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sethimus wrote:

shouldn't vali be in front?

peecee wrote:
No! we know Vali and she's the champion but its an announcement for Kolb joining the team (look at the top of the picture) why on...

No! we know Vali and she's the champion but its an announcement for Kolb joining the team (look at the top of the picture) why on earth would they put someone else in front of the actual new person joining the team ? 

sethimus wrote:

same picture on the website, but no context with kolb joining:

https://www.yt-industries.com/de/world-of-yt/the-yt-mob/

this is the official team picture

Making up excuses reply included the quote from another post which is the picture that says Kolb is joining the team, I see the front page now but you are replying to the release images saying welcome Kolb 

Better luck next time haha 

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20 hours ago Edited Date/Time 20 hours ago

Anyone else think Intense is a bit of a chaotic loose organisation. Seem all over the place. Start a factory team developed a bike with tons of different mules end that team. Start another team think it's not owned by them. Supply MS for a season end that. Now they want a gearbox bike. Hard to keep up. 

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Domo-Kun wrote:
Anyone else think Intense is a bit of a chaotic loose organisation. Seem all over the place. Start a factory team developed a bike with tons...

Anyone else think Intense is a bit of a chaotic loose organisation. Seem all over the place. Start a factory team developed a bike with tons of different mules end that team. Start another team think it's not owned by them. Supply MS for a season end that. Now they want a gearbox bike. Hard to keep up. 

Who says this was all their decision?  Joe Breeden started the new Factiry Team and got that worked out.  Without him, I am sure they wouldn’t have had a new IFR.  For the MS team, they were a frame supplier.  Aside from EF’s surprise win, I would say it was a pretty lackluster year for that team (though Tuhoto represented well in outside events). Perhaps MS was asking for more this year than they could give or, perhaps, MS wanted to go a different direction.  Point is, Intense may not have been the one to make that call. The whole bike industry is in shambles, so who could blame any smaller bike company with making agile decisions if they had to.  Fact is, they still seem to be supporting racing, which says a lot for a company their size.

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20 hours ago Edited Date/Time 20 hours ago
Domo-Kun wrote:
Anyone else think Intense is a bit of a chaotic loose organisation. Seem all over the place. Start a factory team developed a bike with tons...

Anyone else think Intense is a bit of a chaotic loose organisation. Seem all over the place. Start a factory team developed a bike with tons of different mules end that team. Start another team think it's not owned by them. Supply MS for a season end that. Now they want a gearbox bike. Hard to keep up. 

Who says this was all their decision?  Joe Breeden started the new Factiry Team and got that worked out.  Without him, I am sure they wouldn’t...

Who says this was all their decision?  Joe Breeden started the new Factiry Team and got that worked out.  Without him, I am sure they wouldn’t have had a new IFR.  For the MS team, they were a frame supplier.  Aside from EF’s surprise win, I would say it was a pretty lackluster year for that team (though Tuhoto represented well in outside events). Perhaps MS was asking for more this year than they could give or, perhaps, MS wanted to go a different direction.  Point is, Intense may not have been the one to make that call. The whole bike industry is in shambles, so who could blame any smaller bike company with making agile decisions if they had to.  Fact is, they still seem to be supporting racing, which says a lot for a company their size.

IIRC Intense was not going to run a WC DH team for 2024, that's why Gwin and Dak's Intense Factory racing (IFR V1 RIP 2023) shut down. I believe John Hall stated Intense was going to focus on National level racing in the US in 2024. 

Breeden bought and runs the new Intense Factory racing (IFR V2 2024+)  and it sounded like Intense has a smaller investment than they did with Gwin. 

Last year was basically the first year of a new team with an old name. I'd assume a certain level of chaos just like any new team. 

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Domo-Kun wrote:
Anyone else think Intense is a bit of a chaotic loose organisation. Seem all over the place. Start a factory team developed a bike with tons...

Anyone else think Intense is a bit of a chaotic loose organisation. Seem all over the place. Start a factory team developed a bike with tons of different mules end that team. Start another team think it's not owned by them. Supply MS for a season end that. Now they want a gearbox bike. Hard to keep up. 

Who says this was all their decision?  Joe Breeden started the new Factiry Team and got that worked out.  Without him, I am sure they wouldn’t...

Who says this was all their decision?  Joe Breeden started the new Factiry Team and got that worked out.  Without him, I am sure they wouldn’t have had a new IFR.  For the MS team, they were a frame supplier.  Aside from EF’s surprise win, I would say it was a pretty lackluster year for that team (though Tuhoto represented well in outside events). Perhaps MS was asking for more this year than they could give or, perhaps, MS wanted to go a different direction.  Point is, Intense may not have been the one to make that call. The whole bike industry is in shambles, so who could blame any smaller bike company with making agile decisions if they had to.  Fact is, they still seem to be supporting racing, which says a lot for a company their size.

Fair points indeed. No shade on them I am a fan just a lot goes on. They dissolved the team this time last year after so much work and devlopment been put into the bike. Did Gwin or Dak even get to ride the finished bike in the end. Now it's gear box bikes instead after only a few world cups on the bike they put so much work into.

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Domo-Kun wrote:
Anyone else think Intense is a bit of a chaotic loose organisation. Seem all over the place. Start a factory team developed a bike with tons...

Anyone else think Intense is a bit of a chaotic loose organisation. Seem all over the place. Start a factory team developed a bike with tons of different mules end that team. Start another team think it's not owned by them. Supply MS for a season end that. Now they want a gearbox bike. Hard to keep up. 

Who says this was all their decision?  Joe Breeden started the new Factiry Team and got that worked out.  Without him, I am sure they wouldn’t...

Who says this was all their decision?  Joe Breeden started the new Factiry Team and got that worked out.  Without him, I am sure they wouldn’t have had a new IFR.  For the MS team, they were a frame supplier.  Aside from EF’s surprise win, I would say it was a pretty lackluster year for that team (though Tuhoto represented well in outside events). Perhaps MS was asking for more this year than they could give or, perhaps, MS wanted to go a different direction.  Point is, Intense may not have been the one to make that call. The whole bike industry is in shambles, so who could blame any smaller bike company with making agile decisions if they had to.  Fact is, they still seem to be supporting racing, which says a lot for a company their size.

Domo-Kun wrote:
Fair points indeed. No shade on them I am a fan just a lot goes on. They dissolved the team this time last year after so...

Fair points indeed. No shade on them I am a fan just a lot goes on. They dissolved the team this time last year after so much work and devlopment been put into the bike. Did Gwin or Dak even get to ride the finished bike in the end. Now it's gear box bikes instead after only a few world cups on the bike they put so much work into.

that team was never owned by Intense, it was always Gwinns team. They (could have been either side) decided that the partnership wasnt in their best interest to continue so Gwinn created his new Gwinn racing team. Prior  to them being the naming rights sponsor of Gwinn's team, the old team was owned by Intense 

 

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how often people wright this legendary man‘s name wrong just baffles me… it‘s Aaron GWIN! 🙄

 

rant over, sorry😅

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peecee wrote:
No! we know Vali and she's the champion but its an announcement for Kolb joining the team (look at the top of the picture) why on...

No! we know Vali and she's the champion but its an announcement for Kolb joining the team (look at the top of the picture) why on earth would they put someone else in front of the actual new person joining the team ? 

sethimus wrote:

same picture on the website, but no context with kolb joining:

https://www.yt-industries.com/de/world-of-yt/the-yt-mob/

this is the official team picture

peecee wrote:
Making up excuses reply included the quote from another post which is the picture that says Kolb is joining the team, I see the front page...

Making up excuses reply included the quote from another post which is the picture that says Kolb is joining the team, I see the front page now but you are replying to the release images saying welcome Kolb 

Better luck next time haha 

don't be a sour puss just because you can't accept the thought that a succesful woman should lead a team 

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I always heard that IFR was bankrupt before AG took over, shame about the "problems" they had developing the bike, personally I would have liked the INTENSE to be the same as the Crestline, for me a wonderful bike, very linear, and It is a beauty, in Red even more so.

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Domo-Kun wrote:
Anyone else think Intense is a bit of a chaotic loose organisation. Seem all over the place. Start a factory team developed a bike with tons...

Anyone else think Intense is a bit of a chaotic loose organisation. Seem all over the place. Start a factory team developed a bike with tons of different mules end that team. Start another team think it's not owned by them. Supply MS for a season end that. Now they want a gearbox bike. Hard to keep up. 

Fully agree. Plus MS as a partner that was not a good idea. 

11 hours ago

XC team news from Canyon, signing Jenny Rissveds:

8TH JANUARY – The Canyon CLLCTV Factory XC Team is proud to announce its newest signing: Jenny Rissveds. The Swedish superstar and Olympic champion is set to bring her incredible talent, grit, and experience to the team as she races aboard the Canyon Lux World Cup CFR in the 2025 season.

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“We’re beyond excited to welcome Jenny to the Canyon family,” says CLLCTV Factory XC Team Manager Sébastien Francois. “Her incredible career and fearless approach to racing align perfectly with our mission to support riders at the very top of the sport.”
 
Jenny’s story is one of pure inspiration. From winning gold at the Rio Olympics to redefining what it means to race on your own terms, she’s carved out a legacy as one of the most exciting riders in XC racing. Known for her explosive power, precise bike control, and unshakable determination, Jenny is among the most well-rounded riders on the circuit.
 
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The 30 year old from Falun, Sweden, took the cross-country world by storm with her Rio gold in 2016, but fans in Sweden were alert to Jenny’s talent far before after three consecutive national championship titles. Rio was the springboard to greater success with an under-23 World Championship title and, after a two-year hiatus, XCO and XCC World Cup successes from 2019 to the present day.
 
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Jenny couldn’t be more excited to begin this new chapter: “Joining the Canyon CLLCTV is a huge opportunity for me. I’ve been riding bikes for so long now but I still feel like there is so much for me to learn and so many ways to improve. I’m really looking forward to this journey and to see how we can learn and improve together. I’m really happy about this new chapter of my career.”
 
Established stars and next-gen talents
The team is also thrilled to welcome two rising stars, Valentina Corvi and Noa Filippi who represent the next generation of MTB talent. Hungry to make their mark in XC racing, Valentina, who is the current U23 national champion, also has her sights set on Cyclocross success. Meanwhile, French talent Noa, who holds multiple XCO/XCC youth titles, brings massive potential and ambition, ready to take on the world’s best in his first year as a Junior.
 
The 2025 roster perfectly balances experience and raw talent. German XC powerhouse Luca Schwarzbauer returns with his explosive pace, while French whippet Thomas Griot and Spanish U23 star Thibaut François add finesse and speed to the mix.
 
“This lineup hits all the marks,” adds Sébastien. “With Jenny and Luca’s leadership, Thomas and Thibaut’s energy, and the fresh fire of Valentina and Noa, we’re set for an incredible season. 2025 is going to be epic.”
 
How to keep up to date with the Canyon CLLCTV team
The Canyon CLLCTV Factory XC Team heads into the new year with its sights firmly set on World Cup podiums, rainbow stripes, and unforgettable moments. Follow their journey on Instagram at @canyon_cllctv.
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Commencal Enduro Project is done with enduro:

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sethimus wrote:

same picture on the website, but no context with kolb joining:

https://www.yt-industries.com/de/world-of-yt/the-yt-mob/

this is the official team picture

peecee wrote:
Making up excuses reply included the quote from another post which is the picture that says Kolb is joining the team, I see the front page...

Making up excuses reply included the quote from another post which is the picture that says Kolb is joining the team, I see the front page now but you are replying to the release images saying welcome Kolb 

Better luck next time haha 

sethimus wrote:

don't be a sour puss just because you can't accept the thought that a succesful woman should lead a team 

Seen as Vali's salary is likely 3-4 X that of Kolb's, I'm sure she doesn't mind having a graphic welcoming him to her team giving him prominence. 

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RonJon wrote:

Could someone post a summary of moves/confirmed rumours so far?

Posting this again because you may have not seen it. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oioH7_ADLzuHFDC-pRGTnRCh8JLIt5ubK4K1eGZc3u8/edit?gid=0#gid=0 Anything with a 3 in the confidence column is either confirmed by the team itself...

Posting this again because you may have not seen it. 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oioH7_ADLzuHFDC-pRGTnRCh8JLIt5ubK4K1eGZc3u8/edit?gid=0#gid=0 

Anything with a 3 in the confidence column is either confirmed by the team itself or is an extremely strong rumor. Confidence 1 or 2 are lower confidence in the rumor. The second sheet has a list of the teams that can be organized to show which teams will be within the top 15. 

super interesting! Looking at Yeti - would that mean that Camille takes the risk not be on the start line since the team is not Top15?

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peecee wrote:
Making up excuses reply included the quote from another post which is the picture that says Kolb is joining the team, I see the front page...

Making up excuses reply included the quote from another post which is the picture that says Kolb is joining the team, I see the front page now but you are replying to the release images saying welcome Kolb 

Better luck next time haha 

sethimus wrote:

don't be a sour puss just because you can't accept the thought that a succesful woman should lead a team 

Mr.Nally wrote:
Seen as Vali's salary is likely 3-4 X that of Kolb's, I'm sure she doesn't mind having a graphic welcoming him to her team giving him...

Seen as Vali's salary is likely 3-4 X that of Kolb's, I'm sure she doesn't mind having a graphic welcoming him to her team giving him prominence. 

When joining YT last year Vali stated in an Interview that her salary is roughly 100k. Of course that could be higher for this season after her success last year. But I don´t think, Kolbs salary is that much lower. 

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fr283 wrote:
When joining YT last year Vali stated in an Interview that her salary is roughly 100k. Of course that could be higher for this season after...

When joining YT last year Vali stated in an Interview that her salary is roughly 100k. Of course that could be higher for this season after her success last year. But I don´t think, Kolbs salary is that much lower. 

It would be criminal if Vali is on 100k. I would expect her base salary to be 3-4x that at least. 

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fr283 wrote:
When joining YT last year Vali stated in an Interview that her salary is roughly 100k. Of course that could be higher for this season after...

When joining YT last year Vali stated in an Interview that her salary is roughly 100k. Of course that could be higher for this season after her success last year. But I don´t think, Kolbs salary is that much lower. 

jofish wrote:

It would be criminal if Vali is on 100k. I would expect her base salary to be 3-4x that at least. 

At least 75k? 

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fr283 wrote:
When joining YT last year Vali stated in an Interview that her salary is roughly 100k. Of course that could be higher for this season after...

When joining YT last year Vali stated in an Interview that her salary is roughly 100k. Of course that could be higher for this season after her success last year. But I don´t think, Kolbs salary is that much lower. 

jofish wrote:

It would be criminal if Vali is on 100k. I would expect her base salary to be 3-4x that at least. 

Who is going to put that amount of money??

This is a small sport, are not road bikes😀

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fr283 wrote:
When joining YT last year Vali stated in an Interview that her salary is roughly 100k. Of course that could be higher for this season after...

When joining YT last year Vali stated in an Interview that her salary is roughly 100k. Of course that could be higher for this season after her success last year. But I don´t think, Kolbs salary is that much lower. 

jofish wrote:

It would be criminal if Vali is on 100k. I would expect her base salary to be 3-4x that at least. 

IIRC she said, even though 100k was a good amount of money, the top male riders still make 3 times as much as the female riders and complained a little bit about the injustice in dh mountain biking. That´s why I´m guessing a top male rider (and Kolb is a top male rider) won´t make much less than Vali. 

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jofish wrote:

It would be criminal if Vali is on 100k. I would expect her base salary to be 3-4x that at least. 

Yes I imagine Vali's base salary is higher..and rumors I heard were with bonuses, personal contracts with companies like Adidas etc. that Vali is doing much better than 100k per annum. Good for her.

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gonza.s.m. wrote:

Who is going to put that amount of money??

This is a small sport, are not road bikes😀

If a select few riders in the men’s field are earning enough to drive €150k+ cars and flying to races in private jets then they’re likely earning close to 7 figures. In 2025 I’d expect Vali to match this. If you want World Cup wins and rainbow stripes for your brand she’s as close as you’ll get to a guaranteed result.

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gonza.s.m. wrote:

Who is going to put that amount of money??

This is a small sport, are not road bikes😀

jofish wrote:
If a select few riders in the men’s field are earning enough to drive €150k+ cars and flying to races in private jets then they’re likely...

If a select few riders in the men’s field are earning enough to drive €150k+ cars and flying to races in private jets then they’re likely earning close to 7 figures. In 2025 I’d expect Vali to match this. If you want World Cup wins and rainbow stripes for your brand she’s as close as you’ll get to a guaranteed result.

Who's flying in private jets? No way anyone is earning $1M/yr. 

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Who's flying in private jets? No way anyone is earning $1M/yr. 

AG himself stated this when he was at his peak and winning WC-overalls. i think it was during the YT-era, that million was salary plus combination of personal sponsors like ODI, onza, etc.

howelse was he able to afford that top mansion in temecula plus his porsche gt3/mclaren 570s. times and his priorities where different back than Smile

now back to team rumors, i think salaries should be a seperate thread.

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Who's flying in private jets? No way anyone is earning $1M/yr. 

The private jets were discussed on the downtime podcast after loudenville last year. Bruni and co posted a few photos on instagram. AG gave the $1M figure back in 2017.

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Domo-Kun wrote:
Anyone else think Intense is a bit of a chaotic loose organisation. Seem all over the place. Start a factory team developed a bike with tons...

Anyone else think Intense is a bit of a chaotic loose organisation. Seem all over the place. Start a factory team developed a bike with tons of different mules end that team. Start another team think it's not owned by them. Supply MS for a season end that. Now they want a gearbox bike. Hard to keep up. 

The way I read it, it's MS that wants to go the gearbox route, not Intense but they built MS an M1 Pinion frame.

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iceman2058 wrote:

Rheeder continuing to make big changes, announcing the opening of another new mountain bike company of his later this year:

Make sense for Commencal. If Brett is starting his own bike brand then why should they be paying him while develops there future competition.

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Who's flying in private jets? No way anyone is earning $1M/yr. 

jofish wrote:
The private jets were discussed on the downtime podcast after loudenville last year. Bruni and co posted a few photos on instagram. AG gave the $1M...

The private jets were discussed on the downtime podcast after loudenville last year. Bruni and co posted a few photos on instagram. AG gave the $1M figure back in 2017.

https://youtu.be/67csiwy53ZY?si=CwYg6cKdN--fj9sA

 

March 2020 to be exact 🙂

I also remember a video of Loic giving a right breakdown and over the year he made "about a million bucks".

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Cathro got the scoop back when dirt mag was still around 🦖

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