On the other site the comments say its largely due to the increase in fees for ‘23 - around 20k now. Is that confirmed anywhere?
the most recent thing i saw (no idea how concrete/formal/official) was that there are 3 levels of team being offered from 5 to 23k euros depending status (access/benefits) single or multi-discipline. i don't know what tge price was this past year, so no idea if there's an increase, or if it's big/small.
there are also some other rules and regs for team visuals in the bargaining stages right now. can't decide if initial proposal is laughable or sad, but trying to remain hopeful.
regardless of prices and potential rule changes, i agree w/ everyone here saying there's too much uncertainty for small players and would have to think the same for big players, assuming overall impressions and competitive fields are drastically lower than years past. we'll see i guess.
It's pretty obvious if you follow him on Instagram, but Asa Vermette is likely going to be racing for Frameworks this season. He's too young to do World Cup yet, but is supposedly going to do some IXS, Crankworks, and various North American races. Asa was pretty open about it at the Angelfire Team Trail Party race, but now it's on him and his dad's Instagram that he's currently riding a Frameworks bike. Not sure if they've officially inked any deal, though, but expect it to happen.
It's pretty obvious if you follow him on Instagram, but Asa Vermette is likely going to be racing for Frameworks this season. He's too young to...
It's pretty obvious if you follow him on Instagram, but Asa Vermette is likely going to be racing for Frameworks this season. He's too young to do World Cup yet, but is supposedly going to do some IXS, Crankworks, and various North American races. Asa was pretty open about it at the Angelfire Team Trail Party race, but now it's on him and his dad's Instagram that he's currently riding a Frameworks bike. Not sure if they've officially inked any deal, though, but expect it to happen.
Asa has been testing out various bikes, including the Transition TR11, nothing is set in stone yet, as he has many options available.
My interpretation of it was they lost the brothers to another team so without decent racers it wasn’t worth the trouble. They will return once they...
My interpretation of it was they lost the brothers to another team so without decent racers it wasn’t worth the trouble. They will return once they have a solid team to compete with.
I think Henry Kerr is a decent racer.
This talk of the brothers going to Giant leaving Kerr on Propain immediately made me think of this
My interpretation of it was they lost the brothers to another team so without decent racers it wasn’t worth the trouble. They will return once they...
My interpretation of it was they lost the brothers to another team so without decent racers it wasn’t worth the trouble. They will return once they have a solid team to compete with.
So what I’ve heard on the podcasts I’ve recently listened to.
Pivot are getting a new male rider, unsure if it’s addition or replacement.
Wynn did screen testing for discovery but won’t be doing the main job.
Blenki to Cube.
I know not technically racing but riders are getting upset with the scoring at rampage and there might be a lot less of them there next year. This is according to Davi on the ride companion talking to Andreu Lacondeguy
Anyone any insight into what’s happening with Gracie Hemstreet? What teams are missing a female rider?
I'm not convinced yet. I haven't heard anything new from my contact at Canyon since they told me Jack was off the team.
So either Jesse...
I'm not convinced yet. I haven't heard anything new from my contact at Canyon since they told me Jack was off the team.
So either Jesse is going to another team or Canyon is trying REALLY hard to keep this under wraps.
I'm not bought in to the Jesse --> Canyon rumor either.
I don't think that Troll Master Melamed would drop a blatantly obvious hint with that espresso reflection photo that was shared a few weeks ago. Jesse has my vote for early 2023 rumors forum MVP
So what I’ve heard on the podcasts I’ve recently listened to.
Pivot are getting a new male rider, unsure if it’s addition or replacement.
Wynn did...
So what I’ve heard on the podcasts I’ve recently listened to.
Pivot are getting a new male rider, unsure if it’s addition or replacement.
Wynn did screen testing for discovery but won’t be doing the main job.
Blenki to Cube.
I know not technically racing but riders are getting upset with the scoring at rampage and there might be a lot less of them there next year. This is according to Davi on the ride companion talking to Andreu Lacondeguy
Anyone any insight into what’s happening with Gracie Hemstreet? What teams are missing a female rider?
I don't have anything to back it up but I saw someone post on Instagram yesterday Gracey Hemstreet to YT. On the same post they had some info I believe might be correct (Jack Moir to YT) & some I believe is incorrect (Meier-Smith brothers to YT, actually going to Giant) so take it with a pinch of salt. Gracey to YT would seem like a good fit though?
I don't have anything to back it up but I saw someone post on Instagram yesterday Gracey Hemstreet to YT. On the same post they had...
I don't have anything to back it up but I saw someone post on Instagram yesterday Gracey Hemstreet to YT. On the same post they had some info I believe might be correct (Jack Moir to YT) & some I believe is incorrect (Meier-Smith brothers to YT, actually going to Giant) so take it with a pinch of salt. Gracey to YT would seem like a good fit though?
"I saw someone post on Instagram yesterday Gracey Hemstreet to YT" - this is false
I'm not bought in to the Jesse --> Canyon rumor either.
I don't think that Troll Master Melamed would drop a blatantly obvious hint with that...
I'm not bought in to the Jesse --> Canyon rumor either.
I don't think that Troll Master Melamed would drop a blatantly obvious hint with that espresso reflection photo that was shared a few weeks ago. Jesse has my vote for early 2023 rumors forum MVP
I think Jesse made an honest mistake and then tried to cover it up. I've thought way too much about this but here we go:
The photo was posted the morning after returning home from Finale and a trip through Spain. He was posting his first morning espresso, probably super jetlagged. I bet he inked the deal sometime during the last segment of the EWS season and then a welcome package was waiting at home. He threw on the fresh t-shirt because it was the easiest thing for his jetlagged brain then went to post about his coffee. It blows up, someone points out the thread on Vital so he counters with a big S shirt.
Levy posted his article on Pinkbike and claimed to not even know about the Vital post, he had totally different sources.
In closing, my thesis is that Jesse made a mistake by accidentally framing himself in the reflection of his espresso machine, and then covered it up.
I think Jesse made an honest mistake and then tried to cover it up. I've thought way too much about this but here we go:
The...
I think Jesse made an honest mistake and then tried to cover it up. I've thought way too much about this but here we go:
The photo was posted the morning after returning home from Finale and a trip through Spain. He was posting his first morning espresso, probably super jetlagged. I bet he inked the deal sometime during the last segment of the EWS season and then a welcome package was waiting at home. He threw on the fresh t-shirt because it was the easiest thing for his jetlagged brain then went to post about his coffee. It blows up, someone points out the thread on Vital so he counters with a big S shirt.
Levy posted his article on Pinkbike and claimed to not even know about the Vital post, he had totally different sources.
In closing, my thesis is that Jesse made a mistake by accidentally framing himself in the reflection of his espresso machine, and then covered it up.
I'm not bought in to the Jesse --> Canyon rumor either.
I don't think that Troll Master Melamed would drop a blatantly obvious hint with that...
I'm not bought in to the Jesse --> Canyon rumor either.
I don't think that Troll Master Melamed would drop a blatantly obvious hint with that espresso reflection photo that was shared a few weeks ago. Jesse has my vote for early 2023 rumors forum MVP
I think Jesse made an honest mistake and then tried to cover it up. I've thought way too much about this but here we go:
The...
I think Jesse made an honest mistake and then tried to cover it up. I've thought way too much about this but here we go:
The photo was posted the morning after returning home from Finale and a trip through Spain. He was posting his first morning espresso, probably super jetlagged. I bet he inked the deal sometime during the last segment of the EWS season and then a welcome package was waiting at home. He threw on the fresh t-shirt because it was the easiest thing for his jetlagged brain then went to post about his coffee. It blows up, someone points out the thread on Vital so he counters with a big S shirt.
Levy posted his article on Pinkbike and claimed to not even know about the Vital post, he had totally different sources.
In closing, my thesis is that Jesse made a mistake by accidentally framing himself in the reflection of his espresso machine, and then covered it up.
the Canyon logo was kinda well framed and visible for an actually accidental shot
can only imagine Jesse sitting on his couch laughing his ass off reading the stuff in here
the most recent thing i saw (no idea how concrete/formal/official) was that there are 3 levels of team being offered from 5 to 23k euros depending...
the most recent thing i saw (no idea how concrete/formal/official) was that there are 3 levels of team being offered from 5 to 23k euros depending status (access/benefits) single or multi-discipline. i don't know what tge price was this past year, so no idea if there's an increase, or if it's big/small.
there are also some other rules and regs for team visuals in the bargaining stages right now. can't decide if initial proposal is laughable or sad, but trying to remain hopeful.
regardless of prices and potential rule changes, i agree w/ everyone here saying there's too much uncertainty for small players and would have to think the same for big players, assuming overall impressions and competitive fields are drastically lower than years past. we'll see i guess.
I believe I read it was under 5000 Euros in previous years, if so that's a huge price hike.
I don't have anything to back it up but I saw someone post on Instagram yesterday Gracey Hemstreet to YT. On the same post they had...
I don't have anything to back it up but I saw someone post on Instagram yesterday Gracey Hemstreet to YT. On the same post they had some info I believe might be correct (Jack Moir to YT) & some I believe is incorrect (Meier-Smith brothers to YT, actually going to Giant) so take it with a pinch of salt. Gracey to YT would seem like a good fit though?
cyclingtips layoff chaos followed by loads of canceled subs (according to comments). sucks for those who got the axe as that community seemed to really value what they did.
"Today Caley Fretz, Dave Rome, Matt de Neef and Daniel Benson (Editor-in-Chief of VN) were let go. Plus lots of other staff (including Steve Brawley who has been with CT for years in sales) and others throughout the company. 12% in total.
What a clusterfcuk OutsideInc is. Robin Thurston has gotten his head over his skis and singlehandedly fcuked up dozens of good media publications in just 2 years.
cyclingtips layoff chaos followed by loads of canceled subs (according to comments). sucks for those who got the axe as that community seemed to really value...
cyclingtips layoff chaos followed by loads of canceled subs (according to comments). sucks for those who got the axe as that community seemed to really value what they did.
"Today Caley Fretz, Dave Rome, Matt de Neef and Daniel Benson (Editor-in-Chief of VN) were let go. Plus lots of other staff (including Steve Brawley who has been with CT for years in sales) and others throughout the company. 12% in total.
What a clusterfcuk OutsideInc is. Robin Thurston has gotten his head over his skis and singlehandedly fcuked up dozens of good media publications in just 2 years.
Goodbye CT. It was good while it lasted."
God I hope this isn't a microcosm of what could happen with Discovery takeover of WC racing.
cyclingtips layoff chaos followed by loads of canceled subs (according to comments). sucks for those who got the axe as that community seemed to really value...
cyclingtips layoff chaos followed by loads of canceled subs (according to comments). sucks for those who got the axe as that community seemed to really value what they did.
"Today Caley Fretz, Dave Rome, Matt de Neef and Daniel Benson (Editor-in-Chief of VN) were let go. Plus lots of other staff (including Steve Brawley who has been with CT for years in sales) and others throughout the company. 12% in total.
What a clusterfcuk OutsideInc is. Robin Thurston has gotten his head over his skis and singlehandedly fcuked up dozens of good media publications in just 2 years.
cyclingtips layoff chaos followed by loads of canceled subs (according to comments). sucks for those who got the axe as that community seemed to really value...
cyclingtips layoff chaos followed by loads of canceled subs (according to comments). sucks for those who got the axe as that community seemed to really value what they did.
"Today Caley Fretz, Dave Rome, Matt de Neef and Daniel Benson (Editor-in-Chief of VN) were let go. Plus lots of other staff (including Steve Brawley who has been with CT for years in sales) and others throughout the company. 12% in total.
What a clusterfcuk OutsideInc is. Robin Thurston has gotten his head over his skis and singlehandedly fcuked up dozens of good media publications in just 2 years.
Goodbye CT. It was good while it lasted."
Team Media Rumors -
Spoomer - would be interesting to see an article about bike media consolidation and what corp entity each of the major sites is under. It's getting ugly out there esp with Outside also controlling BRAIN. I've intentionally been trying to give Vital a lot more of my clicks and Outside entities a lot less.
cyclingtips layoff chaos followed by loads of canceled subs (according to comments). sucks for those who got the axe as that community seemed to really value...
cyclingtips layoff chaos followed by loads of canceled subs (according to comments). sucks for those who got the axe as that community seemed to really value what they did.
"Today Caley Fretz, Dave Rome, Matt de Neef and Daniel Benson (Editor-in-Chief of VN) were let go. Plus lots of other staff (including Steve Brawley who has been with CT for years in sales) and others throughout the company. 12% in total.
What a clusterfcuk OutsideInc is. Robin Thurston has gotten his head over his skis and singlehandedly fcuked up dozens of good media publications in just 2 years.
Dude spent millions on outdated media publications that were only hardly profitable even when they were extremely lean. He also bought the majority of them at peak valuation and now the industry is undoubtedly headed towards a small recession and possibly a monumental one if the world economy continues to dip. I’m sure the vast majority of paid subscribers they gained by buying pinkbike/beta dipped as soon as they folded beta. Cycling tips will be no different. With how many ways advertisers can reach consumers in the modern age I have no idea how he ever thought he’d get a return on investment. No matter how many brands you buy you aren’t going to monopolize how people discuss bikes/outdoor recreation on the internet.
cyclingtips layoff chaos followed by loads of canceled subs (according to comments). sucks for those who got the axe as that community seemed to really value...
cyclingtips layoff chaos followed by loads of canceled subs (according to comments). sucks for those who got the axe as that community seemed to really value what they did.
"Today Caley Fretz, Dave Rome, Matt de Neef and Daniel Benson (Editor-in-Chief of VN) were let go. Plus lots of other staff (including Steve Brawley who has been with CT for years in sales) and others throughout the company. 12% in total.
What a clusterfcuk OutsideInc is. Robin Thurston has gotten his head over his skis and singlehandedly fcuked up dozens of good media publications in just 2 years.
Goodbye CT. It was good while it lasted."
Damn. First BETA (former BikeMag staff) got axed, then layoffs at Pinkbike and now Cycling Tips is next in line.
Robin Thurston sure has a talent for running businesses into the ground.
cyclingtips layoff chaos followed by loads of canceled subs (according to comments). sucks for those who got the axe as that community seemed to really value...
cyclingtips layoff chaos followed by loads of canceled subs (according to comments). sucks for those who got the axe as that community seemed to really value what they did.
"Today Caley Fretz, Dave Rome, Matt de Neef and Daniel Benson (Editor-in-Chief of VN) were let go. Plus lots of other staff (including Steve Brawley who has been with CT for years in sales) and others throughout the company. 12% in total.
What a clusterfcuk OutsideInc is. Robin Thurston has gotten his head over his skis and singlehandedly fcuked up dozens of good media publications in just 2 years.
Team Media Rumors -
Spoomer - would be interesting to see an article about bike media consolidation and what corp entity each of the major sites...
Team Media Rumors -
Spoomer - would be interesting to see an article about bike media consolidation and what corp entity each of the major sites is under. It's getting ugly out there esp with Outside also controlling BRAIN. I've intentionally been trying to give Vital a lot more of my clicks and Outside entities a lot less.
Discovery - Owns Play Sports, which includes GCN, GMBN, and all those various channels.
Immediate Media - Bike Radar, MBUK, Cycling Plus.
Future Publishing - CyclingNews, Bike Perfect, Pro Cycling, MBR, Cycling Weekly.
cyclingtips layoff chaos followed by loads of canceled subs (according to comments). sucks for those who got the axe as that community seemed to really value...
cyclingtips layoff chaos followed by loads of canceled subs (according to comments). sucks for those who got the axe as that community seemed to really value what they did.
"Today Caley Fretz, Dave Rome, Matt de Neef and Daniel Benson (Editor-in-Chief of VN) were let go. Plus lots of other staff (including Steve Brawley who has been with CT for years in sales) and others throughout the company. 12% in total.
What a clusterfcuk OutsideInc is. Robin Thurston has gotten his head over his skis and singlehandedly fcuked up dozens of good media publications in just 2 years.
Goodbye CT. It was good while it lasted."
tried listening to the podcast on the other site where they had thurston on, had to switch off after 20 minutes because that guy is such an insufferable and unlikeable piece of shit
too bad about CT, while I’m not really following road racing I liked to read it for the tech nerdery and widening my bike horizon a bit.
Was Bernard Kerr's recent whirlwind trip to Greece to sign a certain expat Brit rider whose main bike sponsor just paused their racing program for 2023? Or is he just really into Souvlaki?
So what I’ve heard on the podcasts I’ve recently listened to.
Pivot are getting a new male rider, unsure if it’s addition or replacement.
Wynn did...
So what I’ve heard on the podcasts I’ve recently listened to.
Pivot are getting a new male rider, unsure if it’s addition or replacement.
Wynn did screen testing for discovery but won’t be doing the main job.
Blenki to Cube.
I know not technically racing but riders are getting upset with the scoring at rampage and there might be a lot less of them there next year. This is according to Davi on the ride companion talking to Andreu Lacondeguy
Anyone any insight into what’s happening with Gracie Hemstreet? What teams are missing a female rider?
Pretty sure I saw Bernard was in Athens on Insta. If Pivot is getting a new male rider, and Propain just folded their WC DH team, there is a good chance it could be Phil Atwill. I know Phil was not on the Propain factory team, but if they are folding one they might fold Propain Positive too. Phil on the Pivot team would be incredible...
Pretty sure I saw Bernard was in Athens on Insta. If Pivot is getting a new male rider, and Propain just folded their WC DH team...
Pretty sure I saw Bernard was in Athens on Insta. If Pivot is getting a new male rider, and Propain just folded their WC DH team, there is a good chance it could be Phil Atwill. I know Phil was not on the Propain factory team, but if they are folding one they might fold Propain Positive too. Phil on the Pivot team would be incredible...
I think the Leatt team is in Athens, not just Pivot. For what it's worth, Tippie is there too and I have my doubts he's the new Pivot rider...
the most recent thing i saw (no idea how concrete/formal/official) was that there are 3 levels of team being offered from 5 to 23k euros depending status (access/benefits) single or multi-discipline. i don't know what tge price was this past year, so no idea if there's an increase, or if it's big/small.
there are also some other rules and regs for team visuals in the bargaining stages right now. can't decide if initial proposal is laughable or sad, but trying to remain hopeful.
regardless of prices and potential rule changes, i agree w/ everyone here saying there's too much uncertainty for small players and would have to think the same for big players, assuming overall impressions and competitive fields are drastically lower than years past. we'll see i guess.
It's pretty obvious if you follow him on Instagram, but Asa Vermette is likely going to be racing for Frameworks this season. He's too young to do World Cup yet, but is supposedly going to do some IXS, Crankworks, and various North American races. Asa was pretty open about it at the Angelfire Team Trail Party race, but now it's on him and his dad's Instagram that he's currently riding a Frameworks bike. Not sure if they've officially inked any deal, though, but expect it to happen.
Asa has been testing out various bikes, including the Transition TR11, nothing is set in stone yet, as he has many options available.
I think Henry Kerr is a decent racer.
This talk of the brothers going to Giant leaving Kerr on Propain immediately made me think of this
https://youtu.be/oByoijUhWY8
Cube is looking for a third mechanic... Maybe Henry will end up there.
So what I’ve heard on the podcasts I’ve recently listened to.
Pivot are getting a new male rider, unsure if it’s addition or replacement.
Wynn did screen testing for discovery but won’t be doing the main job.
Blenki to Cube.
I know not technically racing but riders are getting upset with the scoring at rampage and there might be a lot less of them there next year. This is according to Davi on the ride companion talking to Andreu Lacondeguy
Anyone any insight into what’s happening with Gracie Hemstreet? What teams are missing a female rider?
I'm not bought in to the Jesse --> Canyon rumor either.
I don't think that Troll Master Melamed would drop a blatantly obvious hint with that espresso reflection photo that was shared a few weeks ago. Jesse has my vote for early 2023 rumors forum MVP
I don't have anything to back it up but I saw someone post on Instagram yesterday Gracey Hemstreet to YT. On the same post they had some info I believe might be correct (Jack Moir to YT) & some I believe is incorrect (Meier-Smith brothers to YT, actually going to Giant) so take it with a pinch of salt. Gracey to YT would seem like a good fit though?
"I saw someone post on Instagram yesterday Gracey Hemstreet to YT" - this is false
I think Jesse made an honest mistake and then tried to cover it up. I've thought way too much about this but here we go:
The photo was posted the morning after returning home from Finale and a trip through Spain. He was posting his first morning espresso, probably super jetlagged. I bet he inked the deal sometime during the last segment of the EWS season and then a welcome package was waiting at home. He threw on the fresh t-shirt because it was the easiest thing for his jetlagged brain then went to post about his coffee. It blows up, someone points out the thread on Vital so he counters with a big S shirt.
Levy posted his article on Pinkbike and claimed to not even know about the Vital post, he had totally different sources.
In closing, my thesis is that Jesse made a mistake by accidentally framing himself in the reflection of his espresso machine, and then covered it up.
the Canyon logo was kinda well framed and visible for an actually accidental shot
can only imagine Jesse sitting on his couch laughing his ass off reading the stuff in here
I believe I read it was under 5000 Euros in previous years, if so that's a huge price hike.
Fair enough. 1/3 ain’t bad I guess 😂😂👍
Gwendalyn Gibson officially moves to Trek Factory Racing XC.
https://www.instagram.com/p/Ck_Xdgqrvkm/
here's a story about gwendalyn on the trek site https://racing.trekbikes.com/stories/tfr-cross-country/gwendalyn-gibson…
cyclingtips layoff chaos followed by loads of canceled subs (according to comments). sucks for those who got the axe as that community seemed to really value what they did.
https://forum.cyclingtips.com/t/laid-off-caley-fretz-dave-rome-matt-de-…
"Today Caley Fretz, Dave Rome, Matt de Neef and Daniel Benson (Editor-in-Chief of VN) were let go. Plus lots of other staff (including Steve Brawley who has been with CT for years in sales) and others throughout the company. 12% in total.
What a clusterfcuk OutsideInc is. Robin Thurston has gotten his head over his skis and singlehandedly fcuked up dozens of good media publications in just 2 years.
Goodbye CT. It was good while it lasted."
Don't know if this is big news to anyone else, but Avancini off Cannondale?!?!?!
God I hope this isn't a microcosm of what could happen with Discovery takeover of WC racing.
https://www.bicycleretailer.com/industry-news/2022/11/16/staff-cuts-out…
Here's his reasoning...so he can make more money.
You'd almost think Owning or running businesses was to make money, how scandalous.
Team Media Rumors -
Spoomer - would be interesting to see an article about bike media consolidation and what corp entity each of the major sites is under. It's getting ugly out there esp with Outside also controlling BRAIN. I've intentionally been trying to give Vital a lot more of my clicks and Outside entities a lot less.
Cannondale sent out an email this morning announcing this. A significant move being riding for them for 8 years.
Dude spent millions on outdated media publications that were only hardly profitable even when they were extremely lean. He also bought the majority of them at peak valuation and now the industry is undoubtedly headed towards a small recession and possibly a monumental one if the world economy continues to dip. I’m sure the vast majority of paid subscribers they gained by buying pinkbike/beta dipped as soon as they folded beta. Cycling tips will be no different. With how many ways advertisers can reach consumers in the modern age I have no idea how he ever thought he’d get a return on investment. No matter how many brands you buy you aren’t going to monopolize how people discuss bikes/outdoor recreation on the internet.
Damn. First BETA (former BikeMag staff) got axed, then layoffs at Pinkbike and now Cycling Tips is next in line.
Robin Thurston sure has a talent for running businesses into the ground.
Discovery - Owns Play Sports, which includes GCN, GMBN, and all those various channels.
Immediate Media - Bike Radar, MBUK, Cycling Plus.
Future Publishing - CyclingNews, Bike Perfect, Pro Cycling, MBR, Cycling Weekly.
tried listening to the podcast on the other site where they had thurston on, had to switch off after 20 minutes because that guy is such an insufferable and unlikeable piece of shit
too bad about CT, while I’m not really following road racing I liked to read it for the tech nerdery and widening my bike horizon a bit.
Was Bernard Kerr's recent whirlwind trip to Greece to sign a certain expat Brit rider whose main bike sponsor just paused their racing program for 2023? Or is he just really into Souvlaki?
Pretty sure I saw Bernard was in Athens on Insta. If Pivot is getting a new male rider, and Propain just folded their WC DH team, there is a good chance it could be Phil Atwill. I know Phil was not on the Propain factory team, but if they are folding one they might fold Propain Positive too. Phil on the Pivot team would be incredible...
I think the Leatt team is in Athens, not just Pivot. For what it's worth, Tippie is there too and I have my doubts he's the new Pivot rider...
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