2025 Race Talk

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HBO Max isn't an option in UK? 

edit: seems like the Max + eurosport deal is only in nordic countries

1 day ago

Is Eurosport Player/Discovery+/whatever-online-platform still available in France etc? That plus a VPN is something I'd be interested in.

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Mechanism wrote:

Is Eurosport Player/Discovery+/whatever-online-platform still available in France etc? That plus a VPN is something I'd be interested in.

France, like the Nordics also has the HBO Max offer. Same for most of Western Europe (except UK & IRL)

 

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Finkill wrote:
Not sure if this is UK only but WBD are moving cycling coverage to the TNT sports channel from Eurosport, meaning the monthly subscription is increasing...

Not sure if this is UK only but WBD are moving cycling coverage to the TNT sports channel from Eurosport, meaning the monthly subscription is increasing from £6.99 to £30.99. A huge increase which will put a lot of people off watching the world cups. https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/eurosport-is-closing-down-in-the-uk-cycling-is-about-to-get-a-lot-more-expensive-to-watch 

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Is it still gonna be on discovery plus? Cus the downhill hardly got on Eurosport live so I doubt it'll be on TNT, especially live. I...

Is it still gonna be on discovery plus? Cus the downhill hardly got on Eurosport live so I doubt it'll be on TNT, especially live. I get discovery plus free with my sky package so hopefully it's still on there, that's the only reason I still watch ahaha

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"Customers who use the Discovery+ app will also witness a price hike, and will have to swap from the standard £6.99 a month package to the...

"Customers who use the Discovery+ app will also witness a price hike, and will have to swap from the standard £6.99 a month package to the £30.99 premium package if they want to continue to watch live cycling."

Balls (never mind paying a bit, but that’s a lot!)

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It is. My Internet subscription is less than that... 

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Downhill Rockies announced the season schedule. Thanks Jeremiah and team! (If any of them are in here)

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Downhill Rockies announced the season schedule. Thanks Jeremiah and team! (If any of them are in here)

Downhill Rockies announced the season schedule. Thanks Jeremiah and team! (If any of them are in here)

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So cool to see! One of these days I need to get back on a DH rig and see some old friends. 

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I had the discovery channels free with my Sky deal as well so I saw all the world cups the last couple of seasons. 

I certainly won't be paying for TNT at that price to watch this year.

At the end of the day it was UCIs product to sell. Warner are doing what suits them but UCI is the one to blame for not renewing the deal with Red Bull.

The Red Bull deal worked for the supporters. Free coverage. 

Just how are the Elite World Cup riders like Bruni and Pierron going to feel when nobody is watching their races on TV .

If Red Bull are showing crankworks and other races for free then surely the hype is going to grow around  those races. And hype and eyeballs are what the sponsors want. 

I'm sure something  good will come from the lessons learned over the next few years  but careers are short. Bruni, Pom Pom and Amaury and Vergier probably  don't have too many years left at their peak and I'm going to miss seeing them race this season

 

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As of September 2024, Warner Bros. Discovery (WBD) reported $40.21 billion in debt, while Walt Disney reported $45.82 billion in debt.

Using massive debt to buy exclusive rights then charging more than many people are willing to pay doesn't seem ideal.

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Mechanism wrote:
As of September 2024, Warner Bros. Discovery (WBD) reported $40.21 billion in debt, while Walt Disney reported $45.82 billion in debt.Using massive debt to buy...

As of September 2024, Warner Bros. Discovery (WBD) reported $40.21 billion in debt, while Walt Disney reported $45.82 billion in debt.

Using massive debt to buy exclusive rights then charging more than many people are willing to pay doesn't seem ideal.

Nah, smart business! There is certainly plenty of mountain bikers who will pay enough to cover the losses of both of those businesses. 🤣

500 million mountain bikers paying $30 per month for 6 months and it breaks even. 

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Downhill Rockies announced the season schedule. Thanks Jeremiah and team! (If any of them are in here)

Downhill Rockies announced the season schedule. Thanks Jeremiah and team! (If any of them are in here)

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Mountain States Cup vibes

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Mechanism wrote:
As of September 2024, Warner Bros. Discovery (WBD) reported $40.21 billion in debt, while Walt Disney reported $45.82 billion in debt.Using massive debt to buy...

As of September 2024, Warner Bros. Discovery (WBD) reported $40.21 billion in debt, while Walt Disney reported $45.82 billion in debt.

Using massive debt to buy exclusive rights then charging more than many people are willing to pay doesn't seem ideal.

Both companies still make money. While I don't love the streaming business model for a lot of reasons, I think its a lot more complicated than we're boiling it down to here. Ignoring Disney for a second, WBD is kicking off over $5B in free cash flow per year, and adjusted EBIDTA of over $2B. Not saying all their moves are genius, and I'm pretty indifferent to the WC coverage, but its worth noting that not all leverage is bad leverage. 

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