looks like a nice update to the current SD, but just 3 clicks of HSC and 5 LSC seem a bit little? i don‘t need 20...
looks like a nice update to the current SD, but just 3 clicks of HSC and 5 LSC seem a bit little? i don‘t need 20 different clicks, but 5-10 should benefit a lot more riders i think.
3 clicks for HSC works for Ohlins. Just means your baseline tune needs to be in the right area to make it work.
from new norco vid that went up. (if seen before, sorry)
https://www.vitalmtb.com/community/norcobicycles,39699/blog/03/17/2021/entry/3176
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Have Monarchs been available in different ETEs and tunes? At least with the Monarch you could replace the tune through a P/N spare part. It's much...
Have Monarchs been available in different ETEs and tunes? At least with the Monarch you could replace the tune through a P/N spare part. It's much harder in this regard to deal with Super Deluxes... Plus the Trunnions, bearing mounts, etc.
RS should just offer assembly parts for a decent price so people could build their own shocks the way they need them and be done with it
just buy extra shims from a suspension/moto place and add remove as desired. want more compression, add some 0.15s. want less rebound take out a shim...
just buy extra shims from a suspension/moto place and add remove as desired. want more compression, add some 0.15s. want less rebound take out a shim or 2. shims are all 9mm ID
Have Monarchs been available in different ETEs and tunes? At least with the Monarch you could replace the tune through a P/N spare part. It's much...
Have Monarchs been available in different ETEs and tunes? At least with the Monarch you could replace the tune through a P/N spare part. It's much harder in this regard to deal with Super Deluxes... Plus the Trunnions, bearing mounts, etc.
RS should just offer assembly parts for a decent price so people could build their own shocks the way they need them and be done with it
just buy extra shims from a suspension/moto place and add remove as desired. want more compression, add some 0.15s. want less rebound take out a shim...
just buy extra shims from a suspension/moto place and add remove as desired. want more compression, add some 0.15s. want less rebound take out a shim or 2. shims are all 9mm ID
Have Monarchs been available in different ETEs and tunes? At least with the Monarch you could replace the tune through a P/N spare part. It's much...
Have Monarchs been available in different ETEs and tunes? At least with the Monarch you could replace the tune through a P/N spare part. It's much harder in this regard to deal with Super Deluxes... Plus the Trunnions, bearing mounts, etc.
RS should just offer assembly parts for a decent price so people could build their own shocks the way they need them and be done with it
just buy extra shims from a suspension/moto place and add remove as desired. want more compression, add some 0.15s. want less rebound take out a shim...
just buy extra shims from a suspension/moto place and add remove as desired. want more compression, add some 0.15s. want less rebound take out a shim or 2. shims are all 9mm ID
Have Monarchs been available in different ETEs and tunes? At least with the Monarch you could replace the tune through a P/N spare part. It's much...
Have Monarchs been available in different ETEs and tunes? At least with the Monarch you could replace the tune through a P/N spare part. It's much harder in this regard to deal with Super Deluxes... Plus the Trunnions, bearing mounts, etc.
RS should just offer assembly parts for a decent price so people could build their own shocks the way they need them and be done with it
just buy extra shims from a suspension/moto place and add remove as desired. want more compression, add some 0.15s. want less rebound take out a shim...
just buy extra shims from a suspension/moto place and add remove as desired. want more compression, add some 0.15s. want less rebound take out a shim or 2. shims are all 9mm ID
That's why. The rebuild is sort of the easy part. The hard part is to determine what and where to install (shimstacktor helps here) and then actually doing it, probably a few times over (the complete rebuild...) and then you need to quantify what you did. Which is interesting without a dyno.
Plus, with a super deluxe, you have two sets of shims on the piston (one is for the rebound) and one on the bridge. Which set covers which type of bump? Does shimstacktor cover this?
Just having different tunes published would be an immense help. Buy a shock in the right dimensions and retune it according to the published data. If they sold the packs it would be even better. The way it is now its almost impossible to buy the correct super deluxe for a bike that doesn't come with one, if it needs a special tune.
I'd put a good chunk of change on The Norco DH bike we are seeing is the new Range with a modified dropout and link to accomodate additional travel and to change up leverage curves and what not to better suit DH. One of the photos of blenki at NZ champs you can see a raw alloy dropout and unpolished lower link.
With the sight being 150/160 it makes for the Range to move up to Super Enduro and be 160/170-180. I'd wager Blenkis bike at NZ champs was 180/200 just based on visual differences in that rear dropout length.
Norco has revamped every bike in their lineup (road division aswell). The Aurum hsp which technically is now the oldest was the first of the big changes to the previouse banana shape themed frames lineup. Norco is a big company but they aren't that big and therefore money has to be used wisely.
It makes total sense to build the DH platform off the new Range until it's viable and the market is there to layup new molds for a dedicated DH bike.
Super Enduros and DH bikes are already so similiar. I'd wager the difference between a HP super Enduro and HP DH bike is an even smaller gap.
I'd put a good chunk of change on The Norco DH bike we are seeing is the new Range with a modified dropout and link to...
I'd put a good chunk of change on The Norco DH bike we are seeing is the new Range with a modified dropout and link to accomodate additional travel and to change up leverage curves and what not to better suit DH. One of the photos of blenki at NZ champs you can see a raw alloy dropout and unpolished lower link.
With the sight being 150/160 it makes for the Range to move up to Super Enduro and be 160/170-180. I'd wager Blenkis bike at NZ champs was 180/200 just based on visual differences in that rear dropout length.
Norco has revamped every bike in their lineup (road division aswell). The Aurum hsp which technically is now the oldest was the first of the big changes to the previouse banana shape themed frames lineup. Norco is a big company but they aren't that big and therefore money has to be used wisely.
It makes total sense to build the DH platform off the new Range until it's viable and the market is there to layup new molds for a dedicated DH bike.
Super Enduros and DH bikes are already so similiar. I'd wager the difference between a HP super Enduro and HP DH bike is an even smaller gap.
That's kind of genius. Run the same front triangle, water bottle bosses and all, and just change the swing arm and links to transform the bike between enduro and DH. A longer swing arm due to longer drop outs means more travel and stability for the DH bike and visa versa. Having two shocks and perhaps drivetrain's would even further seal the deal. You could travel with one bike box and effectively have two or three bikes to choose from when you get there. Similar to the adaptability of Gorilla Gravity frames.
I'd put a good chunk of change on The Norco DH bike we are seeing is the new Range with a modified dropout and link to...
I'd put a good chunk of change on The Norco DH bike we are seeing is the new Range with a modified dropout and link to accomodate additional travel and to change up leverage curves and what not to better suit DH. One of the photos of blenki at NZ champs you can see a raw alloy dropout and unpolished lower link.
With the sight being 150/160 it makes for the Range to move up to Super Enduro and be 160/170-180. I'd wager Blenkis bike at NZ champs was 180/200 just based on visual differences in that rear dropout length.
Norco has revamped every bike in their lineup (road division aswell). The Aurum hsp which technically is now the oldest was the first of the big changes to the previouse banana shape themed frames lineup. Norco is a big company but they aren't that big and therefore money has to be used wisely.
It makes total sense to build the DH platform off the new Range until it's viable and the market is there to layup new molds for a dedicated DH bike.
Super Enduros and DH bikes are already so similiar. I'd wager the difference between a HP super Enduro and HP DH bike is an even smaller gap.
That's kind of genius. Run the same front triangle, water bottle bosses and all, and just change the swing arm and links to transform the bike...
That's kind of genius. Run the same front triangle, water bottle bosses and all, and just change the swing arm and links to transform the bike between enduro and DH. A longer swing arm due to longer drop outs means more travel and stability for the DH bike and visa versa. Having two shocks and perhaps drivetrain's would even further seal the deal. You could travel with one bike box and effectively have two or three bikes to choose from when you get there. Similar to the adaptability of Gorilla Gravity frames.
Exactly.
Most of Norco's gravity team juniors and elites also race local, national and EWS events through the year so give em a bike that can easily be converted be a different bike with just a few parts changes. CRANKWORX is becoming bigger and bigger with really good pay outs. Many elite riders are now making sure they get to these and compete. Traveling with one bike and some parts is a lot cheaper than two bike boxes.
I'd also wager this bike is able to be run with a mullet set up right out of the gate. That lower link drops so low under the BB it gives them ample room within the suspension package to keep BB Heights and even rear centres the same when using different wheel sizes.
I'd put a good chunk of change on The Norco DH bike we are seeing is the new Range with a modified dropout and link to...
I'd put a good chunk of change on The Norco DH bike we are seeing is the new Range with a modified dropout and link to accomodate additional travel and to change up leverage curves and what not to better suit DH. One of the photos of blenki at NZ champs you can see a raw alloy dropout and unpolished lower link.
With the sight being 150/160 it makes for the Range to move up to Super Enduro and be 160/170-180. I'd wager Blenkis bike at NZ champs was 180/200 just based on visual differences in that rear dropout length.
Norco has revamped every bike in their lineup (road division aswell). The Aurum hsp which technically is now the oldest was the first of the big changes to the previouse banana shape themed frames lineup. Norco is a big company but they aren't that big and therefore money has to be used wisely.
It makes total sense to build the DH platform off the new Range until it's viable and the market is there to layup new molds for a dedicated DH bike.
Super Enduros and DH bikes are already so similiar. I'd wager the difference between a HP super Enduro and HP DH bike is an even smaller gap.
That's kind of genius. Run the same front triangle, water bottle bosses and all, and just change the swing arm and links to transform the bike...
That's kind of genius. Run the same front triangle, water bottle bosses and all, and just change the swing arm and links to transform the bike between enduro and DH. A longer swing arm due to longer drop outs means more travel and stability for the DH bike and visa versa. Having two shocks and perhaps drivetrain's would even further seal the deal. You could travel with one bike box and effectively have two or three bikes to choose from when you get there. Similar to the adaptability of Gorilla Gravity frames.
Exactly.
Most of Norco's gravity team juniors and elites also race local, national and EWS events through the year so give em a bike that can...
Exactly.
Most of Norco's gravity team juniors and elites also race local, national and EWS events through the year so give em a bike that can easily be converted be a different bike with just a few parts changes. CRANKWORX is becoming bigger and bigger with really good pay outs. Many elite riders are now making sure they get to these and compete. Traveling with one bike and some parts is a lot cheaper than two bike boxes.
I'd also wager this bike is able to be run with a mullet set up right out of the gate. That lower link drops so low under the BB it gives them ample room within the suspension package to keep BB Heights and even rear centres the same when using different wheel sizes.
Definitely curious about the mullet setup. To keep the BB in the same place and all the angles, it would have to be a dropout design that the chain wouldn’t be sitting right on top of the swingarm in the fastest gear. Some of the pictures it looks like it already does that, although you can’t tell what size wheel they are running in some of them.
This pic looks like there may be front and rear specific versions of this tire. Larger and wider spaced blocks on this picture. [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/03/21/10629/s1200_Screenshot_20210321_085856_Instagram.jpg[/img]
This pic looks like there may be front and rear specific versions of this tire. Larger and wider spaced blocks on this picture.
Think that is a Kaiser going by the braking knobs.
Plus, with a super deluxe, you have two sets of shims on the piston (one is for the rebound) and one on the bridge. Which set covers which type of bump? Does shimstacktor cover this?
Just having different tunes published would be an immense help. Buy a shock in the right dimensions and retune it according to the published data. If they sold the packs it would be even better. The way it is now its almost impossible to buy the correct super deluxe for a bike that doesn't come with one, if it needs a special tune.
I'd put a good chunk of change on The Norco DH bike we are seeing is the new Range with a modified dropout and link to accomodate additional travel and to change up leverage curves and what not to better suit DH. One of the photos of blenki at NZ champs you can see a raw alloy dropout and unpolished lower link.
With the sight being 150/160 it makes for the Range to move up to Super Enduro and be 160/170-180. I'd wager Blenkis bike at NZ champs was 180/200 just based on visual differences in that rear dropout length.
Norco has revamped every bike in their lineup (road division aswell). The Aurum hsp which technically is now the oldest was the first of the big changes to the previouse banana shape themed frames lineup. Norco is a big company but they aren't that big and therefore money has to be used wisely.
It makes total sense to build the DH platform off the new Range until it's viable and the market is there to layup new molds for a dedicated DH bike.
Super Enduros and DH bikes are already so similiar. I'd wager the difference between a HP super Enduro and HP DH bike is an even smaller gap.
From the Beta print magazine apparently.
Most of Norco's gravity team juniors and elites also race local, national and EWS events through the year so give em a bike that can easily be converted be a different bike with just a few parts changes. CRANKWORX is becoming bigger and bigger with really good pay outs. Many elite riders are now making sure they get to these and compete. Traveling with one bike and some parts is a lot cheaper than two bike boxes.
I'd also wager this bike is able to be run with a mullet set up right out of the gate. That lower link drops so low under the BB it gives them ample room within the suspension package to keep BB Heights and even rear centres the same when using different wheel sizes.
https://unbelievable.specialized.com/
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