Move From Pinkbike

pmz
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7/16/2021 2:27pm
Oops, dunno how I didn't see that. Thanks
7/16/2021 7:16pm
Other than his occasional extremely transparent racist posts I couldn’t care about waki. Who cares if someone posts a lot you don’t have to read their comments. But that dude said obscene shit time to time.

Pinkbike never did a good enough job of moderating comments. Absolutely deserved to be called out during the Floyd protests. Multiple times I’d reach out to mods about blatantly racist posts (often including the n-word) and never was anyone banned and most the time the post wasn’t even removed.

I couldn’t really care if someone calls me a social justice snowflake. The only people I hate in this world are the haters. Holding all of humanity back one shit(road)stain at a time.
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7/16/2021 8:26pm
Pls no dashboard! Let dead threads die. I don’t need to watch two dudes argue on some post I commented on 2 years ago. And if it’s there and lit up it’s pretty damn hard for me not to click on it.

Forum is a good forum. Comment section works just fine 60 some deep discussing why a particular bike wasn’t spec’ed as a mullet.

Only suggestion to the new guys is check out the gear club. Anything I don’t use I give to a friend and all of it is pretty sweet.
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Primoz
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7/17/2021 12:28am
Regarding the dashboard, with a proper dashboard or a notification centre, there is always the option of unsubscribing from a thread if you don't want to see the two dudes arguing. And I do understand your point.
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Verderers
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7/17/2021 2:55am Edited Date/Time 7/17/2021 2:57am
For me, Pinkbike is dead. Vital is better in all but 2 ways. 1: The buy and sell, I don't know if their going to fix it, but it needs to be more organized, more filtered and not just by price, but by location, size, wheel size and travel. Not just another forum. 2: Like everyone else is saying a dashboard.
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veefour
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7/17/2021 2:59am
Primoz wrote:
There is. [img]https://i.imgur.com/dwXQhYp.png[/img] Since we're on the topic of possible improvements anyway, if possible, I think it'd be nice to be able to have multiple quotes...
There is.



Since we're on the topic of possible improvements anyway, if possible, I think it'd be nice to be able to have multiple quotes in a single post to avoid double/triple quoting. And a PM dashboard. And as mentioned, a single e-mail notification for the first new post witht he next e-mail delivered after you have checked the thread. I had 60 forum notification e-mails when I came from work today Smile
I had to disable email alerts as my inbox was inundated. Changing times.
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Nexus_mkIV
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7/17/2021 6:14am
Also, maybe just fix the up/down vote anyway. Doesn't change much, but that's +3 votes
blackthorne
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7/17/2021 7:28am
Another refugee here from PB. First impressions: the commenting UX is the single biggest thing holding this site back. It’s just not as easy to comment and everything is hidden behind threads and quotes, meaning less candid group conversation around specific early comments. Secondly they take up too much space and could use a visual design update. Hopefully the vital team can leverage the current situation to its advantage but it has to act fast. Only a matter of time before pb user shrug it off and continue consuming their content.
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91001
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7/17/2021 7:37am
Nexus_mkIV wrote:
Also, maybe just fix the up/down vote anyway. Doesn't change much, but that's +3 votes [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/07/17/11166/s1200_Screenshot_vitalUpDownVote.jpg[/img]
Also, maybe just fix the up/down vote anyway. Doesn't change much, but that's +3 votes
Apparently I’m just a huge Sponsel fan.

Seriously though, I didn’t intend to do that. I remember clicking once and nothing happening. Clicked a second time and received a “you cannot vote more than once” dialog, and yet it seems like it logged it anyway.
Nexus_mkIV
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7/17/2021 7:49am Edited Date/Time 7/17/2021 8:40am
91001 wrote:
Apparently I’m just a huge Sponsel fan. Seriously though, I didn’t intend to do that. I remember clicking once and nothing happening. Clicked a second time...
Apparently I’m just a huge Sponsel fan.

Seriously though, I didn’t intend to do that. I remember clicking once and nothing happening. Clicked a second time and received a “you cannot vote more than once” dialog, and yet it seems like it logged it anyway.
I've done it to. Just a weird "feature" of vital I guess. Not calling anyone out for intentionally doing it. He has a bot farm for that. We can only ask for benevolence from our cold robotic overlords take over.
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chasejj
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7/17/2021 9:19am
PB's insufferable wokeness killed them. Goddamn they were annoying . I migrated over here to Vital as my only MTB source and it has been awesome. Just don't fall into that trap Vital.
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chasejj
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7/17/2021 9:22am
Other than his occasional extremely transparent racist posts I couldn’t care about waki. Who cares if someone posts a lot you don’t have to read their...
Other than his occasional extremely transparent racist posts I couldn’t care about waki. Who cares if someone posts a lot you don’t have to read their comments. But that dude said obscene shit time to time.

Pinkbike never did a good enough job of moderating comments. Absolutely deserved to be called out during the Floyd protests. Multiple times I’d reach out to mods about blatantly racist posts (often including the n-word) and never was anyone banned and most the time the post wasn’t even removed.

I couldn’t really care if someone calls me a social justice snowflake. The only people I hate in this world are the haters. Holding all of humanity back one shit(road)stain at a time.
Please just go away. You are like a California Locust who moves to Idaho and brings you're politics that created the toxic cesspool with you.
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chasejj
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7/17/2021 9:24am
I miss me some Waki , even though we would clash at times, he made for some compelling convo.
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p-m-z
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7/17/2021 9:40am Edited Date/Time 7/17/2021 12:29pm
So I posted a few things on Vital on my tablet and then later that day signed into Vital on my laptop, but I couldn't see my activity. Is this a bug, or is it just me? I was gonna make a new thread to ask this question but when I clicked submit, there ws a message saying, "No such file or directory @ rb_sysopen - /var/www/vitalmtb/log/rescue.log"
7/17/2021 3:04pm
Other than his occasional extremely transparent racist posts I couldn’t care about waki. Who cares if someone posts a lot you don’t have to read their...
Other than his occasional extremely transparent racist posts I couldn’t care about waki. Who cares if someone posts a lot you don’t have to read their comments. But that dude said obscene shit time to time.

Pinkbike never did a good enough job of moderating comments. Absolutely deserved to be called out during the Floyd protests. Multiple times I’d reach out to mods about blatantly racist posts (often including the n-word) and never was anyone banned and most the time the post wasn’t even removed.

I couldn’t really care if someone calls me a social justice snowflake. The only people I hate in this world are the haters. Holding all of humanity back one shit(road)stain at a time.
chasejj wrote:
Please just go away. You are like a California Locust who moves to Idaho and brings you're politics that created the toxic cesspool with you.
Actually born in Kentucky and raised in Pennsylvana by conservative Christians. Luckily the brand of Christianity that teaches love and acceptance.
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mtbman99
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7/17/2021 3:17pm
Had an account here for a few years didn't post much but always enjoyed the content.
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chasejj
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7/17/2021 3:40pm
Other than his occasional extremely transparent racist posts I couldn’t care about waki. Who cares if someone posts a lot you don’t have to read their...
Other than his occasional extremely transparent racist posts I couldn’t care about waki. Who cares if someone posts a lot you don’t have to read their comments. But that dude said obscene shit time to time.

Pinkbike never did a good enough job of moderating comments. Absolutely deserved to be called out during the Floyd protests. Multiple times I’d reach out to mods about blatantly racist posts (often including the n-word) and never was anyone banned and most the time the post wasn’t even removed.

I couldn’t really care if someone calls me a social justice snowflake. The only people I hate in this world are the haters. Holding all of humanity back one shit(road)stain at a time.
chasejj wrote:
Please just go away. You are like a California Locust who moves to Idaho and brings you're politics that created the toxic cesspool with you.
Actually born in Kentucky and raised in Pennsylvana by conservative Christians. Luckily the brand of Christianity that teaches love and acceptance.
Reporting others posts due to your judgements on their opinions is Karen like behavior. Not apparently confined to one political perspective which you admit. Sad. Freedom is not sad, but it can be uncomfortable at times. I prefer freedom.
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7/17/2021 3:49pm
chasejj wrote:
I miss me some Waki , even though we would clash at times, he made for some compelling convo.
No, no no!!!! If some person (gender-neutral) is not in lock step with your thoughts and delusions...they must be CANCELED!!!!
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vonBock
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7/17/2021 4:36pm
Yo, long time bike checks and front page lurker. Now a new member seeking refuge from possible Pinkbike implosion...
7/17/2021 6:25pm
chasejj wrote:
Please just go away. You are like a California Locust who moves to Idaho and brings you're politics that created the toxic cesspool with you.
Actually born in Kentucky and raised in Pennsylvana by conservative Christians. Luckily the brand of Christianity that teaches love and acceptance.
chasejj wrote:
Reporting others posts due to your judgements on their opinions is Karen like behavior. Not apparently confined to one political perspective which you admit. Sad. Freedom...
Reporting others posts due to your judgements on their opinions is Karen like behavior. Not apparently confined to one political perspective which you admit. Sad. Freedom is not sad, but it can be uncomfortable at times. I prefer freedom.
So are racist opinions justifiable because their opinions? Sorry bud but I don’t think we need to create a safe space for racists to be assholes. Racists posts using the n-word is not ok on any form of media. No normal person wants to read that. And unfortunately quite a lot of people are genuinely hurt by it. Freedom of speech doesn’t mean the public has to allow you to broadcast your opinions or that their aren’t consequences to what you choose to say.

Just something to think about. Gonna drop it here.
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7/17/2021 6:27pm
Time to put on your big boy pants bulletbass, you are in the US, this means you have a freedom OF speech, not a freedom FROM speech. I guess you never watch any comedians (black or white). Richard Pryor and Chapelle must send you way, I mean WAY over the edge....best of luck sport, you are going to have a hard life.
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mtb246
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7/17/2021 6:48pm
Goocha05 wrote:
Welcome to all the people who have migrated from Pinkbike since they are now a part of Outside
Been a member here for a while. Liked the vibe and hope new members don't ruin it. I see a lot of new members stating they lurked and only now joining because PB got acquired. What does that say about their credibility and value offering?

Moderators hope you are ready for the work.

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Bob Chicken
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7/17/2021 7:10pm
Agree, keep the politics and American outrage at one another over on Pinkbike comments.

I like Vital because it doesn't have all that bullshit. Hopefully it stays that way.
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Primoz
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7/18/2021 1:28am Edited Date/Time 7/18/2021 1:35am
Time to put on your big boy pants bulletbass, you are in the US, this means you have a freedom OF speech, not a freedom FROM...
Time to put on your big boy pants bulletbass, you are in the US, this means you have a freedom OF speech, not a freedom FROM speech. I guess you never watch any comedians (black or white). Richard Pryor and Chapelle must send you way, I mean WAY over the edge....best of luck sport, you are going to have a hard life.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech#Limitations

Freedom of speech gives me the right to say 'our government is a bunch of incompetent bickering waste of moneys', because they have little support from the public (they tried to pass a water 'preservation' law that was rejected by almost 90 % of the voters on the referendum) and they can't or shouldn't censor me (in an open society). It would be censored in more oppresive regimes. But evein in open regimes you still have to be careful about the claims, as they also need to be true and/or provable.

What freedom of speech does not give as a right is saying 'the X colored people suck because they look different to me'.

Freedom of speech gives you the right to say 'anything'. But some anythings are covered by laws that are above freedom of speech, so are exempt from it.
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Atkisa
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7/18/2021 2:35am Edited Date/Time 7/18/2021 2:36am
Time to put on your big boy pants bulletbass, you are in the US, this means you have a freedom OF speech, not a freedom FROM...
Time to put on your big boy pants bulletbass, you are in the US, this means you have a freedom OF speech, not a freedom FROM speech. I guess you never watch any comedians (black or white). Richard Pryor and Chapelle must send you way, I mean WAY over the edge....best of luck sport, you are going to have a hard life.
Claims on a culture of freedom fall apart once you start defending the right to say and do things that impinge the freedom of others.

Your trying to draw an equivalence between your right to say what you like or be occasionally amused by someone who is a racist, and the rights of people to live without racist, sexual or other persecution.

They aren't even nearly equivalent and it's going to be a long life for you if you soil yourself every time someone calls you out for it.

Waki wasn't even funny either, what a weird hill to die on.
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7/18/2021 4:32am
Time to put on your big boy pants bulletbass, you are in the US, this means you have a freedom OF speech, not a freedom FROM...
Time to put on your big boy pants bulletbass, you are in the US, this means you have a freedom OF speech, not a freedom FROM speech. I guess you never watch any comedians (black or white). Richard Pryor and Chapelle must send you way, I mean WAY over the edge....best of luck sport, you are going to have a hard life.
Atkisa wrote:
Claims on a culture of freedom fall apart once you start defending the right to say and do things that impinge the freedom of others. Your...
Claims on a culture of freedom fall apart once you start defending the right to say and do things that impinge the freedom of others.

Your trying to draw an equivalence between your right to say what you like or be occasionally amused by someone who is a racist, and the rights of people to live without racist, sexual or other persecution.

They aren't even nearly equivalent and it's going to be a long life for you if you soil yourself every time someone calls you out for it.

Waki wasn't even funny either, what a weird hill to die on.
See, what you are missing (and seem to miss on purpose as most weak humans do - as pertaining to the reference of Prior and others)....well, before I can be racist/sexist/homo-phobe...well, I have to give a shit. Guess what, I don't give a shit. Then again, neither does 99.5+ % of the population. We are too busy being well-rounded productive citizens to give a shit.

Any other creature on Earth, well, would not survive as a "victim". They would simply be eaten. Now, back to our regular scheduled MTN biking...I have a KOM I need to go get (seriously).
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Atkisa
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7/18/2021 7:16am
Time to put on your big boy pants bulletbass, you are in the US, this means you have a freedom OF speech, not a freedom FROM...
Time to put on your big boy pants bulletbass, you are in the US, this means you have a freedom OF speech, not a freedom FROM speech. I guess you never watch any comedians (black or white). Richard Pryor and Chapelle must send you way, I mean WAY over the edge....best of luck sport, you are going to have a hard life.
Atkisa wrote:
Claims on a culture of freedom fall apart once you start defending the right to say and do things that impinge the freedom of others. Your...
Claims on a culture of freedom fall apart once you start defending the right to say and do things that impinge the freedom of others.

Your trying to draw an equivalence between your right to say what you like or be occasionally amused by someone who is a racist, and the rights of people to live without racist, sexual or other persecution.

They aren't even nearly equivalent and it's going to be a long life for you if you soil yourself every time someone calls you out for it.

Waki wasn't even funny either, what a weird hill to die on.
See, what you are missing (and seem to miss on purpose as most weak humans do - as pertaining to the reference of Prior and others)....well...
See, what you are missing (and seem to miss on purpose as most weak humans do - as pertaining to the reference of Prior and others)....well, before I can be racist/sexist/homo-phobe...well, I have to give a shit. Guess what, I don't give a shit. Then again, neither does 99.5+ % of the population. We are too busy being well-rounded productive citizens to give a shit.

Any other creature on Earth, well, would not survive as a "victim". They would simply be eaten. Now, back to our regular scheduled MTN biking...I have a KOM I need to go get (seriously).
Hahahha this is the reaction of a well rounded person is it? What a giant baby
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johnski
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7/18/2021 7:47am
At first, I was like “Wow, they quoted me in a pinkbike article!” Then I was like, ”Wow, they quoted me in THIS pinkbike article.” 🤦🏻‍♂️
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chasejj
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7/18/2021 8:26am
Atkisa wrote:
Hahahha this is the reaction of a well rounded person is it? What a giant baby
The thing I truly despised about PB (may it not RIP, but die the horrible death it deserves) is they would purposely title and push out articles designed to spark the very comments they wanted to censor and inflame. It was clear they did this to drive a political agenda within their staff and at the same time, it undoubtedly drove eyes to the site as the most inflammatory stories, often having nothing to do with subjects 99% of the readership gave a shit about would get a record numbers of comments and thus views (no doubt exploited to advertisers for profit) .
Media is the enemy.
Vital so far has not done that which is why I will still view this site. They are to be commended for this and rewarded as long as they don't go to the dark side.
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