2024 TEAM RUMORS

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1/16/2024 12:27pm
owl-x wrote:

hey dude you wanna go ride the pump track this afternoon?

yeah lemme just weld up a DJ bike real quick see you at 2...

 

...i have a little time while racing world cups, managing a team, distrubuting 50 orders of DH frames I never intended to sell and getting ready...

...i have a little time while racing world cups, managing a team, distrubuting 50 orders of DH frames I never intended to sell and getting ready to launch an enduro frame ... i got a mask and blow torch in my pocket...

...these P3's are perfect, I'll just copy that...

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1/16/2024 12:38pm

is everyone gonna be surprised if/when macdonald signs with Forbidden?

I mentioned this a while back, page 40 maybe, and my comment was missed / ignored by most. Which was fair enough as it was simply...

I mentioned this a while back, page 40 maybe, and my comment was missed / ignored by most. Which was fair enough as it was simply based on Brook liking a bunch of their instagram posts. Even I thought that was a bit tenuous. 

So I'll be a little surprised if he signs with Forbidden, but maybe a little less than others. IF he signs with them - but him and Fearon would make a very cool DH team. 

Super-nought happening. 

I don't actually know, that was just the only time I was going to get to make that joke. It would be sick to see Brook on a forbidden. 

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1/16/2024 12:48pm

is everyone gonna be surprised if/when macdonald signs with Forbidden?

I mentioned this a while back, page 40 maybe, and my comment was missed / ignored by most. Which was fair enough as it was simply...

I mentioned this a while back, page 40 maybe, and my comment was missed / ignored by most. Which was fair enough as it was simply based on Brook liking a bunch of their instagram posts. Even I thought that was a bit tenuous. 

So I'll be a little surprised if he signs with Forbidden, but maybe a little less than others. IF he signs with them - but him and Fearon would make a very cool DH team. 

Totally agree, brook and fearon together would be such a cool combo

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1/16/2024 12:51pm

Tristan liemere left transition factory racing at the end of last season, doing his own thing this year. That means theres an empty spot on the team, jon mozell to transition factory racing?

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1/16/2024 12:58pm

is everyone gonna be surprised if/when macdonald signs with Forbidden?

I mentioned this a while back, page 40 maybe, and my comment was missed / ignored by most. Which was fair enough as it was simply...

I mentioned this a while back, page 40 maybe, and my comment was missed / ignored by most. Which was fair enough as it was simply based on Brook liking a bunch of their instagram posts. Even I thought that was a bit tenuous. 

So I'll be a little surprised if he signs with Forbidden, but maybe a little less than others. IF he signs with them - but him and Fearon would make a very cool DH team. 

dylanjp006 wrote:

Totally agree, brook and fearon together would be such a cool combo

Brook just signed for another year w/ Redbull

 

 

 

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1/16/2024 1:11pm
owl-x wrote:

hey dude you wanna go ride the pump track this afternoon?

yeah lemme just weld up a DJ bike real quick see you at 2...

 

Tangent from team rumors, but SOON I imagine you'll just order a frame kit made of carbon tubes off mcmaster-carr, and the cost of 3D printing will be so low that you can get all the lugs sintered for like $100 (https://all3dp.com/1/cold-metal-fusion-3d-printing-simply-explained/) and then you just glue your frame together. 

While this will be a super rad future, there will also be lots of broken frames (and bones)

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1/16/2024 1:43pm
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One of Specialized upper management of over 2 decades moved back to WNC within the last couple years & Neko's known him a long time. Whatever...

One of Specialized upper management of over 2 decades moved back to WNC within the last couple years & Neko's known him a long time.

Whatever arrangement they have is well thought out & rest assured Fox ,Neko & the Big S are all in concert or it wouldn't be there.

Yes thats right. On the Instagram Post there is specialized listed for e-bikes and dirt jump bikes.

Yes thats right. On the Instagram Post there is specialized listed for e-bikes and dirt jump bikes.

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sundaydoug wrote:

I understand them sourcing an ebike from Specialized, but surely they can weld together a few frames to use as DJ bikes? Kinda strange. 

I’m sure they could, but that would cost money that could go elsewhere if Specialized will give them some

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1/16/2024 2:01pm
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Factory team is Pinkerton, Norton, Dunne.

Only question left is whether Farina sticks with MS or moves to Mondraker factory team??

Erm, you seem to be very sure on this, but let me ask you quick: based upon... what? It's an honest question. Most of us interpret what riders do or say, in order to try to understand where they are heading. I am curious what the base is to the ”Dak to Mondraker” rumor is, considering that he suggested that there will be no major changes for him. Whereas a change of frame is a huge change. Or maybe you have some inside knowledge that we obviously lack and you know this for a fact, but can't talk about it. I am looking at the people who liked your comment and I consider this could be a thing too. Just for the record: I am interested in the mechanics of the rumor, how it came to life, not trying to argue with like minded DH racing fans; we are all in here because we love this.

Cheers,
Mx

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1/16/2024 2:15pm
Tangent from team rumors, but SOON I imagine you'll just order a frame kit made of carbon tubes off mcmaster-carr, and the cost of 3D printing...

Tangent from team rumors, but SOON I imagine you'll just order a frame kit made of carbon tubes off mcmaster-carr, and the cost of 3D printing will be so low that you can get all the lugs sintered for like $100 (https://all3dp.com/1/cold-metal-fusion-3d-printing-simply-explained/) and then you just glue your frame together. 

While this will be a super rad future, there will also be lots of broken frames (and bones)

The bike world’s lust for 3d printing is hilarious to me. 

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1/16/2024 2:20pm
Mr.Nally wrote:

Factory team is Pinkerton, Norton, Dunne.

Only question left is whether Farina sticks with MS or moves to Mondraker factory team??

Maxipedia wrote:
Erm, you seem to be very sure on this, but let me ask you quick: based upon... what? It's an honest question. Most of us interpret...

Erm, you seem to be very sure on this, but let me ask you quick: based upon... what? It's an honest question. Most of us interpret what riders do or say, in order to try to understand where they are heading. I am curious what the base is to the ”Dak to Mondraker” rumor is, considering that he suggested that there will be no major changes for him. Whereas a change of frame is a huge change. Or maybe you have some inside knowledge that we obviously lack and you know this for a fact, but can't talk about it. I am looking at the people who liked your comment and I consider this could be a thing too. Just for the record: I am interested in the mechanics of the rumor, how it came to life, not trying to argue with like minded DH racing fans; we are all in here because we love this.

Cheers,
Mx

Dak seems pretty tight with his mechanic who was not listed in that Mondraker announcement, which makes me lean towards him not ending up there. My guess is he ends up with Gwin, but I don't have any good guesses on what the frame supplier would be.

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1/16/2024 3:17pm

Nope. Not confirming anything other than none of his stories are on his new ride. All are on his old GT bikes 

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1/16/2024 3:26pm

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mnp6 wrote:

 Anyone know what they would be using from Specialized (logo - center of jersey)? Saddles?

I believe neko said the spesh suspension designer guy offered & gave him hour(s) of advice over video chat (poss directly after meeting at a race?)

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mnp6 wrote:

 Anyone know what they would be using from Specialized (logo - center of jersey)? Saddles?

rEs wrote:
I believe neko said the spesh suspension designer guy offered & gave him hour(s) of advice over video chat (poss directly after meeting at a race?)

I believe neko said the spesh suspension designer guy offered & gave him hour(s) of advice over video chat (poss directly after meeting at a race?)

Frameworks news release says Specialized will supply them with E-Bikes and DJ bikes.

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1/16/2024 4:54pm Edited Date/Time 1/16/2024 5:49pm

Who has seen the Windrock course preview on their IG site from 2 days ago. Who's voice is that? Somebody with 100% gloves on. Sounds like Dak. The top tube has a sticker of a Yeti , but when you look at the headtube of the bike you see the Big S. Looks like  brake TRP levers and a Fox fork. RENTHAL handle and stem.

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1/16/2024 5:17pm
mtb571 wrote:
Who has seen the Windrock course preview on their IG site from 2 days ago. Who's voice is that? Somebody with 100% gloves on. Sounds like...

Who has seen the Windrock course preview on their IG site from 2 days ago. Who's voice is that? Somebody with 100% gloves on. Sounds like Dak. The top tube has a sticker of a Yeti , but when you look at the headtube of the bike you see the Big S. Looks like  brake TRP levers and a Fox fork. RENTHAL handle and stem.

That was Jordan Bouldin...Works at Windrock and I believe is a coach with Gravity Academy.

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1/16/2024 5:31pm
mtb571 wrote:
Who has seen the Windrock course preview on their IG site from 2 days ago. Who's voice is that? Somebody with 100% gloves on. Sounds like...

Who has seen the Windrock course preview on their IG site from 2 days ago. Who's voice is that? Somebody with 100% gloves on. Sounds like Dak. The top tube has a sticker of a Yeti , but when you look at the headtube of the bike you see the Big S. Looks like  brake TRP levers and a Fox fork. RENTHAL handle and stem.

sevenz wrote:

That was Jordan Bouldin...Works at Windrock and I believe is a coach with Gravity Academy.

all correct.

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1/16/2024 5:34pm

Yeah just finished watching a video  of Dakota talking and that is not his voice on the course preview. 

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1/16/2024 5:45pm

Rental stem. 

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1/16/2024 5:57pm
MTBDHdad wrote:

Nope. Not confirming anything other than none of his stories are on his new ride. All are on his old GT bikes 

Dad, is there at least a date that can be shared for Ryan’s new team launch?

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1/16/2024 6:08pm

is everyone gonna be surprised if/when macdonald signs with Forbidden?

I think Mark Wallace signs with Forbidden and Brook signs with Mondraker’s recently announced factory team 

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1/16/2024 6:18pm

Wtf? 
What role does the big S play in Frameworks Racing?? 
Did they buy in? 

FullSend wrote:
There actually was an engineer from Specialized involved with the suspension development and general testing for Frameworks. But I was under the impression the engineer was...

There actually was an engineer from Specialized involved with the suspension development and general testing for Frameworks. But I was under the impression the engineer was a mate of Neko's who did this more or less in his spare time, not in any official consulting capacity.

Similar to how Dan Roberts, who officially works for RAAW, helped Neko develop the carbon lay-up for the rear triangle. Or Cy Turner, founder and owner of Cotic, who developed a steel version of the front triangle, back when Neko hadn't quite figured out yet how to make the aluminium frames sufficiently strong and durable.

Mafflin wrote:

Wasn't it Kiran Mackinnon of Santa Cruz not Spec?
 

Frameworks was running reserve rims in 2022 and part of 2023. They helped out with testing and development of the alloy hd rims as can be seen in this video and Kiran Mackinnon is responsible for all SC/reserve mtb testing for product development.

 

 

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1/16/2024 8:10pm

Dak to MS Intense 

Gwin to Mondraker and becoming the U.S. distributer. 

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1/16/2024 8:33pm
sspomer wrote:
frameworks racing is official - our interview with neko about angel, asa, budgets, sponsor changes, why he doesn't paint the bikes, anti-rise and more. spoiler -...

frameworks racing is official - our interview with neko about angel, asa, budgets, sponsor changes, why he doesn't paint the bikes, anti-rise and more.

spoiler - he hints at riding a gearbox version of the bike at some point this season!

Interview Contents

0:00 - Intro, Angel Suarez on Frameworks

5:45 - UNNO to Frameworks, Already a FOX Rider

9:39 - Sponsor Changes, Wheels and Tires

13:09 - Neko, Asa and Angel are the Same Height - Intentional?

18:20 - Increased Team Size, Not Budget Cuts. How?

21:24 - Frameworks with a GEARBOX?!

24:38 - Why Aren't Other Brands as Transparent as Frameworks?

28:15 - Outside Industry Sponsors?

29:34 - What is Frameworks' Budget?

34:15 - Aaron Gwin and Frameworks?

35:39 - What's Frameworks' 5-Year Plan?

39:42 - Did Neko Start Frameworks to Extend His Racing Career?

43:45 - Success with Berm Peak Video on Frameworks

47:36 - Why Are Frames Raw and Not Painted?

49:09 - Biggest Single Surprise During Bike Development?

51:07 - Anti-Rise Experiences and Setup

54:52 - Any Insight into 2024 World Cup Race Format?

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1/17/2024 3:29am

UK flavor team news today, Privateer will be supporting local enduro ripper Christo Gallagher.

 

 

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1/17/2024 4:37am
MTBDHdad wrote:

Nope. Not confirming anything other than none of his stories are on his new ride. All are on his old GT bikes 

Conkey wrote:

Dad, is there at least a date that can be shared for Ryan’s new team launch?

I believe in the next couple weeks, before Feb 1 for sure.

 

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