Fort William World Cup Downhill 2024

5/4/2024 11:42am

In the latest MoiMoit tv O'Callaghan said it was a bit slick at the top. A few top riders crashed. Fastest times were also slower than the qualy.

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5/4/2024 12:42pm

Official sponsor of the Downhill World Series of World Cup Downhill just posted uncooked highlights from semis on their youtube, so there's your free semis coverage

WHOOP dee doo

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5/4/2024 12:48pm

I guess the silence in the internet says it all. Everyone is so disapointed that they just continue their daily buissness instead of superfaning the DH WC

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5/4/2024 12:57pm
gibbon wrote:
It does feel like moving semis to a seperate day and not televising it just a precusor to just having top 30 qualifiers in finals.......which is...

It does feel like moving semis to a seperate day and not televising it just a precusor to just having top 30 qualifiers in finals.......which is what they wanted from day one. And then being able to condense the whole thing to 3 days.

Definitely. Let’s break it and neglect it to justify our original claim that it needed fixing. 

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5/4/2024 1:13pm Edited Date/Time 5/4/2024 1:18pm

troy's vlog from today with qualifying run (sorry thought it was semi-finals run)

 

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5/4/2024 1:29pm
owl-x wrote:

Definitely. Let’s break it and neglect it to justify our original claim that it needed fixing. 

"We've listened to your feedback and the opinion of riders is super  important so in line with their wishes we are pleased to anounce ceasing semi finals , only having top 20 qualifiers in finals and only elite registered teams will be eligable to race. It's a tough decision but we are 100% commited to doing what is best going forwards"

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5/4/2024 1:59pm

Worst thing is that they had cameras on for the semis. They showed them on the big screen on-site. A bloody YT/Twitch stream would have been perfectly fine and cheap! 

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5/4/2024 2:09pm

After watching the Vital Raw's, i dont think theres another rider on this planet that is smoother than Loic Bruni. His upper body just doesnt move and his bike always looks in control. So fun to watch him

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5/4/2024 2:59pm
sspomer wrote:
re: rain in semis, here's what jack rice said - "last quarter of men's semi was raining, so loose dirt at top probably had good grip."...

re: rain in semis, here's what jack rice said - "last quarter of men's semi was raining, so loose dirt at top probably had good grip." sounds like the dust/loose at top was tough to navigate and rained helped.

Yes, he is right, but rocks got slippery, and huge holes appeared everywhere on the top of the track. They put a lot of people out.

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5/4/2024 7:18pm

Gonna be like Christmas morning waking up to those gifts... (But probably not gonna wake up to catch it live lol.)

C'mon Hauser I believe in ya!! Hope he's feelin ok by now.

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5/4/2024 7:54pm

15 minute highlight video for 2.5 hrs of racing.    These guys don’t get it at all.

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5/4/2024 9:49pm Edited Date/Time 5/4/2024 9:51pm
Worst thing is that they had cameras on for the semis. They showed them on the big screen on-site. A bloody YT/Twitch stream would have been...

Worst thing is that they had cameras on for the semis. They showed them on the big screen on-site. A bloody YT/Twitch stream would have been perfectly fine and cheap! 

Exactly how red bull TV used to do it too. Live footage shown for qualis on site for the fans at the venue and for us on a pre show. Only finals shown actually live on streaming.

 

Irony is with only one to two minute gaps between riders on a four plus minute track the semis coverage would have had to miss out lots of riders (2-3 on track at once). So the hard core haters would have just complained about how bad the coverage of semis was if it was shown 😂😂😂

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5/4/2024 10:17pm
gibbon wrote:
It does feel like moving semis to a seperate day and not televising it just a precusor to just having top 30 qualifiers in finals.......which is...

It does feel like moving semis to a seperate day and not televising it just a precusor to just having top 30 qualifiers in finals.......which is what they wanted from day one. And then being able to condense the whole thing to 3 days.

Check out Martin Whiteley’s interview bit on the Making up the Numbers Ft Bill podcast episode. Gives some indication of a big change for next year. He appears to be fairly confident there is strong consideration for the last chance qualifier approach and/or a “World Cup 2” addition. I’d consider him one of the most reliable sources in MTB so there must be some serious movement on WB’s side for it for him to make the statements he did. We can only hope it’ll get better somehow because the current format sure is messin’ with the vibe of the sport.

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5/4/2024 11:40pm

Can someone in Fort Bill please stream the big screen in the finish area?! So we could watch the finals. Or one of the teams make a stream on their instagram.
 

I still can not believe the silence about the let down of the fans.

And absence of return on investment for the brands and sponsors and even for the UCI. Money and laws are once again set over simple solutions for the community. Every single unbroadcadted race is a loss. Fort Bill is a mega loss. 
 

And I do not care about the eventual changes MW said are going to be implemented for NEXT year. He sais that even before the first race of the season is done. I need a solution NOW, before this race

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5/5/2024 12:02am
Rol wrote:
Can someone in Fort Bill please stream the big screen in the finish area?! So we could watch the finals. Or one of the teams make...

Can someone in Fort Bill please stream the big screen in the finish area?! So we could watch the finals. Or one of the teams make a stream on their instagram.
 

I still can not believe the silence about the let down of the fans.

And absence of return on investment for the brands and sponsors and even for the UCI. Money and laws are once again set over simple solutions for the community. Every single unbroadcadted race is a loss. Fort Bill is a mega loss. 
 

And I do not care about the eventual changes MW said are going to be implemented for NEXT year. He sais that even before the first race of the season is done. I need a solution NOW, before this race

Can somebody at the event or a professional team please brake the law so I can watch people on bikes. 

Is that seriously what your proposing? 

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5/5/2024 12:10am
Rol wrote:
Can someone in Fort Bill please stream the big screen in the finish area?! So we could watch the finals. Or one of the teams make...

Can someone in Fort Bill please stream the big screen in the finish area?! So we could watch the finals. Or one of the teams make a stream on their instagram.
 

I still can not believe the silence about the let down of the fans.

And absence of return on investment for the brands and sponsors and even for the UCI. Money and laws are once again set over simple solutions for the community. Every single unbroadcadted race is a loss. Fort Bill is a mega loss. 
 

And I do not care about the eventual changes MW said are going to be implemented for NEXT year. He sais that even before the first race of the season is done. I need a solution NOW, before this race

Finals will be regularly broadcasted. Just not for free like last year.

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5/5/2024 12:13am

Yes. Because even with a subscription I can not watch. And what law should that be? The I am not allowed to stream a landscape law? You need to be realistic. I paid for something I do not get and I still have hope that someone understands that there are probably toussnds of fans in the same situation. Setting up a camera gor a stream would be the most simple way of providing a minimum of information. Even the UCI and Chris Ball should be able to understand that.
 

Alternatively I am absolutly willing to listen to a radio. Rob Warner could make a live pirate broadcast from the track. That has all the of potential to be fun. The only downside is that it very much 1950s vibe and not 2024 with world wide internet.

 

I allways hated the idea of laws being restrictive without interest to the whole community. 

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5/5/2024 12:16am
Rol wrote:
Yes. Because even with a subscription I can not watch. And what law should that be? The I am not allowed to stream a landscape law...

Yes. Because even with a subscription I can not watch. And what law should that be? The I am not allowed to stream a landscape law? You need to be realistic. I paid for something I do not get and I still have hope that someone understands that there are probably toussnds of fans in the same situation. Setting up a camera gor a stream would be the most simple way of providing a minimum of information. Even the UCI and Chris Ball should be able to understand that.
 

Alternatively I am absolutly willing to listen to a radio. Rob Warner could make a live pirate broadcast from the track. That has all the of potential to be fun. The only downside is that it very much 1950s vibe and not 2024 with world wide internet.

 

I allways hated the idea of laws being restrictive without interest to the whole community. 

I don't know the specifics of your situation, but how have you paid for a stream and can't watch it? 

Advocating that teams and people violate copyright because your in a shitty situation is incredibly short sighted. 

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5/5/2024 12:34am

I have Eurosport and they show the Giro and do not stream the WC. I pay taxes to gett it.

 

You definitly missed your job. You should work for the UCI (or the russians)

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5/5/2024 12:40am
gibbon wrote:
It does feel like moving semis to a seperate day and not televising it just a precusor to just having top 30 qualifiers in finals.......which is...

It does feel like moving semis to a seperate day and not televising it just a precusor to just having top 30 qualifiers in finals.......which is what they wanted from day one. And then being able to condense the whole thing to 3 days.

mnp6 wrote:
Check out Martin Whiteley’s interview bit on the Making up the Numbers Ft Bill podcast episode. Gives some indication of a big change for next year...

Check out Martin Whiteley’s interview bit on the Making up the Numbers Ft Bill podcast episode. Gives some indication of a big change for next year. He appears to be fairly confident there is strong consideration for the last chance qualifier approach and/or a “World Cup 2” addition. I’d consider him one of the most reliable sources in MTB so there must be some serious movement on WB’s side for it for him to make the statements he did. We can only hope it’ll get better somehow because the current format sure is messin’ with the vibe of the sport.

I really hope that's the case as a last chance qualifier could be really exciting,  if they broadcast it . Even if it doesn't fit on a broadcast length TV show then at least a live stream on you tube is surely doable. 

I watched the first couple of semis last year but even for a fairly dedicated fan I found it far to much time out of my day  and pretty soon was watching just the finals . 

This can't be sustainable for teams either , MS intense and Intense factory racing with no riders through to race day . Santa Cruz and Scott with only their elite females in . Its a lot of money to spend for hardly any coverage on the main show .

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5/5/2024 12:54am

For the people asking who's protected, you can see that at every start list, riders protected have a P next to their name and as I heard, "p" would mean protected for semis and "P" protected for semis and finals, but I haven't seen that yet, maybe it would appear in the next rounds.

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5/5/2024 1:00am Edited Date/Time 5/5/2024 1:00am
Rol wrote:
I have Eurosport and they show the Giro and do not stream the WC. I pay taxes to gett it.   You definitly missed your job...

I have Eurosport and they show the Giro and do not stream the WC. I pay taxes to gett it.

 

You definitly missed your job. You should work for the UCI (or the russians)

they dont show it on discovery+!?

5/5/2024 1:02am

Chris Hauser 🇮🇹 is out, too banged up to race after the crash in practice.

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5/5/2024 1:03am Edited Date/Time 5/5/2024 1:05am
Rol wrote:
I have Eurosport and they show the Giro and do not stream the WC. I pay taxes to gett it.   You definitly missed your job...

I have Eurosport and they show the Giro and do not stream the WC. I pay taxes to gett it.

 

You definitly missed your job. You should work for the UCI (or the russians)

sethimus wrote:

they dont show it on discovery+!?

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5/5/2024 1:07am

Did anyone see on Moi Moi Tv them fixing signs in start area when Conner Fearon was trying to start, classic UCI i guess

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5/5/2024 4:37am

Asa with the second best time of the w-e

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