Mountain Bike Tires

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Mountain bike tires are one of the most hotly contested components because of their ability to make or break a bike's handling characteristics. They're also an item that gets replaced regularly, so their cost is a concern, too.

Let's talk all things MTB tires right here.

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j0lsrud wrote:

Continental Kryptotal Fr/Re.

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They just need to make enduro casing supper soft compound and all the other brands will be dead ......

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j0lsrud wrote:

Continental Kryptotal Fr/Re.

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petarjelev wrote:

They just need to make enduro casing supper soft compound and all the other brands will be dead ......

We already seen pictures of Trail casing Soft and Enduro casing SSoft. It's only a matter of time by now 

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I had issues with kryptotal enduro rear, the rubber peeled off in a weird way and I had a number of flats within a month. This is the only tyre I have ever asked for a refund from and was successful. I would step up to the DH version but the sizing is very limited.

Fantastic front tyre though.

I find Schwalbe to be the most reliable out back and they typically have a great range of casings with supertrail, supergravity and superdownhill all being usable. Excited to try out the radial range soon.

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Michelin DH34 Bike Park - Lasted 1.5 laps in the bike park. I was hoping to have a hard compound dh tire but for some reason they dont make the side wall as burly as their Wild Enduro or DH tire. Why IDK, would not suggest.

Whats the best DH tire with more durable compounds? I got a new DHR2 DH Maxxterra but not sure how long it will last. A dual compound would be cool.

I like the specy Cannibal but at $80 a pop I am not running them until the sales come back around on them. 

The F/R Tacky chan is so hot right now

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8/12/2024 10:03am Edited Date/Time 8/12/2024 10:03am

Vittoria Mazza Enduro Race on front and just Mazza Enduro on back all day for enduro racing if conditions are dry, dusty and loose. Would not hesitate to run Mazza Enduro Race and Mota Enduro Race front / rear for DH. 

Just got the latest Michelin Wild Enduro Racing MH and Rear tire for another bike... not tried yet but that side wall did not look so confident inspiring.

Still figuring out what to run for wet...

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Half priced. On sale Victoria mazza or specialized tires for 40 bucks are the best tires to get.

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j0lsrud wrote:

Continental Kryptotal Fr/Re.

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Couldn't agree more. Running DH supersoft Fr/Fr combo on the DH and AM bikes. Super grippy, super predictable, corner great. Low wear for a tire with this tier of grip. Only minor complaint is they're really damn tight on install/removal.  

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To add some diversity to this argument. Currently trying Michelins Force AM2’s on my Ibis Ripley AF. I ride in the Midwest and was looking for a faster rolling but durable light trail bike tire. My terrain is pretty rocky and have cut the sidewall on multiple Maxxis tires but my terrain is relatively flat so it’s a difficult problem to solve. My best way to describe these tires would be a Maxxis Rekon in a double down casing. It rolls well, traction is good and the casing is pretty beefy. It does exactly what I need it to do. It does have a pretty damped ride quality to it, the bike is much quieter but at times does feel a little dead to the point where I had to open up compression just to give it some liveliness. I’d give it a 4/5 overall.

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j0lsrud wrote:

Continental Kryptotal Fr/Re.

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Yoda wrote:
Couldn't agree more. Running DH supersoft Fr/Fr combo on the DH and AM bikes. Super grippy, super predictable, corner great. Low wear for a tire with...

Couldn't agree more. Running DH supersoft Fr/Fr combo on the DH and AM bikes. Super grippy, super predictable, corner great. Low wear for a tire with this tier of grip. Only minor complaint is they're really damn tight on install/removal.  

I wish the DH casing was a bit stiffer. There’s one spot on a local trail where I roll the casing pretty much regardless of how much air I put in it.

I find I’m having to run an extra 2-4psi over what I’d run in other DH casings.

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Conti Kryptotal question. Front Front vs Front and Rear and why? I see alot of the dh racers running front front and right now im on front and rear. 

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8/12/2024 11:10am
thegromit wrote:
Michelin DH34 Bike Park - Lasted 1.5 laps in the bike park. I was hoping to have a hard compound dh tire but for some reason...

Michelin DH34 Bike Park - Lasted 1.5 laps in the bike park. I was hoping to have a hard compound dh tire but for some reason they dont make the side wall as burly as their Wild Enduro or DH tire. Why IDK, would not suggest.

Whats the best DH tire with more durable compounds? I got a new DHR2 DH Maxxterra but not sure how long it will last. A dual compound would be cool.

I like the specy Cannibal but at $80 a pop I am not running them until the sales come back around on them. 

The F/R Tacky chan is so hot right now

There’s a 29” Dual Compound DHR2 in the DH casing. TB00368500 if that helps. 

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Is anybody else dying for an xc style tread with a double down level casing or is that too niche? I have one bike with two wheel sets, one for bike park and rough trails and one for long days on the bike, but where I live in AZ the trails are really rough but rolling speed is crucial to survive being out there for 40-60 mile rides. So I'd love a fast rolling xc tire that is extra dependable in the back country. Like a Rekon Double Down or something. 

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thegromit wrote:
Michelin DH34 Bike Park - Lasted 1.5 laps in the bike park. I was hoping to have a hard compound dh tire but for some reason...

Michelin DH34 Bike Park - Lasted 1.5 laps in the bike park. I was hoping to have a hard compound dh tire but for some reason they dont make the side wall as burly as their Wild Enduro or DH tire. Why IDK, would not suggest.

Whats the best DH tire with more durable compounds? I got a new DHR2 DH Maxxterra but not sure how long it will last. A dual compound would be cool.

I like the specy Cannibal but at $80 a pop I am not running them until the sales come back around on them. 

The F/R Tacky chan is so hot right now

There’s a 29” Dual Compound DHR2 in the DH casing. TB00368500 if that helps. 

Currently on an MX setup or I would buy those today.

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Have yet to try the Contis but very curious. Grip sounds great. 

How about weight and rolling resistance for trail riding? 

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ricksticks wrote:
Is anybody else dying for an xc style tread with a double down level casing or is that too niche? I have one bike with two...

Is anybody else dying for an xc style tread with a double down level casing or is that too niche? I have one bike with two wheel sets, one for bike park and rough trails and one for long days on the bike, but where I live in AZ the trails are really rough but rolling speed is crucial to survive being out there for 40-60 mile rides. So I'd love a fast rolling xc tire that is extra dependable in the back country. Like a Rekon Double Down or something. 

There is a Rekon EXO+ that seems to hold up pretty well. For burlier casings, you could look for one of the gravity-focused semi-slicks, like Minion SS or similar.

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Fox wrote:

Have yet to try the Contis but very curious. Grip sounds great. 

How about weight and rolling resistance for trail riding? 

Im on enduro casing soft front and dh casing soft rear. Coming from an assegai and dhr2 combo that were Exo + maxterra. Little bit heavier but not too bad. Uphill hasnt really felt harder probably partially due to that i also went from tubes to tubeless. Rolling resistance i havnt noticed it being slower to accelerate too. Maybe just a little bit but not a huge difference. Once i go super soft on the front tire it might be different

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8/12/2024 12:10pm Edited Date/Time 8/12/2024 12:11pm
ricksticks wrote:
Is anybody else dying for an xc style tread with a double down level casing or is that too niche? I have one bike with two...

Is anybody else dying for an xc style tread with a double down level casing or is that too niche? I have one bike with two wheel sets, one for bike park and rough trails and one for long days on the bike, but where I live in AZ the trails are really rough but rolling speed is crucial to survive being out there for 40-60 mile rides. So I'd love a fast rolling xc tire that is extra dependable in the back country. Like a Rekon Double Down or something. 

D(C) wrote:
There is a Rekon EXO+ that seems to hold up pretty well. For burlier casings, you could look for one of the gravity-focused semi-slicks, like Minion...

There is a Rekon EXO+ that seems to hold up pretty well. For burlier casings, you could look for one of the gravity-focused semi-slicks, like Minion SS or similar.

That's actually the tire I run on my "xc" wheelset currently. I would love more protection in the rear though. I've been curious about the Minion SS and similar but they always just seemed too weird. I guess if I'm looking for a niche tire it makes sense that it would be weird. Edit: looks like the SS's only come in exo casing

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ricksticks wrote:
Is anybody else dying for an xc style tread with a double down level casing or is that too niche? I have one bike with two...

Is anybody else dying for an xc style tread with a double down level casing or is that too niche? I have one bike with two wheel sets, one for bike park and rough trails and one for long days on the bike, but where I live in AZ the trails are really rough but rolling speed is crucial to survive being out there for 40-60 mile rides. So I'd love a fast rolling xc tire that is extra dependable in the back country. Like a Rekon Double Down or something. 

D(C) wrote:
There is a Rekon EXO+ that seems to hold up pretty well. For burlier casings, you could look for one of the gravity-focused semi-slicks, like Minion...

There is a Rekon EXO+ that seems to hold up pretty well. For burlier casings, you could look for one of the gravity-focused semi-slicks, like Minion SS or similar.

ricksticks wrote:
That's actually the tire I run on my "xc" wheelset currently. I would love more protection in the rear though. I've been curious about the Minion...

That's actually the tire I run on my "xc" wheelset currently. I would love more protection in the rear though. I've been curious about the Minion SS and similar but they always just seemed too weird. I guess if I'm looking for a niche tire it makes sense that it would be weird. Edit: looks like the SS's only come in exo casing

If you can find it maxxis made a tire called the Griffin in DH and DD for a little its was pretty good fast rolling tire. Not sure if there are many still floating around.

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Anyone has some experience with kryptotal fr vs argotal? I'm on my third kryptotal fr in super soft and it's great, but I was thinking about trying an argotal next

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ricksticks wrote:
Is anybody else dying for an xc style tread with a double down level casing or is that too niche? I have one bike with two...

Is anybody else dying for an xc style tread with a double down level casing or is that too niche? I have one bike with two wheel sets, one for bike park and rough trails and one for long days on the bike, but where I live in AZ the trails are really rough but rolling speed is crucial to survive being out there for 40-60 mile rides. So I'd love a fast rolling xc tire that is extra dependable in the back country. Like a Rekon Double Down or something. 

Absolutely. I raced the AZT 800 last year, and was really pulling my hair out trying to decide which tires to run. Anything with a fast tread has a wimpy casing, and anything with a tough casing has massive lugs. Wound up going with Vittoria Agarros with tire inserts, which got the job done with only one flat at the very end. 

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Fox wrote:

Have yet to try the Contis but very curious. Grip sounds great. 

How about weight and rolling resistance for trail riding? 

They are heavy… and roll-resistant in Summer on asphalt with low air pressure sucks… but…you can‘t have it all… they are amazing!

Have them on my Enduro now for a Year… and mounted them on my Downduro

I love them! So just give them little more pressure for climbing on Asphalt… and you will live them too for sure!!!

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j0lsrud wrote:

Continental Kryptotal Fr/Re.

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Those tyres have such a square profile...😟

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ricksticks wrote:
Is anybody else dying for an xc style tread with a double down level casing or is that too niche? I have one bike with two...

Is anybody else dying for an xc style tread with a double down level casing or is that too niche? I have one bike with two wheel sets, one for bike park and rough trails and one for long days on the bike, but where I live in AZ the trails are really rough but rolling speed is crucial to survive being out there for 40-60 mile rides. So I'd love a fast rolling xc tire that is extra dependable in the back country. Like a Rekon Double Down or something. 

I am in Central Texas which has mostly rolling terrain with highly variable soil types, but mostly decomposing limestone which is often sharp, crumbly, rocky,  and abrasive. Probably not too different from some the conditions in AZ. I run a DHF EXO on the front that seems to work pretty well and recently swapped out a DHR II on the back wheel to a Vittoria Aggaro to try and pickup some rolling speed. The Vittoria is a lot faster, transitions from side-to-side with more confidence, and has held up pretty well so far. Outright grip is lower than the Maxxis, and it can get a bit squirrelly on faster rougher downhills.

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This is a great thread, tires are the single biggest performance part on a bike, and matching tires to your terrain and use is crucial to having the most fun and being able to ride with confidence and and safety.

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ricksticks wrote:
Is anybody else dying for an xc style tread with a double down level casing or is that too niche? I have one bike with two...

Is anybody else dying for an xc style tread with a double down level casing or is that too niche? I have one bike with two wheel sets, one for bike park and rough trails and one for long days on the bike, but where I live in AZ the trails are really rough but rolling speed is crucial to survive being out there for 40-60 mile rides. So I'd love a fast rolling xc tire that is extra dependable in the back country. Like a Rekon Double Down or something. 

Maxxis used to make Icons in a double down casing. 

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j0lsrud wrote:

Continental Kryptotal Fr/Re.

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Fred_Pop wrote:

Those tyres have such a square profile...😟

That’s a good thing, it means there’s a well defined cornering knob that you can drive into the ground for grip.


IMO rounded tires nearly always suck.

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ricksticks wrote:
Is anybody else dying for an xc style tread with a double down level casing or is that too niche? I have one bike with two...

Is anybody else dying for an xc style tread with a double down level casing or is that too niche? I have one bike with two wheel sets, one for bike park and rough trails and one for long days on the bike, but where I live in AZ the trails are really rough but rolling speed is crucial to survive being out there for 40-60 mile rides. So I'd love a fast rolling xc tire that is extra dependable in the back country. Like a Rekon Double Down or something. 

Now i don't need it anymore but in italy i was hoping for a Nobby Nic super gravity for the summer

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