine line between the environmental crimes of unsanctioned trail building and the use of large earth movers to build legal trail. Also derailing the team rumors thread? Again?? Must be the end of silly season. Maybe you can take the trail crimes debate to Trinidad, Colorado. https://www.vitalmtb.com/forums/hub/trinidad-colorado

So - you endorse poaching land for your hobby?  And - because you're able to 'justify' efforts by way of what-aboutisms, everyone else is on board...

So - you endorse poaching land for your hobby?  And - because you're able to 'justify' efforts by way of what-aboutisms, everyone else is on board, even if they're not?

Sorry bud, MTB had soul once upon a time.  That's long gone.   It's just beating itself into the ground at this point.

Also - I wasn't the one to derail the thread.  

Sir, this is a Wendy’s… On another note, I hope frecklegate gets discussed on a future B Practice Podcast. 

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The admittedly unclear implication was that “we” derailed the thread and I neither endorsed unsanctioned trails nor demonized them. I just gave us a new place to argue about it. I am keenly aware of and sensitive to the potential for unsanctioned trails to impact legal access. I more took issue with the term eco-crimes and the idea that these trails cause any more meaningful damage than legal trails which seemed a bit extreme in the grand scheme of the late capitalist human shitshow. I will say that the original sin of American MTB occurred in a place where to this day it is mostly illegal to ride singletrack and whether any of us like it or not the historical “soul” of our sport is inexorably tied to riding unsanctioned trails. And, for the sake of staying vaguely on topic, generations of North American gravity racers likely would not have developed the skills necessary to compete on European tracks without them. 

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The admittedly unclear implication was that “we” derailed the thread and I neither endorsed unsanctioned trails nor demonized them. I just gave us a new place...

The admittedly unclear implication was that “we” derailed the thread and I neither endorsed unsanctioned trails nor demonized them. I just gave us a new place to argue about it. I am keenly aware of and sensitive to the potential for unsanctioned trails to impact legal access. I more took issue with the term eco-crimes and the idea that these trails cause any more meaningful damage than legal trails which seemed a bit extreme in the grand scheme of the late capitalist human shitshow. I will say that the original sin of American MTB occurred in a place where to this day it is mostly illegal to ride singletrack and whether any of us like it or not the historical “soul” of our sport is inexorably tied to riding unsanctioned trails. And, for the sake of staying vaguely on topic, generations of North American gravity racers likely would not have developed the skills necessary to compete on European tracks without them. 

Had to find my old login just to upvote this post. 

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1/23/2024 8:03pm Edited Date/Time 1/23/2024 8:04pm
Funny, Fezzari was my first thought too. The visible shock compression knob is a Fox DPX2 knob--not sponsor-correct for Strait (I'm sure it'll be replaced by...

Funny, Fezzari was my first thought too.

The visible shock compression knob is a Fox DPX2 knob--not sponsor-correct for Strait (I'm sure it'll be replaced by the time we see the full bike) and also mostly superseded by the new Float X now for OEM spec. Which, to me, suggests somebody pulled out a previous model-year frame (leftover stock, or maybe unused warranty stock) to get him rolling on a bike as quickly as possible. Curious to see what it turns out to be.

chacou wrote:
They do offer Delano peak builds with the XX Transmission, Stans wheels, and that looks like a DHF front tire and Aggressor rear. I'd say a...

They do offer Delano peak builds with the XX Transmission, Stans wheels, and that looks like a DHF front tire and Aggressor rear. I'd say a good guess on the Fezzari Delano peak.

I'll just stop the wound from bleeding more, not a fezz.

 

Who wants to bet it's not a Fezz?

 

I'm butt hurt by the down votes ppl!

 

I want action on this one!

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Something I learned this year was how difficult the timing is - a few things I never considered. Not all of a rider's sponsors line up...

Something I learned this year was how difficult the timing is - a few things I never considered.

Not all of a rider's sponsors line up to end on the same date. Can't takea pic in your new TL kit if Alpine was doing your old and you are still under contract for them...so multiply that my all the support a team has for the existing and new riders.

Then, once all that is finally squared, the logistics of an announcement have to match up...got to plan the photo, video, place...hope it's not raining etc.

Here is a big one: teams are always trying to capture that dollar, so the hustle to get sponsors doesn't end...So you cannot get the kit printed until you are fully satisfied...and size matters. Usually, the biggest $$ provided is bigger than a smaller dollar provider...then of course you need to get the kits to the riders...

Until this season, I just assumed you get the bike and take a picture. LOL....

 

I respect the hustle.

 

I also wish we could get more outside the sport sponsor money rolling in for these guys. They definetly desrve it. ESO just needs to figure out a way to make it more spectator friendly I suppose...but damn, Ford was a sponsor in Freecaster days...what happened...

 

Togger250 wrote:
I second the outside sponsors support. Go back 15-20 years plus and there were quite a few teams sponsored by car brands. GT/Chevrolet, Giant/Toyota, Trek/VW, Mondraker/Suburu...

I second the outside sponsors support. Go back 15-20 years plus and there were quite a few teams sponsored by car brands. GT/Chevrolet, Giant/Toyota, Trek/VW, Mondraker/Suburu, Kona/Ford Focus to name a few. Plus the MTB World Cup series being sponsored by Nissan and Mercedes in the past as well. Kinda surprised it isn't kinda still a thing, as teams and riders all need wheels to move around.

Maybe motor brands don't see the value of sponsoring a sport that's unfamiliar to a lot of people and athletes they've never heard of.....something that's quite apparent this side of the pond. Unless you're clad in lycra riding a bike with drop bars and take performance enhancing drugs, the UK media and British Cycling aren't interested. But that's a rant for another thread probably...

I am not too familiar with the sponsorship timelines... but I did see where Trek/VW ended in 08... right around the time of the market/auto industry crash.  I am assuming the others were around that timeline. Once they got out of that situation.. they found other ways of marketing?  Just a guess? 

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Something I learned this year was how difficult the timing is - a few things I never considered. Not all of a rider's sponsors line up...

Something I learned this year was how difficult the timing is - a few things I never considered.

Not all of a rider's sponsors line up to end on the same date. Can't takea pic in your new TL kit if Alpine was doing your old and you are still under contract for them...so multiply that my all the support a team has for the existing and new riders.

Then, once all that is finally squared, the logistics of an announcement have to match up...got to plan the photo, video, place...hope it's not raining etc.

Here is a big one: teams are always trying to capture that dollar, so the hustle to get sponsors doesn't end...So you cannot get the kit printed until you are fully satisfied...and size matters. Usually, the biggest $$ provided is bigger than a smaller dollar provider...then of course you need to get the kits to the riders...

Until this season, I just assumed you get the bike and take a picture. LOL....

 

I respect the hustle.

 

I also wish we could get more outside the sport sponsor money rolling in for these guys. They definetly desrve it. ESO just needs to figure out a way to make it more spectator friendly I suppose...but damn, Ford was a sponsor in Freecaster days...what happened...

 

Togger250 wrote:
I second the outside sponsors support. Go back 15-20 years plus and there were quite a few teams sponsored by car brands. GT/Chevrolet, Giant/Toyota, Trek/VW, Mondraker/Suburu...

I second the outside sponsors support. Go back 15-20 years plus and there were quite a few teams sponsored by car brands. GT/Chevrolet, Giant/Toyota, Trek/VW, Mondraker/Suburu, Kona/Ford Focus to name a few. Plus the MTB World Cup series being sponsored by Nissan and Mercedes in the past as well. Kinda surprised it isn't kinda still a thing, as teams and riders all need wheels to move around.

Maybe motor brands don't see the value of sponsoring a sport that's unfamiliar to a lot of people and athletes they've never heard of.....something that's quite apparent this side of the pond. Unless you're clad in lycra riding a bike with drop bars and take performance enhancing drugs, the UK media and British Cycling aren't interested. But that's a rant for another thread probably...

 

Ford sponsors the Rockrider team.

Not long ago Reece Wilson was sponsored by Volvo, and Emily Batty by Porsche. And Mathieu Van der Poel is a Lamborghini ambassador.

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