2023 TEAM RUMORS

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3/25/2023 5:13pm Edited Date/Time 3/25/2023 5:15pm
Losifer wrote:
Guesses as to whether Neko will be able to race this season, or if he might find a replacement rider for Frameworks? I have really enjoyed...

Guesses as to whether Neko will be able to race this season, or if he might find a replacement rider for Frameworks?

I have really enjoyed watching his progress with the new bike, and have been a fan of his for quite a while. I’m hoping his hip fracture is clean and the surgery goes well!

Neko? I'd be surprised if we see him racing again this year with an injury like that. Such a bummer, especially after doing so well in NZ.

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3/25/2023 5:27pm
Losifer wrote:
Guesses as to whether Neko will be able to race this season, or if he might find a replacement rider for Frameworks? I have really enjoyed...

Guesses as to whether Neko will be able to race this season, or if he might find a replacement rider for Frameworks?

I have really enjoyed watching his progress with the new bike, and have been a fan of his for quite a while. I’m hoping his hip fracture is clean and the surgery goes well!

veefour wrote:
Neko? I'd be surprised if we see him racing again this year with an injury like that. Such a bummer, especially after doing so well in...

Neko? I'd be surprised if we see him racing again this year with an injury like that. Such a bummer, especially after doing so well in NZ.

D’oh! I was chatting on another thread about Dak! 
 

Yeah, I honestly don’t know if there’s a chance that he can recover by the North American races, but I’m sure hoping he can! That Crankworx run was so good.

I think Logan is officially on the team, and Asa (although he’s not a Junior until next year) so possibly they could recruit another rider.

3/27/2023 9:12am

I see no option, other than for Frameworks / Mullaly to grab anyone they can to ride the bike(s). Is there a fast, "semi self funded" rider out there, with an empty calendar? I wouldn't know, but it would be worth cheering on.

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3/27/2023 10:27am
Tim Horton wrote:
I see no option, other than for Frameworks / Mullaly to grab anyone they can to ride the bike(s). Is there a fast, "semi self funded"...

I see no option, other than for Frameworks / Mullaly to grab anyone they can to ride the bike(s). Is there a fast, "semi self funded" rider out there, with an empty calendar? I wouldn't know, but it would be worth cheering on.

Roger Vieira had a successful 2022 at WC as a privateer and is looking for new opportunities!

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3/27/2023 11:27am

Super bummer for Neko. Looked to be on a great pace this season. 
Regarding a replacement rider--as has been said, if there's a rider who doesn't need a salary they could probably put all of Neko's  travel expenses, flights, etc. into him/her. But, I HIGHLY HIGHLY doubt Neko has the cashflow to be paying another rider a salary. He's going to be using his team rider 'salary' to pay himself while he's on the mend.  

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3/27/2023 12:45pm
Super bummer for Neko. Looked to be on a great pace this season.  Regarding a replacement rider--as has been said, if there's a rider who doesn't...

Super bummer for Neko. Looked to be on a great pace this season. 
Regarding a replacement rider--as has been said, if there's a rider who doesn't need a salary they could probably put all of Neko's  travel expenses, flights, etc. into him/her. But, I HIGHLY HIGHLY doubt Neko has the cashflow to be paying another rider a salary. He's going to be using his team rider 'salary' to pay himself while he's on the mend.  

Pretty sure neko said in one of the videos he was forgoing a salary when he started frameworks and only asked sponsors cover the costs of his team.  Basically said doing well for himself since he was a teen and living with his parents while his travel expenses were paid for early in his career he was in a position to do so to pursue his dreams rather than focusing on the $$$.

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3/31/2023 7:50am

Noga out of the Derby round w/ head injury. Sucks but I'm really glad teams/riders are being careful... 

 

 

3/31/2023 8:49am Edited Date/Time 3/31/2023 8:51am
Tim Horton wrote:
I see no option, other than for Frameworks / Mullaly to grab anyone they can to ride the bike(s). Is there a fast, "semi self funded"...

I see no option, other than for Frameworks / Mullaly to grab anyone they can to ride the bike(s). Is there a fast, "semi self funded" rider out there, with an empty calendar? I wouldn't know, but it would be worth cheering on.

Roger Vieira had a successful 2022 at WC as a privateer and is looking for new opportunities!

Looks like he is on Privateer Bikes for 2023, at least for enduro

 

 

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4/1/2023 6:56am

Cathro on a dorado at the sda this weekend. 

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4/2/2023 8:25pm
Tim Horton wrote:
I see no option, other than for Frameworks / Mullaly to grab anyone they can to ride the bike(s). Is there a fast, "semi self funded"...

I see no option, other than for Frameworks / Mullaly to grab anyone they can to ride the bike(s). Is there a fast, "semi self funded" rider out there, with an empty calendar? I wouldn't know, but it would be worth cheering on.

Who was the guy building his own frames and doing pretty well on last year's US downhill races? 

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4/3/2023 3:05am Edited Date/Time 4/3/2023 8:49am
Stewyeww wrote:

Who was the guy building his own frames and doing pretty well on last year's US downhill races? 

Isak Leivsson?

 

If so, he moved to Norway fairly recently.

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4/3/2023 7:31am

The UCI is ridiculous. 

 

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4/3/2023 8:46am

that's a head-scratcher. here's the vid where lew talks about it

 

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4/3/2023 9:00am Edited Date/Time 4/3/2023 9:30am

I don't give two shits about it, tbh. I thought he was mostly retired from racing anyways. He must have known it was probable,  the whole thing sorta smells like a gimmick to get clicks. 

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4/3/2023 9:19am

He made a good point, OnlyFans is not an issue in other industries. And FWIW, the influx of crypto into F1 for example is welcomed with open arms, including FTX's sponsorship of the Mercedes F1 team. Nobody bat an eye yet the shady dealings of FTX cost a LOT of people a lot of money. But here we are arguing about an 18+, paid only website? It's not applicable to kids (there's literally a paywall) and how many kids have a credit card? If they have it, can't their transactions be limited when it comes to 18+ stuff? Wouldn't that make it the ideal filter? Don't see how it would be an issue with the crowd of legal age and all, unless the UCI an arm of the Catholic Church or something...

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4/3/2023 9:30am

We'll see if this is an isolated incident or if Stefan Garlicki suffers the same fate. I feel like he would be looking to race many more UCI sanctioned events than Lewis was.

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4/3/2023 9:33am
sspomer wrote:
that's a head-scratcher. here's the vid where lew talks about it  

that's a head-scratcher. here's the vid where lew talks about it

 

It's merely a social media platform with a paywall, Twitter lets the same shit fly for free. UCI is gonna scare off other social media platforms from using riders as advertising space because that will always have certain implications. Not saying that a bunch were going to, but it is among the world's largest industries. Seems like a short-sighted decision.

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4/3/2023 10:41am Edited Date/Time 4/3/2023 10:44am

Genuine question: the uci doesn't have to enforce all rules they have on the books, right?

Calling it just a social media platform with a paywall, while technically true, is somewhat disingenuous. That's like saying marin isn't a bike company cause they don't actually manufacture the bikes, they merely distribute them. They do design them tho, maybe this analogy would be better if it was a bike company that just slapped their name on catalog bikes. If 99% of it is porn and they make 99% of their money from said porn...

Regardless, the larger question is not if OF is porn, but rather if the uci should have the rule prohibiting porn sponsorship. 

Personally, porn doesn't bother me, OF seems like a fine platform, a better system than exploitative porn of old. But, I can see why uci might not want porn sponsorships: lots of kids watch racing. You parents out there imagine your 9 year old saw that and asks "what's only fans"? That and the god squad, I could see it being off putting to some potential fans/viewers.

Also I've never seen ads for porn on tv, youtube, or any social media platform, and I'd bet there's laws against it. If, for example, the leogang world cup was sponsored by bang bros and they had bang bros signs lining the track, then could discovery broadcast the race without getting into hot water? I suspect this might be primary reason for the uci rule. 

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4/3/2023 11:05am Edited Date/Time 4/3/2023 11:09am

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Taylor Vernon has a new frame for 2023. He used to race a Commencal last season. Maybe someone can identify this frame. Looks good, great for him that he pulled out a sponsor. The guy is fast but had some bad luck in the past.

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4/3/2023 11:10am
trexyz wrote:
Taylor Vernon has a new frame for 2023. He used to race a Commencal last season. Maybe someone can identify this frame. Looks good, great for...

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Taylor Vernon has a new frame for 2023. He used to race a Commencal last season. Maybe someone can identify this frame. Looks good, great for him that he pulled out a sponsor. The guy is fast but had some bad luck in the past.

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Primoz
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4/3/2023 11:36am
kcy4130 wrote:
Genuine question: the uci doesn't have to enforce all rules they have on the books, right? Calling it just a social media platform with a paywall...

Genuine question: the uci doesn't have to enforce all rules they have on the books, right?

Calling it just a social media platform with a paywall, while technically true, is somewhat disingenuous. That's like saying marin isn't a bike company cause they don't actually manufacture the bikes, they merely distribute them. They do design them tho, maybe this analogy would be better if it was a bike company that just slapped their name on catalog bikes. If 99% of it is porn and they make 99% of their money from said porn...

Regardless, the larger question is not if OF is porn, but rather if the uci should have the rule prohibiting porn sponsorship. 

Personally, porn doesn't bother me, OF seems like a fine platform, a better system than exploitative porn of old. But, I can see why uci might not want porn sponsorships: lots of kids watch racing. You parents out there imagine your 9 year old saw that and asks "what's only fans"? That and the god squad, I could see it being off putting to some potential fans/viewers.

Also I've never seen ads for porn on tv, youtube, or any social media platform, and I'd bet there's laws against it. If, for example, the leogang world cup was sponsored by bang bros and they had bang bros signs lining the track, then could discovery broadcast the race without getting into hot water? I suspect this might be primary reason for the uci rule. 

Based off the podcast that was mentioned here before the owners of OF want to move away from porn on the site (and use other sites for that) and make OF what it was originally intended to do, a Patreon-style webpage. Sponsorship deals like these sure do look like it. And kids asking 'what's OnlyFans' is a prime example of why they are doing it as their parents will tell them the PG-13 version thus shifting the outlook of the site with the next generation of potential users.

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kcy4130
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4/3/2023 11:56am
Primoz wrote:
Based off the podcast that was mentioned here before the owners of OF want to move away from porn on the site (and use other sites...

Based off the podcast that was mentioned here before the owners of OF want to move away from porn on the site (and use other sites for that) and make OF what it was originally intended to do, a Patreon-style webpage. Sponsorship deals like these sure do look like it. And kids asking 'what's OnlyFans' is a prime example of why they are doing it as their parents will tell them the PG-13 version thus shifting the outlook of the site with the next generation of potential users.

What he said is probably just pr horseshit. If only fans really wanted to show they're not just porn, they'd make a separate but identical platform for non porn content only and call it something else. Having "only fans" emblazoned on a helmet is just like any other advertising, it's meant to get more people on that site where they might find "other" content where only fans makes their real money. But maybe I'm being too cynical. Some credit card companies made noise about no longer dealing with OF, that's the real and probably only reason they're spending money to try to whitewash their image. 

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4/3/2023 1:35pm
Primoz wrote:
Based off the podcast that was mentioned here before the owners of OF want to move away from porn on the site (and use other sites...

Based off the podcast that was mentioned here before the owners of OF want to move away from porn on the site (and use other sites for that) and make OF what it was originally intended to do, a Patreon-style webpage. Sponsorship deals like these sure do look like it. And kids asking 'what's OnlyFans' is a prime example of why they are doing it as their parents will tell them the PG-13 version thus shifting the outlook of the site with the next generation of potential users.

kcy4130 wrote:
What he said is probably just pr horseshit. If only fans really wanted to show they're not just porn, they'd make a separate but identical platform...

What he said is probably just pr horseshit. If only fans really wanted to show they're not just porn, they'd make a separate but identical platform for non porn content only and call it something else. Having "only fans" emblazoned on a helmet is just like any other advertising, it's meant to get more people on that site where they might find "other" content where only fans makes their real money. But maybe I'm being too cynical. Some credit card companies made noise about no longer dealing with OF, that's the real and probably only reason they're spending money to try to whitewash their image. 

Not to mention that they're largely advertising in 'action sports,' like MTB, F1, supercross, etc., that are largely popular with men, e.g. primary porn consumption audience.

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4/9/2023 9:08pm
Losifer wrote:

Jackson Goldstone posted on IG that he is just leaving the hospital after 4 days with a ruptured appendix.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cq1tGSwrLOX/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

metadave wrote:
I do hate when I drop a book and the last few pages of supplemental information pops out the binding. Wishing Jackson well on his recovery. ...

I do hate when I drop a book and the last few pages of supplemental information pops out the binding. Wishing Jackson well on his recovery. 

 

Luckily he’s young, fit, and the WCDH doesn’t start for two months.

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4/10/2023 9:09am
Losifer wrote:

Jackson Goldstone posted on IG that he is just leaving the hospital after 4 days with a ruptured appendix.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cq1tGSwrLOX/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

metadave wrote:
I do hate when I drop a book and the last few pages of supplemental information pops out the binding. Wishing Jackson well on his recovery. ...

I do hate when I drop a book and the last few pages of supplemental information pops out the binding. Wishing Jackson well on his recovery. 

 

Sadly that's probably a niche joke since a lot of people born after 2000 will never read a book with an appendix 

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