2023 TEAM RUMORS

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Rob Warner off Vitus ! Could join Pilgrim…

And no longer a Shimano rep going by the same podcast comment. 

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 Mille with some rare proper team rumors riddles 

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Sam Hill racing  DH on the new Nukeproof E-DH bike. He will an ambassador for KTM EMX. Saw him i

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jakew82 wrote:
Mark Scott's Strava from this morning.. 👀👀 Two very nice Santa Cruz builds with Hope / Ohlins spec.     

Mark Scott's Strava from this morning.. 👀👀 Two very nice Santa Cruz builds with Hope / Ohlins spec. 

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Pretty sure Mark has a free agent type deal with SC, so running all personal sponsors I believe.  If SC are going heavy in EDR as claimed, can only see them being on similar bits to the syndicate, but I could be wrong.

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Karabuka wrote:
 Mille with some rare proper team rumors riddles 

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 Mille with some rare proper team rumors riddles 

Continental Atherton, Nukeproof? Can't see her going to Trek with the roster they already have, but possible. 

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Rol wrote:

Sam Hill racing  DH on the new Nukeproof E-DH bike. He will an ambassador for KTM EMX. Saw him i

E-DH?? 

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jakew82 wrote:
Mark Scott's Strava from this morning.. 👀👀 Two very nice Santa Cruz builds with Hope / Ohlins spec.     

Mark Scott's Strava from this morning.. 👀👀 Two very nice Santa Cruz builds with Hope / Ohlins spec. 

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DNE87 wrote:
Pretty sure Mark has a free agent type deal with SC, so running all personal sponsors I believe.  If SC are going heavy in EDR as...

Pretty sure Mark has a free agent type deal with SC, so running all personal sponsors I believe.  If SC are going heavy in EDR as claimed, can only see them being on similar bits to the syndicate, but I could be wrong.

Yep, one of their "free agents"

https://www.santacruzbicycles.com/en-US/free-agents

I know it's been hinted at, but looks like Craig Evans is definitely off SC^

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jakew82 wrote:
Mark Scott's Strava from this morning.. 👀👀 Two very nice Santa Cruz builds with Hope / Ohlins spec.     

Mark Scott's Strava from this morning.. 👀👀 Two very nice Santa Cruz builds with Hope / Ohlins spec. 

Screenshot 20230112-193319

 Screenshot 20230112-193239.png?VersionId=ule1orAWNb1bC I6H JEGxa2hR

 

DNE87 wrote:
Pretty sure Mark has a free agent type deal with SC, so running all personal sponsors I believe.  If SC are going heavy in EDR as...

Pretty sure Mark has a free agent type deal with SC, so running all personal sponsors I believe.  If SC are going heavy in EDR as claimed, can only see them being on similar bits to the syndicate, but I could be wrong.

JimmyK wrote:

Yep, one of their "free agents"

https://www.santacruzbicycles.com/en-US/free-agents

I know it's been hinted at, but looks like Craig Evans is definitely off SC^

He's on Airdrop, been seen riding them recently. His latest post he's on their Slacker.

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Karabuka wrote:
 Mille with some rare proper team rumors riddles 

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 Mille with some rare proper team rumors riddles 

DNE87 wrote:

Continental Atherton, Nukeproof? Can't see her going to Trek with the roster they already have, but possible. 

With that roster of sponsors, it'd have to be a new team, or her own program. Assuming RockShox Trek racing, and Trek Factory aren't changing a bunch of their sponsors/kit

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Hey, thought I’d clear up the fair question you asked here! I’m not into racing enduro anymore or heavily focusing on being competitive and haven’t been...

Hey, thought I’d clear up the fair question you asked here! I’m not into racing enduro anymore or heavily focusing on being competitive and haven’t been for a couple years now. I’ve been racing since I was 11 years old and I got tired of it. I’m enjoying competing now and then In different events but focusing on travelling to cool locations and filming & riding with new people and friends and sharing my experiences and working alongside my sponsors. Change has been good and I’ve found my feet doing this. Cheers

 

Lew 

Just wanted to drop in and say that I think that you're doing it right. Doing what you love is always going to be the right choice! Good on you mate, I mean it. Keep it up!

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Karabuka wrote:
 Mille with some rare proper team rumors riddles 

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 Mille with some rare proper team rumors riddles 

DNE87 wrote:

Continental Atherton, Nukeproof? Can't see her going to Trek with the roster they already have, but possible. 

Edthorne wrote:
With that roster of sponsors, it'd have to be a new team, or her own program. Assuming RockShox Trek racing, and Trek Factory aren't changing a...

With that roster of sponsors, it'd have to be a new team, or her own program. Assuming RockShox Trek racing, and Trek Factory aren't changing a bunch of their sponsors/kit

One of the sponsors from the jersey, not all of them.

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1/12/2023 1:06pm
Primoz wrote:

One of the sponsors from the jersey, not all of them.

Yeeeees!!!!!
She's back with Starmotor!!!!!
*fist pump*

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1/12/2023 1:17pm
Karabuka wrote:
 Mille with some rare proper team rumors riddles 

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 Mille with some rare proper team rumors riddles 

My guess would be that the commencal/100% team drops the 100%, keeps commencal and has a new title sponsor. Conti/commencal would make sense. 
 

Estaque, frix frix, and Mille. Maybe one other rider. Basically the same team as last year with a new title/co-title sponsor. Can’t see estaque and frixalton not being on commencal frames, and mille was with estaque training when she got hurt recently. Makes the most sense to me. 

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DNE87 wrote:

Continental Atherton, Nukeproof? Can't see her going to Trek with the roster they already have, but possible. 

Edthorne wrote:
With that roster of sponsors, it'd have to be a new team, or her own program. Assuming RockShox Trek racing, and Trek Factory aren't changing a...

With that roster of sponsors, it'd have to be a new team, or her own program. Assuming RockShox Trek racing, and Trek Factory aren't changing a bunch of their sponsors/kit

Primoz wrote:

One of the sponsors from the jersey, not all of them.

Guess it pays to read the whole thing eh 

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Sven Garcia an acronym of Craig evans, along with one of his latest posts and someone else mentioning seeing him on a prototype slacker, basically confirms Craig on airdrop

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1/12/2023 1:51pm Edited Date/Time 1/12/2023 1:52pm

long time lurker and reader of this my favourite thread!! Just watched Bernards latest LSD and he may or may not Wink have confirmed Jack Moir is on YT with a throw away comment about Jack being in Guildford in the UK which happens to have the UK's YT showroom

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Rob Roskop on the PB podcast. Haven't listened yet but should be interesting!

For those who don’t want to listen.

 

looks like pon had no interest in renewing his contract which likely had some type of royalty clause.  He also seemed to be interested in pursuing innovations while pon is happy to milk the existing formula for all it’s worth (prob not a bad decision on their behalf tbh)

 

rob wouldn’t divulge details but it appears he is working on some new Emtb tech designed to be 40ish pounds but still be full power for 5-6 hrs.  Basically a full power e-bike somewhere i between the current lightweight and full size Emtb in weight.  Looks like possible collaboration with Unno but again rob was very shy to be detailed about anything.

 

seemed to think if all goes well we will be hearing about in a couple years.

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Karabuka wrote:
 Mille with some rare proper team rumors riddles 

Screenshot 20230112 211146 Instagram.jpg?VersionId=Ah4zgO

 Mille with some rare proper team rumors riddles 

My guess would be that the commencal/100% team drops the 100%, keeps commencal and has a new title sponsor. Conti/commencal would make sense.    Estaque, frix...

My guess would be that the commencal/100% team drops the 100%, keeps commencal and has a new title sponsor. Conti/commencal would make sense. 
 

Estaque, frix frix, and Mille. Maybe one other rider. Basically the same team as last year with a new title/co-title sponsor. Can’t see estaque and frixalton not being on commencal frames, and mille was with estaque training when she got hurt recently. Makes the most sense to me. 

My Guess too. Estaque and Frixtalon still on commencal, continental as co-title sponsor sounds good.

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Karabuka wrote:
 Mille with some rare proper team rumors riddles 

Screenshot 20230112 211146 Instagram.jpg?VersionId=Ah4zgO

 Mille with some rare proper team rumors riddles 

My guess would be that the commencal/100% team drops the 100%, keeps commencal and has a new title sponsor. Conti/commencal would make sense.    Estaque, frix...

My guess would be that the commencal/100% team drops the 100%, keeps commencal and has a new title sponsor. Conti/commencal would make sense. 
 

Estaque, frix frix, and Mille. Maybe one other rider. Basically the same team as last year with a new title/co-title sponsor. Can’t see estaque and frixalton not being on commencal frames, and mille was with estaque training when she got hurt recently. Makes the most sense to me. 

What if Lapierre is getting back into DH?

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Blenki, Frix and Estaque Lapierre team! the Video's they would put out would make me soil myself.

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On the Roskopp podcast...not exactly Team Rumours, but one could argue he's talking about starting up a new "Team" in the form of a company, so I'm going to go with it.

My interpretation was different from @bulletbass man

It was interesting that he compared his contract with Pon/Santa Cruz Bicycles to his contract with Santa Cruz Skateboards.  Of course he should get money for a skateboard with his graphic/name on it.  But who here even knew he was still attached to the bike brand?  And in what capacity?  You sold your company, my man!  You already got paid!  Seems weird you would expect more out of it, or be surprised that they were moving on.  Especially when he talked so much about "moving on to the next thing" himself.

It was also interesting how they spoke about rejecting his innovation.  I wish he had been able to give an example or two, because it's not a given that they were good ideas.  Maybe he was in there suggesting they innovate a new e-gravel bike or something?  We only got one side of that story.

As for his new company, I know he talked about 40 pound full power e-bikes, but it didn't sound like that was what he was going to develop.  It felt like two separate subjects that he was talking about.

Either way, I didn't come away from that podcast feeling all that sorry for the man.

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On the Roskopp podcast...not exactly Team Rumours, but one could argue he's talking about starting up a new "Team" in the form of a company, so...

On the Roskopp podcast...not exactly Team Rumours, but one could argue he's talking about starting up a new "Team" in the form of a company, so I'm going to go with it.

My interpretation was different from @bulletbass man

It was interesting that he compared his contract with Pon/Santa Cruz Bicycles to his contract with Santa Cruz Skateboards.  Of course he should get money for a skateboard with his graphic/name on it.  But who here even knew he was still attached to the bike brand?  And in what capacity?  You sold your company, my man!  You already got paid!  Seems weird you would expect more out of it, or be surprised that they were moving on.  Especially when he talked so much about "moving on to the next thing" himself.

It was also interesting how they spoke about rejecting his innovation.  I wish he had been able to give an example or two, because it's not a given that they were good ideas.  Maybe he was in there suggesting they innovate a new e-gravel bike or something?  We only got one side of that story.

As for his new company, I know he talked about 40 pound full power e-bikes, but it didn't sound like that was what he was going to develop.  It felt like two separate subjects that he was talking about.

Either way, I didn't come away from that podcast feeling all that sorry for the man.

Roskop will always be inseparable from Santa Cruz for a certain generation of fan.  Him no longer associated with them makes them way less cool.  I’d rather a small portion of my money go to rob than all of it go to some ultra wealthy European family who’s sitting on money from colonizing the world.

my first really nice bike was a Santa Cruz.  I saved up a lot of money (especially for me at the time) to get it basically cause I was a syndicate fanboy.

id rather get a Cannondale these days.  Bikes are cooler and they got a lot of riders from rat to max that I want to follow.  Sure the syndicate is more talented than ever but i literally cannot be bothered to watch the content they are putting out.  Maybe robs value for the company is missed more than you realize and it will simply take a few product cycles for pons lack of innovation and vision to catch up with them.  They got a lot of market share to lose these days.


 

 

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Roskop will always be inseparable from Santa Cruz for a certain generation of fan.  Him no longer associated with them makes them way less cool.  I’d...

Roskop will always be inseparable from Santa Cruz for a certain generation of fan.  Him no longer associated with them makes them way less cool.  I’d rather a small portion of my money go to rob than all of it go to some ultra wealthy European family who’s sitting on money from colonizing the world.

my first really nice bike was a Santa Cruz.  I saved up a lot of money (especially for me at the time) to get it basically cause I was a syndicate fanboy.

id rather get a Cannondale these days.  Bikes are cooler and they got a lot of riders from rat to max that I want to follow.  Sure the syndicate is more talented than ever but i literally cannot be bothered to watch the content they are putting out.  Maybe robs value for the company is missed more than you realize and it will simply take a few product cycles for pons lack of innovation and vision to catch up with them.  They got a lot of market share to lose these days.


 

 

So true.

a bit like when max commencal left Sunn. They lost all their coolness. Which has mow nicely been reborn with Commencal.

100% agree with the syndicate content. Cringe worthy.I Love the riders, they are awesome and super talented,  but these videos are not serving them well…  Crap job from the producing company.

 

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1/12/2023 3:44pm
Karabuka wrote:
 Mille with some rare proper team rumors riddles 

Screenshot 20230112 211146 Instagram.jpg?VersionId=Ah4zgO

 Mille with some rare proper team rumors riddles 

My guess would be that the commencal/100% team drops the 100%, keeps commencal and has a new title sponsor. Conti/commencal would make sense.    Estaque, frix...

My guess would be that the commencal/100% team drops the 100%, keeps commencal and has a new title sponsor. Conti/commencal would make sense. 
 

Estaque, frix frix, and Mille. Maybe one other rider. Basically the same team as last year with a new title/co-title sponsor. Can’t see estaque and frixalton not being on commencal frames, and mille was with estaque training when she got hurt recently. Makes the most sense to me. 

clem-mk wrote:

My Guess too. Estaque and Frixtalon still on commencal, continental as co-title sponsor sounds good.

My guess would be Trek. She’s part of the gang in North Wales that includes Kade Edwards. Charlie Harrison retired leaving a gap and it’s pretty rubbish that one of the world biggest bike brands doesn’t have a female rider on its roster (also looking at you Specialized)

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Iago Garay to Cannondale

Make sense to me w/ the Ella Conolly connection...

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DirkT wrote:
On the Roskopp podcast...not exactly Team Rumours, but one could argue he's talking about starting up a new "Team" in the form of a company, so...

On the Roskopp podcast...not exactly Team Rumours, but one could argue he's talking about starting up a new "Team" in the form of a company, so I'm going to go with it.

My interpretation was different from @bulletbass man

It was interesting that he compared his contract with Pon/Santa Cruz Bicycles to his contract with Santa Cruz Skateboards.  Of course he should get money for a skateboard with his graphic/name on it.  But who here even knew he was still attached to the bike brand?  And in what capacity?  You sold your company, my man!  You already got paid!  Seems weird you would expect more out of it, or be surprised that they were moving on.  Especially when he talked so much about "moving on to the next thing" himself.

It was also interesting how they spoke about rejecting his innovation.  I wish he had been able to give an example or two, because it's not a given that they were good ideas.  Maybe he was in there suggesting they innovate a new e-gravel bike or something?  We only got one side of that story.

As for his new company, I know he talked about 40 pound full power e-bikes, but it didn't sound like that was what he was going to develop.  It felt like two separate subjects that he was talking about.

Either way, I didn't come away from that podcast feeling all that sorry for the man.

As someone whose fairly small company just got acquired by a big one, I can tell you that previous owners and leadership who were involved from day 1 have a very difficult time suddenly reporting to someone, especially a corporation.  They lose control that they probably didn't even consciously consider that they had before they sold out.

The obvious response is "what'd you expect...", but with all the corporate promises they were likely fed beforehand there'll pretty likely be some bitterness there.  If it's been 6 years, it's pretty impressive that it took this long.

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Roskop will always be inseparable from Santa Cruz for a certain generation of fan.  Him no longer associated with them makes them way less cool.  I’d...

Roskop will always be inseparable from Santa Cruz for a certain generation of fan.  Him no longer associated with them makes them way less cool.  I’d rather a small portion of my money go to rob than all of it go to some ultra wealthy European family who’s sitting on money from colonizing the world.

my first really nice bike was a Santa Cruz.  I saved up a lot of money (especially for me at the time) to get it basically cause I was a syndicate fanboy.

id rather get a Cannondale these days.  Bikes are cooler and they got a lot of riders from rat to max that I want to follow.  Sure the syndicate is more talented than ever but i literally cannot be bothered to watch the content they are putting out.  Maybe robs value for the company is missed more than you realize and it will simply take a few product cycles for pons lack of innovation and vision to catch up with them.  They got a lot of market share to lose these days.


 

 

And with your Cannodale purchase you still get to give your money to that same ultra wealthy European family

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Roskop will always be inseparable from Santa Cruz for a certain generation of fan.  Him no longer associated with them makes them way less cool.  I’d...

Roskop will always be inseparable from Santa Cruz for a certain generation of fan.  Him no longer associated with them makes them way less cool.  I’d rather a small portion of my money go to rob than all of it go to some ultra wealthy European family who’s sitting on money from colonizing the world.

my first really nice bike was a Santa Cruz.  I saved up a lot of money (especially for me at the time) to get it basically cause I was a syndicate fanboy.

id rather get a Cannondale these days.  Bikes are cooler and they got a lot of riders from rat to max that I want to follow.  Sure the syndicate is more talented than ever but i literally cannot be bothered to watch the content they are putting out.  Maybe robs value for the company is missed more than you realize and it will simply take a few product cycles for pons lack of innovation and vision to catch up with them.  They got a lot of market share to lose these days.


 

 

puddings wrote:

And with your Cannodale purchase you still get to give your money to that same ultra wealthy European family

Very true.  But I was mostly commenting on my change in perception in the brands over the last 5 years.

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My guess would be that the commencal/100% team drops the 100%, keeps commencal and has a new title sponsor. Conti/commencal would make sense.    Estaque, frix...

My guess would be that the commencal/100% team drops the 100%, keeps commencal and has a new title sponsor. Conti/commencal would make sense. 
 

Estaque, frix frix, and Mille. Maybe one other rider. Basically the same team as last year with a new title/co-title sponsor. Can’t see estaque and frixalton not being on commencal frames, and mille was with estaque training when she got hurt recently. Makes the most sense to me. 

clem-mk wrote:

My Guess too. Estaque and Frixtalon still on commencal, continental as co-title sponsor sounds good.

My guess would be Trek. She’s part of the gang in North Wales that includes Kade Edwards. Charlie Harrison retired leaving a gap and it’s pretty...

My guess would be Trek. She’s part of the gang in North Wales that includes Kade Edwards. Charlie Harrison retired leaving a gap and it’s pretty rubbish that one of the world biggest bike brands doesn’t have a female rider on its roster (also looking at you Specialized)

Is Vali Holl not female?

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