I live in Vancouver BC and have never even ridden in CA, outside of Palm Springs on a vacation, and I know exactly where that trail...More
I live in Vancouver BC and have never even ridden in CA, outside of Palm Springs on a vacation, and I know exactly where that trail is and what it looks like from all the videos/testing shot on it over the years. Doesn't really seem like a secret? All the Trinidad stuff made me seek it out and find it a few years ago when it was on Trailforks.
Yeah, I kinda LOL'd at the video description calling it a secret DH trail when there's literally so many team videos of it. Fun Fact, I got a picture with Loic Bruni there about 5 years ago.
Mentioning both the real and false trail names verbatim together in this thread raises the page’s SEO and makes the page more findable for those searching either name. It also negates the purpose of the false trail name.
Just because the location is an open secret doesn’t mean it should be even more obvious. If you really want to ride the trail, you can find it, but putting in effort to discover it forces you to understand the level of obfuscation required to keep a trail like this from getting dozed.
At the dawn of Trailforks people were putting all kinds of secrets on the map. Many got taken off quickly, but the first year or so was insanely indescreet.
Let the record show no one can ever tell @chriskief anything again.
Just a straight up unreliable narc of a human.
TF. He deleted the post, and as mentioned prodigiously, it is only the second-worst secret behind what team "Freckles" Norton is riding for now. No need to shit all over a guy.
Am I the only one who thinks waiting so long to announce this stuff has actually kind of taken the excitement out of it? I was...More
Am I the only one who thinks waiting so long to announce this stuff has actually kind of taken the excitement out of it? I was pretty pumped after the new years but the excitement has kind of wore off now.
Interesting point from Neko on the Worldwide cyclery podcast. Angel had this year of his contract paid out by Uno which is why Neko / Frameworks could afford him this year.
It's almost February. WTH are teams still playing footsie with "secret" new signings?
Something I learned this year was how difficult the timing is - a few things I never considered.
Not all of a rider's sponsors line up to end on the same date. Can't takea pic in your new TL kit if Alpine was doing your old and you are still under contract for them...so multiply that my all the support a team has for the existing and new riders.
Then, once all that is finally squared, the logistics of an announcement have to match up...got to plan the photo, video, place...hope it's not raining etc.
Here is a big one: teams are always trying to capture that dollar, so the hustle to get sponsors doesn't end...So you cannot get the kit printed until you are fully satisfied...and size matters. Usually, the biggest $$ provided is bigger than a smaller dollar provider...then of course you need to get the kits to the riders...
Until this season, I just assumed you get the bike and take a picture. LOL....
I respect the hustle.
I also wish we could get more outside the sport sponsor money rolling in for these guys. They definetly desrve it. ESO just needs to figure out a way to make it more spectator friendly I suppose...but damn, Ford was a sponsor in Freecaster days...what happened...
Interesting point from Neko on the Worldwide cyclery podcast. Angel had this year of his contract paid out by Uno which is why Neko / Frameworks...More
Interesting point from Neko on the Worldwide cyclery podcast. Angel had this year of his contract paid out by Uno which is why Neko / Frameworks could afford him this year.
I wonder if Angel is on a 1 year deal.
Based on the Vital MTB interview I watched last night, sounds like Angel is on a 1 year deal
and to me the most surprising thing Neko said was a 400k USD budget.
Just so he doesn't feel so bad, its a really poorly kept secret at this point It used to be on trail forks like 5 years ago...More
Just so he doesn't feel so bad, its a really poorly kept secret at this point It used to be on trail forks like 5 years ago, I have not checked to see if it is still there. Just be nice to our trail
Hard to keep things a secret when you have huge factory rigs/ezups set up next to the trail and other crews rolling 15 deep and throwing it on you tube.
Based on the Vital MTB interview I watched last night, sounds like Angel is on a 1 year deal
and to me the most surprising thing...More
Based on the Vital MTB interview I watched last night, sounds like Angel is on a 1 year deal
and to me the most surprising thing Neko said was a 400k USD budget.
I imagine that the $400k goes pretty quick when you consider all the flights, hotels, food, transportation rentals, entry fees, etc. Then there are salaries paid to a lot more than just the riders, there's the mechanics and manager too.
Back in 2022 it was $12,000 for team entry, but I'm not sure if that includes costs for each event or not.
If I had to guess, they probably spend somewhere close to $8k-$10k per event, not including salaries.
Yeah, I kinda LOL'd at the video description calling it a secret DH trail when there's literally so many team videos of it. Fun Fact, I got a picture with Loic Bruni there about 5 years ago.
Mentioning both the real and false trail names verbatim together in this thread raises the page’s SEO and makes the page more findable for those searching either name. It also negates the purpose of the false trail name.
Just because the location is an open secret doesn’t mean it should be even more obvious. If you really want to ride the trail, you can find it, but putting in effort to discover it forces you to understand the level of obfuscation required to keep a trail like this from getting dozed.
At the dawn of Trailforks people were putting all kinds of secrets on the map. Many got taken off quickly, but the first year or so was insanely indescreet.
Anyways- this is team rumors not trail rumors!
TF. He deleted the post, and as mentioned prodigiously, it is only the second-worst secret behind what team "Freckles" Norton is riding for now. No need to shit all over a guy.
For the record, I would fully get behind a trail rumors thread. No locations, just pictures of the filthiest illegal trails out there
Yes^. Brb need to make a new account name
What’s everyone think? Forbidden?
Yeah. SRAM brakes & Deity cockpit are pretty clear, Forbidden run both.
Fizik saddles too…
Bulldog can't fool me. ENHANCE![Screenshot 20240122-165246~2](https://p.vitalmtb.com/styles/s1200/s3/photos/inline/basic/Screenshot_20240122-165246~2.png?VersionId=miO5fVGA_UubrHWJjTsDgcV2l8OdXNVi&itok=iNPWsYyU)
Wait til Dak signs for Gwin’s new Yeti team. 🤣🤣🤣
#screwfrecklegate
Going off the feedback stand and the Sweet Protection helmets on the wall, he’s in the Wide Open office but they don’t distribute a bike brand.
Don't worry. He was using NordVPN so his data is safe.
What’s the bike in the mirror?
Your right, 3sixty sports distribute forbidden in nz, but wide open distribute deity
Oli Davis Spotted on a pretty trick looking Commencal over the weekend.
Yeah, but someone will always ruin it. The age we live in, there will always be “that guy”.
It's almost February. WTH are teams still playing footsie with "secret" new signings?
Gee Atherton just posted a story at a Saudi investment fund meeting, pretty sad if that is where they will be getting money fromhttps://www.instagram.com/stories/gee_atherton/3286042004994581973?igsh=MXI2eWd1Y210cnRjeQ==
Interesting point from Neko on the Worldwide cyclery podcast. Angel had this year of his contract paid out by Uno which is why Neko / Frameworks could afford him this year.
I wonder if Angel is on a 1 year deal.
Based off the Vital MTB podcast, he is.
Something I learned this year was how difficult the timing is - a few things I never considered.
Not all of a rider's sponsors line up to end on the same date. Can't takea pic in your new TL kit if Alpine was doing your old and you are still under contract for them...so multiply that my all the support a team has for the existing and new riders.
Then, once all that is finally squared, the logistics of an announcement have to match up...got to plan the photo, video, place...hope it's not raining etc.
Here is a big one: teams are always trying to capture that dollar, so the hustle to get sponsors doesn't end...So you cannot get the kit printed until you are fully satisfied...and size matters. Usually, the biggest $$ provided is bigger than a smaller dollar provider...then of course you need to get the kits to the riders...
Until this season, I just assumed you get the bike and take a picture. LOL....
I respect the hustle.
I also wish we could get more outside the sport sponsor money rolling in for these guys. They definetly desrve it. ESO just needs to figure out a way to make it more spectator friendly I suppose...but damn, Ford was a sponsor in Freecaster days...what happened...
Tom Wilson (formally riding enduro for Orange) is now on a Deviate.
Pretty sure that is the Fully Loop
Based on the Vital MTB interview I watched last night, sounds like Angel is on a 1 year deal
and to me the most surprising thing Neko said was a 400k USD budget.
Hard to keep things a secret when you have huge factory rigs/ezups set up next to the trail and other crews rolling 15 deep and throwing it on you tube.
Hopefully this means Kyle Strait has found a frame sponsor after being collateral damage due to the CRC wiggle debacle.
I imagine that the $400k goes pretty quick when you consider all the flights, hotels, food, transportation rentals, entry fees, etc. Then there are salaries paid to a lot more than just the riders, there's the mechanics and manager too.
Back in 2022 it was $12,000 for team entry, but I'm not sure if that includes costs for each event or not.
If I had to guess, they probably spend somewhere close to $8k-$10k per event, not including salaries.
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